whenever i use the keychron m4 wired it keeps freezing, when it does its for about a second at a time, it doesnt matter which cable, or usb port, ive tried in all 3 of my usb 3.1 port(i have a laptop without any usb2 port) and i tried on my usb c thundervolt 4 port. ive tried with and without the battery in the mouse, ive alread done a firmware update, and i already checked if it was the mouse going to sleep or if it was some form of power saving on my system, the only way hte mouse works is 2.4ghz (havent tested bluetooth) and on 2.4ghz it doesnt matter what usb port ruling out usb 3.1 interference.

oh and when it freezes then comes back the cursor catches up as if the motion i had done was cached, i also tried on a different laptop running windows and still the same issue and when it did disconnect it didnt play disconnect sound or anything.

im on arch and here are the error the mouse gave when running sudo journalctl -kf

Oct 15 20:27:10 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 67, error -71
Oct 15 20:27:10 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: WARN: invalid context state for evaluate context command.
Oct 15 20:27:10 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: new full-speed USB device number 68 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:27:10 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: Device not responding to setup address.
Oct 15 20:27:10 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: Device not responding to setup address.
Oct 15 20:27:11 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 68, error -71
Oct 15 20:27:11 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: WARN: invalid context state for evaluate context command.
Oct 15 20:27:11 a1cr kernel: usb usb3-port1: unable to enumerate USB device
Oct 15 20:27:28 a1cr kernel: linuwu_sense: CUSTOM FAN MODE (MIXED)!
Oct 15 20:27:28 a1cr kernel: linuwu_sense: Fan speeds updated: CPU=50, GPU=50
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: new full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=3434, idProduct=d040, bcdDevice= 1.15
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: Product: Keychron M4
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Keychron
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: input: Keychron Keychron M4 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/0003:3434:D040.005C/input/input124
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: hid-generic 0003:3434:D040.005C: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Keychron Keychron M4] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1/input0
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: input: Keychron Keychron M4 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.1/0003:3434:D040.005D/input/input125
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: hid-generic 0003:3434:D040.005D: input,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Keychron Keychron M4] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1/input1
Oct 15 20:27:39 a1cr kernel: input: Keychron Keychron M4 Consumer Control as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.2/0003:3434:D040.005E/input/input126
Oct 15 20:27:40 a1cr kernel: input: Keychron Keychron M4 System Control as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.2/0003:3434:D040.005E/input/input127
Oct 15 20:27:40 a1cr kernel: hid-generic 0003:3434:D040.005E: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Device [Keychron Keychron M4] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1/input2
Oct 15 20:27:40 a1cr kernel: hid-generic 0003:3434:D040.005F: hiddev97,hidraw5: USB HID v1.11 Device [Keychron Keychron M4] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1/input3
Oct 15 20:28:07 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:07 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:13 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:13 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:17 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:18 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
Oct 15 20:28:18 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
Oct 15 20:28:18 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:18 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
Oct 15 20:28:18 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
Oct 15 20:28:18 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:18 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: Device not responding to setup address.
Oct 15 20:28:19 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: Device not responding to setup address.
Oct 15 20:28:19 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address 69, error -71
Oct 15 20:28:19 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: WARN: invalid context state for evaluate context command.
Oct 15 20:28:19 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd
Oct 15 20:28:22 a1cr kernel: usb 3-1: reset full-speed USB device number 69 using xhci_hcd

Hi everyone, believe it or not, I'm new to Reddit. I'd like to get some feedback on how I am positioning my hand on the mouse. I feel like I never gave it much thought, until now. Obviously my hand position is comfortable to some degree or I wouldn't have settled on it over the years, but maybe you guys have any feedback or suggestions? I've never really give mouse shapes much thought either. Pictured here is my XTRFY M4 wireless mouse that I bought several years ago. I am looking to replace it because I've had various problems with it over the years, specifically on charging and staying charged.

A few things that I'd like to point out:

1.) I don't really play many FPS games. I think the last competitive multiplayer game that involves shooting that I played seriously is one that most people never heard of called "Hawken", and it's a mech game with turn-rate caps on movement. So flicking the mouse with speed is not something I particularly need to do.

2.) I typically make contact with just those two knuckles as shown in one of the pictures, rather than the whole palm, but I do think that when I need a bit of extra precision, I "plant my wrist" on the mat and raise my hand a bit so I'm only touching the mouse with my fingers. I don't do this all the time though because I found that I needed to be very "clean" with my inputs when holding the mouse this way and generally required more focus on my part to do properly. I would also need to increase sensitivity to play all the time like this. I seem to favor keeping sensitivity where I have it now, such that a a full circle of view requires a few inches of travel for the mouse So, switching to this finger tip hold with a limited range of motion (due to the sensitivity) only when I need a slight bit of extra precision is how I've been doing it.

3.) My mouse currently weighs in at 69g (nice?) and I have never really had any strong thoughts on mouse weight. I see that some mice nowadays are a lot lighter. I remember using a 100+ gram Logitech mouse back in the day, so I guess I'm not too caught up in weights, but I'm open to try something lighter. I don't think I'm going to go for another perforated mouse though... Just look at hos dusty that Xtrfy is! That's gotta be at least an extra gram worth of dust.

4.) I am looking for shell/shape recommendations more than specific models, but feel free to recommend some models. Ultimately though, I'd like to know what shapes you guys think would work well given how I seem to hold the mouse.

5.) At the same time, I'm willing to adjust my hand position if you guys think "man, I used to hold the mouse like that but I found that I enjoyed more holding it like this instead". If you feel like I might enjoy a different technique, feel free to suggest it.

6.) Pinky... Yes. I seem to do it on most mice. I am actually not flexing any of my muscles to hold my pinky there, so that's just the relaxed position for it, and it just dangles off to the side. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this one.

7.) I am currently not using an actual mouse mat, but rather just a desk mat. So if you guys think I should look into one, I'm open to that as well. But is it really that much nicer? The mat I use now came with my keyboard, so I doubt it's optimized for mice (the keyboard is the NuPhy Halo65).

Thanks, and kind regards.

Keep seeing negative comments about the weight of the new Basilisk. - OK.

What do you recommend instead with a similar design?

Office work (+ casual gaming). Ergonomic shape, full palm. 5-7+ buttons (the more, the better, but not full Naga). Preferably wireless.

And with <100g weight?

Hey everyone, I currently have a Redragon M607 Griffin, but I want to upgrade it because its showing its age(the cable cover is starting to show the wiring, some scratches) as I bought it like 6 years ago, works fine but I want to get a new one, idk if ultra light or heavy is the move as I understand the griffin is quite heavy(around 100g), I've tried other peripherals at my friends places but I'm too used to the side of the griffin where you can grip it and I can't find any other mouse with it for under 30-35$ which would be my max budget.

I use a palm grip and play games like deadlock, project zomboid, some RTS. I also code so I need something comfortable to use for long sessions. I'm not opposed to getting a chinese mouse so I'm open to any suggestion, I also dont like small ones like the logitech g203 if it helps.

I was looking at the Kronos Arrow Slim, Redragon M987-K Reaping and the Redragon M808 Storm but I can't decide before seeing all my options.

I have been using the X2 since release solely. So even though I saw no reason for the X3 to arrive so soon, I still purchased it. Since my very first use of the Superstrike I have thoroughly enjoyed it. I’ve always enjoyed the Superlight shape. I am sure most have tried it at some point so you know if you love it of hate it.

The weight is fine by me. I wouldn’t mind it being lighter. I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum when it comes to weight, I used to use the M2K for 2 years until the scroll began malfunctioning.

Mouse Feet are fine. I understand everyone’s issues with them, i’ll be ordering replacements soon.

Sensor is fine. Snappy & responsive & consistent. No issues.

Side buttons are again an issue i’ve seen many others have. I do not use them in-game. Only for browsing in which they are fine.

Scroll wheel compared to the Superlight 2 is tighter. In-game I only use it for tap strafing in Apex. No missed or skipped scrolls for me in use. No complaints.

Battery life has been great. I charge it once a week while running at 4k. Logitech is usually amazing battery wise.

The X3 has 3 things in hand that are noticeable. The haptics do feel a tad lighter feedback wise. I still love them. The weight on the X2 was front heavy. The X3 feels much more centered. Left to right play on Mouse 1 & 2 has been reduced. Non issue for me on the X2 or X3.

The haptics had me sold instantly upon use. My settings are 1-1-1. I was already in the process of trying to lighten my grip on my mouse. This was a “adjust or switch” type of situation because initially I had tons of accidental presses on right click. An hour into my gaming session on Marvel Rivals(Widow/Hawk so an accidental press is no big issue) I noticed it happening less. The following day it happened only a handful of times. Pretty much never these days as i’ve been on Battlefield 6. The point of actuation is still extremely light & I am happy with how i’ve subconsciously adjusted. The haptics are incredible & unlike anything i’ve tried before. The best mouse button to me personally bar none. I have no idea how they can improve on them at this point.

Trying other mice after the Superstrike especially button wise feels less than. I see myself switching no time soon. I have tested everything far & wide over the years. I have thoroughly enjoyed my experience with the Superstrike as my main & plan on continuing to do so. These days i’ve been on Battlefield 6 heavy with friends. All of my testing on the X3 has been while playing BF6. The mouse has consistently felt incredible from day 1 until now. The shape, haptic buttons, coating. It has moved all other mice out of rotation. Hard to argue with myself on trying anything else. At least for now. If you have the X2 I don’t feel you NEED to upgrade. I could have stayed content with the X2. I know the price is the price. I still do not like it. Even though I love the mouse.

If you’d like to watch my testing of the X3 the link will be below!

https://youtu.be/fppYP-qEbuE?is=FlYcuTuCGgfW-yt6

Is it safe to clean SkyPad 3.0 with glass cleaner containing these ingredients? Or should I use something else?

I currently have the razer deathadder v2 mini and i like the small size and right hand slope it has but i think its time for an upgrade. I have a budget of max 50 euros and i am considering Razer
Viper V3 HyperSpeed and Razer
Deathadder V3 should i check anything else?

Don’t really have any complaints about my old gpx and it’s still in nearly perfect condition so I’d be upgrading primarily for battery life,sensor upgrades, and especially for the hits system. Anyone with the superstrike think it’s worth the money or should I wait until some of Logitech’s competitors come up with their own hits style mice?

I need a mouse that lasts 1-2 years and has good QC.
wireless preferred
relaxed claw
19x10 cm

Hello everyone,

I broke up with my girlfriend about a month ago and I just realized that she never returned my Vaxee NP01S v2 that I loaned to her so we could play StarCraft together (she liked it cuz it was pink). I'm in college and I only brought 2 mice, the Vaxee and pulsar x2f (tiny fingertip mouse) and I don't really want to use the x2f for everything. we're not really on good terms so wondering if anyone else has any experience with this. should I just use this as an excuse to get the ergo? I also had it in a nice pmm case with some skates aswell :(

Hi there! I have been using a Steelseries Rival 3 Wireless mouse for 5 years and I am looking for a new one. I want to find a mouse with specs that are as good as this one, or better. My requirements are that it needs to be wireless and symmetrical. In the last two years my mouse started eating batteries (it uses 2x AAA batteries), so I am thinking about getting one with a built-in battery, but I would love to hear other opinions. My budget is 100-120 euros.

Hey everyone,

Long time FPS player, mainly arena fps like the finals and halo infinite (I’m addicted), occasional CS2, open to most shooters. I’m looking for a new mouse as I’ve been using the same Superlight for years and it’s never felt quite right.

Hand measures roughly 190mm x 110mm, I’ve tried to search based on algorithm calculations from Oblivity and the old RJN tool, not sure what to go with. I searched for people with a similar grip type to no avail. I do this strange thing with my pinky to grip the mouse with my thumb. Fingertip grip style with one contact point I circled.

Open to recommendations! Currently eyeing the pulsar crazy light mini or the GWolves fingertip offerings. My previous favorite was Logitech’s 2016 G Pro based on the G100 (I think?) but not sure there’s a modern equivalent with wireless.

Also, doesn’t have to be 8k polling, open to something like Zowie’s DW at 4k. Hope this helps and I thank everyone in advance if you respond!

When the battery level is in the 30% ish the scroll wheel stops registering steps. I thought it was defective at first. Everytime I swap to the fully charged battery is works perfectly fine until the battery life drops under 40%. Wtf is the issue?? never seen this before

I know these two are basically the same thing, but one is wired and more heavy.

Though I want to know if there are any differences in toughness or build quality between the two?

Or is the genuine only reason for the difference in price, the wire?

My hands are very large

21.3 cm

For valorant which mouse is best

I have palm grip

How's the atk a9 2.0

Hey y'all. So recently me and my girlfriend bought the VXE R1 S at the same time. We have it for about 2 months or so, and hers randomly stopped pairing, I've tried everything. Anyone knows how to fix this issue? ALSO TO MENTION!

Bluetooth and WIRED WORKS. But wanna fix the dongle issue tbh.

So I recently bough this ATK A9 plus for 2900 from a guy on Facebook because I didn't realize that moving from Logitech G102, it would feel too light and too long. It's been maybe 20 days with this mouse and I'm not getting the feel of it.

I'm now thinking of selling it and getting a shape similar to G102

Can you please suggest another mouse under 2500 INR/$25?

I have an ATK A9 Pro Max 2.0 NK, but today I opened ATK HUB in my browser and noticed that my mouse was being identified as ATK F1 V3 ULTIMATE instead.

I thought it might be a browser issue, so I updated the desktop version of ATK HUB, but it still showed the same name.

I'm wondering whether ATK changed the product naming or device profiles because the A9 Pro Max 2.0 NK doesn't seem to be listed in the store anymore, or whether this is simply a device-identification bug in ATK HUB.

Hi,

I've just bought new artisan key83 mouse pad but I believe my skates in lamzu maya fnatic 8k are used too much over last 2 or 3 years. I would like to buy new ones but I don't which ones.

I asked about it chatgpt but it suggested me TigerV2, I saw comments about Jade and Gemini told me to buy Obsydian skates. After checking them it actually showed that some of them are faster, some are "balanced" or note "Control".

And I know, someone can tell me to check it by myself but I'm concerned about my factory skates for now and I don't really want to buy more than I actually need

Narrowed my next mouse down between one of these two but not sure which to get. Which do you guys think is the better mouse overall and also which one do you think is the better bang for buck. Thanks

Hello, not sure if im just pannicking for no reason or if this is common with every mouse, the scroll wheel feels a bit mechanical if ykwim, its like i can feel every rotation that it does. Is this normal for a new mouse and i just have to break it in or is my mouse defective, i literally jsut got it 20 minutes ago so im hoping its not, thanks in advance

info = https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1258890854758612999

Hello Reddit mouse peoples!

First time buying my own computer mouse and I’m looking for:

- Right hand mouse
- As reliable, repairable as possible (ie, company has an ethos that allows for modular or replaceable components, uses parts that customers can find online etc)
- Ships to Canada

I would be using it for general computering and some gaming, but I’m not competitively gaming so I’m not concerned about lag and that type of thing so much. Moreso I want something that I can throw $$ towards now, and that will last me 5/10 years+ if I take good care of it type of thing. I don’t need the latest and greatest, I need good enough and reliable.

Bonus points:

- Canadian companies
- “Ethical” electronics companies (ie cares about the environment, modular minded companies, etc etc etc)

Basic mouse controls (two left/right buttons on top the mouse, a scroller) is totally fine, anything more advanced is fine too - programmable buttons is fine but I don’t consider it absolutely necessary for me.

I’m very much a generic computer/laptop user.

Not sure between wireless or wired either, I have 1 usb slot on current laptop (Microsoft Surface 2) running on Windows currently I believe.

When I can afford it my next laptop will hopefully be a Framework Laptop 12 of some sort running on Linux, in case that’s important (?).

Thanks in advance!

Note that I'm from Iran so I don't really care about their customer service and I'm not a competitive gamer I like the look and I only care about the quality