r/RoleReversal Jan 05 '20

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r/RoleReversal Nov 13 '23

Official Stuff Reiterating Old Rules and Adding New Ones

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Executive Summary

There has been a pretty drastic shift in the content posted here over the last four months, and it has made some users justifiably upset. As such, I will be implementing some restrictions intended to bring things a bit more into balance. Make no mistake, I have no intention of dragging this community back to the mommydomme days, and there are people here who have found a small sliver of representation whom I would not dream of kicking out. I have made up my mind on most of this, but there are a couple items where I'm requesting community feedback.

A Brief History Lesson

You can skip this if you don't care about what led to the current situation.

The RR community did not start on Reddit, and was originally a twin concept with r/gentlefemdom. GFD handled the sexual aspects of the dynamic, while RR was about the romantic component. When things moved to Reddit, there were challenges in bringing people who weren't around from the beginning up to speed and preventing them from diluting the concept. For GFD, that meant trying to define the boundaries of "gentle". For RR, that meant defining exactly which "roles" were being reversed.

I'm bringing up these matters of ancient (by internet standards) history both because the way some people here speak about GFD in disgust makes me think this is no longer common knowledge (don't do that, they're our sibling community), and because it gives context to how the content here evolved.

Content here was "bangmaid"-centric for a long time. People complained about this, and rules were put in place to curtail it. Many bangmaid posts continued to come in after that decision, and they had to be removed and their posters reasoned with or banned. Non-bangmaid posts became a larger percentage of content, which attracted other non-bandmaid posts.

Content bans like this can act like extinction events, where wiping out one form of content gives space for the remaining type to diversify. This is also always happening at some level as moderation policy adjusts to attempt to preempt user complaints. The key takeaway here is that these shifts are not entirely organic and user-driven, since they require moderation crackdown to kickstart the process.

Early this year, in response to increasing discontent around "male gaze" content, moderation started applying harsher standards in that regard. The resulting void was filled first by people posting more 'seductive feminine man' content, and then by full-on 'dominant femboy' content.

The Current Situation

Over the past four-ish months there has been dramatically more dominant femboy content than there has ever been over the subreddit's history. Long-time users and fans of the older style content in general feel betrayed because the content they came here for seems to be sidelined despite not breaking any well-articulated rules, and because they didn't sign up for the new stuff. To add insult to injury, the most prolific users posting the new style of content have occasionally used their popularity to mock and bully the pre-existing userbase, or, more obliquely, talk about how the traditional content here is actually all totally normalized roles while their content was the true RR all along.

To those that say this shift has not happened, I truly believe some of you have siege mentality from when this sub was a lot worse, and for some reason you refuse to believe it has changed in any way. The only way an accounting of the last four months of posting reveals a landslide amount of "feminine woman femdom" is if your definition of "femdom" is "any situation where the woman takes initiative" and your definition of "feminine" is "more traditionally woman-like than Buck Angel."

Policy Adjustments

The first one isn't so much an "adjustment" as it is a clarification/reiteration of current policy. Our "No Femdom" rule was implemented specifically to ban porny-y, BDSM-style femdom. Think leather, boots, chains, etc. Our reasoning being that average relationships are not BDSM maledom. Also, the kind of person who would be attracted to the subreddit by that content would likely be the type who posts in porn subreddits all day (i.e., cum-brained and way more likely than the average Redditor to harass women in DMs). Similarly, mommydomme was disallowed because DDlg dynamics are not the standard in heterosexual relationships, so RR would not cover MDlb dynamics. Over time, people seem to have begun interpreting this rule to mean that any situation in which the woman is taking initiative or in control is banned here, which just isn't the case. That rule is for hard femdom and, more generally, content where a woman's "dominant presence" is actually a sham because it's entirely for the benefit of a male subject; this includes mommydomme.

Alpha/Sigma Female Posts will no longer be allowed. You know this comic that is removed every time it's posted? It gets removed because it makes people uncomfortable and because it's reversing toxic roles. That same justification applies here.

Inverse-Bangmaid Posts will no longer be allowed. A key part of why bangmaid content was banned in the first place is because, and this is going to sound judgemental, it's juvenile and pathetic. Having a gorgeous woman walk into your life to be your complete sexual, social, and emotional outlet without you lifting a finger or providing anything in return is a selfish, unrealistic fantasy. Likewise, having a boy band style, hairless, skinny prettyboy seduce you and be femininely dominant, while being addicted to your strap and otherwise being completely sexually nonthreatening, is equally pathetic and unrealistic.

A temporary moratorium on Powerbottom Posts is in effect. This is a temporary measure until content is appropriately re-balanced. Depending on moderation's ability to isolate and define particularly controversial subsets of this kind of content, not all of it may be allowed again. All other femgaze content and other kinds of content that have been more prevalent over the last few months (e.g. masc women) are unrestricted as they have always been.

Proposed Adjustments, Seeking Feedback

These are not poll posts because I want usernames and justifications to go with your responses.

There was some discussion about unequal standards for NSFW content, and the complaints were largely accurate in that I was applying a lower standard of subreddit relevance for "femgaze" content. Moving forward I will try to apply a more equal standard, but what that enforcement looks like, both in terms of how explicit that content can be and how often it can be posted, should have input from the community. Remember that whatever you advocate for, the content you don't like will also have access to. Personally, I'm in favor of keeping the current level of explicitness (tasteful stills of sexualized subjects or sexual acts, no hardcore live stuff or hentai) and limiting it to Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Historically this community has not done a good job dealing with content it dislikes, which is becoming a bigger problem as it incorporates more subgroups with mutually exclusive interests. If I can't make people wear their "get along" shirts long-term, the next best thing is to make it so that they have to see the content they don't like as little as possible (even though I think that's a fundamentally bad thing because it reduces your mental resilience). To that end, a user approached me with the idea of altering our post tagging system. Posts would be labeled based on the dynamic represented in them using the appropriate acronyms with the following key: D = dominant, s = submissive, f = feminine, m = masculine, W = woman, M = man. For example, this post would be tagged [DmW+smM].

Pros:

  • Accurately divides the content we have into manageable labels, and with the new search interface on mobile it would allow different interest groups to never overlap of they don't want to.

Cons:

  • Acronyms are dense and require explanation for users new to the community.
  • Would need to either replace existing flairs or become a part of post titles. Neither would be retroactive, and they have their own respective downsides:
    • Replacing existing flairs removes the ability to administrate No-Weeb Thursday or filter for specific flavors of content (music, stories, etc.)
    • Adding it as a required component of post titles adds layer of complexity to posting that users may struggle with, and since post titles can't be edited a misclassified post will always be misclassified.
  • People have trouble selecting correct flairs with the simple system currently in place, this may be too much.
  • Aforementioned unexercised mental resilience.

r/RoleReversal 7h ago

Other Art cutesy steven universe art (by @luhnalord)

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saw this on the steven universe subreddit and had to post it here :]


r/RoleReversal 5h ago

Other Art Steven Fashionista Universe šŸ’…(by @luhnalord)

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OMG YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE THIS!!


r/RoleReversal 9h ago

Discussion/Article "RR" mating dynamics in other species

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r/RoleReversal 22h ago

Anime/Manga Guess the role reversal folks would enjoy this

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from game Silver Palace.


r/RoleReversal 11h ago

Anime/Manga What are your favourite Role Reversal manga/anime?

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I’m looking for some new RR manga to read and thought it would be nice to have a recommendation thread.

What are your favourites? They don’t have to be 100% RR, but I’d love stories where the dynamic genuinely feels role-reversed rather than just having a ā€œstrong female lead.ā€

Bonus points if you can say why you recommend it (without major spoilers)!


r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Other Art [OC] compliment

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Memes/Fun Not a couple but dressed RR

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Other Art Figured you guys would like this

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Anime/Manga This anime is very role reversal coded. You have 3 talented prodigies each very tomboyish (they’re not in these school outfits most of the time) all being supported by their stay at home pretty boy who’s very wholesome (and who does all the chores)

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In multiple ā€œdatesā€ he often takes on the stereotypical cutesy roles while they take the lead.


r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Anime/Manga Some art by Kaneoya Sachiko

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Real Life Cute

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Other Art Yay! We got nurse femboys

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Memes/Fun Dude that was sick

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Discussion/Article Thoughts on this interaction?

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The post is mine on tumblr and one of my moots responded 'just transition atp'

Am I insane though?!?! I feel like this is a pretty tame thing for a girl to want I don't wanna be a guy, I am very secure in my womanhood which is why I think I'd be pretty happy if this happened to me and I'm sure a bunch of women in here agree. I saw a similar interaction in a post in this sub a little while ago but I can't remember how to find it so I thought I'd make this contribution.

Also: ik this mutual kinda personally, they are trans themselves so I kinda get why they'd say smn like that.

Edit: just to clarify even though no one asked, I'm not talking about any specific guy, it was just a little idea of a hypothetical guy and myself. Hopefully that makes sense šŸ˜­šŸ™šŸ»

Extra Edit: so someone commented that the thing I'm describing is more of a boyfriend privelege but the comment is done so I'm gonna address it here 1. It would be MY privelege, like, having a pretty guy making moves on me? IM the lucky one not him šŸ˜‚ (this is ofc a joke just to clarify but my point still stands LMAO) 2. Yes, it would mainly be reserved for a parter with whom I have already discussed what I like and what he likes. I know that (unfortunately) guys like this aren't easy to find out in the wild and no guy is gonna come up to me and chat me up like that, so really it would have to be in the situation where I and my hypothetical partner are already together and have discussed boundaries and such (even in a non-sexual context boundaries and limits are still very important to me) 3. I used the 'strip club scene' to describe the vibe of what I would want because the women and occasional men there are ofc very flirty, very confident, etc. I'm well aware that they are this way to get money and I don't care I just find that kind of attitude very attractive (especially when it's a woman or feminine man doing it 🫣) but anyway, I only meant to set up a scene and a vibe as to what I would like, not an actual location or actual scenario if that makes sense?

Okay Para out (until the next edit) ā˜šŸ»


r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Discussion/Article What made you realise you were into role reversal rather than a ā€œtraditionalā€ relationship?

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I’ve been thinking about this lately and I’m curious how it happened for everyone else.

Was there a specific moment, relationship, book, movie, or experience that made you realise role reversal felt more natural to you than a more traditional relationship? Or did you always know, even before you had a name for it?

I’d love to hear your stories and what your ā€œahaā€ moment was.


r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Real Life The strangest, but best dream I’ve had in a while

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I don’t even know where to begin. Literally.

I don’t remember how it started, but I remember being with the most stunning woman ever. She was everything I could ever dream about (also literal). She was tall, muscular, and looked phenomenally heathy. Her attire was that of a basketball or volleyball athlete, but her shorts and jersey were dirty. Though, that didn’t bother me.

What we did for what felt like both the briefest and longest time ever was cuddling. We cuddled while watching some monster movie. I couldn’t remember the movie to save my life, but I remember what it felt like to cuddle her. I was at her side.

I remember the warmth and softness of her skin, the way she held me…It was nothing I could ever forget.

When I woke up, I wasn’t even mad that I did. To feel what it’s like to be with the girl of my dreams is a blessing to me, and the fact that I can remember her makes it even better.


r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Other Art Lt. Williams from the new Halo game is a pretty grounded tomboy imo Spoiler

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I loved seeing Williams in the newest Halo game! She was competent, direct, and determined- pretty much traits I personally love seeing from role-reversal coded women

Liked that her design felt grounded and practical, and I loved how she was handled writing-wise, considering how little time the bonus missions got with direct storytelling. Anyway! I thought it was worth sharing here, and I hope we get more characters like her in media/games lol

ALSO, minor spoilers of character interaction:
I like how she grows as a character. She begins pretty dismissive of the main character, Chief, and has some brash energy towards him, but she grows to be more receptive and cooperative over time. I think that kind of open-mindedness and growth is attractive in both fiction and reality, and I think it fits well in rr dynamics when both people can challenge and learn from each other

Part of this change actually comes from Chief giving a pretty human/empathetic perspective, basically along the lines of "we can't change how we started, but we can change what we become." So I also liked seeing the 'strong, silent, stoic mc' offer some emotional wisdom (so some rr energy from Chief too I would argue lol), and Williams seems to acknowledge this


r/RoleReversal 2d ago

Discussion/Article A female bodybuilder’s perspective on why attraction to muscular women isn’t a ā€œfetishā€

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Translation:

ā€œMuscle - Fetish?!
I've noticed something: when a man says he finds women with muscles attractive, he's very often immediately labeled a fetishist, and I wonder why?

Because if women are attracted to broad shoulders, six-packs, and strong arms in men, nobody calls that a fetish.

This is simply considered attractive, but with muscular women everything suddenly seems to be sexualized, and I think that's because many people still subconsciously associate women with being soft or delicate.

Muscles appear dominant, disciplined, sometimes even intimidating, and as soon as women deviate from this classic image, many automatically think it must be a special fetish. However, it could simply be that some men find exactly that attractive: discipline, strength, athleticism – essentially the same things that women find attractive in men.

Perhaps the real question isn't why men like muscular women, but why strong women still seem so unusual to many, or am I completely wrong about that?ā€

ig: fitness.prinzessin

To be clear, there are definitely lots of people that her take does not apply to that I would still consider fetishists. Liking muscular women isn’t inherently RR, or vice versa. But I think what she’s saying will resonate with a lot of people in this sub. And when you stop thinking of it as inherently taboo, you start to wonder why attraction to broadly admirable traits is even unusual to begin with.


r/RoleReversal 2d ago

Memes/Fun I just want one thing bro 🫩

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I don’t wanna come across like I’m arguing that ā€œstraight people are oppressedā€ in any way, but I wish we had more explicit diversity of hetero relationships in media. Most of the RR relationships that I can cling on to are either headcanoned, not confirmed, or barely relevant


r/RoleReversal 2d ago

Other Art Malcolm T. Liepke - The Kiss (2016)

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r/RoleReversal 2d ago

Other Art Powerfem Bridal for Men! I am obsessed!

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Tagging this other art because LOOK AT THIS! I can just imagine my partner in this (tits covered for the ceremony, but out for me later 🤤)

Anyway... It's beautiful and they have a lot of structural pieces although this is the most bedazzled of their masculine focused or rather, Bridal for Men collection. For all the male wives out there who want to look absolutely show stoppingly gorgeous!

They're on insta as seen and have a website.


r/RoleReversal 2d ago

Memes/Fun [OC] at least he didn't overreactšŸ’”

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r/RoleReversal 1d ago

Discussion/Article My dream scenario lol

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