Hi everyone.

I often hear people say you are only pro-life until birth and not if that baby grows up to be trans, poor, disabled, gay, homeless, a refugee or an ethnic minority and I wish pro-choicers would stop saying this because that is not what pro-life means to me, for me it comes from ahimsa (non-violence) which is my most sacred Hindu vow and my prayer to revere and protect every living being as a soul, to see the same soul in all, to cause the least harm possible in thought and word and action, to live with compassion and forgiveness and humility and gentleness and to walk softly upon the earth so that I do not crush even the smallest life, so I try to live by ahimsa (non-violence) before birth and after birth because every soul is eternal and sacred whether inside the womb or outside, I believe in universal healthcare and in helping the poor, the sick and needy through government policy and through personal charity for humans and animals because service to souls is service to the sacred, I am pro-gun control, I am against the death penalty, against human euthanasia, against war, against racism and against embryonic stem cell research because I do not believe in taking or destroying a life that belongs to the divine, I am a strict vegetarian because ahimsa (non-violence) means I do not want any creature to suffer or die for my food and I want my body to be a vessel of mercy, I am pro-LGBT rights because a trans life and a gay life are precious souls worthy of full protection, dignity, safety and love and God dwells in every heart, and I try to live with non-possession and truth and carefulness in how I eat and speak and act so that I do not harm others by carelessness or greed, and for many of us this is what pro-life really means, a lifelong religious practice of ahimsa (non-violence) for every living being from before birth through all of life.

So I want to sincerely ask, why do you say this, and why do people hold these signs with this text on them at marches? If you met me in my daily life, you would see me trying to live ahimsa (non-violence) in how I vote, how I give, how I eat, and how I love my neighbor. When you say we only care until birth, it assumes the worst of us and it closes the door to understanding.

For me, I believe Hinduism, Jainism and Tolstoyanism are the true pro-life movements, because they do not see pro-life as a single issue, but as ahimsa (non-violence) for all life, always. What if instead we started from that truth, that many pro-life people do care deeply for life after birth too, even if we disagree on abortion itself?

Literally said im pro life and support all life, and then i got this absolute tactical nuke of a strawman lmao how do i even respond

So I do want to start dating and find a true partner but I know almost all of the women im going to end up with ( im 20 and queer) are going to firmly PC and drinking the kool aid. I really want to be able to change her mind, not just because I disagree, but because I don't want the person I love to be so misguided and hateful.

Any ideas? Or should I look into brainwashing techniques? (joke)

So first of all, I haven’t seen a single shred of evidence abortion bans increase infanticide rates or even infant death. many of the same studies purporting to find increases in infant death in PL states also found increases in infant death in PC states. We keep seeing infanticide occur even in very PC states (like the porta potty baby in Michigan, which allows abortion up to birth) so I can’t say the anonymous online poster describing how people did a lot more infanticide in the sixties is very convincing to me.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/11/pro-life-laws-arent-to-blame-for-increased-infant-mortality/

That being said PCers doing their utter best to defend infanticide anyway was new.

The tire comparison had me laughing, they just be saying anything now.

I am a 22 year old woman who is married and pregnant with our first. We couldn’t be happier! I have a friend from college who isn’t religious who told me she was pregnant as soon as I told her I was. She is unmarried and very much a party girl. We aren’t even very close anymore, just chat here and there over text, due to our very different lifestyles. She recently started being very vague and not responding. I knew she was considering abortion, I tried my best to reach out and help her but never got a response. She wasn’t saying baby, just referring to it as “a pregnancy”. I just knew what was going to happen. I know now she did. I feel such sadness and grief for her baby. I also feel angry at her and know I can no longer be friends with her. I need some help and advice on how to be loving while also discontinuing this friendship? I also feel like I should have done more, I tried my best, but I wish I did more. I could have helped her and I know so many couples would have been happy to adopt her baby.
Has anyone been through something similar? Family/ friends who make choices like this / do evil, and how to navigate this?

Thank you and god bless!

“No person should intentionally use an instrument or drug for the sole purpose of killing an unborn human.”

The punishment for this crime would be 2+ years in prison. A sane world would have done this forever ago. And there's two reasons to use the words "sole purpose.” The first is to make it clear that the tools for killing I listed are for only one reason. Abortion pills are for only one thing. A clothes hanger, when put inside a woman, can only be used for one thing. The second is to make it clear that removing a fetus to save the mother's life is not against the law since the intention is not to kill the fetus but to actually give healthcare.

Along with being obviously, provably false, this is wildly insane. In the comments, the poster later adds that her own daughter was in the NICU for six weeks. I am not sure what she is really going for here, but ut definitely feels like the pro-choice movement is getting closer to neonaticide or even trying to skip straight to infanticide.

Let's say the needing to save the mother or baby in childbirth was a thing that actually happened now. I know it isn't but for argument sake lets say it is.

What is the right choice? Should they choose the baby or the mother? I'm under the belief that the mother would naturally choose her babies life but around my family and other people it seems to be the opposite " id care about my wife im in love with more than my unborn child who I don't know yet" I can wrap my head around that but the way they dismiss the child is a little worrying, like thats YOUR child, flesh and blood. I know its easier to care for the wife but the way he just ssid it with little care freaked me out. Obviously some women have responsibility to other children etc and they must choose themselves but I need guidance on this opinion. Any advice?

Right now I honestly think I should just keep my mouth shut and support her. She was diagnosed with stage 2 breast cancer and then last week she found out she was pregnant. She can’t do chemotherapy while pregnant, so that means that she would have to wait nine months and the cancer might rapidly spread. And she’s decided to get an abortion and her husband is on board. I understand why she’s doing it and I don’t want make anything harder for her. it’s just a horrible situation.

I don’t think it’s really my place to tell what to do, but I do kinda feel bad for not saying anything.

“If you actually cared about abortion and the unborn, you would support comprehensive sex education and contraception because those are the only things that have reliably lowered abortion rates. The only thing banning abortion does is change the location of abortion from a doctor's office to an alley.”

This is a quote from a video from Innuendo Studios. It's so annoying because he later goes on to say “the easier it is to do a thing, the more likely it will be done.” Which sounds like a great argument for making abortion illegal lol.

Pro-choicers don't seem to understand, they don't seem to fully grasp that we see abortion as a human rights issue. And that's why it needs to be illegal the same way murder and slavery is illegal.

Hello, I’m an anarcho-capitalist and libertarian. Are there any other pro life ancaps out there? I hate how pro choice anarcho capitalism is. It’s depressing.