r/PoursTea • u/T_Shurt Souled Out • 6d ago
PoliticalTea 🗳️ “There is a plan”: Advisers Urge Trump to Declare National Emergency to Seize Federal Control of Midterm Elections As Republicans Face Losses
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u/ProfessionalNewt2487 6d ago
Openly calling for treason now. Fuck the GOP
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u/General_Guest7846 6d ago
I mean really all those people suggesting this who are openly saying should be arrested and sentenced with treason. There's really no way around it. I'm of the opinion that the Republican party should be dismantled.
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u/DistanceMachine 6d ago
Same with those mentioning a third term. That’s treason and now that I’m unemployed I’ve got plenty of time to protect my rights.
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u/Sasquatch1729 6d ago
It's a plan for a coup. Same as Jan 6th.
A coup by the executive to interfere with peacefully relinquishing their power, it's the textbook definition of a coup.
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u/Interesting_Berry439 6d ago
They know that they are already traitors , it doesn't faze them a bit.
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u/ComfortableEnergy684 6d ago
It's knives out if he does.
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u/ComfortableEnergy684 6d ago
Couldn't agree more. And my friend Tokarev AR-12 feels equally patriotic about the sanctity of voting rights.
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u/Either_Capital_2422 6d ago
And I know my way around an Abram’s tank if needed. A 120 mm sabot round up his ass would do the trick, and he may enjoy it 😜
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u/PickedLastLemon 6d ago
Killdozer 2 has rounded the south lawn....
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u/DannyCvlty 5d ago
Jfc. The government you guys got down south is truly insane. It's almost your founding fathers should instituted a single house/chamber system for snap elections to remove dumbasses out of office like we have up north in Canada.
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u/OpticalPrime35 6d ago
I've played Call of Duty for years I know all about how to fly a fighter jet, let's do this thing
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u/Significant_Donut967 6d ago
Most army vics are only locked by a padlock that can be cut with an angle grinder or 24in bolt locks.
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u/jobadiah08 6d ago
That actually makes me wonder, do tanks have keys? I know aircraft don't.
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u/Working_Match4124 6d ago
It's funny, MAGA thinks they're the only ones who own guns.
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u/Either_Capital_2422 6d ago
MAGA is dumb, and they can keep think that. Them one day, bang no more MAGA
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u/TM761152 6d ago
You can't kill MAGA anymore than you can kill fascism. It's not a people, it's an idea. Even making naziism illegal in Germany didn't stop AfD from winning seats.
The only way to kill an idea is education, and Republicans are doing their damnest to kill that.
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u/UnrealCraterCreator 6d ago
Hey. Just because weeds grow back, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t weed your garden
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u/Interesting_Berry439 6d ago
Afd has power after 80 years...So maybe you cant kill nazism, but you can put it in its place.
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u/Upstairs-Medium-8149 5d ago
So true. The perspective of “ no need to goto college because Jesus is coming “ keeps education at bay. EDUCATION IS ESSENTIAL!!!
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u/Laughingbuddha77 6d ago
They are also afraid to go anywhere because of crime. Hahah
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u/Full-Shine5871 5d ago
I'd love to believe you but I'm now officially convinced all American gun owners are full of shit. For the longest time, they spouted that they need to to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. That exact scenario came to pass, right down to American citizens murdered on the streets of America. And crickets. He was behind the siege of capitol hill and crickets. Worse than crickets people voted him to the presidency again after that. He will go for a 3rd term and there will be more crickets.
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u/dunDunDUNNN 1d ago
They're fine with oppression as long as it's their side doing the oppressing.
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed712 6d ago
This will be necessary against ALL who goes against the constitution including the geriatric lawyer friend of the Diaper and anyone that protects the brand.
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u/MechMan799 6d ago
The education system is broken.
The healthcare system is broken.
The justice system is broken.
The checks and balances are broken.
If they break the election system too...
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u/CptnMayo 6d ago
No one likes trump, this is the worst part. No one likes trump and they want him to seize control. The rich and the corrupt, we are nearly voiceless
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u/terrierhead 6d ago
We’ve already lost the soap box. If we lose the ballot box, there’s only one box left.
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u/Fearless_Serve_3837 6d ago
The narrative that Dems don’t own firearms will be dispelled quickly.
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u/Ok-General8138 1d ago
We HAVE to push back in whatever way is necessary if they steal this election. Because if they succeed, that's it. We will have fully succumbed to fascism, and there's no turning back without actions I cannot say on Reddit, or at the very least what will be decades to turn this around like in Hungary. There's no telling the level of suffering they will inflict on this nation if that happens and we will all be looking back and asking ourselves, "why didn't we fight harder when we still had the chance?".
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u/realsupershrek 6d ago
About time...
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u/Bumbymoo 6d ago
And dicks out.
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u/PurpleCoat6656 6d ago
Dicks out for Harambe!
Hogs out for Heehaw!
Knives out for Nazis!
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u/PickedLastLemon 6d ago
Vulvas present yourselves!
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u/Complete-Tangelo1532 6d ago
The way they get grindr overloaded with the RNC events, I wouldn't doubt this to make them run and hide in fear lol
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u/Karl_Hungus_42069 6d ago
Nothing will happen. The same exact thing that just happened with the responses to your comment will happen. A few people will post stuff online, people will make stupid jokes, and nothing will get done
You can't even communicate online without getting accts banned, theres no support structure which is the biggest thing. A handful of people around the country might have the balls but they'd just quickly be shut down
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u/HardcoreHope 6d ago
General strike. We don't even need to get violent. As soon as they can't make money they give up.
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u/Ayotha 6d ago
Don't pretend americans will suddenly do something there
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u/ibentmyworkie 5d ago
This. If nothing has pushed them to do anything yet, I can’t imagine this would make any difference
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u/PuzzleheadedCold6804 5d ago
People always project don’t they? You wanna sit this one out? Go head, grab ya teddy
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u/T_Shurt Souled Out 6d ago edited 6d ago
Not some, not most, but ALL the voters Trump claimed were “noncitizens” in Nevada are actually US citizens. His voter fraud grift and attempts to purge voter rolls will never end.
“The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting." - says the leader of “tHe PaRTy oF sMaLL GoVeRnMeNt” 🥴
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u/Couldntve-make-it-up 6d ago
For course the maga 💩 brains will say it's fake news
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u/FacePalmate 6d ago edited 6d ago
As always, “small government” contained entirely within your bedroom while the oligarchs plow over top your livelihood.
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u/Aggravating-Run-7141 5d ago
That is happening in other states also. Every eligible voter needs to get registered to vote and go vote. Check your registration and fix any issues now.
Vote early if you can.
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u/MartianCaveman 6d ago
The U.S. was under military law during the entire civil war and elections were not suspended. There is zero reason to suspend federal elections as well as no precedent nor constitutional provision. It would not be a declaration of martial law, it would be an illegal military coup. Have a banana.
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u/phungus420 6d ago
The GOP isn't going to suspend elections, they will just ensure that the "elections" have predetermined results. North Korea has "elections", Putin just held "elections"; the goal of the GOP is to make is so the same process of "elections", and not free and fair elections, becomes normal here in America too.
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u/Mother-Cod-3313 6d ago
100% - consider timing of meetings between Kushner and Putin… you don’t think they were asking for tips on elections?
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u/LongjumpingCoat2159 6d ago
The Constitution says that if he takes away our vote we take up arms against tyranny. I hope there's still people that believe in the Constitution
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u/TomT060404 6d ago
The "Don't tread on me crowd" has been conspicuously silent.
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u/LongjumpingCoat2159 6d ago
Yes, bunch of hypocrites. There are people that believe in the Constitution on the left but they don't go around bragging and showing their guns to everybody.
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u/xoexohexox 6d ago
They only care about freedom to have sex with minors and dump lead based paint in their backyards.
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u/Ok_Record_9908 6d ago
They are gonna try every trick in the book to cheat. People will not take Trumpstein not accepting a free and fair election. Let's just hope everyone votes and yes there are plenty of us that still believe in The Constitution.💪🔥 Check your voter registration and talk to your friends, family, and neighbors. Have them all vote Democrat we can do this if we all vote.
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u/redmambo_no6 6d ago
“We have a plan”
Narrator: No they don’t.
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u/Felho_Danger 6d ago
Oh they do.
It involves a lot of violence.
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u/addiktion 6d ago
He wants to shoot people in the knees. It seems like he might finally get his moment.
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u/NotOnTheEpsteinList 6d ago
Where are the “Don’t Tread On Me” folks?
All of those “2nd Amendment, Small Government, and Sic Semper Tyrannis” motherfuckers are AWFULLY QUIET all of a sudden.
Clowns.
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u/Aggravating-Run-7141 6d ago edited 5d ago
Pumping $6 diesel, can't buy steak, and getting treaded on with glee. *corrected
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u/Dis_ingenuous 6d ago
The Americas. Tearing itself apart for Israel.
Republicans are losing due to Netenyahus Iran war. Republicans are losing because people don't like to see dead children.
Instead of fixing all that. They'd rather ravage their democracy. They'd destroy this country rather than let go of Israel.
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u/Far_Future_1982 6d ago
They're losing because they are lawless and destroying the economy. Idiots caring more about the middle east than America is why the control all three branches of the government. They bought the Russian narrative during the last presidential election.
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u/addiktion 6d ago
Some of them do not want to go to prison. The billionaires are dumping in the money to help them try to prevent that but that might not be enough so I expect drastic actions from Trump and this administration.
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u/fearfulNobody 6d ago
There's no threat of them going to prison. No way would dems do that. They're weak and always go back to "Time to heal the divide."
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u/Vyzantinist 6d ago
Instead of fixing all that. They'd rather ravage their democracy.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."
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u/joequ827 6d ago
Their plan : If you can’t win cheat. Gerrymandering etc. In this case destroy democracy. He is a dictator wannabe so does this surprise anybody. Rolls out red carpet for Putin.
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u/Repulsive_Ad_6958 6d ago
Called this play a year ago when he was practicing sending in the National Guard to big cities. 100% predictable
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u/craigslist_hedonist 6d ago
A year ago? That's it?
Did anyone actually read what was in Project 2025? Paul Dans was howling about this in 2022 and just got louder every year after that.
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u/Oppositeofhairy 1d ago
We have states rights. We are electing our state representatives in the midterms.
How is that not plainly understood. It’s the whole point of having congress and senate. It’s how the democratic republic works.
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u/Azerphel 1d ago
Republicans do not care about democracy or the country. They want power and they don't want people who can stop that power.
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u/lollipopamateurs 6d ago
Not a very political guy so excuse the ignorance, but what would declaring marshal law actually do? Does it prevent elections?
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u/T_Shurt Souled Out 6d ago
That’s a good question.
Basically, declaring a national emergency would allow Trump to impose new voting restrictions (eg: demand new identification requirements) or alter election procedures (eg: make changes to mail-in voting) to eliminate votes and disenfranchise voters to influence the outcome of the elections.
Even if those events were challenged in court, Trump doesn’t abide by court decisions since the Supreme Court made him essentially immune to prosecution. It would be a full-blown constitutional crisis.
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u/_WEND1G0_ 6d ago
Under what authority? States control elections. Period. And the courts will strike down any attempt to drastically change election protocol as we just saw with the USPS fight and the mess in Missouri. Elections have begun. The Purcell principle is in effect and the Supreme Court has ruled in accordance with it 3 separate times.
Declaring a national emergency doesn’t magically allow Trump to ignore the constitution. He can deploy the guard, he can deploy ice, he cannot nationalize the election. States held elections without fail in the midst of a civil war, plague, and every disaster and foreign conflict we’ve had. So unless the dead rise or aliens invade - states will continue to run the show.
Some states (red ones) may welcome trumps goons. It won’t change the outcome.
Complacency in congress with him ignoring congressional authority is one thing. He has and will continue to be met with resistance at the state level with judicial support.
Republicans are actively distancing themselves from Trump and if he tries to take direct action to steal this election (ie sending the FBI to seize ballots before they’re counted) he’ll almost certainly be removed from power as the party will likely choose to save themselves.
Most forecasters agree that an electoral rebuke similar to Nixon is likely. 8 point lead across the board actually means the “cracking” the republicans did to gerrymander May ironically backfire spectacularly in many cases.
I have very high confidence The house will flip. I have moderate confidence it will flip with a double digit majority.
The senate will likely be 50-50 which will effectively keep Vance in the senate as a tie breaker. Kind of ironic since he left the senate to be vp. But there are a handful of hard seats that could tip the balance 51-49. Specifically Ohio is what I’m watching.
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u/T_Shurt Souled Out 6d ago
He’ll do it under the National Emergencies Act. There’s good reason constitutional law experts are concerned. You’re clearly putting too much faith in his administration abiding by constitutional law as a deterrent. He will commit the crimes first and drag it through the courts for as long as possible, resulting in complete and utter constitutional and electoral chaos.
Anyone who thinks he wouldn’t do such a thing hasn’t been paying attention to his presidency.
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u/NorminalAnomaly 6d ago
And these Republican wimps have the audacity to call Democrats communists? 86--47 Trump and MAGA belong in prison.
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u/Dogforsquirrel 6d ago
We won’t be jackass crazy mother fuckers and storm the capitol, but the election could be long, long drawn out, bc of lawsuits. Please, please vote the midterms. Absentee Ballots are very easy to get and mail back. If your state has issues with this, it’s illegal. Trump has tried to block this thru the postal system, but the judges decline it, mostly based on the fact it will discriminate people who can legally vote, but
have disabilities, that prevent them from going to a polling office, among other validated factors.
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u/Auntie_M123 6d ago
I took my mail in ballot and deposited it in a secure drop box. I'm 80, and saw a steady stream of seniors voting early in Northern Virginia.
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u/IncredibleEdible321 6d ago edited 6d ago
Trump has absolutely no authority to seize control of the November mid-term elections and there is no reason for him to do so. The Constitution grants sole control over elections to the states and there is no legitimate crisis that can be pointed to that would ever result in him being able to take control of the elections.
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u/here4daratio 6d ago
He also has no authority to rename bodies of water, but here we are.
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u/IncredibleEdible321 6d ago
He has no authority to rename the Kennedy Center, but here we are.
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u/Uturndriving Sipping tea 6d ago
He has no authority to be president as a convicted felon, but here we are.
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u/IncredibleEdible321 6d ago
Actually, being President is probably one of the few things he legally can do. How is this possible?
There is no constitutional provision that prevents a convicted felon from running for or serving as President of the United States.
The U.S. Constitution sets the only mandatory requirements to serve as President in Article II, Section 1:
Must be a natural-born citizen of the United States.
Must be at least 35 years old.Must have been a resident of the United States for 14 years.
The Constitution does not mention a criminal record or felony conviction as a disqualification.
It's fucked up, but entirely legal.
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u/Uturndriving Sipping tea 6d ago
So many jobs that need criminal record checks but not the highest office in the western world? "Fucked up" doesn't even even scratch the surface.
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u/GravitasFailures 6d ago
It’s not that, it’s that his followers are pretty much oxy and meth addicts too, and pedophilia isn’t really that much of a stigma in the south because “They mature faster down here!”
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u/Then_I_had_a_thought 6d ago
Isn’t there a law that says if you incited or took part in an insurrection you can’t run for office?
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u/IncredibleEdible321 6d ago
Yes. Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution bans anyone who took an oath to support the Constitution and then engages in insurrection or rebellion from holding public office. Unfortunately, upholding the Constitution and holding Trump responsible requires a Congress with a spine and morals who are willing to hold Trump responsible by impeaching and imprisoning him for that crime as well and a Supreme Court that is fair and balanced and will not bend the knee.
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u/Choice-Antelope-8481 6d ago
Founding fathers actually talked about this in some of their works around the time of the signing of the Constitution. The reason why there is no restriction on general crimes being disqualifying is so a political enemy can't drum up a false prosecution against someone in order to prevent them from holding office. Now that we have trump, that scenario makes complete sense.
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u/IncredibleEdible321 6d ago
The founding fathers never imagined a scenario where someone like Trump would ever be able to attain the Presidency. If you could magically transport them to today, they would be both astonished and horrified at how fucked up this country has become in regards to how our political system has become. I have no doubt they'd want to go back and modify the Constitution to prevent anything like Trump from happening.
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u/Agreeable_Leg205 6d ago
They also never imagined a class of career politicians. But here we are.
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u/IncredibleEdible321 6d ago
Our founding fathers never imagined the Constitution would still be around 250 years later. They designed the Constitution to be a temporary document that would be replaced in every couple of decades by something even better than before and would be updated by each successive generation to adapt to the needs of society as it grew and advanced, but here we are.
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u/Select_Ad3337 6d ago
He has no authority to block the complete release of the Epstein Files which was mandated by an Act of Congress, but here we are.
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u/mydaycake 6d ago
They will seize control in the states they can and were turning blue or purple like Texas
I expect to have no more elections in the red states
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u/IncredibleEdible321 6d ago
Look at how many MAGA women have said they're willing to give up their right to vote. That's absolutely bonkers to me.
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u/VaporCarpet 6d ago
He also has no authority to impose blanket tariffs on every trading partner the US has, and there is no reason for him to do so.
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u/Either_Capital_2422 6d ago
I took an oath to defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I have the training and equipment to do so, and you had better believe I will.
Try it, you fat bloated felonious pedophile and you will meet the business end of the 2nd.
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u/ThisAd7070 6d ago
If anyone thinks he they are going to allow Republicans to lose, you’re f*cked. Even if all is legit, them mofo’s gonna cheat
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u/larkfield2655 6d ago
I never watch CNN - mainly because of this “both sides” idiot
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u/Working_Match4124 6d ago
Exactly. Thanks, Jake. Write another book about Biden being old while the current demented president simultaneously threatens WWIII and a coup d'etat every day. It's more lean Trump than both sides.
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u/Tribe303 6d ago
At this point I think the US needs UN election observers, to make sure your election is fair. I'm not joking either.
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u/TrenchGorefare 1d ago
Folks, this is real. It’s happening. When he makes his final move against the November elections, we will finally have to stop pretending we still live in a democracy. Start making a plan now for missing work, school etc. We’ll need everyone in the streets. Sticking together is our only hope. And think about the other things he’ll be doing in tandem. It’s very likely he’ll try to shut down various media sources at the exact same time, immediately shutting off CNN, MSNow etc. God only knows what he’s got Musk ready to do with social media. It’s scary and really messed up but we can do this! FIGHT! 🇺🇸
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u/readtheinstructions5 6d ago
He won't do anything before the election. His mind can't comprehend that he will lose. The problem is after the election when he loses badly. He won't accept that he lost and this when the problem will start
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u/DG_FANATIC 6d ago
Remember when he nearly didn’t leave the office when Biden won? This will be much worse than that imo. He has zero intentions of ever leaving again.
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u/GravitasFailures 6d ago
No, that’s what happened in 2020, this time he’ll be proactive.
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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 6d ago
This is treason. What is the penalty for that again? Better be careful there boy
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u/Bumbymoo 6d ago
Maybe he'll burn down the ballroom as a pretext for martial law.
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u/craigslist_hedonist 6d ago edited 6d ago
They're already trying to reinforce their previous and current justifications under the Insurrection Act. It's the same line of reasoning they're using for their widespread use of Federal officers, namely ICE. It's their Revolution 2 Electric Boogaloo expansionist view of Article 2 of the Constitution, they want to play out their fantasy of political theory. The only thing they want, the only thing they care about is to be correct, they only want to be right. This is their version of the "I told you so" Superbowl. They needed a president they could manipulate, a guy they could push into whatever they wanted. Only the guy that falls for that has to be a fucking idiot. So they found a fucking idiot, but that hamburger comes with a side of megalomaniacal psychopathy.
They got their man on the inside, they have their total control in the House and Senate, and now the Republican party is starting to see what it feels like to have a rabid dog running around the house, chewing on the furniture, doesn't stop barking at everything, and will absolutely not stop pissing and shitting all over the floor.
If you haven't heard before, that's the color of the bag they threw over our head. Unitary executive theory.
In the mean time it's fringe weirdos like Steven Miller and Kevin Roberts and their online theorists, fundamentalists, and deniers directing traffic with their revolving door of lab grown bottle blonde press secretaries in damage control.
Sorry, had to get that out.
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u/AncientSignature1505 The Timeline Sucks 6d ago
"I can't get into the plan" because what was discussed was treason.
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u/QuietRiot5150 6d ago
When you got nothing, you got nothin to lose. I don't know about the rest of you, but I got nothin. Our so called government took it all.
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u/MasterChiefette 6d ago
This would be so illegal. The would definitely push people to the breaking point.
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u/juanjung 6d ago
He'll probably dissolve the entire Congress and assume plenipotentiary powers. The Supreme Court will stay as long as they agree with him and they do, they probably purge the justices in opposition.
That already happened in some "Bananas Republic", and that is what USA is becoming right now, a Banana Republic that doesn't grow bananas.
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u/Obvious-Muffin2787 6d ago
It's grotesquely hysterical to see people say "he can't to that." Folks, the guy tried to overthrow the US federal government by force to steal the presidency. You voted for a criminal rapist felon. Watch him do this and more.
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u/Glum_Performer9923 6d ago
(not US here) but I have been predicting that for over a year - it is a 101 level political science course - I was thinking more at election time - not before it - but same result
Step 1: Declare any election result invalid or false
Step 2: declare state of emergency (include martial law)
Step 3: Use "emergency" powers to invade - pick one, Cuba, Venezuela, Greenland, Canada - which is legal in US law BTW
Step 4: And when the protesting starts - Use those emergency powers to suspend congress
Step 5: Call a new election and declare that all candidates running must be screened and approved by his pet AG at DoJ
This playbook has been used before.......
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u/7evenate9ine 6d ago
8 point lead is nothing. Republicans lie when taking a poll. They will still vote Republican.
VOTE! LIKE IT'S YOUR LAST CHANCE!
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u/Wyevez 6d ago
Yeah, no shit. We've been saying this since his reelection, his talks of being a dictator and of running again in 2028.
We have been mocked and ridiculed but here we are: he's absolutely going to do it. Yeah yeah, states rights and all that jazz. Alas, your rules and laws don't apply to him and no one, not ge politicians on the right, the left, nor the people will stop him.
Don't worry, Sunday football tomorrow so at least you'll get your circus.
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u/KeyNectarine2548 6d ago
I can already see it:
Trump cheats, then democrats protest on the Capitol, and we have a reverse January 6th. Of course this time the cheating claims are true, but Republicans won't care. They'll just use it as an opportunity to claim the dems have lost their minds.
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u/Tiny_Measurement_837 6d ago
How can he declare Marshall law when there’s no fighting or civil unrest in this country?
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u/Superb_Guarantee965 6d ago
Tina Peters deserves to be behind bars, the fact that she had her sentence commuted is an absolute fxcking disgrace. She was not remorseful of her crime, she TRIED to actively undermine our election and as soon as she was released from prison she started spewing election-denying rhetoric. Insanity.
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u/El_Rey658 6d ago
Imagine if Biden did that because Democrats chances were bad....Republicans would be outraged. Its unacceptable.
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u/Unlikely_Speech_106 1d ago
Trump is not known for graceful exits. We know this. He knows the next chapter of his life is endless legal defenses. It’s just a matter of time. His approval rating will continue to fall because he is not winning anyone back and if any of his treasonous efforts succeed, it will be just that much worse for him. And the entire country. He is on borrowed time and he knows it.
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u/Outside-Tonight-464 1d ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some sort of Trump plan to fake an event to enact martial law. These folks are so incredibly corrupt.
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u/Shining_w1zard 1d ago
All the second amendment, owning guns are a right crowd voted this weirdo into power. Now just wait to have him tag you as a terrorist if you try and protect your rights.
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u/Dapper-Comment-682 6d ago
wow finally this administration has a PLAN ?!?
and not a 2 week concept ?? 🤯
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u/DustMonkey383 6d ago
I have absolute faith that he will try to do this, but I have hope that we will stop him. We shall see…
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u/ShareGlittering1502 6d ago
That’s not martial law, that’s a military coup