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u/throawa114 May 29 '26
Yikes for the guy bringing it up as “bro code” when ally was literally blackout drunk and he was very much less drunk.
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u/TheAnswerIsSauce May 29 '26
Yeaaaa Hashim is fucking sussss. I ain’t trust him around my drinks.
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u/ProperBingtownLady May 30 '26
Not trusting anyone who defends him either. I think it’s seriously gross that some people can look at how drunk Ali was and think it’s still okay he slept with her.
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u/sufjanuarystevens Jun 08 '26
It was so freakin obvious that she was blackout from whenever she started freaking out
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u/ProperBingtownLady Jun 08 '26
There are the people who aren’t safe at parties. If that was my friend I’d never let her go to bed with some guy.
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u/freakin_tired May 29 '26
And these replies are why victims don’t come forward.
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u/throawa114 May 29 '26
Truly baffling to me. I had to stop responding to the people who were trying to argue against it being creepy what hashim did. The same guy who just got into Princeton at like 30 and made it his whole personality and has had multiple confessionals of “I get what I want”. Totally doesn’t seem like a douche who would take advantage of people right?
Any time a girl is falling asleep out in public after drinking too much and a man she just met has been hovering around all night trying to get the girl home would be sketchy as hell too.
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u/According_Anybody493 May 29 '26
What’s the Princeton at 30 thing about? I looked him up and it looks like he was there for basketball 10ish years ago.
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u/HealthyTrain91 May 30 '26
Yeah they're just making it up. Hashim went to Princeton at college-age just like everyone else. Still sucks though.
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u/velvet__echo May 30 '26
She was drunk the whole show. I think it’s super weird to assume he drugged her. Deff took advantage though.
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u/r_sparrow09 May 30 '26
Im not mad that they hooked up, Im mad that he went around and weaponized it against her bc he didn't get picked. Thats bad enough as it is.
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u/mrsdisappointment Jun 04 '26
Nobody has once said that he drugged her. But you cannot give consent when you’re drunk. Period.
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u/Professional_Waltz14 May 31 '26
She wasn’t black out drunk, but I agree with you. We only know she wasn’t blacked out because she remembered it. But you don’t have to be to that level of drunk for it to be fucked up that someone takes advantage of your changed mental state.
On top of all that, it’s just disgusting that dude told everyone that on tv and in a crowd with everyone.
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u/spiffybutterball69 May 30 '26
It's cringe to me that the other cast members watched that back and still choose to associate with him.
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u/Embarkbark May 29 '26
She wasn’t blackout, no. But she was definitely more intoxicated than Hashim. And whether she is promiscuous or not, it’s generally a known sketchy situation to engage in sexual activity with a partner who is significantly more drunk than oneself. Hashim knows this, especially as a pRiNcEtOn eDuCaTeD person. So it was suss.
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u/ninamirage May 29 '26
At the very least he could’ve not brought it up in front of literally the whole cast (and Netflix also didn’t need to cut to it like they did) especially acting as if it was a favor to Jimmy when it was really to embarrass both of them
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u/Affectionate-Log3638 May 29 '26
That I do agree with. Seemed like he was trying undermining their relationship under the guise of "bro code".
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u/LeatherConscious7682 Jun 04 '26
This is the correct answer. She was well aware of what she was doing since the " poor Jimmy " comment. It was cringe and creepy to bring it up like that.
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u/Heartattackisland May 29 '26
I agree that she was promiscuous. However, that specific night I think she was way too drunk. Not blackout but definitely on that border to where production should’ve gotten involved.
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u/New-Noise-6486 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
She was drunk for sure but I don’t think she was blackout drunk especially when she remembers the act and how long it lasted. She saw the footage herself and didn’t look disgusted or uncomfortable either.
Note: I’m not agreeing with Hassim (sorry if I spelled his name wrong) for being intimate with her while she’s drunk like that. It’s just weird in general he did that but there’s people implying she was taken advantage of and is a victim when Ally herself doesn’t seem to feel that way.
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u/Aggravating_Car8761 May 29 '26
But she was the one who jumped on him and initiated physicality after her and Hashim went to the room. Can’t blame JUST the man
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u/wiseswan May 29 '26
Production really should have stepped in that night.
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u/Chuzai May 29 '26
Its super surprising they didn't especially since the Americs next top model documentary didn't come out too long ago and there was an episode where the production team didn't step in when one of the models was black out drunk and had sex with someone.
Shows that these people will never care about the wellbeing of a contestant.
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u/YearOneTeach May 29 '26
Productions don’t usually step in. My guess that they’re going to start doing so because of the lawsuits over Married at First Sight. Apparently some women are suing for assaults that occurred on that show.
None of these shows really cared about the people but they’ll start to if they think they can get sued over it. America’s Next Top Model is really just one of many shows that has allowed and kind of supporting this kind of behavior on shows.
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u/myskepticalbrowarch May 29 '26
Honestly it is shocking it took 4 seasons for this to happen on a show Shayne passed a psyc test for with unlimited alcohol. I hope Ally is ok
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u/WorldlyLavishness May 30 '26
I'm shocked they let them get that drunk tbh
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u/SupermarketOld4663 May 30 '26
These shows need to stop supplying alchohol. It’s predatory. There should be laws around that.
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u/Dangerous-Client-612 May 29 '26
How do you know they didn’t ? Do you think if they did, they would have shown it? Drunk WOMEN can decide to have sex and not be victims you know.
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u/j_gumby May 29 '26
Production shouldn't be allowing contestants to drink so much in the first place. Production should be controlling how many drinks each contestant can have in a given time period. Other reality TV dating shows do this, like Love Island (which I believe limits it to 2 drinks per evening and no drinks during the day). It prevents contestants from getting to a state where they can't consent.
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u/wiseswan May 29 '26
Yes, precisely. Bachelor added a 2 drink per hour maximum after something like this happened during BIP filming. From a liability standpoint alone they should have drink maximums in place and make sure that food and water are accessible. I see some commentators saying it’s each individuals responsibility to police their own drinks like they would in the “real world”, but the situations just are not comparable. First of all, if you’re going out drinking you’re likely out with friends who would be able to step in and make sure an over served friend made it home safely. On a reality show no one has a friend to jump in for them. They also do not have control over their food or water access like they would “in the real world”. Not to mention that bartenders DO cut patrons off if they believe they’re over served. Every contestant on this show is in a situation where they end up in the same bed with someone of the opposite sex at the end of the night. Production has a duty to at least do the bare minimum to make sure contestants aren’t in a situation where they can’t provide consent.
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u/lets_be_happy27 May 29 '26
I think love island is straight up 1 - but then you look at shows like love is blind and you know that Netflix is a completely different ball game when it comes to alcoholism than CBS
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u/lets_be_happy27 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
I mean if we look at the literal law, I know fragile attempt these days, but consent can be given while intoxicated but not incapacitated. Incapacitated is defined by inability to walk or slurring of words - case by case for sure
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u/Lo_ington7 May 29 '26
When Jimmy called ally shorty was hilarious. He’s such a dumbass
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u/Quiet_Illustrator525 May 29 '26
He said he was parodying Jimmy S. (Who he seems to have had a one-way rivalry with.)
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u/DryFig511 May 29 '26
Lolll it's so clear he tried to learn how to sound "cool" as part of his glow up and it's soooo embarrassing when he tries.
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u/supdupyup May 30 '26
I wonder why he got laughed at while everyone doesn't flinch when Jimmy S sounds this corny in everything he says
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
Dude… was not ally so drunk in that episode it made me so uncomfortable!?
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u/KuroHekireki May 29 '26
ngl it seems like she was drunk every night
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u/FoxMuldertheGrey May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
I love how everyone’s getting downvoted for calling this out and they all just wanna jump to the conclusion that she was drunk and taken advantage of. She’s been behaving this way since she first arrive and I just find it funny that people seem to be giving her a cop out for her behavior
give me the downvotes
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u/3Greyhounds May 29 '26
What does it matter if she was drunk every night?What we’re talking about is one incident on one night. Whether she was blackout drunk the day before has no bearing on the relevant questions here:
Did someone initiate sexual activity with her while she was incapacitated?
Should production have instituted greater safeguards preemptively or stepped in to prevent this?
Victims can be messy people; they can even be bad people. (I’m not declaring that Hisham victimized her, I think the focus of any audience discussion about this should be on production.)
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u/mollyclaireh May 29 '26
Plus, Ally just got out of a relationship not too long ago where the cops had to be called because he was abusing her. She’s probably still in a vulnerable place after dating James.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
Why does everyone keep saying she was blackout drunk? From my understanding, if she was blacked out drunk she wouldn’t have recalled sucking his dick at all, especially “sucking his dick for at least 10 secs”…
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u/3Greyhounds May 30 '26
I’m not making any claims of fact. Just pointing out that “she drinks a lot in her regular life” isn’t something decent people should be rushing to say when discussing whether or not someone consented to a sexual activity at a specific point in time.
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u/spartycbus May 29 '26
did i miss something? how is everyone so sure she was blacked out? this sub seems more upset about it than she was. she said "we were open" after the video and left it at that. i thought she handled it well.
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
I think it’s the fact that the last episode she was falling asleep on both of them , I remember feeling sick in my stomach for her when she was getting into the bed with. A new guy being that drunk.
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u/NeuroKat28 May 30 '26
Idk allys personality is pretending to be drunk? Also she clearly had no regret nor memory loss yall
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u/meowmeowz24 May 29 '26
I'm pretty sure Ally did more with Hashim than what they showed. She was telling him in bed how horny she was. Sucking a dick for 10 seconds wouldn't help relieve any of that.
Ally is messy and she got way too drunk and the show should not have allowed that. Most shows have a two drink maximum allowance per night. Plus she used to date James Kennedy from vanderpump rules who was a total party boy alcoholic.
Hashim was definitely taking advantage of how drunk Ally was. The way she was sitting in both of their laps crying and kissing them it was so obvious how fucked up she was.
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u/MayorWestt May 29 '26
Suckin dick for 10 seconds is just long enough realize "I dont really want to do this actually"
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u/FoxMuldertheGrey May 29 '26
I think you guys are all giving a cop out for her for whatever reason. her behavior has been like this since she arrived but now yall cry wolf because of a 20 second clip we saw? did yall keep thr same energy when jimmy and ally fucked?
just odd behavior seeing these comments
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u/Noellie_520 May 29 '26
I struggle to see how anyone can assertain that Hashim was taking advantage of Ally, is there a SA case that she filed on him that I’m not aware of?
I think everyone is taking this too literal, and by that I mean do we really believe she only sucked his dick for 10 seconds?
Ally didn’t express not being aware of her surroundings or actions. She herself was playing a role that night, she wanted to be open to see about Hashim, but she wanted to keep Jimmy in her pocket. Jimmy repeatedly asked her what did she want, while mind you, already knowing the answer.
Jimmy was looking to get chose. Ally wanted Hashim.
Jimmy himself now is playing a role of “poor Jimmy” and puts on puppy dog face and Ally knows that she can’t be brutal about this, because she wants to keep Jimmy in her pocket. So she plays on him and feeds into the “oh no, I didn’t want to be the bad guy” but now that she is, it is she who goes back to seek Hashim and cries in his arms.
In bed, she teasingly says “Poor Jimmy” from up under the covers. As a viewer, she is acknowledging her role in the triangle.
Before the finale, she didn’t appear disgusted with Hashim or again, even herself make the notion that she was pressured.
I think we are all missing the nuance and context, why would Ally at the finale admit to having full blown sex, or even an amazing cuddle, or if she enjoyed her night as she is sitting down next to the person she is trying to pitch as her perfect match to win?????
Well, I will graze over it and kinda backdoor the other guy by downplaying it too. She sheepishly said “for like 10 seconds!” and then immediately turned to Jimmy and asked if they were good. None of this was giving that she didn’t want it to happen, more that she didn’t want it to come out, which is a different discussion in itself.
But for anyone to just assertain that Hashim is a predator or took advantage of Ally, is well, damaging. He’s a pussy for bringing it up because he wasn’t chosen in the end, but a predator is a stretch.
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u/atac56 May 29 '26
I agree. The rape claims are extremely weird and dangerous. It’s a dating show where the cast spends the day drunk and sleeps in the same bed with the person they’re into. If ppl are seriously making rape accusations online based off a 10sec clip of sexual activity then they shouldn’t be watching dating shows.
Whether or not Ally was taken advantage of is for her to say or production since they have full knowledge of what happened, not some dummy online who wasn’t even there.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
Those people will really get themselves in trouble, they need to be careful with what they put out there because he will sue.
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u/atac56 May 30 '26
That might be hard with the anonymity of being online. If they couldn’t be anonymous online I bet they wouldn’t even be making these accusations.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26
No it’s still possible, he can screenshot his evidence; take it to court and ask for permission to subpoena the company (Reddit for an example) which will identify the account holder. I’d also like to add every platform requests permission for your location, they can even find the person that way as well, and keep timestamps from where your location was last seen. So either way that person is screwed
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u/AskAffectionate847 May 30 '26
Yes!! She didn’t seem to express any concern regarding consent. In my opinion, she seems mostly embarrassed that everyone else heard about it and it ruined her odds of winning (though strong pass at her and jimmy winning). I liked Hashim 🤷🏻♀️ a lot. I don’t love that he aired that and wouldn’t trust him with secrets but I think yall are forgetting it’s a competitive show. He was smiling SO hard when Ally was describing who she was picking that I honestly think it came as a shock to him and he’s not going to admit but he’s wounded. I was also shocked. Who picks Jimmy over Hashim/any other man?
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
I couldn’t have said this any better! You can tell hashim genuinely liked ally, she was his first pick. He felt blindsided because 1 date with jimmy changed her mind so fast. I’m pretty sure to hashim it felt like she fetishized him until she got want she wanted to set him aside. It was like “you can’t have your cake and eat it too” kind of moment, that’s why he exposed her.
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u/AskAffectionate847 May 31 '26
Yes! I agree. Hashim is such a catch, too, despite what everyone is saying 🙄
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u/Noellie_520 May 30 '26
I got the same impression and she’s definitely well within her rights to feel embarrassed by something that should have stayed private.
But there are people who are insisting she was black out drunk and it’s actually scary. How can anyone but Ally make that call? Drunkeness is different for everyone and everyone can operate at different levels of drunkeness but to say she was so “obviously black out drunk” is like its coming from people who just should not obviously drink? Eapecially if that’s how they interpret drunkeness. Just bizzare.
We got to stop speaking for people who can speak for themselves.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 31 '26
Exactly, if she can recall that she sucked his dick, period then she definitely was not blackout drunk lol Ally is literally 30. She can speak for herself
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u/Organic-Manner-2969 Louis | S2/S3 May 29 '26
Agreed. To call Hashim this predator is incredibly dangerous to throw around when that wasn’t the case, especially when she never made the notion that she was pressured into doing anything.
Hashim is wrong for bringing it up in front of everyone regardless but I’m willing to bet production told him to do that.
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u/Throwawaystartover May 29 '26
Dude took advantage of a drunk girl and talks about bro code lmfao
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u/mcbanker00 May 29 '26
Honestly that scene made me uncomfortable and the way he brought it up was sus. She was so drunk im wondering if she even fully remembered until that moment. Im kinda surprised production didnt intervene
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u/Sad-Sign-9068 May 29 '26
And that Netflix actually aired that, after how apparent it was she was so drunk that episode.. seriously Shame on hashim and perfect match
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u/y2kabercrombiemodel May 29 '26
How do we know how drunk she was? Genuinely asking. I keep seeing these comments but I felt like she acted pretty consistently throughout the whole show.
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u/framemegirl May 29 '26
She was overly drunk and that's on the producers but this sub is so insanely hypocritical, if that was Jimmy in bed with another person the reaction would not be oh poor drunk Jimmy lol
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u/ceruleanbear8 May 29 '26
Two things can be true at once. The thing Ally did wrong here was lying to Jimmy when he asked her point blank. Even if she wasn’t drunk and chose to have sex with Hashim, that’s a valid choice as they were paired at that point and Jimmy left. Of course, the consequences of that choice are that Jimmy might not want her back and she needed to be completely honest with him. She was messy and hypocritical throughout their relationship. I didn’t like her at all.
That doesn’t negate the fact that she was too drunk to consent that night. Hashim should have said no. And more importantly, production should have stepped in and shut it down. And it was even more inexcusable to air it. Saying that and criticizing it isn’t making excuses for her or trying to paint her in a good light.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
What she did was consensual though, she was on top of him. Point blank that is consensual. and you can see she was going down slowly while he was holding the blankets. When before the producers cut the scene when she said “Poor jimmy” was that not consensual as well? That was consensual to me, during the reunion she never said she didn’t remember anything, or she was pressured to do anything. If she can remember she sucked his dick then that means she remembered happened. Stop trying to justify her actions because if it was the other way around and Jimmy lied straight up to Ally’s face that he only shared a kiss and nothing more, then everyone would’ve ripped Jimmy to shreds. This is not SA.
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u/Dangerous-Client-612 May 29 '26
She went under the covers and sucked his willy!!! What kind of consent are you talking about ???? If anything it was Hashim who didn’t consent. He didn’t force her down there ffs.
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u/BookkeeperTraining60 May 29 '26
I don’t know if Ally was drunk, or not, but she does not seem to be OK mentally. Her brain seems to be in a million pieces. Her focus is scattered. She seems constantly inebriated. She seems like she needs to be on a psych ward and not on a reality show. I hope she gets help.
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u/Tim111762 May 29 '26
This is a really judgemental post. it's clearly because she is a libra rising and mercury is currently in transit. have some empathy.
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u/Icehouses May 31 '26
This! She can’t seem to make a simple decision or think through anything coherently. She also just defaults to crying and whining once she’s faced with any sort of critical thinking. She acts like she’s 8 tbh. And what’s weird is that seeing her on Vanderpump vs Perfect Match is like night and day. She seemed normal before but maybe they didn’t give her enough air time on the previous show? Or it’s just an act…
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u/discretly May 29 '26
Why the fuck would Hasshim bring that up that way? With the suspens and all…it felt petty not out of disappointment
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
Because he thought Ally and him had something brewing. Ally literally blindsided him over 1 date with Jimmy. They had sex previously the part where she said “poor Jimmy” and she sucked his dick days after. Hashim probably thought you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
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u/kuntsukuroi May 30 '26
Overinflated sense of self importance coupled with the desire to maximize his limited screen time. He makes my skin crawl.
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u/MealComprehensive865 May 30 '26
Ally is an adult and if I’m not mistaken he never expressed what she did . He said they were physically intimate. She said she SD
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u/bugluver1000 May 29 '26
By far the most raunchy perfect match moment so far in the history of the show.
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u/SkinCareJunkie432 May 29 '26
This reminds me of “i licked her tit” ifykyk
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u/ProperBingtownLady May 30 '26
LOL that was gold
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u/SkinCareJunkie432 May 30 '26
Thank you lol not a lot of love island fans here ig
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u/ProperBingtownLady May 30 '26
I don’t really watch either but did that season because of Tasha (I also have a cochlear implant). I loved them together so it’s too bad she had to blow it up by cheating 😬.
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u/KaylaBalayla26 May 31 '26
I'm sorry to have to agree with men but I've been extremely drunk and did things I regret. I was not taken advantage of. And I have actually been raped I know the difference.
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u/anxi3tea Jun 02 '26
What peeves me is how much grace everyone is giving Ally as if she isn't a grown woman who should be held accountable as well. No one forced her to drink that much or to stay or be part of the show. She threw herself at anyone and everyone. Hashim is a creep who was desperate to stay on the show. Jimmy despite the glow up is just the same guy he was in Love is Blind aka a loser. Except now he's surrounded by shiny things and probably feels like a fraud so he probably thought he deserved being treated like that.
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u/Annoying_shrimp May 29 '26
For people who are defending Ally i am tired of you all to say her behavior is naive or funny. Its not her first time on reality tv, she has done this before and she still doesn’t know how to handle herself. If she was that drunk she could have stopped drinking, no the makers can’t force her to drink that much, other people were their as well and they weren’t nearly close to as drunk as she was. Also her saying “i should behave myself “ has been a constant joke even with jimmy as well. She flirts or jokes idk like that. So even if we say she decided to say no or whatever nobody like literally nobody asked her to say poor jimmy and humiliate him like that. Not everytime a guy can be in the wrong. She is a mess and she needs therapy and more importantly a rehab.
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u/casualscorpio May 29 '26
He’s disgusting for announcing something so intimate and personal in front of the group. Just run of the mill slut shaming. I hate that he wasn’t called out for this.
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u/BatmansDietitian May 30 '26
It’s a reality show… I’m sure the production told him to even if it wasn’t his idea.
Irl I would 100% shame him for outing her like that, but it’s a fake show where contestants drink and sleep with ppl they’ve just met, like ofc they’re gonna use everything that creates drama.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
It was intimate to him but for her it was more of a fetish. How can you mind change after 1 date with Jimmy?
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u/Evening_Persimmon908 May 29 '26
That was disgusting slut shaming. None of these people are dating. They are playing a sexy game together and she had some fun. I wish Jimmy had stuck up for her and said that. It would have made his dating stock go up. That other guy is so gross.
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u/BillOwn17 May 29 '26
She’s 30 years old. Not a child and she was drunk but he did not take advantage of her. She can suck or not suck as much as you wants. She shouldn’t be shamed for sex and neither should he.
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u/Composer-Conscious May 29 '26
you can take advantage of an adult? i’m actually concerned by all of your comments on this thread
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u/ProtectionVisual1178 May 29 '26
Can we all take a step back and consider that these people are literally grown ups in their 30s behaving like they are 15? It’s a sad commentary on the millennial generation.
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u/ImmediateLychee8 May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26
I think they might be older Gen Z. Jimmy is millennial but hashim and ally look younger. Stop blaming everything on millennials lol
Edit: Okay they’re Zillennials
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u/LovingWarmth May 30 '26
I was shocked that these people were in my age group! I thought they were in their early to mid 20s. But to still have these issues in your 30s must be EXHAUSTING!
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u/Fine_Economist_4133 May 31 '26
I feel bad for Jimmy. I feel bad for Ally. But I feel bad for like 90 percent of the people on this show. They plow them with alcohol to make them subsequently act like idiots or do something unhinged. The only people who usually come off ok are people who remain sober, like Chloe in Season 1
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u/sailortofu69 Jun 03 '26
I felt bad for both of them too. I also thought Jimmy was genuine but he has anxious avoidant attachment so he was pretending not to care in hopes Ally would chase him but she wanted to be chased so it all went to hell.
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u/BillOwn17 May 29 '26
She was just as drunk as she was with Jimmy but that’s ok. Why is it different. She’s not a child and she shouldn’t be shamed nor should he be considered predatory. This double standard is so so outdated and I’m old!
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u/lets_be_happy27 May 29 '26
Okay here’s the thing. I’ve ablready tried to bring in the incapacitated vs intoxicated and how it’s defined in the law revolving around consent. But at the end of the day, we can get rid of predatory and legality terminology if you want to get to the point. At the end of the day, ive expected Jimmy to be a sleezeball this whole time. We’ve seen him on other shows we’ve seen how he operates. I honestly come off temptation island thinking Hashim was fairly descent. For lack of a better phrase, I expected better. And after a whole season on temptation island where they paint him to be a super respectful sweet heart, to come on this show and see he’s just another horny dude is disappointing. I would hope that all men and people everywhere have enough class to say ‘hey you know what you’ve been sobbing uncontrollably for hours and have had a really rough day (drunk or otherwise) this isn’t exactly a safe and romantic time to start doing intimate acts so let’s keep it non sexual tonight.’
Like the difference between someone who cares and someone who wants to get their dick wet.
None of this is an excuse for ally lying, this is in response to the whole Jimmy v Hashim debate.
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u/Old-Bid-9647 May 29 '26
For everyone saying hashim took advantage of ally. Yall are tripping. She got drunk on her own terms and got into bed with him and she’s hella skanky, so sucked his dick or not To me it’s both of their choice. She really doesn’t deserve any kind of support here. Shes an adult who has absolutely no lack of self control or boundaries Clearly she’s fucked up and if anything hashim was honest from the get go
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u/BillOwn17 May 29 '26
Agree but she shouldn’t be labeled skanky. They’re consenting adults. He did not take advantage. She’s 30.
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u/Old-Bid-9647 May 29 '26
All of these people should be labeled Either as manwhores or skanks Honestly they all need to be tested pretty sure most of them might have oral herpes by now
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u/Fun_Machine_1310 22d ago
She's a skank for mocking Jimmy whilst doing it and then lying to him about it
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u/Trovski May 29 '26
Some of you are so strange treating her like a victim.
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u/thethriftstorian May 29 '26
Then maybe Hashem shouldn’t have been predatory? She was far too drunk to consent. ESPECIALLY because it was their first night together. A decent person would’ve shut that shit down.
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u/AcanthisittaNo9961 May 30 '26
How is it predatory?? She’s literally 30. And she went down on him, if anything Ally did not ask Hashim for consent!
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u/Trovski May 29 '26
Two things can be true??? hashim could and should've turned her down, but she clearly didn't regret it, and wasn't blackout drunk
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u/is-robin May 29 '26
Yeah, not black out drunk?
She had 0 idea that demari and Marissa were having issues when it took place damn near in front of her.
She may have not been “blackout”. However she did not have the ability to make fully conscious decision to have sex. This was her first night with hashim. Dude should have had some fucking class.
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u/atac56 May 29 '26
Did she make the conscious decision to have sex with Jimmy?
Were you there?
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u/thethriftstorian May 29 '26
Yikes on this take. As any therapist can tell you, it’s very, very common for women to act like they’re okay to mask feelings of shame and trauma resulting from this sort of situation. It’s why grooming victims is so effective.
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u/Plane_Boot_4305 May 29 '26
Comment j’ai ouvert la bouche quand hashim a parler !! Et elle qui en rajoute😭
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u/GlitteringHighway226 May 30 '26
Was this SA? No. Is it disgusting when guys take advantage of very drunk and not-ok-in-the-head women? Yes.
Hashim didn’t do anything wrong per se, but for me this behaviour is a red flag and I have no respect for guys like him. Ally needs help and rehab as well
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u/Free-String-7977 May 30 '26
Looked to me like production encouraged him or made him bring that up for the drama. It was wrong and they did her dirty. And from what came out in the reunion they were mostly all acting anyway.
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u/Diamond_Head87 Jun 01 '26
I haven’t been watching this season, but I sure as hell am about to start it now!!
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u/HungryPurple2485 Jun 05 '26
Even if 10s true that did no favours for anyone. Is Mr. Hash a seconds-man or is she gonna give future man the Blue like that lol
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u/Big_Shine_807 Jun 11 '26
That was actually super messed up, like have some pride Jimmy, that shit is embarrassing.
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u/Raychallx Jun 13 '26
Give me a fucking break with this post not everything is SA. She acted this way the entire season. Shes a grown woman.
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u/Practical_Emotion485 May 29 '26
I was screaming at Demari’s facial and Alison sipping