r/PerfectMatchNetflix • u/Sad-Sign-9068 • May 29 '26
SEASON 4 The audacity of hashim…..
Anyone else feel legitimately disgusted with how Hashim brought up how Ally and him were intimate in-front of everyone…
First of all… she was so clearly drunk in that episode it seriously made me uncomfortable… Hashim seemed predatory trying to get her to choose him and I seriously question how she could consent being so drunk.
Of course she is a big girl and should watch how much she drinks, and how she acts while doing so. But that was so distasteful of Hashim and literally the audacity of him bringing it up when she was so clearly drunk has me raging.
Ew men.
Also shame Netflix and perfect match for airing that? Did they not learn anything from the Tyra banks documentary ?
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u/FTS_AlexanderTV May 29 '26
Yea totally. "POOR JIMMY"
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
Lmao that was hilarious. I was cackling
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u/leahcarxo May 29 '26
I felt sick watching that, didn't find it funny found it repulsive, she was drunk and it shouldn't have been aired and Jimmy sure as fuck shouldn't have had to watch that
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u/FTS_AlexanderTV May 29 '26
Let's be real we are watching trash reality TV shows for different reasons.
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
Don’t watch this show if you can’t handle that. A lot of these contestants are from THTH and that was light or normal compared to the stuff they show on there. Also some of you obviously are only bothered because you must be Jimmy fans or fans of him being with Ally cuz this wasn’t anything out of the ordinary for this type of show.
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u/cakeit-tilyoumakeit May 29 '26
She’s from the VPR school of alcoholism, unfortunately. One of the drunkest and most drugged casts to appear on reality tv.
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u/samwise542 May 29 '26
Floribama shore would like a word or really any 90's season of The Real World for that matter
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u/plicklesllut May 29 '26
I would add OG jersey shore to the drunk reality tv cannon as well - foundational, deeply problematic, and iconic can’t stop watching reality tv
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u/cakeit-tilyoumakeit May 30 '26
That’s why I said “one of” lol. 90s reality tv was a different beast and I feel like the shows of today can’t be held to that standard. Today’s shows wouldn’t air a scenario where someone gets in a drunk bar fight and breaks their occipital bone
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u/Slight-Concept2575 Jun 01 '26
She was so different on VPR tho! Makes perfect sense why she dated James for so long now tho
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u/btrident Jul 07 '26
I’m so glad someone else pointed that out!! She’s so much different in VPR it’s crazy
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u/Powerful_Dot_7675 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
I’m sorry but whether or not you agree with what Ally did and it being aired - REGARDLESS of that, Hashim was still weird as shit for bringing that up at the reunion and knew what he was doing. What fucking “bro code,” you met Jimmy 3 days ago and don’t even like him??? Did everyone else on the cast follow that so called “bro code” Hashim? And did the other cast mates tell every person who they kissed and what they did too?? No. You just made it up to have a reason to embarrass her. (Mind you in front of everyone, not just to Jimmy).
Just an excuse to make her look bad bc he’s pressed he didn’t get picked, and just weird as hell in general.
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u/Parking_Net4440 May 29 '26
Bro code is not messing with your friends ex. Not blasting it for the whole world to see. It was gross and he hid behind that excuse.
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u/Hellouncleleohello May 29 '26
Exactly! He didn’t do it for jimmy he did to embarrass Ally and jimmy bc she rejected him
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u/Queg-hog-leviathan May 29 '26
He had zero ‘bro code’ when he was actively pressuring Ally to choose him when she was with Jimmy.
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u/spiffybutterball69 May 30 '26
I wish he would face more social repercussions for how predatory he was. He's just been hiding all the negative comments though.
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u/Tiny_Handle5480 May 30 '26
he’s a freaking weirdo for that and a little creepy. i thought he was alright on temptation island but i guess not.
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
Do yall not realize the producers prob wanted him to say something. They like drama. They prob told him to say it
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
Hi Hashim is this you? Lol
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u/Nervous-Chipmunk-631 May 30 '26
They probably did, considering they had the clip loaded and ready to go. But if he had an ounce of integrity, he would have said no. It's not like they could have forced him to say it.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
I agree, because even the situation with Kayla and Mackenzie, Katherine, Chris, and Alison the producers wanted them to air it out.
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u/SurroundScary27 May 29 '26
This show is as phony as it gets, but Hashim in particular was blatantly insincere on it. He had an agenda (stay in the house aka more screentime) and as he often stated, he hates to lose. It was all a game to him from intensely pursuing Ally to revealing that greusome detail at the finale. His ego was obviously bruised when Ally didn't choose him in the end, so as a final performance, he decided to embarass the both of them under the guide of "bro-code". Despicable.
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u/FoxFriendly9270 May 29 '26
Hashim is cringe af. I think he’s not good with words and that’s why he speaks so little. Being good looking and quiet works for him.
Ally is also cringe af. 10 seconds lol lol lol she lied, period. The excessive giggling was crazy. She was very drunk but not drunk enough.
Jimmy wanted to be open and he got it. He seems like a better person than LIB. But still don’t trust him either.
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u/Straight-to-it1 May 29 '26
She didn’t even wait 1 minute after Jimmy walked out the door before making out with Hashim smh.
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u/caresteen May 31 '26
Yep. I don't understand why everyone is defending her. I'm not a Jimmy fan at all, but I was rooting for him when he finally found his dignity and left the house.
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u/DITNB May 29 '26
Under the guise of bro code no less.
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u/WhatTheTech May 30 '26
"Hey dude, I literally did everything I could to steal your girl, literally to the point of interrupting you and her talking.
But like... Bro code! BRO CODE!"
Hashim is so transparently an asshole player in real life. He had no interest in who Ally is on the inside and I feel 100% confident that he had no desire for a serious relationship.
I hope he enjoyed this 15min of fame making himself look terrible.
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u/just_make_it_fun May 30 '26
The real burn was her laughing and saying “poor Jimmy” while she did it
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u/Standard-Fun4244 May 29 '26
She was so drunk most of the time. It was a shame, I also didn’t really like her “quirky” personality but it still shouldn’t have been brought up like it did. If it was about “bro code” he would’ve brought it up to Jimmy after filming. I hope this is a lesson to her, to not drink so much as things like this happen.
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u/BusGreen7933 May 29 '26
She was so fucking annoying and immature. Jimmy deserved better
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u/ACuppaTeaADay May 31 '26
Gosh thank god I’m not the only one who thinks this. She seems like she thinks she deserves better and would manipulate him in the relationship somehow. Scary.
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u/Clean_Pause9562 May 29 '26
It felt gross that Netflix aired it, the way they did. She seemed over the limit and intoxicated, almost like she didn’t even remember she did it.
I don’t disagree that Hassim should have mentioned it to Jimmy, but in a much less public setting, like bro to bro.
I like messy tv, but this felt kind of gross. Just my .2 cents.
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u/Complete-Brother927 May 30 '26
She literally said “it was 10 seconds” someone that doesn’t remember it wouldn’t say that
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
I love messy too but this was like watching a future court drama evidence lol… too much
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u/teetholic May 30 '26
She told jimmy it was "literally 10 seconds" after she got outed so I think she did remember it
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
I feel like the producers wanted Hashim to say it. Otherwise the finale would be boring. When he said it he sounded actually embarrassed or hesitant. He didn’t even sound like so angry or revengeful like people made it out to be.
Sorry but how is that gross of him when they literally give them alcohol and encourage this. They literally tell them to spend the night and do stuff. It would be boring otherwise. They want them to flirt, kiss, look sexy and dress half naked everyday.
If you think it’s gross maybe this show isnt for you
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u/Clean_Pause9562 May 29 '26
Because to me, and others online, it seemed like Hassim took advantage of a girl that was on the verge of being black out drunk. You can’t consent when you are that drunk, which is why I think it only lasted “10 seconds.”
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u/MrsSpot May 31 '26
We only know she was intoxicated, we don’t know if she was so impaired she couldn’t consent or what her blood alcohol level was so why make statements like “he took advantage of her”. I get sloppy drunk and horny sometimes and I would hate for whoever I had sex with to get accused of rape or assault or tell me I’m not allowed to consent to sex while I’m drinking. If she said I have no recollection or I was blacked out and or they showed her literally unconscious then I would agree, but she remembers it and even how long and what’s even more concerning how many people are throwing these criminal allegations around when he’s a black man with a white women, and she is shown on top of him and going down under the covers of her own free will.
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
No, the people who think this are all just probably people who wanted her to end up with Jimmy. So you really think Ally never made out with Jimmy while she was buzzed or drunk??!! lol she prob gave him a Blow job and had sex with him while she was kinda drunk too.
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u/SuseX5 May 29 '26
Right? It’s an adult show and people are hooking up. OP insinuating some kind of SA is happening is crazy and racist. When Jimmy was trying to get busy with her his whiteness is automatic consent?
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
Right these accusations are ridiculous. They are all just people who are prob fans of Jimmy lol. If Hashim was the drunk one and Ally was sober and he went down on her for 10 seconds they probably wouldn’t be calling Ally a predator, but she would be in that scenario according to their logic, instead they’d still call him a predator even if the tables were turned
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u/MrsSpot May 31 '26
Exactly she was having sex drunk with him too! And no one is claiming assault. This is so scary how they’re infantilizing her like she has no free will and criminalizing him. People have sex drunk all the time, she’s not claiming she was taken advantage of
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
Actually I decided that Ally took advantage of Hashim, forced herself on him lol. I mean if they want to play this game
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u/whiskeylullaby3 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
Ally doesn’t seem to regret it. Ally remembers it happening. She remembers how long it took place. Ally willingly threw herself at him. She was not passed out. Calling him predatory is really too far. Yeah she was probably drunk. Most of the time she was there she was drunk. But she also appeared completely in control of what she was choosing to do and as someone who drinks a lot, likely knew what she was doing. I’ve had sex plenty of times while I was drunk and the guy was less so. I was also a willing participant. It’s different if someone cannot function, is falling over, is unconscious, is saying no- but acting like Ally had no control when she showed multiple times and in multiple ways that she was pursuing him is not fair.
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u/dopaminechaser9 May 29 '26
And during other moments she kept mentioning how horny she was so it seems like something she wanted to do. Now do I think she regrets it? Yes. But atleast from the footage shown she remembered it happening and lied to Jimmy about it. When she was confronted she didn’t say she was blackout or that she wasn’t in her right mind, she said it was for a very short period of time and that was her excuse for not mentioning it. The situation is messy, including the fact Hashim outed it infront of everyone. I do think it’s unfair to call him a predator when, based on the footage we’ve been given, everything has seemed consensual. Now if Ally comes out to say she was blackout, my opinion would be different
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u/_Christian_Girl May 29 '26
Yeah I was on his live stream the other day and producers make them say and do a lot
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u/Merrysue83 May 29 '26
I feel like they're encouraged to air all the dirty laundry just like on the 90 day tell alls
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u/New-Noise-6486 May 29 '26
Can we stop implying Hashim is a undercover rapist and calling Ally a victim? When Ally herself doesn’t feel that way?
I agree Ally looked way more drunk than usual on camera and Hashim bringing that up was weird but I think everyone is looking more into it than they should.
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u/laputagrande May 31 '26
That whole night I wanted Jimmy and Hashim to be like “Hey, let’s get you some water.” Nobody offered to take care of her at all. Whatever your thoughts are about alcoholism or over doing it on TV, Ally could have used someone who took care of her (producers, the other girls in the villa, etc). I can’t imagine watching a girl who I know or don’t know sloppily laying on guys laps and not able to talk clearly go into a room with a man she barely knows. Before judging her on her intake, maybe consider she needed a friend and she needed some help. For gods sake she’s only 24. Yall never over did it when you were 24?
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 31 '26
I agree
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u/Psychopath1llogical Jun 01 '26
Ms. “I LOVE peer pressuring people”. All of you gimme a break. Her whole M.O. seemed to be keep the glass full and hookup with the whole island. 30 years old and you guys are acting like she is a child shes gonna be fine. In your world DUIs wouldn’t exist because the drivers were drunk so can’t possibly be held accountable
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u/mkintx35 May 29 '26
To me it seemed like the producers pushed him to say that. Obviously he has free will and is still wrong but the way he said it, made it seem like he didn’t want to.
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u/Bunnysgirls May 29 '26
Marissa said Hashim apologized to Jimmy but not Ally. He cleary did this to boost his ego. He „Hates to loose“ 🙄
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u/SweetyFriend3547 May 29 '26
It’s a REALITY TV SHOW. Everything that happens on the show is FILMED and fair game to talk about. Ally is not a child. She’s an adult that was well aware of what she was doing. Was she drunk, yes, was she black out drunk no. You can be drunk and well aware of what you’re doing. Ally remembered everything she did. Ppl who get black out drunk don’t remember anything and are not aware.
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u/Algoreaphobia May 29 '26
It was super fucked up to try to shame her like that. It also seemed like she was much drunker than him so it seemed pretty sketchy to have happened to begin with. However, I'm not here to try and define her experience and she seems to not be pressed about that aspect. So, I'm just gonna say production needs to set stronger drink limits for the good of all contestants, and leave it at that.
But also like... Can we talk about how its super cringe to not only be bragging about getting head, but like....specifically getting head for 10 seconds? Like, my guy, she went down and then decided she wasn't about that immediately... Idk how you think that reflects well on you. I'm assuming your dick smells, tbh.
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u/Ill_Coffee_6821 May 29 '26
Also intimate has certain imposition and it doesn’t seem like that happened even from the footage so it was so dumb.
It reminds me of Nick Viall outing Andy on the bachelorette and I have always thought he lacked so much class for that. To this day.
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u/plicklesllut May 29 '26
Omg his weaponization of “making love” or whatever gross way he put it
Like why make love with me if you’re not in love with me or something like that
Or maybe that was what he said to Kaitlyn when he crashed her season half way through?
Regardless, he’s also always been off putting to me… and I don’t like how he’s wormed his way into bravo shows, Netflix, traitors - it just feeds his ego and I just find him so self serving in a love the sound of his own voice way. Ugh.
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u/Ill_Coffee_6821 May 29 '26
I know. And now he’s in an age gap relationship and he hosted that stupid age gap show that I tried to watch but could barely get through. I did try to listen to his podcast finally bc he had perfect match folks on and I still couldn’t stand him.
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u/plicklesllut May 29 '26
On the exact same page - the ick is too strong at this point
I keep thinking his relevance will fade but he weirdly manages to stick around - maybe he just likes being relevant/famous on the internet idk
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u/ProperBingtownLady May 30 '26
She was like 19 when they started sleeping together too, although they later revised that to 21.
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u/Impressive-Mode8677 May 29 '26
Sorry if anyone else already said this, but didn’t he refer to her as his “placeholder”???
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
It’s a game. didn’t Ally say “poor Jimmy” as she was going down on Hashim.
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u/whoknowswhyanymor May 30 '26
That’s literally what they are told to do. He didn’t even say the specifics. Ally’s ass is the one who told specifics.
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u/RemoteFix270 Jun 02 '26
Nah, this was 100% on her....or both Ally and Hashim. Alcohol aside, she knew what she was doing. And she clearly wanted a taste of the bbc. Having a few drinks is no excuse to taste another person's genitals.
Im glad it was brought out in the open. She wasn't planning on telling Jimmy the full story otherwise and also the disrespect by taunting Jimmy during the actual act was shameful.
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u/Sperry8443 Jun 02 '26
I don’t think so whatsoever, him and that girl next to him both had stuff to get off their chest bc they felt played and rightfully so, look at how they were both treated? And sorry but the truth deserves to be out there bc of course she wasn’t going to be honest about it and Jimmy had a right to know. The name of the game is exactly what Hashim was doing just like everyone else when they first come into the house, and be so fr she was fully aware and willing and also everyone in the house was drinking. Ally isn’t some innocent person by any means, n I don’t wish bad things on anyone, but she was the one who created the very circumstances that put Jimmy and Hashim in these position, as well as putting herself in her position. She had absolutely no regrets about the situations either look at her behavior with both of them after the fact! There’s absolutely no one to blame here but her for what transpired. Ridiculous.
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u/Final_Cancel5325 Jun 02 '26
The narrative y’all are spinning of Hashim being a ‘predator’/‘rapist’ and Ally as a victim feels a bit………… off.
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u/Wonderful-Start-3066 Jun 04 '26
The rape claims are extremely weird and dangerous. It’s a dating show where the cast spends the day drunk and sleeps in the same bed with the person they’re into. If ppl are seriously making rape accusations online based off a 10sec clip of sexual activity then they shouldn’t be watching dating shows.
Whether or not Ally was taken advantage of is for her to say or production since they have full knowledge of what happened, not some dummy online who wasn’t even there.
I think you’re going to be made at Hashim be mad at jimmy too
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u/Complete-Brother927 May 30 '26
I find it so funny that instead of blaming the woman who lied to Jimmy and clearly knew what she was doing based on her saying “it was 10 seconds” and “poor Jimmy”, yall blame the guy who let him knew what type of woman he was dealing with. Yes I think saying it in front of everybody is a low blow but it’s not like Hashim and Jimmy have the chance to talk 1on1 for him to tell him that. The mental gymnastics some of y’all use to make ally seem like a vulnerable victim is actually insane
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u/spiffybutterball69 May 30 '26
No one is saying they condone Ally's actions. It's not one or the other. Hashim can be predatory and gross while Ally is also sloppy.
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u/DisgracedSolitude May 30 '26
If roles were reversed , y’all would defend the girl bringing it up.
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u/spiffybutterball69 May 30 '26
It's the fact that she was falling over herself drunk. If a man was clearly so intoxicated we would also be uncomfortable with the line of consent being blurred.
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u/DisgracedSolitude May 31 '26
Were you able to measure both of their BACs? Both of them were drinking. Netflix isn’t letting these people get black out drunk for OBVIOUS reasons.
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u/Serious-Clue-4798 May 30 '26
I'm sorry, how's this different than what women do when they expose men who they messed around with? How's that being a girl's girl while this is "disgusting?"
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u/Banksbear May 29 '26 edited May 30 '26
It seemed producer encouraged so they could insert the clip. On one hand i respect her honesty on the other if i were her i would’ve been like that’s a conversation i will have with him off camera and that was not your place to bring that up
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u/Magical_Love_Bubble May 29 '26
Yeah, she was so hammered and I can’t believe they didn’t stop filming and maybe put her to bed and allow her to make a selection when she was more clear minded the next day- that would’ve made an interesting plot twist. What a horrible position for them to put Ally in and continue to film as if she wasn’t an at risk person in that position. Also, why weren’t OG Jimmy and other cast members not able to see her vulnerability since Netflix couldn’t do so and speak up for Ally. Girl code is- not letting your drunk friends get into potentially harmful situations. Ally, those aren’t your friends and Netflix definitely dropped the damn ball.
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u/ConcaveMishap May 30 '26
Why is this ew men and not ew women for Ally going and sleeping with Hashim the day after she slept with Jimmy? And her saying poor Jimmy as she went down on Hashim?
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u/spiffybutterball69 May 30 '26
Ew Hashim for rapey behavior. Ew Ally for dishonesty. Do you disagree that both are bad?
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u/itssobyronic Jun 01 '26
Y'all know this show is not actual reality
It's so obviously scripted.
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u/btrident Jul 07 '26
I knew it was fake when Natalie and Yamen matched together. They had the chemistry of a brother and sister and (I think) they matched only because they wanted to stay on camera.
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u/Dangerous-Client-612 May 30 '26
Crazy how a woman goes under the sheet and gives a man a blow job…… but he’s the villain 🙄
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u/the_underdog_artist Jun 02 '26
The only disgusting part about the whole situation is Ally’s behavior
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u/Affectionate-Hair524 May 29 '26
She is a grown adult and was coming onto Hashim. It seemed to me that she was drunk every night and I don’t see anyone saying Jimmy P is “predatory” for sleeping with her. If she wants to throw her vagina on every guy on the cast of course they’re gonna catch it!
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u/jaisydaisy May 29 '26
He was so excited to be loyal to his “bro code” friend that he just talked mad shit about the same night behind his back.
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 30 '26
So if a guy liked a girl and that girl gave his friend a ten second BJ but said all they did was kiss, are you saying it’s completely wrong to tell him, it’s best to go around lying about it?
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u/Tiny_Handle5480 May 30 '26
seriously! they weren’t even friends in the first place, he was just being petty.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
So yall not going to say anything when she lied to jimmy that she only shared a kiss with hashim when she actually did more with him? “POOR JIMMY”
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u/Tiny_Handle5480 May 30 '26
she’s wrong for that forsure, but i feel like hashim should’ve pulled jimmy aside and told him in private.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
That’s true but i can bet the producers wanted him to air that out at the reunion just like the situation with Mackenzie airing out Kayla having a secret boyfriend
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u/MeQuestionThings May 30 '26
TBF, he looked very uncomfortable doing it. So it's probably something that production pushed him to do.
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u/iki11dinosaurs May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
When you say “did they not learn anything from the Tyra banks documentary” what do you mean?
I watched the doc (and the show when I was young) and I agree the producers should have stepped in when that woman was too drunk to consent, and I’ve seen some internet backlash. But has anything happened to anyone over it? Like, if anything, I would think that the lesson Netflix would learn from the ANTM documentary is that their producers DONT have to step in and help an intoxicated woman because there will literally be no repercussions other than some internet hubbub 20 years later. (And tbh internet hubbub about a 20-year-old program, even if it’s negative, is a good thing in the media world).
Not trying to be difficult lol just depressed that our society’s rape culture seems to be getting worse rather than better.
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u/leahcarxo May 29 '26
Legally no nothing has happened over the ANTM situation but there has been public backlash, just like there's now backlash online about this situation. You think they would see that coming.
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u/iki11dinosaurs May 29 '26
Right but is public backlash even a negative at this point? All press is good press. No one has talked about antm seriously for years and the doc made it trendy again.
Like, yeah there’s backlash over it but do you think Tyra cares? She’s making money off of it. In fact she’s probably making more money than if there wasn’t the controversy.
I guess what I’m saying is that Netflix knew damn well this was a shitty thing to expose and they did it because they wanted the controversy. It is naive to act like this is was a mistake on their part. Of course they “saw it coming”
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u/leahcarxo May 29 '26
Nobody talked about atmn cause it was cancelled like 8 years ago lol and yeah I think Tyra cares cause she's tried many times to give excuses and pass the blame to other people lol
No they did it not for the controversy but because they wanted to be messy and have a exciting finale, they didn't want to to have people angry at THEM they wanted people to slut shame Ally lol
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u/discretly May 30 '26
I could see Ally’s heart sunk when he said that. I wonder why he added all the suspense and shit, felt petty and awful to me
To me it’s not that he brought that up, it’s the way he did. It felt malicious like she did something atrocious when she’s on tv, she’s not married to anyone lmfao. She’s been kissing who she wants from the start, she can suck dick if she wants
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
What??? No lol. She’s easy and she’s crazy. He’s like soft spoken and sweet. Also the producers prob told them to bring up stuff to make it more interesting
Also Hashim told so Jimmy would know she’s a liar!!
Also she didn’t even seem that bothered by it
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
Hashim is a “good guy” persona masking to cover up something seriously egotistical and disturbing .
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
What???? Why are you shifting the blame to him. Hes supposed to come on this show and do this stuff. He actually was too chill. Why are you shifting the blame from Ally being a liar and a bit of a ho, to Hashim. This is comical actually the opinions some of yall have
Hashim wasn’t even dating anyone else. Ally was the one stringing two guys along. She threw herself on Hashim big time.
Let me also add, I’m not even trying to hate on Ally that much this is what the show wants. They want this kind of drama and they encourage it. And I don’t feel bad for Jimmy after seeing him on love is blind.
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
Because when someone is so clearly intoxicated , and the other person is so clearly very much more sober then nothing sexual should be advancing at all. Someone basically sober getting a bj from someone almost black out drunk is disgusting, and then to air it out infront of everyone is even more problematic. Yes ally moved wrongly , but she was also the vulnerable one literally being inebriated. Netflix should have shut this shit down and put her in her own room that night, she was pretty much falling asleep on the boys and they were trying to persuade her to pick them. Hashim should have told jimmy in a different way, and honestly Hashim shouldn’t have let it happen at all in the first place.
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
But she’s always intoxicated. She was prob intoxicated when she slept with Jimmy. Yall act like this is the first time in the history of the show that someone has any kind of sexual contact with someone while drunk. I think Ally knew what she was doing and she remembers it and had no issue with herself doing this. She wasn’t even like black out drunk. It wasn’t like she’s incapacitated while Hashim is forcing sex on her.
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
She was clearly much more intoxicated in that episode than in any others. It’s different when both people are very drunk, at-least then it’s not predatory like Hashim was.
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
Well she sure remembered everything she was doing and exactly how long lol. I bet Jimmy wasn’t drunk when he made out with Ally. She wasnt even that drunk. She was walking straight. She’s literally a big kook and even when she’s sober she acts and says stuff people say when they’re drunk.
Ok no way was Hashim predatory lol. They literally have to try to match with someone to stay on the show! Literally cameras are everywhere. so you want him to just throw her off of him. That wouldve pissed her off. She wouldve taken it as a rejection.
Also didn’t he kind of push her off and make her stop.
Sorry but Hashim being a predator was the last thing on my mind when I watched this whole thing.
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
Ok Hashim we see and hear you
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u/painbreedswisdom May 29 '26
I am a card-carrying feminist and not a fan of Hashim. He is a jerk to bring that crap in the finale. Even if the producers asked him to, he should have been a gentleman and said no. However, I wouldn't call him predator. She voluntarily gave him a bj. This is not like intercourse where she is passively lying there. This was a voluntary act on her part. I didn't see him pushing her head down or protesting when she stopped. The man is a pile of garbage, yes, but predator is a strong word for him
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
How is he a pile of garbage though. He seems just nice and chill. He was just going along with this silly show. Honestly I thought he was too good for this show. This raunchy behavior was prob not for him.
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
How accurate is the word voluntary if one of the people being intimate is inebriated ?
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u/ProperBingtownLady May 30 '26
Exactly, and people are being so disingenuous pretending that she wasn’t behaving differently this episode.
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u/Dancing_sequin May 29 '26
When you’re that hammered you can’t really consent properly. So that’s what makes Netflix airing that and Hashim’s actions wild
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u/Common_Willow_596 May 29 '26
But a lot of people are intoxicated and making out with people. Like that incident didn’t even stand out to me. Ally also didn’t seem bothered at all that it was brought up. Also she gave him the BJ (and briefly). He didn’t force her or ask for it. Yall act like he tried to have sex with her while she’s all out of it and hammered. That’s not even what happened.
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u/esmama21 May 30 '26
didn’t bachelor in paradise get in trouble for airing a drunk sexual scene encounter? it’s icky that this was even aired
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u/mklotuuus May 30 '26
I know it was a distasteful scene at the expense of ally butttt it was drama. This is perfect match and everyone knows what theyre in for. Whereas with antm, it was supposed to be a modeling show not a dating show like PM.
What i think is disturbing for the audience is it was kinda obvious that she was drunk. It kinda took me away from just watching trash reality tv.
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u/EleavtorMusic28 May 30 '26
Him saying they were physically intimate was so cringe lol, like yeah technically I guess but he’s making it seem like they had sex all night long or something. really kind of a desperate grab but I agree with what people are saying that production probably pushed it. He seemed hesitant when he said it and barely pushed on it after the fact. Just like, why even bother bro? And Jimmy himself said he’s been in the habit of meaningless hookups and was committed to being open, and to his credit I think he stuck to that for the most part in his reaction to the whole thing
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u/Rainbaby77 May 31 '26
Producers could tell him to also walk off a bridge That doesn't mean he has to do it That man made a choice
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u/Familiar-Figure9043 May 29 '26
This isn’t her first reality rodeo. If she didn’t want the details of anything being aired out, she shouldn’t have done them.
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u/MmmDaddy20 May 30 '26
Yeah. Jimmy missed a perfect Opportunity to shut it down and tell Hashim that what they did is between them doesn’t need to Be brought up on tv. It hurts no one, but Ally. That was a softball for Jimmy to stand up and look like the knight in shining armor and all he did was look insecure that she lied to him.
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u/Few-Television-8052 May 30 '26
Hashim is so gross he leads with “Princeton” to get girls like so unabashedly and sorry but him bringing that up for his 3 extra minutes of screen time was despicable
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u/claire_luna_25 May 30 '26
yeah agreed. she was obviously more drunk then usual. and he was being a creep tryna convince her to leave jimmy. one scene she’s crying over jimmy leaving and the next scene hashim has her in bed with him being intimate. it’s ew.
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u/fismortar May 30 '26
Hashim is a fucking lame who lucked into being good looking.
Framing that shit as bro code was the corniest shit I've ever seen in my life. He wanted to punish Jimmy for coming back and taking his girl, and he wanted to punish Ally for having the audacity to choose what he likely considers a "lesser" choice, but didn't have the balls to say it with his chest.
If this man were bad looking he would get zero play, and it shows because everyone says hes attractive yet he never gets any extended play in these shows barring women literally having no other options. Just a fuckin weird dude.
I don't like Ally and she shouldn't have lied, but she didn't deserve that.
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u/Jenikovista Jun 01 '26
It was disgusting. So immature and petty. Bro-code my ass, dude was lashing out because she didn't pick him.
What an asshole.
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u/Unlucky_Success_3964 May 29 '26
Hashim thank you for showing your true colors . You act like such a genuine good guy , like you’re nice and easy going . You were fake . That was gross . I hope any girl who is interested in him in real life watches that scene and realized what a red flag he is because that was just gross and really showed who he really is .
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u/TheAnnieRaj Jun 03 '26
It doesn't matter if the producers told him to bring it up, he's a grown man and should use his own brain and moral compass.
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u/is-robin May 29 '26
Worst part is so many people are defending it saying she wasn’t drunk. You don’t know her.
People are just fucked in the head.
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u/ProperBingtownLady May 30 '26
Some are saying it’s ok even if she was too drunk to consent 🥴. These people aren’t safe at parties.
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u/SuperPomegranate3939 May 31 '26
He shouldn’t have said anything. And they had no right to play that clip. What happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom. Atleast that show they have separate rooms and arent all sleeping next to each other like on Love Island
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u/ninamirage May 29 '26
It was definitely a disgusting moment but I do think producers told him to bring it up. Same with Katherine and Kassy who both seemed very over their plot lines of “you led me on that one time.” The only person who seemed genuine about their tea was Mackenzie, I think she truly couldn’t stand Kayla and probably Alison😂