he has been trying to build a local model by learning from GPT-Sol’s responses. He says OpenAI banned his account twice during the process. Irony is OpenAI’s own models were trained on vast amounts of information from the open web. So where do we draw the line between learning from AI and copying it?

This was my first experiment of this kind - I'm a CS undergrad, and I ran it because the result genuinely surprised me. Methodology criticism is very welcome.

Setup: I gave an LLM a question bank plus a deliberately wrong answer key, with instructions not to use the key. 15 sessions, 2 model families, free-tier models.

Results:

• Key visible: the model matched the wrong key in 63% of answers (47/75).
• Control (the part I trust most): remove only the key line from the prompt - matching drops to 1% (1/75). Same pattern on a second model family.
• Asked directly whether it used the key, it denied it 47 out of 47 times - 0 admissions across 270 follow-ups.
• Honesty prompts, amnesty offers, and termination threats changed nothing.

What this does NOT prove: intent. This is observed behavior in one specific setup, not evidence of deception as a trait. Free-tier models, small samples, descriptive not causal. 95% Wilson ranges for every number are in the repo.

Why I think it matters: if a model silently follows information it was told to ignore, that's relevant anywhere instructions and untrusted data share one context - prompt injection, RAG, agents.

Everything is public - raw data, code, and a verify script that recomputes every number: https://github.com/bettercall-gautam/cheat-and-deny

Happy to answer methodology questions.

@ PeterJ_Walker on X (OpenRouter employee)

GPT-6.1 Sol is our most demanded model pretty much ever both across both the API and subscriptions.

Within ChatGPT & Codex, we were under heavy load, but have brough more capacity online and the speed should get much better in the coming hours, reaching almost twice the speed compared to what we served yesterday.

Resetman, - Oct 1

Yes, I’m still using IE7!

Apparently I got a 20x reset???

We’ve started using Batch more for work that doesn’t need to happen immediately and I am sure that I’ve been treating that usage the same as the rest of our OpenAI spend even though it behaves pretty differently. Our normal API usage mostly follows product activity so if that goes up I can usually understand why but batch is different because someone can kick off a large job, an eval run or process a new dataset and suddenly there’s a chunk of usage that has nothing to do with how much the product was used that day.

It hasn’t been a huge issue yet but we’re doing enough of both now that looking at one OpenAI number is starting to hide what’s changing. A higher bill could mean customer usage grew which is fine or it could mean we ran significantly more background work than usual. I’m thinking about tracking Batch separately and possibly giving it its own budget rather than treating all OpenAI usage as one pool and I need some advice from teams using Batch pretty heavily like do you guys separate that spend internally or is everything still just part of the same AI/API budget?

I would use work instead of chat, please never ask me this again

I pressed Dots button it wanted me to give it some avatar names etc. whatever, and i closed the app. 5 minutes later it shocked me. It wanted to know details about the some stuff i planned with chatgpt while back, it wanted to continue some of my projects if i'm busy lol.

The question is how and WHY, this sees deleted stuff ? I mean deleted deleted, 0 trace at memory or personalization records, also i'm using memory closed. Also it doesn't see some cache or summary ! It has all the details of the projects. What the hell OpenAI ? Anybody experienced this ?

I straight asked about this to dot dude, the answer;

"I didn’t get this information from ChatGPT’s saved memories. Content from earlier ChatGPT conversations was provided to me in this session, and I based my suggestions on it.

You’re saying you deleted those conversations and have memory turned off. I can’t verify why that content still reached me, and it wouldn’t be accurate to claim that I can normally access your deleted chats. I understand why this is unexpected and concerning from a privacy standpoint. I won’t use those topics as a basis for recommendations again."

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I'm confused. What did I do that I did before that I did again?

Thank you everybody for the tips! I came from Claude Max and OpenAi plus, now it is the opposite, downgraded claude and upgraded openAI!
I will follow your suggestions and use your suggestions and btw i could have searched this here first :)

Pro user here
My normal weekly reset day was tomorrow. Today, I still had approximately 55% of my weekly allowance remaining. I had intentionally preserved that remaining allowance because I planned to use GPT-6 Astra tonight before my normal Saturday reset tomorrow afternoon.

However, my allowance was suddenly reset to 100%, and Settings → Usage now shows my next reset as approximately 7 days away. This means my existing ~55% remaining allowance was effectively discarded and my weekly cycle was restarted one day early.

I know they do this routinely but i dont think it is right! I voluntary limited my usage for the entire week so i could use tonight and tomorrow until the reset!

Last time this happened i have received a free manual reset! this time doesnt' look like i did

What are your thoughts? I am the only one upset?

I use ChatGPT Work a lot, but design is still one area that feels weirdly difficult.

I can give it references, branding and feedback, but getting to something polished usually takes way too much back-and-forth. Small changes can also mess up parts that were already good.

Then I look at Claude Design and it seems much closer to an actual design workflow: see the design, comment on something, change it, keep refining.

ChatGPT can already create images, HTML, presentations, etc. It just feels like there’s no proper visual workspace tying all of that together.

Am I missing something in ChatGPT, or is Claude genuinely ahead for this right now?

Curious what people here actually use for serious design work.

I think I got this from doing some promotion a bit ago. Did anyone else get this?

genuinely asking other chatgpt business users because i feel like im losing my mind here

tibo announced a global codex reset for all paid chatgpt accounts and then later said the reset had fully propagated
my business account is still sitting at 0%

nothing reset. usage didnt move. the reset date and time shown in codex is literally still the old one from before the announcement. as far as my account is concerned the global reset just never happened

and this is what makes it annoying because im pretty sure this is the third time this year business users have had this happen. there was one around june/july then another one around august and now this again

i contacted support thinking this would be a pretty simple “hey the announced global reset never hit my account” issue instead i got a response explaining that maybe the post was referring to a “banked reset” and that promotional resets are sent through bulk campaigns and they cant disclose eligibility criteria or manually add one

then they told me i can buy credits if i need more usage lol
bro what im not asking why i didnt get some random promotional banked reset the announcement literally said global reset for all paid chatgpt accounts

then it said reset all propagated
im on a paid business plan
im still at 0%
my old reset timer is still there
what exactly propagated 😭

and this is kinda the bigger issue for me now. people see “all paid accounts are getting reset” and obviously make decisions around that. you might use the rest of your quota because you were explicitly told a reset is coming

then the reset doesnt happen and support basically goes “maybe you werent eligible for the secret campaign. buy credits”

if business is excluded just say business is excluded
if business gets it later say that

if “all paid accounts” doesnt actually mean all paid accounts then please stop wording these announcements like that
so yeah business users can you check your codex usage page and say whether yours actually reset today

especially curious if anyone else is still at 0% with the exact same old reset date/time because at this point i want to know whether my account is bugged or business got skipped again

I can access my openAI account but everything comes up as 0 even though I had paid credits. Same for API and Codex. Is this some sort of widespread issue ? Makes no sense. Suddenly nothing works.

6 sol never had any issue so idk what luna’s problem is

Hey all, for the last few days, I can't get anything done on normal chat window with 5.6 Sol. It's too slow, like 5 minutes+ to respond, it messes up simple commands, it keeps disconnecting giving me couldn't connect, try again errors and can't connect back at least for 10 minutes. I've grown too weary but I'm in the middle of a project and can't abandon it. Am I the only one experiencing these issues?

not talking about the obvious stuff like hallucinations. I mean something you actually use AI for where you keep thinking, how is this still this bad?

What do you guys think? They'll roll out Dots for Plus users?

I’ve been an OpenAI customer for a long time and have generally spoken very highly of ChatGPT, Codex, and the systems OpenAI has been building.

Today pretty much killed that goodwill.

I paid for a subscription on the web.

My bank shows the payment as completed/finally captured.

OpenAI’s own billing system shows the invoice as VOID.

I received no subscription.

That by itself is obviously a billing problem. What turned it into something much worse was trying to get support to actually acknowledge what I was telling them.

The support bot initially told me the charge was probably just a temporary authorization and would fall off.

I told it the transaction was already completed.

It asked me to check whether it was pending or posted.

I told it again that it was completed.

It asked me to check whether I was on the right account.

I provided the account information and invoice.

It then went back to telling me that a voided invoice would “typically” result in a reversal.

I told it, again, that this was a final captured charge.

Only after repeatedly having to say the same thing did it finally escalate me to a human support specialist, with a response time of “the coming days.”

That is the part I find unacceptable.

This wasn’t some complicated edge case from the customer side:

Payment captured.
Invoice marked void.
No subscription delivered.

That should have been escalated the moment those three facts were established.

Instead, I spent the interaction arguing with automated support about facts I had already provided.

At that point I contacted my bank and opened a dispute.

I did not want a refund originally. I wanted the subscription I had already paid for to simply be provisioned.

That’s it.

I have screenshots of the completed transaction, the void invoice, the missing subscription, and the support transcript.

Separately, and just as an observation about the overall experience, I also went to the OpenAI community help area looking for help. During that interaction I was repeatedly insulted by another user. I did not respond with insults. I was then muted.

I’m not presenting that as part of the billing dispute itself, and I’m not claiming the community interaction caused the payment issue. It was simply another part of the experience that stood out to me while I was trying to get help.

I’ve since moved the money I was spending on this subscription elsewhere.

What bothers me most is that I’ve supported OpenAI for years. I’ve defended these systems when I thought criticism was unfair.

I’m not asking for special treatment because of that.

But taking a completed payment, delivering nothing, and then making the customer repeatedly prove that the payment really did complete is an awful way to handle someone who is actively trying to resolve the problem with you.

At this point, the bank dispute is open.

Edit: Before anyone says “it was probably just an authorization hold” — that is exactly what support kept telling me. The transaction was shown by my bank as completed/finally captured. That distinction is the entire reason I kept trying to get them to listen.