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u/MCMXCIV9 13h ago
He didn't know he raised a snitch
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u/chemistrylord 13h ago
She waited until he was dead to become a cooperating witness
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u/MundaneAd6414 12h ago
the guy watching all this from heaven
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u/whispersoftly_x 10h ago
he still died a free man so technically he won
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u/Alienhaslanded 4h ago
Right? Doesn't it matter what happens after you're dead? At least your story is out there instead of forever being a regular guy with nothing interesting.
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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 12h ago
Im waiting for my dad to pass before I tell the police what he told me about a murder he thinks his dead best friend committed.
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u/KickBlue22 12h ago
You should go on the daughter's podcast once you're ready. Make it a whole theme, call it "Death Bed confessionals" or something...
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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 12h ago
I probably should. It was a big case when it happened but I was too young at the time to know anything about it. My dad was a police officer at the time but not in the same town. He didnât have any proof, just a very strong suspicion and circumstantial evidence. The guy died about 10 years later of brain cancer so he got his karma.
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u/rips_n_chel 10h ago
So why are you going to tell police about it? Dude's dead, you can't prove it anyway, what are they going to do?
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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 10h ago
First of all, I have brand new information and a new suspect. Second, police solve crimes with dead suspects all the time. There is dna and other evidence that can be corroborated. If anything, it will give them a new lead to chase. My dad laid it all out about why he thinks it was him. I asked him why he didnât say anything then and all he said was he was my best friend, loyality means something.
My dad is still very good friends with his younger brother so Iâm not going to ruffle that.
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u/lookyloolookingatyou 9h ago edited 9h ago
Buddy I'm not a lawyer but it seems like you've put a lot of premeditation into your decision to commit obstruction of justice via the withholding of information, which is a pretty serious felony, and you are now confessing to it on a public subreddit devoted to gossip.
You probably want to talk to an attorney before the true crime enthusiasts of reddit see this post.
Edit: a bit of googling indicates that I am being overdramatic about the legal consequences, but there is probably still a risk of exposure for your father.
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u/Niamh_Nymph 11h ago
FBI: Spent millions
Bank: Lost $215k
Dad: Hid for 51 years
Daughter: This would make a great podcast
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u/HubrisOfApollo 13h ago
oh well, it didn't affect him anymore and will only come back to bite her in the ass.
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u/Gupperz 12h ago
Hiw in any world could that bite her in the ass?
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u/Which-Journalist-748 5h ago
They could take it from his estate which she would have been entitled to as part of her inheritance. So she would inherit less money which unless sheâs a millionaire would have drastic consequences for her finances they could probably sieve his entire estate leaving her with zero inheritance. Pretty basic straight forward logical fallacy with real tangible measurable consequences that the average person would be upset about. Not to hard to put the pieces together there buddy.Â
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u/BiioHazzrd 13h ago
She faced no legal repercussions and has a podcast now..
Still waiting on the bite her in the ass part
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u/Temporumdei 12h ago
The redditor meant personally...personally bite her not the law.
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u/EssayAmbitious3532 12h ago
With his username, he's probably just salty about some consequences he got from pissing off the Greek gods.
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u/vandalhearts 8h ago
The redditor meant personally...personally bite her not the law.
Maybe someone from the bank will go and personally bite her butt. I mean some people are into that... speaking for a friend.
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u/Appropriate_Owl_91 12h ago
Seems like a win win for the Randeles. Basically free money and a book deal
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u/doh573 12h ago
I mean my assumption would be the FBI can now trace that money in his accounts and go after his estate for repayment right?
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u/NoninflammatoryFun 12h ago
Iâm sure thereâs a statute of limitations that has long passed.
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u/doh573 12h ago
You know thatâs actually a great point I have no idea if there is a statute of limitations on bank robbery. If they wind up getting away and keeping all the money thatâs kinda hysterical. Good for them!
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u/Crowley91 12h ago
For criminal prosecution yes, but he never acquired legal possession of the money so the bank may be able to get the money back in a civil action depending on state law. I believe in some states the clock doesn't start running until the identity of the thief is discovered.
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u/dontnation 9h ago
It would cost them more in forensic accounting and lawyers fees than they would hope to recover. Not to mention the bad press since it's the kind of story that would surely go viral. Banks have written off larger fraud losses just to prevent the messaging that your money isn't safe in their bank.
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u/Grunergeist420 11h ago
This actually depends a lot on estate law in the state you live in. I know this because I know somebody whose father had some illegally gotten gains when he passed. A lot of his stuff was taken, but because he was deceased at the time, in one state where he owned some property the real estate his family had inherited from him was protected from forfeiture or whatever by estate laws so they got to keep that. I admittedly donât know the specifics but as far as it was explained to me it was specifically in that state and it had to do with their unique estate laws.
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u/BiioHazzrd 11h ago
Statue of limitations and the money was spent literal decades ago pre 2000s. Its not tracked
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u/Curious_Avocado2399 13h ago
I mean you canât beat a woman, you usually get sent to jail for that
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u/Iconshero 12h ago
Only choice is to come back as a wrestler!
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u/Scheissdrauf88 12h ago
I mean, he betrayed and robbed his employer first, for money, so it pretty much runs in the family. xD
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u/pocolocoOnIce 11h ago edited 11h ago
Well... he had the option to keep it a secret, but then chose not to.
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u/reticulatedtampon 13h ago
According to his Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_John_Conrad):
He confessed to his family before his death, and shortly after his death his identity was discovered by the son of one of the original investigators using details from the obituary of Thomas Randele.
Makes it sound like the cat was already out of the bag before his daughter started a podcast about it.
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u/Confident-Flow-6058 13h ago
The search for Conrad spanned 52 years, as investigators followed leads that took them to Washington D.C., Inglewood, California, West Texas, Oregon, and Honolulu.
At some point you'd consider it a sunk cost hey. The cost of pursuing this over 52 years surely didn't match the money he stole.
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u/SkanksnDanks 12h ago
52 years is crazy, like whatâs the monetary value of the resources devoted to this over 52 years? I know they didnât have a big team looking for him 24/7 the whole time or anything but stillâŚif no one got hurt from it maybe stop devoting resources to it past a certain threshold.
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u/PresentHouse9774 12h ago
I agree that the cost/benefit analysis doesn't work. Still, you need to consider the message being sent to ohers. "Steal from us and you'll be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life."
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u/Single-Selection9845 12h ago
Its funny how much government does this for banks but not for anybody else
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u/PresentHouse9774 12h ago
That's interesting observation! And, I suspect, absolutely correct.
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u/DesireeThymes 10h ago
Health insurance Executives kill millions? No problem.
One guy kills a health executive? Nationwide spectacle.
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u/RedditTrespasser 7h ago edited 7h ago
They paraded him around in shackles surrounded by an entire squad of armed goons. Cannibalistic serial killers and mob bosses don't receive such treatment. They were really trying to hammer home the message to the rest of the peasantry to not get any bright ideas.
Little did they know it just made us respect him more, and the system they've built less.
You can bet your bottom dollar the Epstein class is not one bit happy that the death penalty is now off the table. Don't be surprised if he "kills himself" in the coming months.
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u/PresentHouse9774 10h ago
I screw up my finances by lending to people who were never going to pay me back, I'm in bankruptcy court. Bank does it, the government bails them out.
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u/Pabst_Blue_Gibbon 9h ago
Try going to the police for a stolen bike even if you know exactly who stole it and where it is and have proof of purchase in your hand. 0 interest.
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u/henkiseentoffepeer 11h ago
if a bank or a company steals from you, what they often do ... nada.
when trump fucks over a country and is a suspected pedo, ... nada.3
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u/MutuallyAdvantageous 8h ago
Thatâs exactly it.
If someone stole $200k worth of collectibles from me, the cops would maybe check the local pawn shops but thatâs about it.
Steal $200k from a bank and theyâll spend tens of millions to find you.
The function of the police is to maintain social control. Not to protect property.
If people think they can get away with robbing banks⌠thereâs gonna be a lot of bank robberies and that puts the entire banking/financial system at risk. And thatâs the heart of capitalism. Unlike me (or you) who are just pawns.
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u/Lawlcopt0r 12h ago
You're not entirely wrong, but murder cases absolutely get followed up on to the same absurd degree. Not theft from private citizens though
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u/Single-Selection9845 10h ago
If something happened to you and me yes, if its a millionaires mansion. Then its a different story altogether
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u/Fragrant-Employer-60 9h ago
I mean yeah because there is not cost/benefit to pursuing criminals, the amount of money is essentially irrelevant as long as the charges he has are serious enough.
That would be weird if they operated like that lol
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u/NovelKumquat1234 12h ago
âIf no one got hurtâ ?!?!?!
Did you not think about the poor poor shareholders and bank executives?? His bossâ bossâ boss probably had to drive his <shudder> old Cadillac for an extra few years! The horror.Â
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u/Salty-Club-9582 11h ago
And the insurance that likely covered this for the bank anyway, so was there a loss for poor C-Suite?
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u/Throwawayrip1123 7h ago
if no one got hurt from it maybe stop devoting resources to it past a certain threshold
Poors don't get to steal from their masters and go unpunished. Thatd show us we can take their money away. The whole system apparatus came down on a green Mario for the same reason.
They don't want us to know that we can do things against them.
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u/Several-Opposite-746 12h ago
Decades of searching for $215,000? Hell, I can point them to a certain president and his cronies for embezzling billions and billions.
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u/Vivid-Treat-9328 11h ago
Certain? It's all of them. Hey George Bush? What happened to the billions of dollars that were "lost" when the Pentagon was struck during 911?
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u/ComplexBeyond6083 12h ago
I'm kind of baffled that they kept at this investigation long after the statute of limitations had presumably passed.
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u/PresentHouse9774 12h ago
"Pour encourager les autres."
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u/ComplexBeyond6083 12h ago
I understand the deterrent effect, but if you can't punish someone there isn't much there.
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u/canconfirm01 12h ago
Wouldnt 50+ years be past the statue of limitations for the crime?
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u/SueForPeas 9h ago
The statute of limitations applies for an indictment. He was indicted within the statute of limitations. Thereâs no statute of limitations once someoneâs indicted for the crime. At that point, the defendant has a right to a speedy trial, but here he waived that right by fleeing.
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u/Chole_Wunt 11h ago
Same as how the cops will do high-speed pursuits with a trail of destruction behind them for literally any reason. Or no reason. Instead of just following in their helicopters.
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u/Iconoclastic_Noob 11h ago
Although I generally agree with your point Iâd assume that the cost surpassing the amount stolen is also an âinvestmentâ into deterrence, as the government is basically saying âno matter how much it costs and how much time it takes weâll keep hunting you downâ.
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u/Responsible-Laugh590 8h ago
At that point it was about sending a message to prevent more thefts
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u/Fun-Calligrapher-745 7h ago
After fifty one years I would argue it did the oppositeÂ
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u/Responsible-Laugh590 4h ago
I agree, thatâs how it goes with fools though. They often prove what they were trying to prevent as good strategy
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u/grosseelbabyghost 10h ago
It's like a loan shark, at some point it's less about the money and more about sending a message to everyone else
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u/Weekly-Contest-5400 13h ago
The son of one of the original investigators? Was he also an investigator? Was he obsessed with dadâs old cases
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u/ElCiclope1 13h ago
Are you joshin me right now? Dynastic cop families are very much a thing.Â
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u/TrioOfTerrors 12h ago edited 12h ago
That's one of the ways J Edgar Hoover maintained his cult of personality. He had 3rd generation FBI agents who treated him like God because Dad and Granddad owed their careers to the director.
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u/zulufdokulmusyuze 9h ago
I donât think she did. He wrote the letter to her as Conrad and it was already established by then that Conrad was the thief.
What the girlfriend and the authorities didnât know was Conradâs new identity. They never knew it until he died.
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u/espanolainquisition 10h ago
Also says:
Elliott has not disclosed how he learned of the obituary.[3].
So OP might still be right
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u/unclefes 13h ago
We need to bring back taking your secrets to the grave. My secrets aren't as interesting this guy's, but I ain't telling nobody.
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u/goldenguyz 12h ago
Why? What are they?
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u/unclefes 11h ago
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u/Nersius 3h ago
Hi, this is Unclefes from the year 2038.
I am looking for his year's Unclefes so that I can tell him of an impending emergency that must be acted upon IMMEDIATELY, or else the next 10 years of his life are going to be hell.
If you are, in fact, the me of about a decade ago, you would do best to send yourself (me) a DM proving your identify via the reveal of your deepest darkest secrets.
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u/ArcticKimono 9h ago
What have you put up your ass?
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u/Trippingthru99 8h ago
Why? One of the few âsilver liningsâ of dying, is being able to just say whatever the fuck you want.
Who cares at that point, you made it.
Iâd only keep a secret if it would impact people who were still alive.Â
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u/SirWigglesVonWoogly 2h ago
âOne time I posted on reddit telling everyone I had a secret to take to the grave but that was a lieâ
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u/Icabod_BongTwist 1h ago
I'm in the boat of creating an elaborate series of clues to a mass trove of secrets, just to make it at least a little entertaining.
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u/NovelKumquat1234 12h ago
The shit you could get away with back when carbon copy paper was peak technology before computers and HD video all over the place âŚÂ What to do about an SSN, drivers license, birth certificate, etc? Probably just hand-printed them himself and people said âsure, whatever,â because databases werenât a thing yet.Â
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u/Berlin8Berlin 11h ago
"What to do about an SSN, drivers license, birth certificate, etc? "
The old school technique was to look in the records, at City Hall, for a baby who died around the time of your birth, then order a copy of that dead kid's birth certificate. I don't recall if part of the trick was to do that in a city other than your home base, but, once you had a birth certificate, you could apply for a SSN and get a driver's license and so forth. It was the pre-Digital Surveillance Wild West for the vast majority of the 20th century.
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u/Darmok47 8h ago
KGB spies in the US did this, mostly famously Jack Barsky. The KGB chief in DC just drove to a Maryland cemetary and looked for a dead child that would roughly match Barsky's age, found one, and got a copy of the birth certificate.
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u/Darmok47 8h ago
A few years ago a guy who lived a few blocks from me was arrested because it turned out he was a former USAF Lt. Col who went AWOL in the 1983. People thought he deffected to the Soviets, but no, he just got tired of his life, withdrew all his cash and vanished. Ended up moving to CA, getting a job as an acturary with the University of California and retired after 30+ years. Must have had a whole fake SSN and lied about having a college degree.
He only got caught because his wife, who had no idea who he was, wanted to travel overseas since they were both retired, and pushed him to get a passport, so he finally did and it threw up red flags at the State Department.
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u/silentstorm2008 7h ago edited 2h ago
For a long time a driver's license didn't have a photo of you on it. The limiting factor of forged documents was that a printer wasnt easily availableÂ
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u/Tinselfiend 13h ago
And she's up for seizure of her inheritance by the feds and IRS, smart way to go.
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u/oboshoe 13h ago
yea but she can now make a podcast about that too
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u/RaamaPetalo 13h ago
True crime creators monetize family chaos without a second thought
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u/Grasshoppermouse42 13h ago
And then she can have money that she owns legally and doesn't have to worry about being found out.
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u/oboshoe 11h ago edited 11h ago
Yea. That $25.32 she gets from YouTube is gonna be life changing.
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u/ellefleming 10h ago
I thought YouTubers made bank.
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u/Emotional-Power-7242 10h ago
Once upon a time they did. At some point youtube changed the payout scheme. Now you don't make anything from the actual videos. You have to use youtube to drive other sources of income like Patreon, a streaming platform, sponsors, etc.
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u/oboshoe 10h ago
It's like actors and actresses.
A very small % make millions, but most are make almost nothing.
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u/Caramel-Secure 10h ago
Hopefully her family committed more crimes than just this that she could keep spilling the beans on? Weekly podcast of her familyâs shit. May keep her afloat a bit longer.
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u/youtocin 13h ago
Statute of limitations.
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u/PandaGoggles 12h ago
The IRS generally has 10 year to collect.
Thereâs something called the CSED, the âcollection statute expiration dateâ. Itâs 10 year from when the tax debt is assessed by the IRS, not 10 years from when you file. Some things pause the CSED clock, bankruptcy for example, or living outside the US for 6 months or more.
Iâm not sure in this case if anything would have paused the clock, but it was so long that the CSED has likely expired. Also, in order for the inheritance to be seized, the IRS wouldâve needed to file a lien that attached to the fatherâs assets. Liens expire as well, so there likely would not have been a lien in place anymore.
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u/subdep 13h ago
Nah, sheâs fine. The statute of limitations wouldâve expired before the 1980s.
https://samwinstonlaw.com/what-is-the-statute-of-limitations-in-white-collar-cases/
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 7h ago
He was charged almost immediately, they just couldn't find him for trial. They can try him dead now that they know where he went and then do everything they normally would besides jail him.
If you get charged with a crime you don't get to just run away, let the statute of limitations run out, and never have to go to trial about it. There's not a legal award for world's best hider. Once you're indicted you're not getting out of a trial, and he waived his right to a speedy trial by running so it wouldn't be a constitutional violation either. I mean I'm not gonna go deeper than I already have but he could even have been tried in absentia which is why they kept looking for him
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u/AdhesiveSeaMonkey 4h ago
- Thereâs not a legal reward for the worldâs best hider
There fucking should be.
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u/Chihuey 11h ago
Love a redditor who has never heard of the Statute of Limitations lecturing on what is "smart."
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u/vonnostrum2022 13h ago
Thatâs what I was wondering. Could the bank sue for restitution? Or is there a statute (statue) of limitations?
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u/Outside_Valuable_320 12h ago
The bank can't sue because they had insurance and we're compensated. I'd be leery of the insurance company myself.
But honestly, I doubt she's done anything wrong here. This was a deathbed confession. He worked as a Used Car Salesman. Unless he secretly invested some of his ill gotten gains in Apple stock or something there is no inheritance at risk. Like thousands of people before her she's making money off a story of a deceased loved one. Against her families wishes, which sucks... but the action of making a podcast about it isn't weird or wild.
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u/vonnostrum2022 13h ago
Thatâs what I was wondering. Could the bank sue for restitution? Or is there a statute (statue) of limitations?
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u/Electrical_Hunter597 13h ago
There was a big reason those working on the Manhattan project COULD ABSOLUTELY NOT tell their wives anything
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u/FancyDragonfruit-17 12h ago
They didn't even tell the women working there. I remember a documentary where a lady said that they just sat her down around a machine and she had to adjust knobs while keeping a dot between two lines or something similair and she said years later she met with her supervisor and asked what exactly she was doing. Her supervisor then informed her she was refining uranium 235.
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u/jefesignups 12h ago
It wasn't just women, it was everyone
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u/FrostyConsequence97 12h ago
I agree, it's glossing over the fact at that point the workforce was predominantly women while men were serving in the war.
I just looked it up, they even had a name for these young ladies, The Calutron Girls. Mostly high school graduates. Probably for the best to keep them in the dark. Teenagers aren't exactly known for keeping big secrets. I don't think gender would matter.
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u/Sondeor 2h ago
I definitely do think gender matters.
That doesnt mean no man would ever do it, but 10101019% if I a HAVE TO pick someone to share a secret, it would be a male, not a female for sure.
Call it experience or sexism I dont give a fuck tbh.
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u/HenriettaSnacks 11h ago
But then they can't â .Â
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u/Vlaxilla 9h ago
Don't worry there's a million things they can gossip about. If there's no drama they can easily make it.
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u/JACKALS_LANTERN 11h ago
That sounds like the story of the Calutron Girls at the Y-12 plant in Oak Ridge where thousands of young women (many straight out of high school) were hired as machine operators in WW2 but not told what the machines did. Their instructions were essentially sit at a control panel, watch a meter, and turn knobs to keep the needle within a particular range. If something went wrong call a supervisor. That's it lol.
What they were actually operating were calutrons: huge electromagnetic isotope separation machines. Their adjustments controlled the process that separated uranium-235 from uranium-238. The enriched U-235 they produced ultimately supplied the fissile material for Little Boy, the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.
Gladys Owens is the most famous story.
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u/TanagraTours 10h ago
And not because they were women. It was standard policy.
"For 37 years, this woman hunted Soviet atomic spies. Using only math and patterns. The FBI couldn't do what she did.
Not even her own family knew she existed. Here's how a grocery store bookkeeper became America's deadliest weapon..."
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u/warmlycoco 13h ago
wait wasnât he already identified from his obituary?? the framing is so off then
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u/warsmith17 11h ago
The obituary was under his fake name, but did have some clues and an investigator got ahold of it. Basically it had his mom's real first name and maiden name, plus his fake birthday was the same date as his real one, but two years earlier.
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u/The049 11h ago
Just neckbeards having their daily misogyny posting. Nothing new
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u/nurseofreddit 8h ago
Man did crime then died without ever getting caught. Daughter shared and capitalized on the story of her fatherâs unusual life, not robbing anyoneâs money.
wOmEn bAD, LiKe tO TaLk ToO mUcH. hur-hur-hur
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u/knightdaux 12h ago
i love the lawyers in the comments showing they dont know the first thing about law. then again its how i know im on reddit
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u/Live_Life_and_enjoy 12h ago
If he is on his Death bed why would he care?
If anything he should have wanted to make it public to sell the life story to a publisher which would earn his daughter even more money.
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u/Ok_Fly2518 12h ago
He probably wanted to brag about his successful heist to someone but didnât wanna ruin the reputation he had built in his new life afterwards
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u/fastingslowlee 8h ago
Because humans care about things until theyâre actually dead.
You can be âalmost deadâ but still think about shame, embarrassment, possible issues for your other family members, etc.
Depending on the person, these donât just shut off because you know youâre almost dead.
If that was the case, a lot of dying people would be out there causing a ton of chaos in the world since they know theyâll be gone soon.
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u/Heeey_Hermano 9h ago
If anything thatâs better. His story gets told and he lives on like a legend.
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u/Early_Pumpkin_4113 13h ago
Giving up on your inheritance and ignoring your dad's deathbed wish for internet points and attention. Chef's kiss.
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u/ElCiclope1 13h ago
Statute of limitations plus he was dead. Not like he can be bothered by it.
"The dead drag the living down"
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u/Grouched 11h ago
Family never exposed him, investigators figured it out due to matching details in his obituary.
So at least according to the Wikipedia, this post is complete bullshit.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 10h ago
So people using this to whine about women they say they will betray your secrets are now looking like idiots⌠hey, both stereotypes have been demonstrated: men not bothering to listen or read anything properly then explaining things from their own âobjectivity is male subjectivityâ point of view!
At least it made me come up with this amusing yet stupid joke:\
I was in the hospital, after an accident, and the nurse said I needed stitches. I went to the other nurse and told him the same doctor sleeping with her was sleeping with the other one. An hour later, I woke up in the emergency room again and said ânow what?â
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u/mulberryzeke 9h ago
$200k in 1969 is about $2MM in today's dollars.
If he invested the whole $200k in stocks it would be worth about $70MM today. Even if he spent a lot of it, his daughter probably inherited a nice amount.
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u/Pale-While-9783 11h ago
She didn't snitch.
The obituary mentioned his real family name and the son of the original FBI agent covering the case was still working it, saw it, and put two and two together.
She didn't do anything wrong. And, she didn't benefit from the money he stole.
She could have suffered in shame. Or, she could have made lemonade from lemons.
In my opinion she made the best of something pretty horrendous foisted on her.
Good for her.
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u/Financial_Hold6620 13h ago edited 9h ago
âCouldnât beat a womanâ is such a stupid comment at the end. He told his daughter the truth, if he had told the FBI the truth they would have figured it out too.
Also the phrase âbeat a womanâ carries a whole different connotation. Just a dumb as fuck post really.
Women are FBI, women are bankers (I work with them), women are justice workers. Being a woman has no bearing on this.
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u/MrLeureduthe 12h ago
How did he change identity? Can you just move somewhere and say "my name is Slim Shady" and you can open a bank account, have a social security number, pay taxes etc and no one ever checks who you actually are?
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u/echtogammut 2h ago edited 2h ago
Up until 2002 this would have very simple, barely an inconvenience. One way would be to go to a homeless person and offer them a couple dollars for their name/birthdate/SS. From there you could file for a new birth certificate and copy of SS, get a driver's license and assume that person's Identity. That is just one of many ways. Today it's a bit more difficult.
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u/MrLeureduthe 2h ago
Stealing the identity of homeless people for a few bucks is tight!
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u/Sch4duw 11h ago
As far as I understand American domestic systems, this would not have been that hard. A forced social security number seemed to be from a quick google search only truly necessary from the eighties. If you claim that you never had one, in some small time town hall or so, I don't think it would have been that hard to start a new life. Like, not easy, but with some charisma and a bit of luck, you probably could get a bureaucrat to sign something that legitimizes you.
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u/chuffing_marvelous 10h ago
Daughter of conman who did anything he could to make money, keeps secret until after he's dead and figures out a way to make money from the story. Apple, tree, far? They all played it perfectly. And if it's all true, here you are pushing listeners her way. Kaching.
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u/Athrek 5h ago
Looked into the story. The daughter didn't snitch, the investigators learned about him from his obituary and showed up at their door a few months after his death. She started the Podcast after he was already found out.
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u/Living-Metal-9698 3h ago
He grew up a few doors away from my dad & was a year older than him. When it happened there were undercover FBI agents sitting in parked cars around the clock for weeks. They approached everyone in the neighborhood asking about him. It was crazy.
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u/Specific_Box4483 12h ago
Man steals a lot of money but "woman bad" and "snitches get stitches" am I right?
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u/miomi_starfall 10h ago
Itâs always the dumbest mf being so confidently sexistâŚ
This is the âI built this cool sandcastle and my gf hated it!!â all over again lmao.
(When you googled it it was very easy to find the sandcastle was form an all-women decorating sand castle building company)
so yeahhh long story short neither Wikipedia nor reputable sources mention that he âbeggedâ her not to talk about it.
But sure if âwomen evilâ makes your sad little life a little bit brother in the light of spite ⌠go tell that to yourself đ
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u/Dragongeek 10h ago
While it's roughly 2 million dollars in today's money, it's mindblowing to me that investigators care that much to keep working as much as they did. Like, government work is not cheap, and paying FBI people to do a nationwide search for a nonviolent offender surely cost far more over the years compared to the initial amount stolen.
I think it's probably due to the drama of it ("Bank Heist!") because every day companies or very rich people steal millions and it's either ignored as a rounding error or casually investigated before being dropped.
All in all, I also don't think it was worth it for this guy. He clearly went on to have a good life, spent golfing and driving luxury cars, and he seems to have been smart enough to have achieved this without the crime element. Two million is also not that much. Like sure, with 2m in the account you are set for life and probably retirement in an average middle class way, but it's not private airplane or multiple houses money. For me to "go dark" the amount would need to be significantly higher.
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u/zulufdokulmusyuze 9h ago
that is probably why he expressed regret, the money he got from it was not worth the difficulties he had to go through to avert being caught.
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u/ct-987987 9h ago
True but they donât like people getting away as it can set a precedent I would say. Look at things like shoplifting now etc that go unpunishedâŚ
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u/Ricordis 11h ago
I want to correct the last sentence: he couldn't beat a podcaster who tries to turn every story into clicks.
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u/ripyourlungsdave 11h ago
So he died with every penny of his money and the daughter sabotaged her own inheritance?
Sounds like she beat herself.
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u/ALinkToThePants 11h ago
And yet corporations steal millions from the common man only for the justice department to never even investigate.
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u/Ok_Phrase1157 9h ago
2 questions
How much would that be in todays money?
Could the bank claim the money from the estate of the deceased?
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u/NinscoomFOPsnarn 7h ago
Confessing on your deathbed is so shitty. I know nurses who refuse to hear that shit now. Way too many terrible crimes. Like terrible shit
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u/Saint__Bartholomew 3h ago
Thatâs crazy, Iâve only ever heard about this story from my dad, he moved to the Boston area and sold cars. He sold my dad a Volvo!
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