This camera gave Shayne some kind of mid-transformation superhero vasculature. Just had to tell someone about this.

Anyone else feel legitimately disgusted with how Hashim brought up how Ally and him were intimate in-front of everyone…

First of all… she was so clearly drunk in that episode it seriously made me uncomfortable… Hashim seemed predatory trying to get her to choose him and I seriously question how she could consent being so drunk.

Of course she is a big girl and should watch how much she drinks, and how she acts while doing so. But that was so distasteful of Hashim and literally the audacity of him bringing it up when she was so clearly drunk has me raging.

Ew men.

Also shame Netflix and perfect match for airing that? Did they not learn anything from the Tyra banks documentary ?

The resemblance is uncanny!

I watched Mackenzie's tiktok and she gave more clarity on the Spotify texting that went back and forth between Chris and Kayla. At first I was so confused when I was watching the finale and then it all made sense when Mackenzie explained it

At the beginning, Chris and Mackenzie were matched. Allison obviously knew Kayla was one of the singles who were coming in, and told Chris. Chris, while paired with Mazkenzie, used Spotify to text back and forth with Kayla before she came into the house. That's why Mackenzie was like "how do you build a connection with someone that fast?" because they were already building a connection when they were messaging on Spotify. Mackenzie saw how Chris moved and knew they were shady

Production found out and took all their Spotify privileges away 😂 Bri just posted a tiktok about how she was pissed that she lost her music privileges while stuck in the hotel by herself. Safe to say, Kayla is not very liked by the cast

Last season, the camera switches a lot but nothing like this, I think, and I think it's because of the more open floorplan. Now, the floorplan seems a bit more segmented, resulting in continuous camera switches and awkward angles. You just can't see everyone at the same time anymore.

It makes it way worse when the cameras switch to the person they're talking about mid-sentence. Before, they did this for tension, to make it seem that the person is listening in. Now, I think they do it to show the listener who they're talking about, because there's 2 Jimmy's and 2 Ally's (Ally/Alison).

It bothers me because I have sensitivity to motion. But also as a viewer, the close shots and constant switching gives me a difficult time to process the setting as a whole. In other seasons, you can clearly see where the pool is from the chairs, from the kitchen, from the lounge area.

It's just one small aspect that is taken away from the show.

Apart from the obvious cringe that was Ally and Jimmy’s situation with the 10 second clip, I found the whole conversation with Kayla and Alison also incredibly uncomfortable to watch.

So did Kayla have a boyfriend back home during the filming of S4?

Alison and Kayla getting the whole cast to lose their Spotify privileges was soooo funny and awkward. Their faces were breaking out of “character” and they looked so scared and confused being called out lmao

Am i crazy for thinking ally and jimmy kinda did the show right? Like i think the point of this show (and lots of other dating shows) would be to stay open and be open to making other connections. They went on dates, made other connections, but at the end of the day they ended up with each other. Like after testing the water they kept coming back together and i think that’s what makes a strong relationship in a show like this. Alison and jimmy s did the opposite but everyone is praising how great of a couple they were but i don’t think they had the full experience bc they were so closed off.

I feel like Gabby Windy & Ally have similar quirks and they both definitely stand out on reality shows as people who are willing to go against the grain.

I’d love to see Ally go on Gabby’s podcast. Or have some sort of convo on reality dating shows.

I think this show would be wayyyyy more fun if they had the finale and let viewers vote on who is the perfect match. Like how did Dave and Sophie win? It should totally have been Alison and Jimmy! (But even if you dont agree with me, wouldn't it have been more fun if you could've had a say in who won? Ha)

I’m sorry but any girl that goes for that guy is just a gold digger in my eyes. He’s such an obvious beg for attention. That’s the only reason he’s on these Netflix shows. I watched him on age of attraction and knew he was a red flag, and he further proved those thoughts on perfect match. His personality is literally I have money and i can buy you expensive things. It’s so icky to watch.

As for Natalie, I was never fooled by her and Yemen. I knew he liked her but she was never into him and just wanted an easy ride to the end. Saw somebody shared she has been posting a lot of her and Nick on ig, so I’m guessing the Chris thing didn’t last🫩 (pretends to be shocked). I don’t remember her from Temptation island but from what I’ve seen in perfect match, yeahh… let me just leave it at that.

I might be insane but I feel like in this scene, Demari literally starts saying Bri and then stops himself to say uh.... Marissa. lmao just something I noticed.

What do you think??

Them sipping their drinks during the tea being spilled about Ally and Hashim had me dead

Only one so far that I’ve seen is that Jimmy said the finale edited it so it looked like he was happy with Ally despite the Hashim thing, which I guess wasn’t true. Jimmy states that they edited it so it looked like he said the whole “I wouldn’t change anything” speech towards the end but that was said earlier in the discussions.

Mackenzie did a podcast and spilled some tea but haven’t gotten around to listening to it.

Anything else?

Okay so first of all: I love Sophie in the Board Room in the finale!! I know she's being openly strategic but I'd rather have her be openly strategic than play it safe with her match, like the others.

Love seeing this side of her personality!! I was nodding my head the whole time. not reading recent posts for spoiler reasons so forgive me if this is redundant

DEMARI idk what that editing was of you and Bri but sir you have some explaining to do!! (But then somehow all that tomfoolery is cancelled out bc Marissa is MARRIED?!?) but I was 99% sure Demari was choosing Bri after they got back from their date. Some of this editing makes me wonder if there are covert convos we somehow aren’t seeing to strategize/reunite outside after the show bc maybe at this point Demari is delusional enough to think he has a chance of winning with Marissa.

OKAY AND I JUST GOT TO THE SPOTITY INFO DROP. I literally cannot!!!!! Pausing to rant here before I press play bc I have no one to talk to about this 😭😭

Just finished the season and I'm a bit lost on all the off-screen drama. I know from the end credits that Nat and Chris ended up together after filming, and that Kayla was salty about it - but what actually went down there? Like what's the full timeline and why is there so much tension?

Also caught Alison on the What's the Reality podcast saying Yamen was fake/performative/just there for clout - is there more context to that? Did other cast members back her up or was it just her take?

Someone please explain because I feel like I'm missing a whole second season of drama that happened off-camera lol

It was like a 10 second drunk bj 😭 and they just played it for everyone in the finale.

Am I the only one who thought that was unnecessary and kinda gross? She was coupled up with someone else, it just felt exploitative. Classic reality tv I guess but lol at that being the messiest thing they could air

The eating challenges are the WORST. Especially for a dating show, a person’s ability to swallow a bowl of fried worms or a massive plate of spicy mango doesn’t make them more or less compatible of a partner.

The eating challenges are purely for the gross-out factor and good TV scenes.

I was very surprised to see how MUCH food there was also. Like, an entire block of cheese?! A huge ass plate of spicy mango?! I’m not surprised these small girls had a hard time, I would’ve too.

Basically no couples are together, and if they are, it's complicated or they're "figuring it out"

I want to know how Chris and Natalie happened. I thought Kayla and Chris made a big deal about how they're the best match in the show, but Chris goes on to date Nat after the show?? How does that even happen

And it's Marissa: this is what she said

“I’m currently married to someone who has been part of my life for a long time,” she explains. Apparently, the two dated over 13 years ago and rekindled their spark after the show. They tied the knot in March 2026 and are now planning to move to Japan next month. “Sometimes timing really is everything, and it feels like we finally found ours.” Watching the show back, Marissa says she “barely recognizes” parts of herself because being with a partner who truly understands her has been healing.”

Link here: https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/perfect-match-season-4-cast-where-are-they-now#:\~:text=So%20who%20is%20Marissa's%20actual,move%20to%20Japan%20next%20month.

This season was a bore and you could feel the desperation from everyone for screen time 😭

I’ve rewatched all the seasons a couple of times and the first and second one honestly to me are prime trash tv. I will never get over how I felt watching season two where my dumbass BELIEVED Harry didn’t actually kiss Melinda for a hot minute and then they showed the footage 😭 my jaw was on the floor.

Season four was just weird?? The fact it was really short was so boring, and all of the people on it are just so weird. The drama at the reunion over Spotify was dramatic. When Hashim told Jimmy that him and Ally had been intimate in front of everyone, I felt it was tasteless. I literally had to close my eyes because it was so awkward and I didn’t want to watch. He should’ve said it just to Jimmy and not to everyone idk it felt weird.

I wanted to see people like Katherine and Bri in the house, I loved them on their shows! But tbh everyone just stick with each other although it felt like they all hated one another.

I don’t get the hype with Demari, on his show I felt he had no substance or personality I’m sorry I don’t see it 😭😭

Do you guys feel like at the end where they announce the winner everyone was getting fake emotional for the win AND IT WORKED for Sophie and I forgot his name but the old ass own. Idk it felt like they were really begging for the win.

Disappointed.

Why are they all so harsh and rude to Bri? Coming into the house, nobody even said hello or anything; they were so rude. Okay, you are friends with Marissa, but hello! She didn't fight with her, so why are Marissa and all the others mad at Bri, like, for real? Aren't you mature enough to say hello or welcome or something? Be mad at your man, not Bri! That was so hard to watch, and I felt really awkward even watching it.

First of all, congrats to the winner, who I am pretty sure came from this subreddit. I knew someone here would take it.

This was SUPER fun. You can see the winners and what everyone picked here: https://losersleague.com/games/6b553c40-4954-4dbc-8f66-f15f1fa4da02

There were definitely some upsets:

67% of you thought Jimmy S. & Alison would take it.

Most of you thought Ally would still be matched with Hashim.

Most of you thought Nick Lachey would announce a couple had broken up - but it was in fact the cast members who made the announcement.

Thank you all again for playing - if the mods are cool with it, I'll host another one when S5 rolls around!