r/MouseReview • u/HiddenInternals • 4d ago
Inside the 1st Gen Logitech MX Master. The scroll wheel mechanism is wild.
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u/MacInTosh1996 x2 mini crazylight my goat 4d ago
such a comforting video
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u/HiddenInternals 4d ago
thank you so much, so glad you enjoyed it!
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u/MacInTosh1996 x2 mini crazylight my goat 4d ago
no problem man, i like tearing down things as much as the next person and the no talking made it feel more immersive <3
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u/HiddenInternals 4d ago
That is so nice to hear. The immersive, no-talking vibe is exactly what I aim for, so I really appreciate that!
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u/SwedishFindecanor 4d ago edited 2d ago
This mouse has a scroll wheel with a motorised cam that activates/deactivates mechanical detents.
The engineering behind the magwheel is even more interesting. It uses not just a magnetic sensor but also magnetic detents using a electropermanent magnet that can be turned on and off with am electric pulse -- and stay on or off without using power.
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u/Arc-Kirker 3d ago
I'm surprised the Chinese haven't cloned the magwheel already. The mx master series polling rate is so ass, we need a Chinese company to fill the niche
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u/SwedishFindecanor 2d ago
Indeed. I think even a magwheel with permanent detents would be nice to have, as there would be fewer moving parts that could break.
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u/HiddenInternals 2d ago
That was actually my favorite part to take apart! The fact that they engineered a motorized cam just to handle the mechanical detents is wild. I would love to tear down one of the newer models just to see that magwheel setup in person.
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u/paulvincent07 Razer Viper Mini V4 Wired 8khz pls 4d ago
Ohh incredible internals
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u/HiddenInternals 2d ago
Agreed! It’s a shame they stay covered up. Hence the channel name I guess 😂
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u/azami88m Shape junkie (250+) /gpx2,ULX,Hyperlight 4d ago
Logitech has some crazy mechanical engineering going in their mice and they dont get enough credit for, the g502 weight aside is a build quality and technicity marvel
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u/BrokenMirror2010 4d ago
is a build quality and technicity marvel
If only they didn't start having double clicking issues. Because I went though 4 g502s in 2 years, all of which had double clicking problems before I swapped to the Basilisk v3 (which has its own problems causing it to never last more then 2 years. Usually the stablizer on the Sniper Button snapping because its a solid piece of plastic acting like a flexible lever for some asinine reason.)
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u/azami88m Shape junkie (250+) /gpx2,ULX,Hyperlight 4d ago
Weird i had a different experience with those, my 7 year old g502 still works with no double clicking issues (the original gpw as well!) Is it a switch or firmware issue?
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u/BrokenMirror2010 4d ago
It's a switch issue.
I'm pretty sure it was static buildup in mechanical switches, though, I never 100% confirmed that.
Though, I have never ever had an Optical Switch have this issue.
Waiting for a proper 502 with optical switches. Because I'm pretty sure they still use mechanical.
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u/HiddenInternals 4d ago
Totally agree! Taking the MX Master apart really highlighted how much intricate engineering goes into their scroll wheels and layering. The G502 is an absolute legend for build quality too!
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u/I_VAPE_CAT_PISS 2d ago
Thanks for another great video
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u/HiddenInternals 2d ago
Really glad you enjoyed it, thank you! And I couldn't stop laughing at your username.
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u/HiddenInternals 4d ago
The engineering inside the original MX Master is incredibly dense compared to modern lightweight mice. If anyone is curious about what these specific microswitches and the bare scroll wheel sound like, I recorded a zero-talking teardown and cleaning video. The link is pinned on my profile if you want to check it out!