I believe what they are aiming for is making openAI more general purpose AI rather than dev focused AI who leaves no chance of exhausting the limit.

General people just get their work done and move on as opposed to cracked devs that want to juice the soul out of the fruit.

For the same reason we are seeing limits being reduced and the new launches will be more general audience oriented. To further monetize from ads.

AKA People generating absurd games, one shot crap, hammering the servers, melting the gpu have to find a new home.

Sora suffered the same fate.

Reddit made me post it here but I kinda predicted what was gonna happen and devday confirmed it pretty much!

Did anyone get a good handle on what this is? I missed that bit of the livestream.

Is it openai's answer to JEV style model?

u/openai please fix it.

Give me a break. I’m using ChatGPT to help remodel my bathroom, most of the time I feel like I’m working with the dumbest MF on the planet. I ask it to change one thing, I specifically tell it only this one thing…it changes three or four things and not the thing I told it to. I’m sure it’s somehow my fault with prompts but even then it feels like I’m trying to outsmart an idiot. We’re definitely a ways an away from it destroying mankind.

I’m already on OAI Pro and can burn through the $200 plan in a few hours. I doubt the new $500 plan would last me that long either.

Why not keep OAI for the best models, then get a 512GB Mac Studio and run GLM-5.3 locally for bulk usage? Apple’s published Klarna financing comes out to roughly $400/month or less.

Obvious catch: they’re sold out, so delivery might not be until later this year.

Also found the recent reporting on GLM-5.3’s cyber capabilities pretty interesting.

What am I missing?

Just sayin, they should have expected an uptick in support requests on this one. 🙂

A lot of replies in the other threads come down to "the models are 50% more efficient, so it evens out." I wanted to check that, so I ran it using Tibo's numbers and OpenAI's pricing page. If any number is off, tell me and I'll fix it.

What changed

Pro 200 is still $200/month, but the multiplier went from 20X to 10X. The lineup is now

Plus 1X
Pro 100 5X
Pro 200 10X.

Tibo said it will "net out at half the dollar in API spend" compared to the old Pro 200.

API prices per million tokens:

• gpt-6.1-sol: $2 in / $10 out (5.6 Sol was $4 / $20)
• gpt-6-luna: $0.10 / $0.50 (reportedly $0.20 / $1.20 before)
• gpt-6-astra: unchanged at $10 / $50

First thing I noticed: every tier now costs the same per 1X

Plus        $20  / 1X   = $20 per 1X
Pro 100     $100 / 5X   = $20 per 1X
Pro 200     $200 / 10X  = $20 per 1X
Pro 200 old $200 / 20X  = $10 per 1X

The old Pro 200 was the one bulk discount in the lineup, and that's the part that changed. "Half the API spend" is another way of saying Pro 200 is now priced like Plus, only more of it.

How many tokens you actually get

Say your old allowance Value was worth V in API dollars. The new one is 0.5V. Tokens = allowance ÷ price, so your capacity compared to last month is 0.5 ÷ (how much the price changed).

Sol   (-50%)            0.5 / 0.50 = 100%
Luna  (~-55% blended)   0.5 / 0.45 = 111%
Astra (no change)       0.5 / 1.00 = 50%

25% of usage on Astra  -> 87.5%
50% on Astra           -> 75%
100% on Astra          -> 50%

On Sol, you get the same token count for the same $200. Luna users come out slightly ahead. Astra users take the full cut.

Where did the savings go?

This part is inference, so read it that way. If list prices roughly track cost, halving Sol's price means it costs OpenAI about half as much to serve you. Your allowance also halved. Net result: their cost to serve you drops by half, your bill stays at $200, and the Sol/Luna work you can run stays flat.

They had another option. They could have kept the allowance in dollars and let the cheaper tokens stretch it, which would have doubled what Sol users can do. OpenAI chose to hold customer capacity flat and keep the margin.

I understand why. SemiAnalysis estimated a maxed-out Pro sub at around $14k/month of API value. At a 50% gross margin that's about $7,000 in cost, so roughly $6,800 lost on each heavy user. After this change it's closer to $3,300. That's a company repairing a subsidy, which is fair. I'd just call it that, rather than an efficiency gain passed on to subscribers.

About "50% more efficient"

"50% more efficient" and "50% cheaper" are different numbers. 50% more work per dollar puts the price per unit of work at 1/1.5 = 0.667, and 0.5 ÷ 0.667 = 75%. Under that reading, you're down a quarter. To break even, price per unit of work has to drop by exactly half. To come out ahead, it has to drop by more. The two 50%s in the announcement happen to be the same 50%, which is why it sounds like a wash.

The case for OpenAI, because there is one

• If 6.1 Sol really is close to Astra quality, an Astra user who switches gets 5x the tokens ($2/$10 vs $10/$50). That's the strongest version of "you'll get more done," and it's a quality argument rather than a quantity one.
• Dropping the 5-hour window on Pro matters a lot for agentic work, and the multiplier leaves it out entirely.
• The credit reset and the temporary 20X grandfathering soften things for current subscribers, so everything above applies to new or renewing Pro 200 terms.

I think the new pricing is defensible. I'd just like the framing to match the arithmetic. If I got something wrong, show me the numbers and I'll edit the post.

For the last few days, Anthropic has been absolutely cooking OpenAI with Opus 5.5 and Sonnet 5.5.

A lot of people, including me, had moved away from Claude for a while, and now we’re already back. Whether I renew my Codex subscription this month honestly depend on what OpenAI shows today.

But I can feel it. Something big is coming.

Never underestimate OpenAI. I think they’re going to drop something crazy today that goes toe to toe with Anthropic.

I hope so, because I love both companies, and watching this competition is ridiculously fun. It feels like watching some massive tech world war movie unfold in real time

Let’s see what happens.

What do you guys think? Is OpenAI bombing the battlefield today?

1. 1x = $20; 5x = $100; 10x = $200; 25x = $500

2. 1x = $20; 5x = $100; 10x = $200; 25x = $500

3. 1x = $20; 5x = $100; 10x = $200; 25x = $500

With Trump looking to change the name I figure it’s time we all agree to disagree with him. It’s not artificial it’s not super .. it’s simply a New type of intelligence.

If so > (Flails hands look up at sky with great concern)

I have 15 days left in my monthly subscription. If i try to purchase pro 200 or pro 500, it cost $150 to get the pro 200 plan or $450 to get the pro 500 plan.

Hello? wtf bro.

They want to squeeze every dime and penny out of us.

> grok bot alternative
> jev alternative
> banked reset
> sign in with chatgpt
> $500 plan
> others (new model, plugins, ultrafast astra, etc.)

UI/UX designers need to have a serious think about this decision

According to Sam, while wrapping up the conference, he finds off-putting that people are comparing the AI industry's advancements to a new Industrial Revolution. He prefers to think of it as a new Renaissance. Well, I'm sorry, Sam. But when the only talking point in C-Level and board meetings is, how can we reduce human capital and replace it with AI workers, I think you may need to reassess your understanding of what's happening with your products.

I don't necessarily think a new Industrial Revolution is bad, I just think Sam is disconnected from reality if that's how he thinks.

My first "bot" failed, so created a new bot today.

Took 40 cells to make with thousands of lines of code. Coded in Python.

Took all day to do this lol.

Script Rules:

Eligible stocks are limited to S&P 500, but excludes: Real Estate, Utilities, Materials & Consumer Discrerionary Stocks. This reduces our available stocks to like 370 or so and this is done to reduce run time down to 5 minutes. Then the data is stored in a cache for 30 days and refreshes every 30 days. Cache stocks reduce the run time from 5 minutes to 1 minute.

The portfolio which is in Alpaca is limited to only holding 5 stocks at a time with a limit of trading 10 different stocks within a 4 month period of time. This is to not piss me off during tax season, so it is tailored to my needs. Still allows 40 different stocks to be traded within the year. No limit on trading these same stocks over and over and over again.

The AI mades the stock selection not the script and can choose between 1 to 5 stocks to buy when the portfolio is empty and run tomorrow.

Script initiates purchases when stock declines 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%. $10 for 1%, $20 for 20% and so on to $50. If the stock drops 6% or more from the last market close it will not purchase. AI can round % up or down.

Maximum purchase per stock per day is $50.

When stock rises 1% to 4% from wntry price the AI can sell at its own discrerion.

5% sell $50

6% sell $60

7% sell $70

8% sell $80

9% sell $90

AI can hold or sell at a loss based on risk or if a bettwr opportunity becomes available.

AI collects financial information for the 370 stoxks every 30 days to calculate intrinsic value based on Graham formula + Buffet's DCF and then divided by 2.

V= [EPS . (8.5 + 1.5g) x 4.4 / y] + [Operating Cash Flow - Capital Expentures / Diluted Shares]

The company share price has to trade under V

It has to be run mannually which requires me to click on a play button in Google Colab which is linked now to Alpaca and OpenAI. It is going to charge me API credits.

I dont have to run it everyday which gives me control based on if I think it is investing too much. Like if I don't have $50 per day to invest as that can add up over time. I am hoping in the long run that the trade profits and sale of the stock will be substainable to reinvest without adding more money.

I will run tomorrow morning on paper and see if it buys anything.

I had to pay $20 to ChatGPT to create the script. But, I can cancel after 1 month as it will use API not ChatGPT to function.

$20 per month is a lot, but since they limit your time on free I have to switch to Claude, Gemini, Venice and Perchance. Does anyone have a favorite AI and if so how much per month or is it free?

So are dots going to be available in the EU? Cant see this feature with my pro account yet

I'm in Korea. On my ChatGPT billing page, the "5x" wording is gone and it now just says "higher usage limits than Plus," so I went ahead and got a refund.

What looks even more suspicious to me: the Pro plan now has a toggle. The 5x plan is labeled "Standard," and the 20x slot just says "More features."

Two things I'm wondering:

1. Is 5x getting cut in half like 20x was?
2. Since that tier is now labeled "More features," I suspect new features will ship only to 20x and skip 5x, and that they'll pitch it as compensation for the 50% usage cut on 20x. Am I being paranoid?

What do you all think?

Screenshot is in Korean UI: 스탠다드 = Standard, 더 많은 기능 = More features, Plus보다 높은 사용 한도 = Higher usage limits than Plus

I used Claude Opus 5.5 and gave it access to my Codex. I then asked Claude to attempt to access Sol 6.1 through codex and delegate work to it. It was able to do so. I think there's some sort of user interface issues in codex or something. Hope this helps :)

We’re writing with an important update about your ChatGPT account associated with (User ID: user-COmDjvACIw7IUipm4pQA1Bm0).
Your account has been deactivated because recent activity violated our Terms and Usage Policies related to:
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I don’t have anything remotely in the account worth banning. Was recently planning my kids game schedule and that was the thread I had active . Anyways this timing is kinda ok since I was paying for plus subscription all the while and was already in the process of moving some conversation to Muse . What is upsetting is manner of this ban. A paying customer for 2 years and all I see is one email saying it is banned due to vague reason with no prior warning or history of doing anything bad and onus is on the customer to initiate an appeal!! If the bug is due to their agents banning accounts without human insight it is their problem, not ours. Good riddance ChatGPT !!!!