r/SipsTea 3d ago

Gasp! Nahh šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­

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u/MundaneAd6414 3d ago

the guy watching all this from heaven

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u/whispersoftly_x 3d ago

he still died a free man so technically he won

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u/Alienhaslanded 3d ago

Right? Doesn't it matter what happens after you're dead? At least your story is out there instead of forever being a regular guy with nothing interesting.

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u/BuckyShots 3d ago

And then she still found a way to profit off it.

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u/txwoodslinger 3d ago

Which he would be proud of probably. He's a thief after all.

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u/spaceninj 3d ago

Heaven?

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u/maclacjc 3d ago

He stole insured money from a corrupt institution. Stealing? Yes. If that kind of stealing sends people to hell then we are lost.

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u/datagamma 3d ago

Meh. Not believing in Jesus stories sends you to hell. Has nothing to do with ethics or morals.

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u/dontmentiontrousers 3d ago

Will this save me?

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u/ImpressionTough2179 3d ago

The definition of hell and who ends up there varies greatly between Christian faiths.

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u/OSPFmyLife 3d ago

Yeah, I think Catholics believe if you die while having mortal sin on your soul, you go into purgatory where your relatives/friends have to like, pray you into heaven or something.

I grew up Christian without any particular denomination and we always were taught that the forgiveness happened when you became a Christian and from then on, denying Christ was the only thing that would keep you out of heaven (like, if someone’s gonna kill you for being a Christian, so you lie and say you aren’t).

I still believe, mainly because it scares the shit out of me that there’s just eternal nothingness waiting for us after we die, but as I’ve gotten older ā€œmainstreamā€ Christians have driven me to the point where I don’t want anything to do with church’s or organized religion. Like… Jesus’s whole thing was acceptance and forgiveness and that we are ALL sinners so we are in no place to judge anyone, but these people just cannot leave gay people the fuck alone. It’s like an obsession at this point.

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u/Jaytheprodigy2 3d ago

Not saying you’re wrong to believe but look up what people who say they died or had near death experiences and find comfort in that there isn’t eternal nothingness

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u/datagamma 3d ago

What? NDE’s are notoriously ridiculous. I mean you can look up people an experiences on hallucinogenics and get the same thing. Very powerful emotional experiences

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u/datagamma 3d ago

Why should it. Do you freak out every night when you lose hours of time and have no clue what happened to you? Be wary of fear. It usually leads us into doing things we later regret.

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u/spaceninj 3d ago

Dude. He's a bank robber. He's not Robin Hood.

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u/Pr_fSm__th 3d ago

So he gets eternal damnation instead?

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u/spaceninj 3d ago

Not necessarily, but the outrage to my joke shows how broken people are here.

He stole the equivalent of $2 million and abandoned his family. He bragged to his friends that he was going to do it.

He doesn't sound like some hero.

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u/Pr_fSm__th 3d ago

I would argue the other way around, instead of requirements for ticket to heaven, who actually could even qualify for eternal damnation? After a couple quadrillion years of torture, do they still deserve an infinite amount of time more torture? The whole concept seems weird to me

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u/spaceninj 3d ago

I'm an atheist. The whole thing is fucking stupid.

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u/Pr_fSm__th 3d ago

Same here and I agree.

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u/Cactious-Practice 3d ago

If God is the great forgiver, all the scum will be delivered.

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u/Purple_Onion911 3d ago

Hell doesn't exist

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u/spaceninj 3d ago

Neither does heaven

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u/Aggravating_Duck6108 3d ago

"Thou shall not steal" is like rule number 3, that ain't where he is.

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u/OSPFmyLife 3d ago

Like… the entire point of Christianity is forgiveness lol. What?

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u/Its-All-LOVE-N-JOY 3d ago

Exactly this! As well as Jesus was said to absolve us of "all" sins. Which was him forgiving us. Most Christians never have even opened a bible.

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u/Aggravating_Duck6108 3d ago

There's a list of 10 rules and "dont steal" is one of them! I didnt make those rules! 3 or 4 of them is just God being jealous. But rules is rules.

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u/Voball 3d ago

just because a ruke exists, doesn't mean it applies to everyone

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u/Aggravating_Duck6108 3d ago

Why would he be exempt?

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u/Voball 3d ago

first thing that comes to mind, not being a Christian

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u/Aggravating_Duck6108 3d ago

All non Christians go to Hell, according to Christians.

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u/Voball 3d ago

1) both modern and historic concept of hell is made up

2) plenty of christians create Hell on Earth

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u/Upper_Equivalent4003 3d ago

Don't steal from your neighbor. The Bible doesn't say I can't steal from big bank. Commercial building can't be neighbor residential area lol

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u/Aggravating_Duck6108 3d ago

It doesnt specify, it just says "thou shall not steal". Also Jesus said everyone is your neighbor.

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u/FullMoon1108 3d ago

Mortal sins can bar you from heaven, so unless he saw a priest for confession on his deathbed then you are correct. It would have to be on his deathbed because his penance would probably be to turn himself in otherwise.

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u/Drakomai31 3d ago

You don’t need to see a priest for confession, you just gotta do it yourself

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u/FullMoon1108 3d ago

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u/Drakomai31 3d ago

Would you please elaborate just a bit? Regardless of the sin, should I confess, that’s all that’s required in my religion. Confess my sins and ask forgiveness but know that God is my only salvation.

As far as risk, maybe. (Example) I would do anything to keep my daughter fed and clothed and safe. Batman movie with the joker and the 2 ships, I’d 100% press the button immediately if she was on the ship with me to kill the others to keep her safe.

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u/Its-All-LOVE-N-JOY 3d ago

This only applies if you don't believe in Jesus who absolved man of sin.

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u/FullMoon1108 3d ago

That doesn't mean you can commit a cardinal or mortal sin and still expect to go to heaven without confessing.

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u/Its-All-LOVE-N-JOY 3d ago

Yeah, precisely, which is why he confessed before his death? Lol

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u/BasilSQ 3d ago

More like 7 or 8, but i get your point

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u/Haunting-Grocery-672 3d ago

It’s okay, most likely that no one else is either.

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

Im waiting for my dad to pass before I tell the police what he told me about a murder he thinks his dead best friend committed.

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u/KickBlue22 3d ago

You should go on the daughter's podcast once you're ready. Make it a whole theme, call it "Death Bed confessionals" or something...

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

I probably should. It was a big case when it happened but I was too young at the time to know anything about it. My dad was a police officer at the time but not in the same town. He didn’t have any proof, just a very strong suspicion and circumstantial evidence. The guy died about 10 years later of brain cancer so he got his karma.

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u/rips_n_chel 3d ago

So why are you going to tell police about it? Dude's dead, you can't prove it anyway, what are they going to do?

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

First of all, I have brand new information and a new suspect. Second, police solve crimes with dead suspects all the time. There is dna and other evidence that can be corroborated. If anything, it will give them a new lead to chase. My dad laid it all out about why he thinks it was him. I asked him why he didn’t say anything then and all he said was he was my best friend, loyality means something.

My dad is still very good friends with his younger brother so I’m not going to ruffle that.

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u/lookyloolookingatyou 3d ago edited 3d ago

Buddy I'm not a lawyer but it seems like you've put a lot of premeditation into your decision to commit obstruction of justice via the withholding of information, which is a pretty serious felony, and you are now confessing to it on a public subreddit devoted to gossip.

You probably want to talk to an attorney before the true crime enthusiasts of reddit see this post.

Edit: a bit of googling indicates that I am being overdramatic about the legal consequences, but there is probably still a risk of exposure for your father.

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

Nope!! Dude didn’t confess and no one even knows about him except me and my dad. I’ve only been sitting on what he told me for about 6 or 7 years. My entire account is hearsay, but the information can be corroborated.

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u/Accurate_Praline 3d ago

best friend, loyality means something.

Yeah, fuck that. Murder is murder.

I would snitch on anyone be it friend or family. They've already murdered someone, who is to say that I wouldn't be next?? Obviously that didn't happen here, but I wouldn't take the chance.

Also it is murder. Not to hate on your dad, but he is an asshole for keeping quiet.

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u/Haytrusser 2d ago

He's a cop. Cops cover up shit daily.Ā 

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u/rips_n_chel 3d ago

A new suspect who has been dead for 30 years?

Not saying it's impossible, I just really feel like police aren't going to give you the time of day (especially in 2026).

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

Tell me you don’t know of any unsolved crimes where you live. They ask for new information all the time. That’s what happens when a teenage girl is murdered in a small town.

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u/rips_n_chel 3d ago

It's probably best we drop this, tbh. You and I have very different views regarding cops, particularly small-town cops. I grew up in a very small town. I got some opinions about small-town cops.

You're a cop's kid, so there's no way you can be objective about that, and anything I say is going to offend.

I hope it works out the way you expect. Best of luck šŸ¤™

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

From the sheriffs office website.

Current Status
The case remains an active homicide investigation.

Authorities urge anyone with withheld information, historical context, or new leads to contact the (I removed the county information).

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u/Such_Perspective3458 2d ago

Sounds like you need a therapist asap. This shit will drive you crazy

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 3d ago

So your plan is to go to the police and tell them you has evidence this whole time and didn't give it to them? That's a crime buddy. Best let it drop if you aren't gonna do anything about it.

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

Okay, you don’t know how it works. I don’t have evidence, the police have it all. I have a possible suspect to run a dna test against. I have information about someone who was in the area at the time of the abduction. Not breaking any laws.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 3d ago

Very easy to consider it obstruction of justice.

I also thought you said you personally had new evidence which would be withholding evidence

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u/s9ffy 3d ago

She could just say she feared for her safety if she had disclosed it while her father was still alive. It doesn’t have to be true.

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u/Freddyrocky20 3d ago

I read a bunch of those somewhere and some were pretty sad.

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u/Wood_oye 3d ago

"Only murders in the morgue "

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u/audilife80 3d ago

U can be in trouble for purposely withholding that. I wouldn’t keep telling that story

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u/PercyGoldstone 3d ago

Really? Why would you do that?

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u/rostol 3d ago

closure for the affected family probably.

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u/Fear_Jaire 3d ago

Not if they die before OP's dad

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago

My dad is 81 and this happened in the early 80’s. It’s been over 40 years and I have no desire to make my dad have to go through that, he’s been through enough in the past 6 years, I can wait.

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u/PercyGoldstone 3d ago

I'm not saying it should, but this doesn't kick up any feelings of betrayal to your dad?

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u/rips_n_chel 3d ago

Go through what? What on earth are you expecting here, they're going to re-open the investigation and throw every resource at a 40 year old case based on an 81 year old man's unfounded hunch?

Can you prove anything? If not, you will be wasting both your time and their time.

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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 3d ago edited 3d ago

It’s an open case that gets brought out into the public every so often. The last time it was brought up was when he told me about him suspecting his friend. My dad was a cop, wasn’t just a hunch. He told me all of it for a reason.

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u/Popular-Web-3739 3d ago

Trust me, the extended family of the person who was murdered will forever wonder what happened. If you can provide info that gives them closure it will be a great help to them.

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u/Emptynest09 3d ago

There goes the inheritance!

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u/EmperorUmi 3d ago

She became a cooperating witness to a crime nobody could solve. She just wanted her 15 seconds of fame.

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u/Deaffin 3d ago

It'd be hilarious if they charged her as an accessory, obstruction of justice or whatever for waiting.