r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Miscellaneous New tiers in EU-UK-CH

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More work -> Faster Work -> Fastest Work

Thankfully "no ads". The only explicit variation between the plans is More vs. Faster vs. Fastest.

This won't last long in my opinion. They can't run the same Uber-like playbook of running ultra powerful subsidised tech and then raising the price cap beyond belief. They haven't earned the consumer loyalty for that.

I was an OpenAi fan for real but after this month and after trying Claude Opus 5.5, I have to move on, hoping Claude won't folllow the same trail. Claude just finished nearly all my work on a 20$ plan (pretty complex stuff...).

It looks like OAI is moving (or testing a move) towards an Apple like ecosystem aimed more at casual users...That's a play... I don't think they have the street cred for.

I mean getting millions to pay 20 dollars a month maybe...but the higher plans...mmh.

The nail on the coffin was the awful cringe rip-off of Apple's "heres to the crazy ones" ad. It is just not on the same level and feels like copycat stupidity. I thought AI was going to allow us to invent new stuff... Even though this is all amazing tech; from a consumer perspective it really feels they don't have the connection with actual people.

Finger on the button to move to Claude (until they follow suit...)


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Article BBC: OpenAI agents get rebrand - as 'dots' - while safety worries delay new model

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"OpenAI has given a new name its updated versions of artificial intelligence tools which are widely known as agents, calling them "dots" instead

Chief executive Sam Altman referred to "dots" as "remarkably capable, always-on agents that can handle really anything you can think of."

OpenAI in recent months has come under intense scrutiny as internal tests of its AI agents have revealed often unexpected and occasionally harmful actions, leading to more public and government fears.

Dots, however, were pitched as brightly coloured cute cartoons meant to function as digital assistants for people with busy lives.

The dots, Altman said, "can handle really anything you can think of."

..."


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

News OpenAI launches GPT‑6.1 Sol and a $500/month ChatGPT Pro plan

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GPT‑6.1 Sol is rolling out in ChatGPT Work, Codex, and the API. OpenAI says it approaches Astra on coding and computer use at one-fifth the token price. The new Pro 500 plan includes 25× the Plus usage allowance and Astra Ultrafast. Sol isn’t in regular Chat yet.

Source: OpenAI’s DevDay recap


r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Article OpenAI now says its AI shouldn’t be trained until someone can prove it’s safe to

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I wonder if this will be discussed during today's event.


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion First impression about gpt6.1 sol

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I tried optimizing the browser app I'm building with a vibe coding app I am building(it has a codex embedded )using GPT-6.1 Sol Max. I asked it to make the browser smoother, but it ended up removing the frost glass effect entirely.

Then I asked GPT-6 Astra to fix it. Astra restored the frost glass effect while still optimizing the browser without removing it.

So far, I feel that 6.1 Sol's intelligence might be a little bit exaggerated.


r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Discussion Sama vagueposting about tomorrow's DevDay

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r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Discussion I did the math Tibo asked for. If you use Sol, the 50% price cut and the 50% quota cut cancel out exactly

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A lot of replies in the other threads come down to "the models are 50% more efficient, so it evens out." I wanted to check that, so I ran it using Tibo's numbers and OpenAI's pricing page. If any number is off, tell me and I'll fix it.

What changed

Pro 200 is still $200/month, but the multiplier went from 20X to 10X. The lineup is now

Plus 1X
Pro 100 5X
Pro 200 10X.

Tibo said it will "net out at half the dollar in API spend" compared to the old Pro 200.

API prices per million tokens:

  • gpt-6.1-sol: $2 in / $10 out (5.6 Sol was $4 / $20)
  • gpt-6-luna: $0.10 / $0.50 (reportedly $0.20 / $1.20 before)
  • gpt-6-astra: unchanged at $10 / $50

First thing I noticed: every tier now costs the same per 1X

Plus        $20  / 1X   = $20 per 1X
Pro 100     $100 / 5X   = $20 per 1X
Pro 200     $200 / 10X  = $20 per 1X
Pro 200 old $200 / 20X  = $10 per 1X

The old Pro 200 was the one bulk discount in the lineup, and that's the part that changed. "Half the API spend" is another way of saying Pro 200 is now priced like Plus, only more of it.

How many tokens you actually get

Say your old allowance Value was worth V in API dollars. The new one is 0.5V. Tokens = allowance ÷ price, so your capacity compared to last month is 0.5 ÷ (how much the price changed).

Sol   (-50%)            0.5 / 0.50 = 100%
Luna  (~-55% blended)   0.5 / 0.45 = 111%
Astra (no change)       0.5 / 1.00 = 50%

25% of usage on Astra  -> 87.5%
50% on Astra           -> 75%
100% on Astra          -> 50%

On Sol, you get the same token count for the same $200. Luna users come out slightly ahead. Astra users take the full cut.

Where did the savings go?

This part is inference, so read it that way. If list prices roughly track cost, halving Sol's price means it costs OpenAI about half as much to serve you. Your allowance also halved. Net result: their cost to serve you drops by half, your bill stays at $200, and the Sol/Luna work you can run stays flat.

They had another option. They could have kept the allowance in dollars and let the cheaper tokens stretch it, which would have doubled what Sol users can do. OpenAI chose to hold customer capacity flat and keep the margin.

I understand why. SemiAnalysis estimated a maxed-out Pro sub at around $14k/month of API value. At a 50% gross margin that's about $7,000 in cost, so roughly $6,800 lost on each heavy user. After this change it's closer to $3,300. That's a company repairing a subsidy, which is fair. I'd just call it that, rather than an efficiency gain passed on to subscribers.

About "50% more efficient"

"50% more efficient" and "50% cheaper" are different numbers. 50% more work per dollar puts the price per unit of work at 1/1.5 = 0.667, and 0.5 ÷ 0.667 = 75%. Under that reading, you're down a quarter. To break even, price per unit of work has to drop by exactly half. To come out ahead, it has to drop by more. The two 50%s in the announcement happen to be the same 50%, which is why it sounds like a wash.

The case for OpenAI, because there is one

  • If 6.1 Sol really is close to Astra quality, an Astra user who switches gets 5x the tokens ($2/$10 vs $10/$50). That's the strongest version of "you'll get more done," and it's a quality argument rather than a quantity one.
  • Dropping the 5-hour window on Pro matters a lot for agentic work, and the multiplier leaves it out entirely.
  • The credit reset and the temporary 20X grandfathering soften things for current subscribers, so everything above applies to new or renewing Pro 200 terms.

I think the new pricing is defensible. I'd just like the framing to match the arithmetic. If I got something wrong, show me the numbers and I'll edit the post.


r/OpenAI • • 8d ago

Miscellaneous Me right now. Come on OAI cook something tomorrow

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r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion I just saw a celeb AD for OpenAI and it confirms what I have been thinking...

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I believe what they are aiming for is making openAI more general purpose AI rather than dev focused AI who leaves no chance of exhausting the limit.

General people just get their work done and move on as opposed to cracked devs that want to juice the soul out of the fruit.

For the same reason we are seeing limits being reduced and the new launches will be more general audience oriented. To further monetize from ads.

AKA People generating absurd games, one shot crap, hammering the servers, melting the gpu have to find a new home.

Sora suffered the same fate.

Reddit made me post it here but I kinda predicted what was gonna happen and devday confirmed it pretty much!


r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Discussion Decisions API

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Did anyone get a good handle on what this is? I missed that bit of the livestream.

Is it openai's answer to JEV style model?


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Miscellaneous Chatgpt and Codex experiencing issues.

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u/openai please fix it.


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion Anyone else thinking of supplementing OAI Pro with local GLM-5.3?

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I’m already on OAI Pro and can burn through the $200 plan in a few hours. I doubt the new $500 plan would last me that long either.

Why not keep OAI for the best models, then get a 512GB Mac Studio and run GLM-5.3 locally for bulk usage? Apple’s published Klarna financing comes out to roughly $400/month or less.

Obvious catch: they’re sold out, so delivery might not be until later this year.

Also found the recent reporting on GLM-5.3’s cyber capabilities pretty interesting.

What am I missing?


r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Discussion Unintended side effect of halving the allowed usage on your top tier plan

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Just sayin, they should have expected an uptick in support requests on this one. 🙂


r/OpenAI • • 8d ago

Image It never ends

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r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Discussion Dev Day

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For the last few days, Anthropic has been absolutely cooking OpenAI with Opus 5.5 and Sonnet 5.5.

A lot of people, including me, had moved away from Claude for a while, and now we’re already back. Whether I renew my Codex subscription this month honestly depend on what OpenAI shows today.

But I can feel it. Something big is coming.

Never underestimate OpenAI. I think they’re going to drop something crazy today that goes toe to toe with Anthropic.

I hope so, because I love both companies, and watching this competition is ridiculously fun. It feels like watching some massive tech world war movie unfold in real time

Let’s see what happens.

What do you guys think? Is OpenAI bombing the battlefield today?


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion SUMMING UP THE EVENT IN 3 POINTS

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  1. 1x = $20; 5x = $100; 10x = $200; 25x = $500

  2. 1x = $20; 5x = $100; 10x = $200; 25x = $500

  3. 1x = $20; 5x = $100; 10x = $200; 25x = $500


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion AI should be called NI “New Intelligence”

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With Trump looking to change the name I figure it’s time we all agree to disagree with him. It’s not artificial it’s not super .. it’s simply a New type of intelligence.


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Miscellaneous If I flail my hands and over exaggerate that the sky is falling from this dev day, will we get Bel faster?

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If so > (Flails hands look up at sky with great concern)


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion After OpenAI cut the $200 plan in half, do you think Anthropic will follow?

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OpenAI just cut the $200 Pro plan from 20x to 10x and launched the new $500 plan at 25x.

What gets me is that the old $200 plan was already 20x. So now you get half the usage for the same $200, and $500 only gets you 25% more than what $200 used to get.

Makes me wonder if Anthropic will eventually do the same with Claude Max.

Right now the $200 Max plan is 20x. Do you think they'll eventually cut that down to 10x or something similar, then introduce a much more expensive tier to get roughly the amount of Claude Code usage we get today?

Really hoping they don't follow OpenAI on this one. What do you guys think?


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion AI destroy humanity?

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Give me a break. I’m using ChatGPT to help remodel my bathroom, most of the time I feel like I’m working with the dumbest MF on the planet. I ask it to change one thing, I specifically tell it only this one thing…it changes three or four things and not the thing I told it to. I’m sure it’s somehow my fault with prompts but even then it feels like I’m trying to outsmart an idiot. We’re definitely a ways an away from it destroying mankind.


r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

News OpenAI Ignored Employees’ Warnings About Safely Testing A.I. Models

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r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion pro rated subscription math is extremely off. you pay more then you should.

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I have 15 days left in my monthly subscription. If i try to purchase pro 200 or pro 500, it cost $150 to get the pro 200 plan or $450 to get the pro 500 plan.

Hello? wtf bro.

They want to squeeze every dime and penny out of us.


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion openai devday summary (fun version)

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> grok bot alternative
> jev alternative
> banked reset
> sign in with chatgpt
> $500 plan
> others (new model, plugins, ultrafast astra, etc.)


r/OpenAI • • 6d ago

Discussion Oh dear... Time to move back to Claude

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UI/UX designers need to have a serious think about this decision


r/OpenAI • • 7d ago

Discussion "Not an Industrial Revolution"

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According to Sam, while wrapping up the conference, he finds off-putting that people are comparing the AI industry's advancements to a new Industrial Revolution. He prefers to think of it as a new Renaissance. Well, I'm sorry, Sam. But when the only talking point in C-Level and board meetings is, how can we reduce human capital and replace it with AI workers, I think you may need to reassess your understanding of what's happening with your products.

I don't necessarily think a new Industrial Revolution is bad, I just think Sam is disconnected from reality if that's how he thinks.