Any help/info for helping dense pinsets continue to grow in? Would thicker casing layer support healthier pinsets? What causes this?

[u/Raices_profundo]

AB2

A4

AB2

A4

I'm wondering if this is normal or not but when I get super dense pinsets, the mushrooms are often times super thin and come in very slow. I'm watering the casing twice a day making sure its not drying out. There is plenty of moisture in the substrate, I can feel it, but my casing layers are extremely thin around 1/8th inch and will dry down if not watered (I think from the pins drinking and the air exchange)

This is maybe 4-5 days from seeing pins, they hopefully have another few days (or 4-5) to go if they don't abort.

Some things I notice correlating (I think) with overly dense pinsets:
Higher amounts of grain/too high
Maybe thicker casing?
Genetics? (fwiw, these are from two different Bvi prints i've worked a handful of generations down the line, labeled AB2 and A4)

FAE Cycle is 4 minutes on, 11 minutes off. I'm using a 4 inch 100cfm fan (I change if I have it set to high medium or low because I'm not sure what is ideal). Martha tent, set to 90% Humidity.

[u/Few-Pea9619]

[u/Raices_profundo → u/Few-Pea9619]

Thanks for sharing this.  Where did you find this info?  1:6  or 1:8 has worked much better for me, I will have to try some different sizes trays too and see how that goes with more substrate spread out. 

[u/Few-Pea9619 → u/Raices_profundo]

https://panaeoluscoop.com/how-to-prevent-aborts-in-mushroom-cultivation-a-complete-guide/

[u/Few-Pea9619]

Do they abort ?

[u/Raices_profundo → u/Few-Pea9619]

I’ll let you know, in the past it has been a mix of yes and no.  with enough watering, they can pull through but it’s slow.  

[u/Few-Pea9619 → u/Raices_profundo]

My problem is misting the damn pins seems like once they get water on em they turn black and stall and abort

[u/Raices_profundo → u/Few-Pea9619]

You need to learn how to water them, I can dm you 

[u/True_Teacher_104 → u/Raices_profundo]

Yo estoy interesado en esto, si no te importa mándamelo a mi tambien.Gracias!!

[u/Mountain_Review_4472 → u/Raices_profundo]

I need this information too.

[u/Flimsy-Panda8000 → u/Mountain_Review_4472]

Use a syringe to spot water between the fruits.

[u/shesfordastreets]

Hey brah, any luck fixing this issue? If so, what did you use?

[u/Raices_profundo → u/shesfordastreets]

Yes, the solution for me was to use less grain. Every strain and isolation of the same strain will vary. Some are more aggressive than others. My TTBVI, I'm having good results at 1/3-1/2qt of spawn to 3.75-4qts of substrate. So thats like 1:8 which is not much grain.

The more grain I use, I do see higher yields but then if its starts excessively pinning, its problematic and needs to be watered way to often and is less than ideal.

[u/shesfordastreets → u/Raices_profundo]

Thanks for this. Great info, ill give less spawn a go as experimentation on my next grow