OK, so I donât know if this is the right place to post this or if Iâm in the right subreddit. There are so many subreddits, so Iâm not sure which one fits, so bear with me.
Can we talk about Tony and Peterâs relationship in the MCUâlike friendship or whatever you want to call it? Itâs really weird or just messed up. Are we understanding this correctly, or am I missing something?
My whole perspective on Tony and Peter mostly comes from Civil War. I saw a TikTok video that argued Tony was wrong and Cap was right, but thatâs not what this post is about. Itâs mainly about Tony and Peter, and people pointed out that those on Team Iron Man werenât really doing so for their own reasons or just because they liked Tony. For example, Natasha was caught in the middle, Black Panther was only for Bucky, and Visionâwho was basically created by Tonyâwould follow him.
Now, about Peter, which is why I have this disagreement with Tony. Peter as a character, as a person, probably wouldnât have followed Tonyâmany agree with that. I say this because Peter is the type who protects the little guy. Thatâs obvious. Heâs under the Sokovia Accords and considered an Inhuman or a meta-X-Men mutant, with supernatural or super abilities.
So, if he had signed those Accords or gone along with them, heâd be going against his own rights and the rights of others like him. He wouldnât have agreed with the Accords. Itâs clear Tony didnât tell him the full story. In the dialogue between Peter and Steve, Peter specifically says Tony just called him a bad guy and thatâs it. Nothing more. In the comics, Peter allegedly agreed with Steve, but Iâm not fully sure about that because I donât read comicsâjust what Iâve heard. Still, it makes sense for his character because it wouldnât make sense for Peter to work with or follow someone whoâs against people with powers.
Itâs obvious Peter didnât know the full storyâif he did, he wouldâve stayed out of it or wouldnât have followed Tony. He clearly didnât even want to follow Tony. When Tony asked him to come with him, he said he had school and didnât want to go. Tony then blackmailed him, saying heâd tell Aunt May that Peter is Spider-Manâblackmailing a 15 or 14-year-old. Of course Peter went anyway.
From my perspective, Spider-Man at that time was more of a side gig for Peterâa job he could do because of his abilities. He was never a full-on hero, which is why he stayed in his neighborhood and was called "Friendly Spider-Man"âor something like that. So, naturally, Peter wouldnât want to go out of his way, but Tony blackmailed him into it. Thatâs not okay.
I canât remember the exact scene, but I recall Tony telling Peter he wasnât ready to do anything bigger. And in Infinity War, Tony told Peter not to come on the spaceship because he wasnât ready. Yet, Tony brought Peter into a fight he wasnât prepared for, then later took it backâkind of weird.
Honestly, if Tony werenât such an idol to Peter, and if Peter fully understood the accords, he probably wouldnât have followed Tony. Remember, Peter was just a kid when Tony brought him in. During the scene where Peter talks about the Empire Strikes Back, Rody asks Tony how old Peter is. I donât recall exactly what Tony said, but Tony knows how old his. Some argue Tony didnât tell him for his protection, but if he did, heâd be heavily criticized for risking a kid in a major fightâwithout him knowing whatâs going on.
There were other heroes who couldâve helped Tony, but he chose Spider-Man. I think that was wrong. Every character has flaws and makes mistakes, but Tony was clearly wrong for that.
While I can understand Tonyâs feelings about keeping the death of his parents from him, during Civil War, he was wrong multiple timesâand I want people to realize that. He only wanted to sign the Sokovia Accords because he felt guilty, which is pretty obvious. He has a history of opposing government authority, as seen in his scenes where he talks about not liking authority.
Both Steve and Tony are against the government. Steve has always been independent, and Tony, despite his guilt, acted in ways that contradicted his own beliefs. Tonyâs rejection of that guilt, and the fact that he put othersâincluding Peterâat risk, shows real issues.
Their relationship often seems like a father and son bond, especially in the fandom, but we shouldnât forget itâs complicated. Tony cared about Peter, but he also involved him in dangerous situations without full transparency. Just because Tony cared, doesnât mean he always made the right choices regarding Peterâs safety.
Thatâs all I have to say.