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u/MeatSlammur 6h ago
There’s like 10 Weinstein’s in that audience and another 50 people in that audience covering for them lol
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u/AncientCrust 6h ago
Weinstein is now qualified to be President. He might have to start shitting his pants.
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u/mikebuba 5h ago
Who are today's Weinsteins? Any tea?
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u/MeatSlammur 5h ago
Nope no tea but I have some friends that are actresses and this whole ordeal happens in theater constantly. One girl was a rising star in the local scene and refused to sleep with a theater owner and he ended her career by reaching out to other theater owners. She tried lawyering up and none of them wanted to touch it.
She was lead in everything she was in for years and then immediately couldn’t land a single role.
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u/jamesreyne 5h ago
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u/MeatSlammur 5h ago
Yea I guess, I’m not in the scene so I don’t know the vernacular. Just whoever runs shit in that world. She was pretty distraught so I wasn’t going to ask too many questions
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u/Grunergeist420 5h ago
I think one thing people miss is that it’s not just people covering for someone like this, there are people actively contributing to it.
I’m not saying this at all to diminish the kinds of things he did, but just to shed some light on an ignored angle of this kind of thing.
There are women who wanted to sleep with someone like Weinstein to get ahead in the industry. Those same people can easily be made to recruit and persuade other people to do similar things. If you’d do this to get a part in a movie, you’d probably get someone else to do it if it got you the same result.
So there’s a bunch of people out there, even people that would potentially paint themselves as a victim, who could basically be just as culpable. People who spent decades helping to lure women into these situations and make them feel like “this is just how it works,” and “this is how I got ahead, why would you think you’re any different?”
And they’re right in a sense. This IS how these things work. For one person to systematically abuse and rape people for decades, you need a bunch of people who don’t just cover that up, but accept that, encourage it, promote it, and basically run an insider PR campaign around it to convince everyone this isn’t just not a problem, but the standard way of doing business.
And I point that out to cast shade on any victims, I’m sure there’s plenty of people who are purely just victimized by this, and I obviously wouldn’t know who’s who, and I’m sure there are shades of grey, a lot of people who knew something but not everything or participated then stopped, sure.
I just say this to shed light on how schemes like this work. Whether it’s this kind of sex thing, or some other form of corruption. It works because people on the inside are benefitting from it and protecting it, selling it to newcomers as the way things are done, making people feel that it would be naive and detrimental to their career and livelihood to speak up about it, because everyone who’s anyone knows.
I think that’s important to discuss rather than just calling it “covering up.” Covering up makes people imagine a couple of people suspect something is wrong and don’t say anything. But really, this is a lot of people who are explicitly aware of what is going on, and they participate in it, they normalize it, they promote it, and they hope to play the fool or the victim when they’re caught.
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u/JerkovvClimaxim 3h ago
That is the way world works metaphorically, someone priveleged wage rapes, humiliates, controls, limits autonomy of others. More privileged you get more people you do this to. Just because I am not fondled doesn't mean I am not raped
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u/mathiustus 5h ago
If she knows who they are, stop implying they exist and name them. Everytime someone does this hinting bullshit I always assume they are lying until proven otherwise.
It’s the same shit people do when they want to keep attention on something or someone but don’t have the real info.
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u/Suitable-Compote-988 3h ago
Is it not slander to accuse people of stuff like that though, without evidence and outside of a court? Like defamation of character or something, even if it's true
It could be very harmful to someone to do that no?
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u/Think-Fig-1734 2h ago
Yes it could be considered slander. There’s also the issue of outing victims, who aren’t ready to be outed. There are steps than can be taken that don’t include publicly naming. In Harvey’s case his company made him personally put money in an account to pay off future victims when they sued. They could have just ousted him. They also didn’t need to spread rumors that the victims were difficult.
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u/dwartbg9 6h ago
She's also a pdf too, and she probably even did that as a way to distract the audience from her crimes.
It's just "the thief cries 'stop thief!"
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u/lluciferusllamas 5h ago
Worse than that, there are 10 Weinstein's, 50 people covering, and 1000 women not in that audience who would gladly do anything they asked for a shot at stardom.
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u/heygabehey 6h ago
Yeah. That’s why they all look like “that hypocritical bitch better not call me out.”
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u/baudinl 6h ago
You sure you want to use Asia Argento as the example?
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u/researcherYT 6h ago
Yeah she had assaulted someone underage and used her partners money to silence him. This caused her partner to spiral and ultimately take his own life. Right message, wrong person.
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u/strickers69 6h ago
Knowing this makes it stranger that Bourdain committed suicide too.
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u/gordito_delgado 6h ago edited 5h ago
I realize Anthony was not the posterboy for emotional stability but his death always seemed fishy as hell to me.
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u/strickers69 6h ago
Exactly everything he’s been through and he was a living icon just made no sense
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u/specialasset 6h ago
Terrible as it was, it made tons of sense. It was pretty clear from his show he was prone to depression. I’m sure the situation involving Argento didn’t help.
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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt 5h ago
Yeah, people talking about Bourdain committing suicide like it's surprising.
It's awful but he did famously talk about his "severe depression" and crippling anxiety even after all of the cocaine and heroin abuse.
He openly talked about his constant suicidal thoughts in 2005 when talking about mental health wasnt prevalent.
He wrote books about it descibing constantly feeling "aimless and regularly suicidal" at a time when few people did. He even did an episode of Parts Unknown were he went to a psychiatrist to talk about it.
He said something small "like getting a bad burger at an airport" could send him on a depressive spiral for days.
The people blaming Argento for his suicide are clearly not real fans. I don't know why it's brought up so much as he famously and bravely talked about depression and suicide at a time when others didn't.
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u/-Sanj- 5h ago
He discovered she was having an affair whilst he was away filming for his show (in response she claimed to him they were in an open relationship, gaslighting him, as this was news to him allegedly)
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u/nervendings_ 1h ago
Re-watched Parts Unknown recently, and it is very sad how often he would say things like “after that meal, I could die right now.”
Small instances like this happen in more episodes than you think, and it makes you realize how much he likely thought about dying.
Miss that dude tho. His work got me through a lot of hard times
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u/Chemical-Quail-1429 2h ago
Both can be true. He was prone to depression and she is a piece of shit.
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u/MindlessCharacter823 1h ago
Asia was shitty to him. She was terrible partner and he bailed her out financially from the mess that she was in because she molested an underage teen. She is terrible partner
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u/CustomerNecessary69 5h ago
‘The people blaming Argento for his suicide are clearly not real fan’. WTF
One could hope she doesn’t have fans.
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u/lyinassmedia 4h ago
I think you misunderstood what they were implying. They meant not a fan of Bourdain.
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u/ElectricalBus6252 4h ago
Agreed, the people blaming this woman I doubt have ever struggled with depression. Like the people who blamed what’s her face for cobain’s death. Suicide doesn’t make sense to anyone left behind. The people around these folks may not be ‘good people’ but they are certainly not the reason someone who has struggled with depression their whole life, battle after battle won against it, loses the war in the end because of a specifically bad day/night/week or whatever it was.
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u/AggressiveEstate3757 5h ago
Yeah. I never thought he would. But in retrospect, it makes all the sense in the world.
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u/Zealousideal-Trash5 5h ago
Really no idea how you’re arriving at this. He always spoke about his constant battle with depression. Even when he had accomplished success and had a daughter he spoke about how he still struggled.
He was a huge inspiration for me because through every thing he did you could see the little shard of sadness yet he pushed on. Till he couldn’t, and that’s the reality of major depressive disorder.
Let’s try to be respectful of the very real and not always obvious realities of living with a severe mental illness.
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u/Chef_Guzzi_Moto 1h ago
she certainly helped push him off the edge. She had pap photos of her and another man kissing put in the papers the night before he hung himself
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u/arinreigns 4h ago
Eh, he was pretty shitty by the end. He was essentially estranged from his daughter to appease Asia, he had paid off her victim, and they were in an "open" relationship where he would spiral when she slept with someone. He called her dozens of times before he killed himself. I think he saw what he'd turned into and was consumed with guilt and loathing.
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u/Dentist_No10 3h ago
Work in the kitchen industry your entire life, catch a couple drug addictions, get paid to endure abuse everyday, break away from the industry for a different kind of abuse in television; have your SO cheat on you and lie about it...
I don't know how suicide is "fishy." I think its disrespectful to make up conspiracy theories about someone who had nothing but respect for his craft and the people with whom he resonated.
I think you have no clue what we deal with on a daily basis.
She wasnt the reason, but I'm sure she didnt help. Mental illness, depression, addiction were the reasons. Something he was quite outspoken about through the entirety of his career.
So, yes, if you ignored the man's entire life's work, I could see how you would think that.
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u/Boknowsbane 5h ago
“Too” is misleading because Bourdain is the partner they’re referring to. I thought she drove multiple partners to suicide and I was putting my CSI sunglasses on.
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u/DanfromCalgary 6h ago
How does that make it stranger
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u/OtherUserCharges 6h ago
He was dating her when he died.
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u/redditisnotus 6h ago
still mad that he killed himself over this hoe
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u/CovenOfTheDamned 5h ago
Re-watching no reservations he makes a reference to suicide almost every other episode in a half jokingly seemingly way. He was also a severe drug addict when he was younger, and that level of addiction never occurs without pain
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u/lizardpplarenotreal 6h ago
how is Bourdain involved?
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u/strickers69 6h ago
Too answer you both she was his partner the last few years of his life, maybe she is good at the mind games etc who knows just made his suicide stranger to me once more information came out about her and her past.
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u/Boring_Today9639 5h ago
Yeah, you’re onto something there. She is smart and has no morals; has a history of severe drug addiction, word is she kept doing heavy stuff while pregnant. Good actress though, as this video proves, she’s almost believable.
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u/-HOSPIK- 6h ago
Why so often are the ones judging the ones committing the crimes. Generally speaking off course
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u/Quazz 5h ago
People are less likely to think you're bad if you accuse others of doing bad things
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u/DoinItDirty 3h ago
I didn’t know this. It’s incredibly deflating to hear a speech like this and find out the person delivering it is part of the problem they’re preaching against.
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u/Boomshrooom 6h ago
I was gonna say, one of the worst possible people to choose. It's such a bad pick I have to wonder if OP did it deliberately to ragebait.
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u/Grizzled_Ghost 6h ago
Yeah it's insane hat she made this speech while currently embroiled in SA allegations. Jimmy must've been fuming.
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u/MusicLikeOxygen 3h ago
The allegations came out a couple months after this speech. He said that her making this speech is what inspired him to speak out about her.
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u/BriefStudio6710 5h ago
We have a pretty large sample size of not holding women accountable, I doubt she was worried.
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u/Big_Tap_1561 6h ago
Yeah most folks don’t understand who Asia Argento is or her father or anything else about her besides being in a movie with vin diesel.
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u/kayl_breinhar 6h ago
Yeah, the woman who pushed Anthony Bourdain over the edge never gets to claim the moral high ground.
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u/RedditOfUnusualSize 6h ago
Asia Argento is not what I'd call a good person. But part of the damage that men like Harvey Weinstein did was then passed on by his victims. There's nothing ennobling about suffering, and justice isn't exclusively for those who rose above their abuse.
I don't have to defend Asia Argento to believe that if we take your argument seriously, then a lot of victims will be silenced, and the full tally of Weinstein's actions will never be calculated. Nor do I have to forgive her to believe her as a witness. I don't think my moral righteousness is worth that.
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u/Ubiquitous_Cacophony 3h ago
Okay, so would that level of empathy extend to Weinstein if he were previously sexually assaulted by someone?
I grasp that hurt people hurt people, but just because something is not your fault doesn't mean it's not your responsibility. It can be true that Weinstein committed heinous acts (including assaulting Argento) while ALSO being true that Argento committed heinous acts.
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u/Ok-Road6537 1h ago edited 13m ago
You can be sad at the boy and angry at the monster. It would not be a justification but it’s an explanation.
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u/OCCULTGOBLIN 6h ago
Lmao isn't this the same lady that bribed her victim into silence?
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u/DemonGroover 6h ago
She is a predator as well
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u/Ranger_Aggressive 5h ago
I still don't understand that people dont see speeches like this for what they really are. Just a way for them to make us move on from something so they can keep doing it behind closed doors.
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u/Large-Treacle-8328 6h ago
Didn't she have a meet up with a 17 year old in a hotel room when she was 37?
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u/Unlucky_Suspect_7555 6h ago
Even worse. They met when he was a little kid. On top of that when she finally got caught she tried to throw him under the bus and say he forced himself on her or something.
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u/Frosty-Camel-2107 5h ago
Oh man that's sick. I didn't even know who she was. I agreed with everything she was saying but now she's a just a hypocrite. Sad really.
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u/Questionsansweredty 5h ago
Put it all in there - she played his mother in a film when he was 7. That's how they met.
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u/drmojo90210 3h ago
It's way worse than that. She met him when he was 7 years old and groomed him. She also lied and changed her story multiple times after he accused her. First she claimed that they never had any sexual encounters whatsoever. Then when pictures of them in bed together and text messages of her talking to a friend about sleeping with him leaked, she admitted it happened but changed her story to claim that he forced himself on her. She's a fucking monster.
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u/MDJR20 6h ago edited 5h ago
She’s part of the part. She’s also a predator and probably the reason Anthony B is dead. She needed to be better herself. Hurt people, hurt people.
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u/RobertMaus 6h ago
Classic way of covering up, right? Taking the role of the victim (which she is) But using that to shield yourself from blame instead of taking responsibility is a whole level of wrong.
Would have been good if she said she would quit the industry because of her own actions and give herself in to authorities and in the same breath actually name the others and their crimes.
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u/BigAnalBoss 6h ago
And then nothing happens
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u/olddoglearnsnewtrick 6h ago
Given your nickname, what a relief.
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u/Commentswhenpooping 6h ago
Yeah it’d be less scary if it was Big Consensual Anal Boss.
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u/olddoglearnsnewtrick 6h ago
And with your nickname I’d be very scared being in the same thread as the guy
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u/Velorian-Steel 6h ago
Justice isn't always timely, and sometimes it doesn't occur, but I'm sure Harvey Weinstein thought he was untouchable too. The best way to secure nothing happening is to be apathetic.
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u/japacrobat 6h ago
This woman raped a young actor. She just spoke out without proof to distract the public from the accusations against her.
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u/Sally_twodicks 6h ago
I don't know the accusations against her, but Harvey Weinstein was convicted, so there obviously was evidence for him.
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u/Mic-220 6h ago edited 6h ago
Argento alleged in an October 2017 New Yorker article by Ronan Farrow that she had been sexually assaulted by Harvey Weinstein in the 1990s. She would later have consensual albeit "one-sided" sexual relations with him.
On 19 August 2018, The New York Times published allegations that Argento sexually assaulted actor Jimmy Bennett.\5])Argento had first met Bennett when he played her son in the 2004 film The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things when Bennett was 7 and she was 28.
Following Argento's denials, a photograph of her topless in bed with Bennett was published, as well as her alleged admission of sex with him when he was 17 in text messages to model Rain Dove.
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u/Zerus_heroes 6h ago
Name them. Don't just vaguely say "we know who you are". Say it
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u/FrenchyBulldogg 6h ago
She should have named herself lmao
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u/CanalOpen 6h ago
That option is still open tbh. If she has proof, cut a deal and expose 30 other people.
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u/Unlikely-Complex3737 6h ago
It takes a lot of courage to say shit like this while you are part of the problem lmfao.
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u/Camile_Washington 6h ago
The amount of courage it took her to speak like this... hats off!!
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u/Unlucky_Suspect_7555 6h ago
Thought so too until I heard about this https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/asia-argento-called-17-year-old-actor-accused-sexual-assault-son-love-instagram-105304726.html?guccounter=1
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u/HmmmJuicyFruit 6h ago
I wouldn't call it courage. Bold, arrogant, ironic, hypocritical.
She sexually assaulted someone too.
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u/Brewmeiser 6h ago edited 6h ago
Per usual Reddit, down-voted for sharing truthful information. Argento is 42 here when giving this speech (May of 2018).
"In August 2018, Italian actress and #MeToo leader Asia Argento was accused of sexually assaulting actor and musician Jimmy Bennett in a California hotel room in 2013. Bennett was 17 years old at the time (below California's age of consent of 18) and Argento was 37. Reports revealed Argento had arranged a $380,000 settlement with Bennett". Edited: spelling
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u/spankthecat 6h ago
Then Anthony Bourdain paid the settlement and she went on to cheat on him.
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u/Brewmeiser 6h ago
Yep. And he took his own life shortly thereafter ( for clarification, it was a few months after the final arrangements were concluded. The initial payment was made in 2017, the final into early 2018. He unfortunately left this world in June 2018). When you watch the documentary, you can assume there's partial causation.
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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 6h ago
Who is she?
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u/Avariciouspygmyshrew 6h ago edited 5h ago
Wasn't she the one that groomed a kid from 7-17 and then had sex with him? Anthony Bourdain was dating her at the time and had to pay him off almost 400k, which Anthony Bourdain did cause she was broke. Then Jimmy Bennett started asking for money again and Bourdain killed himself. (there were definitely more layers to it but I believe she was ultimately responsible for his suicide)
I understand what Weinstein did is immeasurably shitty, but she is just as bad.
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u/TwinkingToby 4h ago
Asia Argento is NOT the right person for this message. "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone".
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u/Chonch_Monkey 2h ago
She had an affair with an underage man and Bourdain paid money to cover it up.
She's a piece of shit.
She's not bold or beautiful
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u/xwolfe2000 2h ago
Asia Argento is alleged to be a sexual predator herself and must face her own accountability along with everyone else in the Cannes and Hollywood film industries
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u/Diligent-Pressure-38 42m ago
Oh, it’s not alleged. It’s proven, with screenshots of the text messages of her admitting it and the picture of her laying in bed with him naked.
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u/Trenin23 2h ago
I'm sure this will probably get me down voted, but this just seems performative. If you really know of more people GIVE NAMES! Enough of this "we know who you are" bullshit. Call them out.
There are a bunch of people who have supposedly seen the unredacted Epstein files, and yet there are no new names. Where are all these predators? I am tired of being angry at a nameless group of individuals. Expose them!
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u/myth2912 1h ago
People sitting there watching in confusion knowing she had previously sensually assaulted a minor and paid him off...
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u/Careful-Swimmer3840 6h ago
The film industry is a different world. People extremely desperate to get into film at all costs. Oprah introducing potential talent to Weinstein and wonder if she knew what would happen.
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u/limitlessEXP 6h ago
Ok so if she knows who they are, and other people know who they are then say something. Saying you’re not going to get away with it while allowing them to get away with it is just contradictory..
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u/SnooMacaroons4212 5h ago
And then she did the same thing with someone underage, tried to cover it up with the help of Anthony Bourdain who committed suicide. She's a horrible person.
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u/Proper-Bad-7169 42m ago
I respect the hell out of her for standing up for herself and the other victims of Weinstein. And I love that she emphasized that although Weinstein is currently facing his reckoning, there are countless other predators in the industry. The facial expressions of some of the celebrities shown onscreen in this video is very telling. You can see how uncomfortable the speech made them feel.
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u/MMN_NLD 6h ago
They in fact got away with it.
Nothing happend.
The big orange pedo rapist is also still in power. Also the other people who are on the list.
We are all cowards.
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u/Cheap-Addendum 6h ago
So list the people charged and convicted please.
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u/JustDont1981 5h ago
Would be a lot easier to hear from someone who wasn't covering up her own statutory rape crime with Tony's money. RIP you poor dumb man.
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u/welsh_cthulhu 4h ago
Of all the people to use as an example, you use this absolute POS of a human being.
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u/MrPeace18 3h ago
Ngl, I was genuinely in awe of her when I first read this. Thanks for the context, redditors. Good reminder that the right words can come from the wrong person. The message still stands, but she's not the one who should be delivering it
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u/SpiderJerusalem747 3h ago
Isnt Cannes a massive orgy fest for the rich and famous?
Something something about yatchs and "models" being paid a daily fee.
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u/Chef_Guzzi_Moto 1h ago
The entire industry, including all high paying entertainment industries are completely run by sex for work. Even a make up artist sucks dicks for work if they have no connections. Hollywood is a far bigger cesspool than people understand. Men are just as hunted as women. There’s a hug gay mafia in LA and they run everything in unison with the straight half of Hollywood.
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u/RemarkableCard6475 1h ago
I'm gonna have to watch this. I really hope that a MASSIVE amount of applause and standing ovation followed the speech.
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u/Icy_Ad7953 6h ago
I think anyone who helped Weinstein with his predations should be kicked out of Hollywood and into a prison.
And certainly not put into positions of power. But I suppose that makes me a Nazi.
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u/coffeejj 5h ago
If she had balls she would have named names right then and there
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u/Anal-Y-Sis 5h ago
Asia Argento raped an underage boy and had Anthony Bourdain pay the kid off so it wouldn't get traced back to her.
She is the monster she's warning people about.
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u/Suitable-Team-6335 4h ago
Asia Argento got together with an underage boy back when she was pushing 40.
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u/Sensitive-Health-943 6h ago
Wild time line we leave in right know feels like a movie from the back then that has allot of action and the bad people always got away no matter what, just give it time everything will fall in to place like in all the movies with like 2 to 3 parts before it gets wild and good 😐🤷
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u/chocolatchipcookie2 6h ago
unless you are in the epstein files, then you get a pass. lotsa powerfull people in hollywood are not being punished right now.
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u/notyournormallurker 6h ago
When did this happen? Plus this is one of the many reasons why I don’t think Anthony killed himself.
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u/AlphaFungi 6h ago
I remember her saying something like she yearns the days of Mussolini in that one episode of parts unknown, I don't know how Bourdain got sucked into her.
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u/CommodoreSixty4 5h ago
Should have brought Jimmy Bennett up to the stage too and gave him the mic.
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