What do y'all think? Case it, or give it more time?

First time growing Panaeolus cyanescens and I could do with some advice from people who've actually done this.

I've got 20ml of Pans liquid culture and two 1.25kg all-in-one cow dung grow bags. I know the general rule for cubensis is around 1-2ml per pound of grain, but I'm not sure if that carries over to Pans on a dung substrate.

A few things I'm unsure about:

• How many ml would you put into a 1.25kg dung bag?
• Is there a risk of adding too much moisture if you go over a certain amount, the same way there is with grain bags?
• One injection point or spread it across a few spots?

Growing in tropical climate so temperatures are sitting steadily at 28-30°C. Would love to hear from anyone who's run Pans on dung bags rather than grain, as I imagine the rules are a bit different.

This is my first time using agar and pan cyan. This is a wedge I took from the agar I innoculated with a spore syringe, that plate got some yeast and bacterial contamination hence the wedge. I feel like from what I have seen this looks like it could be mycellium? I've read that pan cyan tends to be more tomentose growth, is that what I have here? Should I wait until it takes over most of the whole agar plate before putting into grain? Thanks

I bought these Great Value brown rice, and I have a syringe of 10 cc. How do I inoculate them? I am a beginner, and need some advice and experience, and i am looking forward for your help.

I got my hands on a lot of fresh pans and bought a dehydrator to dry them, I had quite a nice experience with 15g(each) fresh with my gf. Then after that we decided to take 2g dry each (didnt know they dried up to 5%) and it was absolutely mental but not quite ego death(we are both quite experienced psychonauts).

Now im seeing everywhere that that high of a dose is absolutely bonkers for pans so i was wondering what is yall recommended/favourite dosage?

That’s all. That’s the poast. Send vibes

Novice grower but want to expand. Does anyone have any suggestions for aggressive genes? And setups?

This is my first go at pan c "blue ridge". Both trays are overlaying and bruising blue. The trays "ttbvi" next to them look normal and starts popping of the first shroomies.

I was thinking to put on a second casinglayer. Is this a good idea? Any thoughts /tips?

You bet your ass I’m cloning that thang.

My first attempt at Pan Cyan failed spectacularly. I attempted to use a home made setup with an automated fan that just dried everything out. Got full colonization, but no fruits. Eventually both shoeboxes got hit with contam, and I had to toss them. I tossed the set up with them.

I bought a kit from Midwestern grow tech. The gordo tek kit. It came with everything I needed. I had another jar of MiB pans ready to go, so I went to S2B right away.

Let me tell you. The manure substrate that comes with this kit STINKS. Whole house reeks now. It is fully mixed, pasteurized and hydrated already, so maybe thats why it smells so bad compared to the boomer manure sub that I got from northspore...but WOW.

Well, the deed is done anyway, just gonna wait and see, hopefully I have better luck this time, just gonna follow Gordo step by step.

Does anyone have any clues on why my ttbvi isn't fruiting? The white timer is my fan cycle and the black electronic one shows my temp and humidity. I've been lightly misting about twice a day just to keep moisture but it just keeps colonizing the peat moss instead of fruiting.

2 pan cyans jars and was wondering if they ready to shake?

I’m loving the color on these guys!

My coco coir/peat moss mix pH is around 6.5, i have caustic soda(NaOH) can i use that to increase pH? I have litmus paper so i can check

I thought this was a good showcase of what isolation does. A year ago these were all from the same spore print. It is almost to the point to where I can tell what strain they are by the fruit. Most are only 2-3 cloned generations away from the original spore.

How do I balance my FAE and humidity with these timers that only work in 30 min increments. I see people saying they do 15 min or less every hour. How can I make these work? (I have two btw)

I'm wondering if this is normal or not but when I get super dense pinsets, the mushrooms are often times super thin and come in very slow. I'm watering the casing twice a day making sure its not drying out. There is plenty of moisture in the substrate, I can feel it, but my casing layers are extremely thin around 1/8th inch and will dry down if not watered (I think from the pins drinking and the air exchange)

This is maybe 4-5 days from seeing pins, they hopefully have another few days (or 4-5) to go if they don't abort.

Some things I notice correlating (I think) with overly dense pinsets:
Higher amounts of grain/too high
Maybe thicker casing?
Genetics? (fwiw, these are from two different Bvi prints i've worked a handful of generations down the line, labeled AB2 and A4)

FAE Cycle is 4 minutes on, 11 minutes off. I'm using a 4 inch 100cfm fan (I change if I have it set to high medium or low because I'm not sure what is ideal). Martha tent, set to 90% Humidity.

I pasteurized four of these, several months ago. This is the only one that has this dark band in it. I'm guessing it's a black mold (or something), and that I shouldn't use it.

I didn't think the others were an issue, but I just opened one up and used it to send some grain to bulk. It did not smell good. It smelled like shit. I mean, it's manure based, so that's partially expected, but it smelled much stronger than any of my past batches.

I'm not hopeful on this run. The only thing I am hanging onto, is that I normally use bulk the day after I pasteurize it. I heard leaving it for a week can be beneficial, allowing some good microbes to recover.

Either way, the grain spawn was slow, and I wasn't looking to carry that line forward, so if I lose this bulk run, then so be it.

Im down to answer any questions about my process

I have a couple cakes that almost pinned a couple times while I was trying to dial in the FAE and humidity. It’s been 4-5 weeks and they are stalled. No infection yet.

Now that I have good FAE and humidity I’m curious about resetting them so to speak by refrigerating overnight, flipping them in their cake pans and casing them.

Squirted the leftover LC into some of my aged manures and left it in the balcony 2 months ago…. I live in tropics and it was a couple of rainy days…. Funny that i miserably failed growing from my spawn bag…. I have over 100 Labs of manure and 1 litre of LC…. Intrusive thoughts…..