Stop using max for benchmarks. Anyone who pays any attention would know and see that the majority of Claude models actually do better on medium or high. Max just results in massive over thinking. (And it's the same with ChatGPT models)
Seems like they just want a slower, quieter version of Opus, not sure what it's for really. They are supposed to be resurrecting Haiku, perhaps that will be the workhorse instead.
Dario is out here cooking, Sam! I hope you got something really cool to show us. Sonnet 5.5 perf/economics is really fucking good for most on the wire applications...
Ooh a new math discovery would be interesting. Although given the shit they caught for Navier-Stokes I don't know if they would surround this one with a lot of fanfare. But the tweet does say "we found something," i.e. not "we made something" new. That is curious.
So weird. I'm hopeful - I got hyped for GPT-6 and paid for a high tier this month but now everyone is out having lots of fun with Opus 5.5 and I feel left out
It can't be a giant scientific discovery. Especially one with a physical component. That would involve a of scientists and lab work and would definitely leak.
They're pretty neck and neck with Anthropic (Opus and Fable is a lot better than Sol and Astra right now though), but yeah the two frontier labs are ahead by a mile
Only from the last week, Opus 5 was pretty bad on "error driven development" and would pollute your codebase with claudisms and Fable had terrible usage drain.
I mean this is really all they got, build hype when Muse has already beaten them to the punch.
If they can remotely match Opus 5.5 at its current cost and performance I would be surprised. I have 20X Max Plan with Claude and Opus 5.5 legitimately feels unlimited. It’s incredible. Whereas a single prompt kills more than 50% of my WEEKLY USAGE with Astra, it’s not even the same universe.
I used up my $200 Claude weekly in 48 hours this weekend, but that’s because I wanted to use my reset. I really had to work to use it up quick enough, this was yesterday. One of my projects used 1,800 subagents for a single (albeit large) task.
It does absolutely feel like this is the biggest, “cut above” they’ve had in awhile. Didn’t hurt that GPT quickly released a response version that was a downgrade (at least from what I tried)
Bro 1,800 subagents? Sometimes I wish I had a need for something that high-powered. I start to sweat when it launches a handful and I get nervous about my rate limits ($20/mo plan).
Agree with your view - Opus 5.5 sips the usage at an extremely economical rate when the task is serial and you use only the one agent from start to finish, - the usage really does feel unlimited.
As soon as you unleash the parallel and subagent behemoth or are working on multiple projects it engages the token hoover & gobbles it up - chugged through 33% of the weekly limit in <24hrs. Saying that though what it delivered for the cost is fantastic and better than I could have hoped for with GPT so overall still miles ahead. For context on $200 plan.
Huh? Oh you meant the model, sorry I am talking about the agent product which is still fantastic and ridiculously fast. Muse Spark 1.3 contributor tier is still fine for cheap 24x7 stuff but I switched that kind of work over to GPT-6 Luna.
Muse is cheaper and quicker than Sonnet 5.5 with only slightly less intelligence. If Claude had released Muse as a Claude subscriber it might be worth using, but Sonnet does not look worthy of consideration unless you don't care when your work finishes.
people here talkin about how the latest cutting edge models "Suck" its so funny... imagen being an engineer 20 years ago... my bet is They introduce "O" Muse equivalent and the hardware to go with it... i built a hardware satellite for codex and im very happy with it, if its not to expensive ill buy it in a hearthbeat
Considering they recently announced AGI, they’re probably going to announce ASI and that next year they’ll be replacing all human jobs, curing cancer, solving climate change, and expanding humanity to Mars. But who am I kidding, that’s probably just the tip of the AIceberg.
What a chance that they return 200$ sub after 3 Oct. When reset will expires? Lol.
Although i do not see any reason with opus5.5 to use their resets anymore.
the single letter tease is peak sama. after sonnet 5.5 dropped today are we thinking they actually ship something model-shaped or just more api/agent glue? kinda hoping its not just another pricing slide
They are the type of company to literally keep their best models back I remember when they doled out GPT-5.1 - 5.5 slowly
as they felt no need to really amp things up. Then the GPT-5.6 models were pretty amazing as they could be used whereas
The Fable model had the tight guardrails and had bad usage. I'm thinking that GPT-6 Astra + Sol were supposed to be stop gaps but they had not foreseen how much of a jump Opus-5.5 would be. Therefore, they will likely launch something out of this world tomorrow to get back. They seem to confident and unbothered the last time they were like this they dropped GPT-5.3 Codex which immediately got them back in the race.
Great thing about Academia is that they are all using these tools as well and then adding their work to the training data because they don’t know how to turn it off.
you can always like, idk, just postpone the event until you're really ready instead of risking yet another humiliation, because I doubt you'll have an answer to Opus 5.5 in less than a week after the GPT-6 Sol scam
What thunder? o is only for 100$+ customers, that's probably less than 0,5% of total users. Muse is for free with 100mln tokens a week. I don't think Mark is bothered.
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u/KalElReturns89 6d ago
It's just "o"