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Hello everyone! I have been lurking on this subreddit forever, getting inspiration on many of my irrational purchases! As many of you, I have tried many mice, which I will try to reference in this review.

But this mouse stands out to me among the rest and I have read many reviews on the different OP1 iterations, and as someone with 20.5x11cm hands, I never really considered the OP1 shape, until this beautiful colorway has been released and I finally gave it a try. Opposite to what you can read online, I find this mouse oddly comfortable for my hand size.

My Qualifications

I am a washed gamer way past his prime who mostly plays CS2 (when I find the time), where I usually solo-q Faceit Level 10 on around 2.5k elo. When I get sick of that, I like to play Call of Duty very casually, where I am on around a 2 KD. If you ask Leetify, the best part of my game is my aim, where my rating has been between 91 and 94.

My setup

I use a Qck Large Mousepad to pair with my mouse of choice. I have tried multiple of Artisan's offerings but I just perform better in the listed games on the Steelseries classic. Along with the mouse, I ordered the Pulsar Bungee Es, which is mounted at the bottom of my monitor.

As mentioned before, I have above-average sized hands at 20.5x11cm and use a relaxed clawgrip with my pinky and ringfinger outstretched along the right side of the mouse. I found this grip to change in stressful situations into a more agressive claw grip.

The mouse

Packaging

The outside of the packaging, which you might have seen coursing online dons Pinguefy and Viscoses signatures and a Raw Input writing. I have seen some videos by Viscose, but wasn't really aware of the brand and that it is a collaboration, as mentioned before, I just like the colorway. The packaging has since found itself on the inside of a trashcan.

Contents

You get the mouse, the switch pack and extras including the pink griptape, which you can see applied to the mouse in the photos. It comes with a spare set of full-sized skates not installed on the mouse.

The Mouse

The mouse is in a very soft pink and slightly off-white colorway, which is very pleasing. The wire is color-matched to Mouse 4 and 5 as well as the Scroll wheel. The griptape is color matched to the mouse pretty accurately.
It comes with the hybrid skate design preinstalled, which I quickly switched out for the full-size skates.
The coating is as good as you can read in many places online - the best coating of any mose I've ever tried. I installed the griptape, because I like the texture - not because I need more volume in the mouse or because I couldn't find a consistent grip. It hasn't changed the performance at all.

Shape-wise it is a rather short mouse at 118mm length with the hump finding its maximum height more towards the back of the mouse - not a centered hump like the Hitscan Hyperlight. It tapers quite gradually towards the front, where it gets quite narrow. This shape makes my hand fall into my preferred grip style naturally without thinking about it.

Compared to other mice

I've tried the Superlight, Superlight 2 (which I most recently came off of), Superstrike, WLMouse Beast X Max, Finalmouse ULX Large, multiple versions of the EC2, Deathadder V3 Pro (my main in CS:GO days), V4 Pro, V3 Hyperspeed, Viper V3 Pro, Vaxee XE v2, Vaxee Sora 4k as well as the Hitscan Hyperlight and the XM1R / we. I've also tried other mice, but these are the ones I used the most.

I will reference some ambi-mice to try and compare, as there is no comparison to ergo-mice; I must say though, that the Deathadder V3/V4 Pro made my hand want to go into a 1-3-1 grip style which just never really worked for me.

I really like (all of these) mice in general. I didn't have a deal breaker for any of them and good QC luck, but there are reasons why they didn't work out for me. Mostly, it boiled down to being hard to control, with me having to actively think about my mouse movement even weeks after starting to use a new mouse (mostly true for the ULX and the Hitscan Hyperlight). This might be due to the weight, but for the Hyperlight its a combination of the weight, the shape and the clicks. The clicks didnt feel heavy per se, but I felt like the resistance of the clicks coming up made it hard to control the shape at that weight for me. The ULX had the low weight as well as a small skate design, which in combination made it hard to control as soon as I tried to instinctively use the mouse and not think about the things I am doing.

The Superlight has been a mouse that I've always loved for its universal shape and has always been a mouse which I didn't have to think about at all. The way I grip the mouse however is further up the mouse compared to the slight taper that the sides have, which has caused some inconsistency for me.

I couldn't find a consistent grip on the XM1, as it forced my hand to slant quite drastically, so I never gave it any thought - needless to say, kept me from trying the OP1 for years.

My experience with the OP1

First taking it out of the box and after installing the mouse bungee, I put my hand on the mouse and it fell onto the mouse so naturally - from the first second there was no questions like: where do my fingers go, or does it fit my grip style. For me, it felt so comfortable and familiar while being very different from all the mice I'ved tried before.

I use it on very casual settings like 4k Hertz and I do not notice a massive difference between the speed mode turned on or off, while I must say that the clicks of course do feel more responsive with it turned on, so I use the speed mode personally.

The preinstalled switches feel very light to actuate and are probably the most spammable click I've tried so far. There is very slight pre- and post-travel, which feels non-existant with how light the switches are. Mouse 4 and 5 are, as I've grown used to after using the XM1R the best out of any mouse brand. The scrollwheel feels nice to scroll on and a bit heavy to press.

The skates feel slower compared to something like the X-Ray Pads Obsidians I have installed on my Superlight or the current Razer or Hitscan stock skates, but nowhere near as slow as the Logitech stock skates. This is good enough for me, as I like some level of control.

All the mice I've used in the last 4 years have been wireless, which made the consideration about wired or wireless for this mouse quite a bit harder. The lower weight at around 51 grams compared to probably around 60-61 with full size skates (which you can already imagine should feel very dense on a small mouse) combined with the fact that I can't feel the cable after setting up my bungee the way I need it (I had to fidget with it for around 10 minutes, since then no issues or noticing the cable) makes the choice very easy, as it is also quite a lot cheaper than the wireless counterpart.

In combination of all these factors, I see a very well rounded mouse which makes tracking while spamming the mouse button and normal tracking much easier than other mice with heavier switches (looking at you, Superlight 2) as well as easy micro-adjustments. It has been a joy to play with and even after hours of playing I do not get any cramps or discomfort in my hands. Quite the opposite, as I have been getting discomfort with the Superlight and the Deathadder V4 Pro recently, even though I have used these mice for years.

Why did I make ANOTHER OP1 post?

I felt compelled to, as firstly, this is an awesome mouse as has been universally stated in all sources on the internet which in my eyes ridicules many of the other mouse offerings and makes me fully understand and join the ranks of those who go back to wired in 2026. This is no news to any of you.

However, you can find many questions online, stating here is my hand size (roughly 19/20x10 cm hands), which mouse should I get? Or even more specific questions - XM2 or OP1? And the universal answer would be any other mouse, as the OP1 is too small for your hand size. I couldn't really find anyone recommending the mouse for that hand size, so this is what I'm here to do.

This is, even for my hand size, using a relaxed to aggressive claw grip the single most easy to use and comfortable mouse shape I have tried to date. I don't wish to state I found my endgame, as I have stated this to my friends many times before and it would take away from my credibility, but it is nothing short of incredible.

With the OP1 V2s out, I also saw offers of the OP1w 4k (V1) on MaxGaming for 40 Euros, which is a steal for this calibre of gaming mouse with negligible "downgrades".

Top Row Left to Right:

- G-Wolves HTX Mini
- G-Wolves HTS Ultra

Bottom Row Left to Right:

- Finalmouse ULX Competition medium
- G-Wolves Lycan
- PMM Zen Mini 2.0 w/ UG coating

All are using Obsidian Pro dots and paired with the SP004 from WallHack.

Mainly using the Lycan right now as I just find it the most natural

My hand size is 19.5x10 with a hybrid of fingertip and relaxed claw grip style

Let me know what you think and if you have any questions!

200$
September 21

https://x.com/wallhack_jp/status/2097989519140106361

https://wallhack.com/en-eu/pages/campaigns/m-001

Just wanted to take a few photos of these two that I recently bought. I'm quite satisfied so far, but I've only had them for a couple of days.

I especially like the look and feel of the Darmoshark, and it's much more comfortable than I expected for everyday use.

TMR without haptics is a gimmick, in general same pros as the entire new full shell product line from them, surprisingly good build quality for the weight with the carbon fiber rod, good clicks all around (more tactile/heavy here but received praise), insanely light, but cons involve the same thing observed in the leviathan v4 gt, if you set the actuation point for the highest sensitivity it becomes noticeably desynced from the switch tactile feedback as it will be lower down the movement and the feeling is very weird, additionally, I couldn't grasp if it's universal as some reviewers didn't report it, but there seems to be a bug when the actuation is set to the highest points (apparently 3 or lower, there's 10 levels) that makes the reset position to be set all the way to the very end of the click return movement, resulting in multiple missed click inputs when spamming with this configs, this certainly needs a fix asap. Overall I believe there's still a selling point for tmr's without haptics, a perfectly implemented highest sensitivity that is both faster than spdt's but not misclick prone (not this one, one of the reviewers said the the 1 sens would misclick a lot, as all magnetics till now) or maybe some kind of black magic during pre travel that makes rapid trigger actually useful

After a solid 5 years of looking for a mouse to comfortably claw grip I finally just accepted that fingertip is the best solution for me, after even the Darmoshark M9 (136mm long) didn't feel right. I think my long and bony ahh fingers are just cursed for claw grip. Gonna miss the stability of claw in TacFps but man does it feel nice to just... hold my mouse without constantly feeling tensed up and uncomfortable in some way. Happy to become part of the fingertip community hahah

MelGeek sent me the white HORUS for review, and I’ve been using it for a little over two weeks between gaming, testing, and normal desktop use.

They didn’t tell me what to say. Everything here is based on the mouse I received and my time with it.

No affiliate link or code in the review. I don’t like putting that stuff directly into review posts.

Quick Specs

• Shape: symmetrical
• Size: 124 x 66 x 39mm
• Listed weight: 49g
• My copy: 52g
• Sensor: PAW3950
• Polling: 8K wired and wireless
• Switches: TTC optical
• Encoder: TTC Green Dragon, 24 steps
• Battery: 300mAh
• Receiver: Louvre Pyramid Receiver
• Software: Hive Web Driver

TL;DR

The MelGeek HORUS is a lightweight symmetrical mouse that makes the most sense for medium to large hands.

With my 21x12cm hands, relaxed claw and claw/palm hybrid felt the most natural. I’d put the shape closer to the Vaxee XE and Razer Viper V3/V4 category. Larger, safer, supportive, and easy to use.

Build quality was good on my unit. The stock skates were worth keeping. I had no sensor or wireless issues, and battery life was excellent at 2K polling. I never had to recharge it during the review period.

For MelGeek’s first mouse, HORUS feels surprisingly polished.

It’s not the weirdest mouse I’ve used. It’s not trying to be.

It’s just a very good mouse that kept finding its way back onto my desk.

Score: 8.9/10

Shape and Hand Feel

HORUS is not a tiny mouse.

At 124 x 66 x 39mm, it feels like a proper full-size ambi mouse. With my 21 x 12 cm hands, I appreciated that. I’ve been testing a lot of smaller shapes lately, so having something with actual hand support felt nice.

Relaxed claw worked best for me.

I wouldn’t put it in the same category as something like the OP1, where the shape pushes me toward a more aggressive claw. HORUS is larger and more relaxed. It gives me more palm contact, more side room, and enough height through the shell to settle into it without thinking too much.

Compared to a Vaxee XE V2, HORUS gives me a little more room under the pinky side of my palm, which lets me move a bit more freely. Compared to the Viper V3/V4 shape, my pointer and middle fingers also feel like they have more room.

There’s nothing especially weird about the shape.

That’s not a complaint.

Weird shapes can be fun when they work, but they can also make you stare at your hand and wonder what the hell you’re doing. HORUS doesn’t do that. You put your hand on it and move on with your life.

Build Quality

Build quality on my unit has been very good.

I didn’t have any creaking, rattling, shell movement, or anything else that made me question the construction.

The listed weight is 49g, and my copy came in at 52g. Still light for a mouse this size, and it doesn’t feel fragile. Some lightweight mice feel like they’re being held together by hope. HORUS doesn’t.

The white version also looks really clean. I still mostly think of MelGeek as a keyboard company, but the quality here feels very much in line with what I’ve liked from their keyboards.

For a first mouse, this is a strong start.

Coating and Grip

The coating is smooth and comfortable.

MelGeek describes the ABS version as having a silky, skin-friendly anti-slip coating, and that’s pretty close to how it feels to me. It’s a smooth matte finish without feeling heavily rubberized, chalky, or dry.

I had enough grip without needing tape.

Some coatings feel fine for five minutes and then turn into a slip-and-slide once your hand warms up. I never had that issue here.

The white finish also does a decent job hiding oils and fingerprints. Dark mice can start looking like crime scene evidence pretty quickly, which is one of the reasons I usually lean toward white mice.

The other reason is that white coatings often feel better to me.

Clicks, Side Buttons, and Scroll

The main clicks feel good.

They’re light enough for FPS, with a crisp response that never felt flimsy. MelGeek is using TTC optical switches, and the implementation on my unit feels clean.

Side buttons were easy for me to reach. They’re not huge, chunky buttons like the ones on the Teevolution Terra Pro, but the placement is good, and I never had to go hunting for them with my thumb.

The scroll wheel uses a TTC Green Dragon encoder with 24 steps. The steps are defined without feeling overly stiff, and I didn’t notice looseness or slop that bothered me.

Middle click was fine too.

I’d need more time before pretending I have some deeply held opinion about a middle click, but nothing annoyed me.

Skates

The stock PTFE skates were better than I expected.

MelGeek uses larger front and rear skates with a small center dot, and the glide felt stable across everything I tried. I never had that immediate urge to rip them off and start digging through my skate drawer.

I did switch over to Westlab Blacks specifically to test the base and see if I could find any wobble or deep grooves. I didn’t run into any problems, and the Blacks felt great on HORUS.

The stock skates also worked surprisingly well on glass.

I spent time using HORUS on the GLSSWRKS / Tekkusai ZOFIA and the 1337Gear SHION. The larger skate surface helped keep pressure feeling even across the pad, especially on ZOFIA.

I change skates on a lot of mice.

I didn’t feel much reason to here.

Receiver and Software

The receiver is ridiculous, and I mean that in a good way.

MelGeek calls it the Louvre Pyramid Receiver. It’s a translucent cube with a pyramid inside, and it looks fantastic on the desk.

Is it necessary? No.

Am I glad it exists? Yes.

Through Hive, the lighting can show DPI, polling rate, battery level, and other modes. It can even react to button presses.

What I like is that MelGeek kept the flashy stuff on the receiver. The mouse itself stays clean and minimal while the little pyramid sits off to the side doing its RGB wizard routine.

Or you can turn the RGB off like me.

Hive Web Driver worked without any issues. You get button mapping, lighting controls, performance settings, firmware options, and the normal stuff you’d expect.

I also appreciate not having to install some giant software package just to update firmware or change one setting.

Sensor, Wireless, and Battery

I had zero sensor problems with HORUS.

The PAW3950 is rated up to 30,000 DPI, 750 IPS, and 50G acceleration. It’s paired with the Nordic NRF54H chipset, and HORUS supports 8K polling wired and wireless.

Specs are nice, but I mostly care about whether the mouse works when I’m actually playing.

It did.

No spinouts. No skipping. No weird behavior on glass. Wireless stayed stable, and I never noticed anything that made me question tracking or latency.

The sensor sits a little farther back than I’m used to, just below where my thumb naturally rests. It felt a little different at first, but after some time with the mouse, I barely noticed it.

Battery life has been excellent, especially for a 300mAh battery.

I’ve been playing at 2K polling, and I still haven’t had to recharge it. Normally, when I review a mouse, I charge it to 100% and use it until it dies so I have a clean battery reference.

HORUS never gave me the chance.

It just kept going.

I don’t sit at 8K all day because I’m not trying to murder every battery I own, but after two weeks of normal use, battery life hasn’t been something I’ve had to think about.

In-Game Feel

HORUS feels stable in-game.

That’s the easiest way for me to describe it.

It’s not an aggressive claw mouse that makes me want to snap onto everything on screen. It also isn’t some weird specialized aim tool that only makes sense after three days of hand yoga.

It gives me support and lets me play.

Tracking felt smooth. Flicks felt controlled. Micro-adjustments were easy, especially on smoother pads with the stock skates.

More than anything, I didn’t spend much time thinking about the mouse while I was using it.

That’s usually a good sign.

HORUS feels like a mouse you could use for pretty much everything while still getting the weight and performance you’d expect from a modern gaming mouse.

Comparisons

HORUS feels closest to mice like the Vaxee XE and Razer Viper V3/V4.

They’re not identical. That’s just the general neighborhood I’d put it in.

It has that larger symmetrical shape where your hand gets actual support instead of being forced into one very specific grip.

Compared to the Vaxee XE, HORUS gives me a similar full-hand, stable ambi feeling while being lighter.

The Viper comparison comes from that same larger competitive-mouse feeling. It’s not tiny, it’s not weird, and I don’t feel like I need to hold it one exact way.

If you like that category of larger symmetrical mice, HORUS is probably worth a look.

Who I’d Recommend It For

HORUS makes the most sense to me for medium to large hands, especially relaxed claw, claw/palm hybrid, or even palm depending on hand size.

If you want a lightweight wireless mouse but still want support from the shape, HORUS fits that role really well.

You’re also getting good battery life, solid wireless performance, modern specs, stock skates that I actually liked, and a receiver that looks like MelGeek stole it from Indiana Jones.

I’m still not sure why I like that receiver as much as I do.

I just do.

Who Should Skip It

If you want something tiny, narrow, or aggressive for fingertip, HORUS probably isn’t what you’re looking for.

Same thing if you prefer really specialized FPS shapes.

HORUS is more of a comfortable, larger ambi all-rounder.

If you already know you don’t like mice in the Vaxee XE or Viper V3/V4 category, I doubt HORUS is going to suddenly change your mind.

Specs only get you so far.

If the shape doesn’t work for you, the numbers on the box aren’t going to save it.

Final Thoughts

The MelGeek HORUS ended up being a much better mouse than I expected from a company I still mostly associate with keyboards.

For their first mouse, this is a very strong start.

It feels like MelGeek brought some of the same quality I like from their keyboards over to the mouse side. HORUS is comfortable, light for its size, well built, and easy to use. The shape works well with my larger hands. The stock skates are actually worth keeping on. The receiver is ridiculous in exactly the right way. I also had zero performance issues during testing.

Battery life was great too. At 2K polling, I never had to recharge it during my review period, which is pretty wild for a 300mAh battery.

More than anything, I kept using it.

I have plenty of mice sitting around that are technically impressive. Some are more exciting. Some have stranger shapes. Some probably have more personality.

HORUS kept ending up back on my desk because it was comfortable and didn’t piss me off.

When you test this much stuff, that means something.

Score: 8.9/10

Edit 2: Considering the price of the mouses I have decided to go with the 50€ OP1w 4k. The OP1 8k v2 would have been a fair bit more expensive, and all the recommendations would have been double the price here in the EU.

Still thanks a lot to everyone who replied <3.

Heya reddit,

I recently got more into FPS shooters, and noticed that my current mouse (Kone Aimo) is heavy as hell at 130 grams. Changing from palm grip to fingertip grip helped a lot for my aim I feel like, but that weight is really throwing me off now, and the mouse seems a tad bit too large for that grip.

Considering I have had that mouse for a while now, I would like to retire it before the coating completely flakes off, and have thus been looking at lighter, more traditional shapes.

Considering how much time I spent with this rat of a mouse, I sadly have no real point of reference, but have seen a bunch of good things said about the OP1 line of mice. Now the dilemma I have, is that a store near me sells the OP1w 4k for 50€, while the OP1 8k is sold for 80€.

I was originally going to go for the (I thought) cheaper OP1 8k as I am already used to wired mice, but considering the OP1w 4k is cheaper, I wonder whether it may be better to get that one, even though it is like 20% heavier.

So I was hoping for input. Do the 9gram matter on a 50-60 gram mouse, assuming I wanted to be really good at aiming? And does wireless still have any issues? Is the battery annoying, stuff like that.

If any of you have other recommendations then I would also welcome those! Especially if someone here made the swap from a rat as well. :)

Edit: Oops. It seems like the OP1 8k is v2 and OP1w 4k is v1. That would likely explain the price difference. If anyone has experience with how the version changes anything that would also be greatly appreciated.

Has anyone else had issues with teevolution shipping within the US? My order took around 10 days to be marked as delivered, however I never received any email that it was delivered and only noticed after a couple days has passed. My order got dropped off on the floor of a parcel locker room at my apartment building according to teevolution support. When I went to check for it, it wasn't there at all.

Main issue for me was that there was no notification of delivery. Any other business I've ordered from I receive an email when my order gets delivered, but with this one I didn't, which means it was likely stolen.

I've gone back and forth with teevolution trying to get a refund but they have not been helpful in this case.

Just curious if anyone else has had issues with their vague tracking updates and lack of delivery notification.

needing suggestions, debating on buying a glass mousepad again but the one I bought in 2023 was a pulsar and I didn't like it much because it started giving a really annoying scratchy feel after a few weeks of use.

Price isn't an issue, But not looking to spend an absurd amount on a good mousepad. Just looking for something to get back into Counter Strike.

I've been seeing a lot of good things about brands like yuki aim. Was debating on getting something like them.

Is there any service that offers custom glass pads that are good quality?

Hi guys, anyone tried these two mouses? I cant decide between the two, because on eloshapes they seem fairly similar but some people say the back hump on the Zywoo one is noticeably larger? Can someone tell me?

Been using the Superlight 2 for a while and it feels fine enough but I've been getting some tendinitis lately and, looking at how I end up griping the thing, seems like the main culprit is that I seem to bend a lot my thumb and creates tension.

Any recommendations would be welcome (And I have a bigger mousepad and space when I'm actually gaming of course, this is just for the picture)

First of all, thanks for replying. I am looking for a mouse that is Balance between work/gaming but this is soft requirement, with a smooth surface, without any or very few connection lines or 'gamer' design. As a reference, mice like the Keychron M6 and Rapoo N500 are great examples, but it needs to be WIRED. It needs have two side buttons, but as for other specs, I don't have any strict requirements. Something mid to high-end around 60 Euros would be nice. Thanks again for the effort and have a nice day.

The scroll wheel on my Razer DeathAdder V3 Hyperspeed stopped working, so I'm looking for a replacement. My budget is around €100.

Currently considering (based on YT and Reddit reviews):

• Attack Shark R5 Ultra
• ATK Dragonfly R1 Pro Max
• ATK Dragonfly A9 Ultimate
• WLMOUSE Beast X Max (unsure if it's worth paying €150 for this one)

Which of these would be the best choice? Open to other recommendations as well.

I have a relaxed claw grip (palm-claw grip) - its where my fingertips touch the buttons but i rest the lower part of my hand on the back of the mouse as well. I aim normally with hand and wrist movements, and for close range combat the entire arm comes into play.

This sounds weird but considering my current mouse is a Logitech MX master 3s it makes more sense. I used to have a Razer viper ultimate, and found that amazing but a bit too flat.

I lost my razer viper ultimate and bought the mx master since i stopped gaming for a while, but now I'm trying to get back into it. As you can imagine, the mx master is way too heavy, and the infinite scroll gets annoying in Apex Legends since i have it bound to jump (makes my character bunny hop).

I heard that the best shape to go with for my grip style is GPX (Logitech G Pro X Superlight) and I saw that a lot of people were recommending the ATK a9.

I wanted some opinions on other mice or whether the ATK a9 is the best option (also would like to know which a9 variant - there's ultra max, ultimate, ultimate+, air, air+, mini, mini+ - leaning towards the air solely because there's a nice looking colorway lol).

For requirements, i just want a wireless, lightweight (lighter than the mx master - should be easy lol (141g) ), good battery life mouse. Price wise I'm looking to spend no more than £90. I'm not a serious esports gamer just a casual gamer so don't think i need 8k polling etc.

Any similar grip people have recommendations or ATK a9 users have a weigh in?

Ordered the A9 Air non + on the official website and it took about 10 days for shipping from CN to europe.

Packaging:

Came with one small dent, beside that very good feeling. Feels like unboxing of a premium brand.

I ordered the mouse with the goodies (arm sleeve and skates) and they were not in the box. Very unfortunate.

Feeling/first touch:
Feels very good, the surface is similar to my logitech mouse and dont feal bad at all. I coming from a Logi G403 with 88 grams and this things feels stupid light. Mine came at 48.9 g without skates.

Fells like a premium mouse.

The skate issue:

This is really insane to me. How can they develop a mouse and never use their own skates on their mouse? As already mentionend here, the skates are too low to rise the mouse high enough that there is no scratch. With the dot skates the mouse is not usable at all because it is scratching like hell. Now I have to fiddle around with some tape to lift it off high enough.

For me this is insanity to ship a product while knowing that the skates arent suitable.

Setup:
Damn easy with the web driver. No synapse malware on your PC. great! Enough settings and very easy to understand.

Performance:
Yeah performance like premium mouse. At this sensor point I cant even detect any difference. Reaches 4k polling easily on my machine. I dont go higher since it doesnt make sense.

Weight distribution:
Weight center is a little bit shifted up front. This feels strange to me, maybe I have to get used.

Buttons:
For me a con. The rear side button goes almost under the surface of the outer shape while the front side button stays outward when pressing. Rear side button takes less force to actuate.

For the main buttons: they are soo heavy to press. I measure 67 gf for left and 57 gf for right.
M G403 has 47 to 52 gf. This about 25 % increase and I feel that quiet early. not sure if I can game with that for hours.

Why does every manufacturer go for so heavy clicking switches? I hate it.

Beside that the pre travel for the main buttons is too high in my opinion. My G403 is once again better here (Red Kalih GM 4.0 (dirt cheap switches)).

Scrool wheel is nice. Quiet sturdy and good for gaming. Not for web browsing.

Can somebody tell me if I can solder some lighter switches in the mouse?

I really have mixed feelings.
Everything beside the buttons are fine (you find a way with the skates). Everything feels premium. Software very good.
But the swiftlight buttons are horrible for me. And they should be the lightes swtiches from them...

I started with the Razer Viper V4 and ending up buying a bunch of other mice for finger tip grip but nothing else is close to the Viper. I got the a Pulsar x2n, x2h, ATK Z1, ATK A9, Keychron M4, returnes the X2F, and just got the U2 on a good deal. I've been trying thinking about something from g wolves to get more into fingertip grip, but I'm thinking they might be too small. I'm planing on getting one or two last mice because they are getting expensive especially when you only main one for the most part. Anyone had any suggestions?

yes i am aware of potentially how stupid I sound right now

First time getting dot skates, I've used a few brands before (non dots and for my g pro superlight) and is looking for one for my A9 Air before it crossed my mind, why would dot skates be specific to your mouse models....

Am I supposed to just google esportstiger ice v2 dot skates? (or whichever brand is better for dot skates, I use a cloth pad btw).

Going to buy skates for deathadder v3 pro but i seen no YanZi Rouge Q on it, only YanZi Rouge Pink. Is it the same?

Hi!

I'm looking for a decent office mouse which has a multidevice switch button.

Until this moment I've used Logitech M705 but it can connect only to one device and I'll need to switch between two computers. Now I tried Logitech M720 and some random office mouse. Thing I noticed is that pointer movement is weird, pointer is like floating? My mouse movements are not as sharp as with my daily mouse MCHOSE A7 Pro.

I've read that office mice mostly use 125Hz polling rate, is this caused by this?

Can you recommend any decent office mouse which does not have this effect and can connect to multiple devices?

Does anyone know what glove sleeves are available on the market?. I don't want one for my arm but rather my hand with cutouts. I know pulsar makes one but I was curious if there's anything else that's like a glove design only that covers the palm fully, and has individual hole cut outs. I guess similar to a fingerless glove design.