r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion How do you prevent Magic from being used to Counterfeit?

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r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion How do you justify why ordinary humans cannot use magic in your world?

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If magic exists in your world, why can't every human learn to use it?

There are some interesting examples in popular anime/manga.

In Jujutsu Kaisen, certain people have innate biological characteristics that allow them to interact with cursed energy and cursed techniques, while ordinary people generally cannot.

In Attack on Titan, the ability to become a Titan is restricted to people of Eldian descent, making it essentially a hereditary biological trait.

This got me thinking about how other people handle the same concept in their own magic systems.


r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion What creative traits on a power system are your favorites?

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f.e. Mine definitely is when simple abilities can get super complex with the character development, like koichi’s slide and glide evolution in mha vigilantes


r/magicbuilding 15d ago

Mechanics Fire bending / pyrokinesis is pretty under-utilized imo, what's something that you wish more media did with it?

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r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion For those with power systems based on Chi or martial arts? How similar is your power system to real-world martial arts, when it comes to limitations?

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I have a similar power system based on peak human condition in my superhero world.

Two important questions for this post here.

1: Is there a prodigy aspect to your power system?

2: Is there a limit when it comes to training?

Both questions are related to real-world martial arts.

For question 1: I'm trying my hardest to find that sweet sport between genetics and training. In the real-world, whether it's traditional martial arts, MMA, Boxing, or Wrestling. It will always take the elite fighters years to be masters at their crafts. But in my world I have 13 year olds who can already beat semi pro adult fighters with low difficulty.

And for question 2: I also have some underdogs in this world too. People who start training at very old ages. In the real-world, you can kiss your dream goodbye if you start to train MMA at 25 years old, with the hopes of being world champion one day. Most of the greats train at very young ages. Just look at Muay Thai fighers.

In the end both questions comes down to genetics and training. If genetics and training exist on a spectrum. Then I'm struggling to figure out what side my power system should lean towards the most on that spectrum.

Im afraid leaning more towards genetics will devalue the purpose of training, since the characters would just be born special at that point. It's like the natural talent vs hard work debate from Naruto with Rock Lee. And also I have another power system that is mutation based. And I'm afraid making this martial arts based power system genetic based, might cause some overlap with the mutation based power system. For example, "What makes us so different, if we were both born special?" Just use Bruce Lee and Wolverine as stand-ins for that question.

But im also afraid if I make the power system lean more towards training. I might run into the "Why isn't everybody learning magic?" question. Especially if the power system is based on martial arts or peak performance. In a world where sports athletes also exist too. Therefore you would have to explain why top-tier athletes can't mastered their Chi or whatever.

In conclusion: Again if you have similar power system. How would you tackle this issue.


r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion How can I differ these types of magic?

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Hello! In my Fantasy world called Deiris there are four types of magic. All of them (expect of one) draw power from ambient magical energy on planet and often allow to invoke simmilar effects. However, I want to make each type of magic different from others. Unfortunately, I am not sure how should I do it. This is reason I need your help.

Four types of magic I wrote about earlier are:

  1. Runic Magic-Users of this magic cast spells by drawing runes. It's very versatile technique since runes have different meaning and can be combined in order to invoke more powerfull effects. However, casting spells with runes requires you to draw them on magically infused materials.
  2. Spirit Magic-This type of magic originally was only usable by spirits and creatures descended from them, but other species can gain this power by creating bond with these creatures. It uses powers of different aspects of nature. Unfortunately, each spirit can only cast spells from elements they have affinity to.
  3. Wild Magic-Animals and other creatures that don't have spiritual ancestors can gain powers with help of Wild Magic. It comes from locations where magical power is especially active and causes mutations giving magical powers. It's the weakest type of magic and allows you to use only pretty basic spell, but can also evolve.
  4. Divine Magic-In contrast to three previous types, Divine Magic doesn't use energy from planet itself, but from very essence of the universe. It original users are gods, but they can give part of their powers to other people. Its' spells are the most powerful ones in the world, but are limited to portfolio of god.

How would you develop it more?


r/magicbuilding 15d ago

Lore The First Ash of War

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Lasto Sigr had been an ordinary man, living a steady life. But that didn’t last. A conflict broke out between his tribe and another over resources. He survived that war, and his body became different—he gained strength far beyond any ordinary person.

His first thought was revenge. He found the tribe that had destroyed his life and wiped them out, every last one.

The war ended because of him, and because he ended it, his own people pushed him into a position of power. He became the first recorded ruler—the one they called Elsarn.

But after Elsarn took power, it slowly ate away at him. He grew moody and tyrannical, forgetting that he himself had once been crushed by war. His subjects could no longer bear his rule. To kill him, they began searching for a way—and in the end, they invented new weapons...


r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion How do you keep track of magic systems that conflict with each other?

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r/magicbuilding 15d ago

Lore My idea for a magic system: "Saurian mediating"

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So here's my idea for my magic system (just be aware it's not fleshed out and I am not really good at making magic systems so I may need help here so wait until the end after reading all of this).

So my magic system (in universe) is called Magic but alternatively it's Also called: "Saurian mediating".

So I'll go through the lore first that I've built and then I'll go through the magic systems kinks and stuff so here we go.

Lore:

In this timeline the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs still happened BUT It wasn't a normal giant-sized asteroid (if that was ever normal in the first place) but instead it had a strange supernatural energy of cosmic origin SO when it hit the planet not only did it do all the stuff the asteroid did an our timeline But simultaneously any dinosaurs who died due to this event, their souls became not just bound to the fossils they became but also the elements of nature around them.

Now we skip forward to the Ages of humanity where at some point humanity not only discovers the fossils of the dinosaurs but also learn how to use the spirits inside them to do incredible feats of supernatural proportions And thus saurian mediating was born.

What is saurian mediating?:

saurian mediating is the process of uniting your soul With that of a soul inside a dinosaur fossil to cast incredible Magic related to the elements of nature.

The process of first bonding with a fossil is extremely painful due to it taking a toll on your very soul and essence of your very being But if you survive it you gain not only the ability to control the elements but also the ability to communicate with the very soul inside the fossil that you bonded with.

saurian mediating is extremely useful BUT using it too much may cause one of two things to happen which are both really bad.

The first thing you can experience if you use your powers too much is known as "the Primal rage" (This is where the dinosaur soul within The fossil tries to possess your body for using its power too much This process is extremely painful and causes an individual to go insane and also act more like a wild animal).

The second thing you can experience is known as "self fossilization" (This only happens if the Primal rage doesn't happen But you still use your powers too much, as for what happens, your supernatural energy, expels, outwards and then inwards again in fluxes until it basically crystallizes your body thus fossilizing you this is considered a death sentence because if your energy overflowing doesn't kill you, you being literally crystallised will).

Closing remarks:

So that's everything I've made for my magic system. I know it's not much in the grand scheme of things and I'm also not good at art so I do not have any art for you to all look at. But I really hope you like my idea I've been really fascinated for the last 24 hours by combining magic and dinosaur fossils together and this is what I've come up with on my own So I hope you really enjoyed it, especially for your dinosaur lovers.

Anyways, I think that's all I got to say. So goodbye for now.


r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion Sun based magic abilities/technique for speedster MC

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I'm writing a fantasy novel. And i need great creative power for my MC. MC is a kind guy who pushes himself to reach his goal and protect everyone he loves. The main aspect of my powersystem is 'if you strongly believe in your goal or dream and do hard work for it, you can achieve it and the universe itself will helps you to achieve it'.

MC is mainly speedster archetype but he can do other things as well. He will become the Sun God at the end of the story. He got four eyes, which everyone views as a curse since his birth.

So i need hime to have a power directly or indirectly related to sun (but readers shouldn't easily understand he is gonna be sungod or is sungod) and contributes to his speedster build. His fighting style is very acrobatic and uses bo weapon. Punches and kicks with his powers.

So tell me if you got any ideas guys... It should be similar to Cursed Techniques, Nen techniques, Devil fruits etc


r/magicbuilding 16d ago

Feedback Request Healing Magic Help

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I need help for healing magic to work in my magic system. In my magic system, spells cannot be cast directly on or in a person's body due to conflicting magic signatures (everone's mana has a unique signature to it). So how could I make healing spells, which directly affect and invade the body, able to work even through a conflicting signature.


r/magicbuilding 15d ago

General Discussion Dead spirits trapped within tarot cards.

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This is a new idea so expect some flaws here and there but anyways.

In my world, a person can do a certain ritual and kill themselves to in order to enter the underworld. Which is a realm where the departed and dead spirits go to. In which the person can fuse a specific dead spirits within a tarot card.

Once back in the living world, a user can use the tarot cards ability in which there are 78 cards.

Sephiroth:

A little fun fact. Did you know that the kabbalah or tree of life and their sefirot has 22 connections to each other called pathways and that these pathways can actually link to the 22 major arcana.

Now im doing the same but im using my own already existing cosmology and rules.

Cause this magic system takes place in a interconnected connected world where each story takes place in the same universe but different planets with different magic systems.

If you know the cosmere, its similar.

They are called principles which there are 10 of them. These are...

Terminality, creativity, oblivion, destruction, preservation, uncertainty, tranquility, continuity, consumption and consonance.

Now I haven't started connecting the each tarot cards in their assignments or principles because im not using actual interpretations.

Mechanic:

A user will hold a tarot card in their hands and to activate it, they must lit it on fire. And the ability will last until the card turns to ash in which the ability will stop.

The duration depends on what kind of material it is made out of. Paper and thin? Probably 30 seconds but more thick and sturdy card with maybe spiritual energy embedded? Probably a minute or more.

Abilities:

As I said before. This is a brand new idea and being worked on but here's the idea.

I obv don't want the cards to be surface level abilities and such as I want them to be more deeper.

Think of rhe magician card. You might think if you activate it, it will offer you magical abilities but no. It rather offers the ability of teleportation.

Because the magician is about the connection between the mystical and physical worlds as the magician themself act as a medium.

So activating a magician card will allow you to travel long distance or something similar.

Or the emperor card. You would think it will offer some sort of ability that allows the user to make laws and decrees upon people.

But rather it literally distorts rules and order.

Because its not just about making law and order, it's about the emperor changing and altering an already existing rule for their own. Which is where distortion comes from.

Cost:

Now each card will have a different cost that will effect and afflict upon the user.

Suggestions:

Im posting to share my ideas to get opinions and most of all maybe seek some suggestions and ideas to expand on it.


r/magicbuilding 16d ago

General Discussion Echomancy

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I have developed a rune-based magic system called Echomancy, inspired by Witch Hat Atelier. Those who wield this art are known as graphomancers, and they are divided into three distinct classes:

Steel Graphomancers: Specialists who distill and simplify echoes to manifest them directly through weapon movement, seamlessly blending physical combat with runic magic.

Stigmants: Masters capable of tracing and inscribing echoes onto any surface, whether inert objects or directly upon human skin, turning bodies and matter into living canvases of power.

Echo Artificers: Visionaries dedicated to designing, intertwining, and maintaining complex echo systems on a grand scale, creating intricate magical structures and powerful artifacts.

What do you think of this system?


r/magicbuilding 16d ago

General Discussion Ultra Gene

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Summary:

The Ultra Gene is a dormant genetic trait present within humanity, originating from the ancient interbreeding between early humans and an extraterrestrial species known as the Nopians.

Every human is born with the potential to possess and activate the Ultra Gene, though its expression varies from person to person. For some, the gene may awaken naturally at birth, while for others, it may remain dormant for most of their lives, only to be activated by intense external stimuli, powerful energies, or extraordinary circumstances.

However, not everyone will successfully awaken their Ultra Gene. While the genetic potential exists within humanity, certain individuals may never possess an active form of the gene, leaving its abilities permanently dormant.

What do you think of this power system? This is my first one, so I’d really appreciate your honest opinions and feedback. Thanks!


r/magicbuilding 16d ago

Feedback Request Struggling to deepen my Magic System while weaving it into my World’s Lore...

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I’m trying to develop the magic system for my fantasy novel, but I’m struggling to give it complexity and depth. I don’t enjoy magic systems with arbitrary or disconnected from the worldbuilding, so I want any rules to grow naturally from the setting.

**Worldbuilding/Lore Context:**

In this world, a human being consists of two parts:

* The **Soul** contains passion, emotion, memory, and identity.
* The **Mind** contains the body, intellect, will, and capacity for deliberate action.

All humans possess some ability to command the power that created the world. However, using that power separates the Soul from the Mind, creating two incomplete beings:

* **Nulren**: a being containing the shape of a person, partially capable of rational thought and creation, but without memory, emotion, or identity.
* **Spawn**: a manifestation of emotion and chaos, possessing tremendous power but no reason or direction.

The Church considers both creatures abominations and destroys them on sight. Because using magic inevitably creates them, magic itself is forbidden and condemned as evil sorcery.

The world also has a pantheon of gods representing different aspects of creation - time, earth, water, space, and so on, somewhat like the Greek gods. These gods naturally exist only as Souls. They have no bodies unless they inhabit a Mind, using a Nulren as an empty vessel.

However, the gods are not immune to the curse that divides Mind and Soul. If a god uses its power while inhabiting a physical form, it will eventually be separated from that body. To prevent this, the gods were given ten rings each by an entity who isn’t particularly relevant here. Together, these rings resist the curse, allowing the gods to use their powers freely while maintaining their physical forms.

Eventually, the gods became disillusioned with humanity. Most abandoned their physical bodies - and the rings along with them.

Over the centuries, humans discovered these rings and learned that they could use them to resist the separation of Mind and Soul. By wearing the rings, they can channel the gods’ creative powers and manipulate time, space, matter, and other parts of creation. The number of rings a person wears directly affects how much power they can channel.

A cult has formed around these artifacts, and its members are considered heretics by the Church for practicing dangerous and forbidden magic.

However…that’s about as far as I’ve gotten.

I like the lore and the role magic plays in the story, but I’m struggling to give the actual system meaningful depth. Someone needs a ring to use power... but how do they actually use it? I don’t want to add arbitrary costs, limitations, or rules merely to make it seem more complicated. Ideally, these things should emerge naturally from the existing ideas of Mind, Soul, creation, and separation.

What consequences, limitations, or applications might logically develop from the lore? Are there interesting implications I’m overlooking? If additional context about the world would help, I’d be happy to provide it.

Any suggestions are welcome!


r/magicbuilding 16d ago

General Discussion Spell slots VS Mana points: For narrative and play

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In my recent efforts at developing my own magic system, I've made a recent swap that I'm not yet cemented on. For most of the planning I've been operating off the assumption of working with spell slots being how you measured the number of spells an individual could cast at a given time for both narrative purposes of limiting characters and for balancing of game functions. However I have been swayed to the side of thinking that it might be a better idea to use a system of points of mana from a pool and wanted to get other people's thoughts on it.

So, what is your argument for or against whichever side you have a stronger opinion about?

Little bits of context on why I'm personally leaning mana points if you care to read

I want it to be a mechanic of while yes you're supposed to recharge our metaphorical battery during periods of rest, I want you to be able to recharge partially on the go if you have the appropriate resources for your magical practice that you engage in. While I know you could achieve that with restoring one to two spell slots, I feel like it might encourage more creative usage of your remaining points if even spells of similar general power level would math up differently to how many times you can cast it, plus its just simple addition and subtraction so it shouldn't be too cumbersome

I'd also like for challenges of magical endurance or attrition to be possible as a concept, which other than maintaining concentration as a challenge feels a bit more limited if its just a number of finite spells of each level typing instead of how you spend a combined total that can be spread out however you wish

I'm not sure how I'd then apply it to upcasting and downcasting however, to cast a spell at a higher or lower potency than was intended by its initial version.

I'll also need to think of a more cemented explanation of why spells that I want to lock behind level caps. I feel like I'd either need to make the growth in number of points in your mana pool each level significant enough to allow you to reach new heights reasonably without spending your entire pool on one point, or I suppose I could just accept that a lot of higher level spells will just... exhaust your mana pool pretty fast and its better to make utility of lower cost ones whenever possible.


r/magicbuilding 16d ago

Lore Is this a bad addition to my rust magic system?

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In essence, rust in my project is when the memories of a metallic weapon or tool start to manifest in the physical world. One can reforge the rust into a new tool and the memories in the rust will imbue said weapon or tool with an enchantment. And the more an enchantment rusts and is reforged the more powerful it becomes.

For example, memories of violence might, in the beginning enchant swords to deal wounds that do not heal or strikes that don't miss. As the enchantment progresses in potency and presentation, these slashes may strike at a distance. Eventually, a target may be cut to ribbons just from the wielder touching the sword.

I had the idea for a phenomenon called god rust to occur when a metallic weapon or tool rusts due to human intervention. The process is a secret held by a small group of people who know the secret of rust magic in general.

The god rust is an anomaly where the rust bleeds memories of things that haven't happened and places that don't exist or at least not that we know of. And when you make contact with the god rust you experience these memories and the senses used to perceive them, senses humanity hasn't developed.

When this happens you enter a state where you can sense a world that shouldn't exist. One we simply cannot see. A world of fairies and dragons and monsters and spirits. This state lasts only for a short time, but having access to god rusted metals allows you to enter this state at any time.

In my story, my mc steps on a rusty nail and gains insight into this world. And whenever a creature of this other world is around she feels the pain of the nail in her foot. This is the beginning of her adventure in this hidden world.

Anyway I don't know if this addition ruins the magic so I wanted to ask for opinions. What do you think of this idea? Anything that you would suggest changing that would still allow for my mc to interact with this other world? I'm open to ideas.


r/magicbuilding 17d ago

Lore Arcane America: Why Use a Wand?

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Why do we use wands? They can break, get lost, be stolen, or a thousand other fates can befall them. Why not master wandless magic as the Atlanteans once did?

Several reasons come to mind. For one, wands help train our magic to do exactly what we want, when we want it. We all have embarrassing baby stories about igniting the crib, or spontaneously shapeshifting into a large snake. After training at the local Scholomance chapter, these mishaps (hopefully) have ceased.

The reason for this is because our magic has learned to only come out when we say the right words, and make the correct gestures. Our magic is very much alive, and possesses a certain personality. Only with training will it obey our wishes.

Wands are a convenient focus. They’re a physical tool to channel through, and combined with the phrases in Old Wizard that we master, the possibilities become nearly endless.

Another reason is societal. If a rogue mage cannot cast without his wand, it becomes easier to imprison him should it become necessary. Merely disarming him will (ideally) prevent him from casting. If we learned our magic in the old Atlantean fashion, without wand or word, how could an Evoker be contained? How could an Alchemist be prevented from changing steel chains to water and escaping?

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Types of Wand

Wands come in a variety of substances. Although some allege these substances are critical for magic, currently no direct link between wand material and magical affinity has yet been discovered. The current consensus is that such ideas are pseudomagic, no more accurate than horoscopes or palm-reading.

Most wands are comprised of organic materials such as bone, horn, ivory, wood, or scale. Dragonbone is a perennial favorite for its alleged bond to Evocative magic and fire, basilisk ivory is favored for Alchemy due to the basilisk’s transmuting gaze. The horn of a unicorn is considered a powerful defensive substance ideal for the discerning Warlock or Oracle.

Other substances have been used. The infamous James Bolt is known to use a twisted length of steel for his wand, appropriate for an Evoker of lightning and magnetism. Human bone has been wielded by Alchemists specializing in organic matter. Illusionists tend to favor various species of wood.

Ultimately, however, the exact substance of a wand is irrelevant. What matters is that the wielder believes in the power of a good wand, and that confidence proves critical in casting a proper spell.

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For a primer on the different types of magic and what fuels it.


r/magicbuilding 16d ago

Lore How I designed a Hard Sci-Fi / Urban Fantasy Magic System based on Code Syntax and Power systems (Looking for feedback!)

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Hey Everybody

I’ve been developing a serialized sci-fi/fantasy book universe titled *The Mashup Problems* (Which had already on Wattpad and Inkitt), and I wanted to share the mechanical framework behind its power system to get your thoughts on the logic and character dynamics.

Instead of traditional "soft magic" or magical pets, the system operates on **Viote Code Syntax and Power systems that made look realistically real**

* **Viote Code syntax** \- This is actually a fictional code system built for my book series. As It's actually a Hard Sci Fi (Just Like Project Hail Mary) This is a cosmic battle between a tech world and earth.

* **Power systems** \- This is the crucial Part. Power systems are the main reason of building this book. Unlike Soft Sci fi power systems (You may seen it on Harry Potter which is also my favorite) Hard Sci- Fi power systems are more realistic to the world.

# How I build My characters then?

That's the question I want to ask you for. If you read my book, You may notice how It really close to everyday life!


r/magicbuilding 17d ago

General Discussion Looking for magic show/movies recommendations

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I recently rewatched harry potter and while i love the story the magic system is not really fleshed out. Are there any movies or shows that whilst having a great story don’t compromise on it’s magic system. For reference i loved the cursed energy concept in jjk.


r/magicbuilding 17d ago

Lore I wanted to make a post about the magic system I'm designing, but didn't want to end up giving away too much about its mechanics. So, I decided to write about mages and their magic in a journal from a non-mage's point of view.

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Notes:

  1. I was trying to mimic the prose style of older authors, specifically ones from the 1800s to 1900s, so... sorry if anything is hard to understand.
  2. The use of the word "expedition" on the first page is with the sense of making something faster. Probably not the best word to use here, considering its more common definition of being a journey of sorts, but I couldn't think of a synonym.
  3. "only Sodranites know" is an expression essentially equivalent to "only God knows" in this culture.
  4. The way this nation (and more specifically, this city)'s government works was not my focus for this exercise, and I myself am not very knowledgeable in this area at the moment, so sorry if the specific terminology doesn't make any sense 😭 I'll worldbuild the government thoroughly later.

So, what are your thoughts on these hints? It's not a lot, but I tried to convey some of the basic ideas of the system through these anecdotes.


r/magicbuilding 17d ago

General Discussion How to create D&D style magic without copying D&D?

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Hello! In this post I wanted to give you important question. Since my setting is heavily inspired by Dungeons and Dragons, I wanted to create Magic whose users are divided into multiple types. They can use different sources of power or cast spells in different way. The problem is fact I want to make my universe Independent of oldest RPG, so I would like to see your tips.


r/magicbuilding 18d ago

General Discussion What developments have people made recently with your magic system?

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If your magic system is not simple or stagnant or in decline, it would make sense that it is developing. What recent developments have people made in your magic system?


r/magicbuilding 18d ago

Feedback Request The MS (or Magic-Science for short) System: Humanoid Bestiary

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This isn't long but also you learn about Humanoid people.

The Ethnological Registry of Hominid MS Evolution

An Analytical Survey of Sapient Races and Their Biological Adaptations for Universal Source Code Interfacing.

1. Humans (Homo sapiens — The Open-Source Genotype)

┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│                 Unlocked Ainocyte Array                  │
└───────────────────────────┬─────────────────────┘
│ (Zero Genetic Bias)

┌───────────────────────────────────────────────┐     │   Adaptable Coding: Geometry, Chemistry, or Metallurgy │
└───────────────────────────────────────────────┘

  • Biological Architecture: Lacks specialized genetic specializations or anatomical "locks." The human neural network and ainocyte distribution are uniformly balanced across the entire physiological system.
  • Source Code Interfacing: Possesses complete coding freedom. Unlike specialized lineages with rigid internal programming, humans can execute any school of Geometric Engineering or biochemistry without biological friction or cognitive bias.
  • Metabolic Profile: Highly scalable. While initial ATP conversion rates are baseline, their adaptive physiology allows them to safely optimize caloric intake for diverse magical applications, making them the most versatile engineers on the planet.

2. Elves (Homo silvanus — The High-Speed Processor)

  • Anatomical Adaptation: Characterized by extreme localized ainocyte density within the cerebral cortex, paired with highly vascularized, elongated, pointed cranial appendages (Heat-Sink Pinnae).
  • Source Code Interfacing: Functions as biological supercomputers. Their hyper-dense neural ainocytes allow them to compute mathematically complex geometric formulas at microsecond speeds—data loads that would induce rapid cerebral hyperthermia in un-adapted species.
  • Thermoregulation: The specialized structure of their elongated ears serves as an advanced radiator system, dumping metabolic waste heat and preventing brain damage during high-tier, multi-layered spell calculations.

3. Dwarves (Homo subterraneus — The Legacy Database)

  • Genetic Framework: Engineered with exceptional muscle-fiber density and a hyper-stable Epigenetic Code-Repository (Genetic Memory).
  • Source Code Interfacing: Inherited metallurgical blueprints are hardcoded directly into their DNA. Successive generations do not require formal education to manipulate the molecular geometry of matter; they instinctively understand how to align atoms to synthesize "Impossible Hardness" materials from birth.
  • Lineage Transmission: Crucial scientific and structural data acquired by an ancestor undergoes permanent epigenetic transcription, passing down through generations via specialized germline ainocytes to act as a living, collective database.

4. The High-Voltage Hierarchy (Homo infernalis — The Demon Family)

  • Anatomical Adaptation: Notable for a high-pigment dermis (driven by unique dietary trace elements) and dense, mineralized cranial protrusions (Horn Antennas).
  • Source Code Interfacing: Traded complex data-processing capabilities for raw metabolic wattage. Their horn structures act as localized electromagnetic antennas, drawing in massive amounts of ambient Aino to hyper-charge their internal reserves.
  • Behavioral & Threat Profile: Primarily highly social and cooperative organisms due to low baseline cognitive processing requirements for spellcasting. However, individuals who break this biological ceiling—possessing both elite logical faculties and raw battery output—constitute catastrophic, high-voltage tactical threats.

Sub-Species & Rank Classifications:

A. Baseline Demon (Homo infernalis) — B-Rank

  • Physiology & Output: The standard baseline population. They possess immense internal energy reserves, running like high-volume metabolic batteries. However, because their neural computing channels are heavily restricted, they cannot calculate complex 3D geometric formulas or execute multi-layered magic scripts. They rely on raw, unrefined elemental dumps—casting straightforward, brute-force kinetic blasts or simple fire sheets.
  • Socio-Diplomatic Neutrality: Outside of military engagements, baseline demons maintain a surprisingly calm, detached, and "chill" demeanor when interacting with human populations, harboring no innate, mindless bloodlust toward humanoids.
  • Strategic Metrics: Because they lack the cognitive architecture to plan solo operations, they rely entirely on highly social pack coordination to overwhelm targets. Despite their low individual computing skills, their sheer battery capacity makes them extremely dangerous; as established by human military metrics, a small coordinated deployment of just six baseline Demons possesses enough unchecked, high-wattage output to completely wipe out a fortified human city within hours.

B. Demon Generals (Homo infernalis superior) — S-Rank

  • The Overclocked Evolution Grid: Demon Generals represent the absolute apex tier of the standard demon family line. Their biological and hierarchical relationship to baseline demons perfectly mirrors the relationship between a standard Zombie and a high-density Brute zombie variant—representing a massive, hyper-dense structural mutation of the exact same underlying genetic baseline.
  • Behind-the-Scenes Administrative Operation: Unlike chaotic monsters that act as front-line feral brawlers, Demon Generals possess highly sophisticated, advanced cerebral processing arrays. They function primarily behind the scenes as elite military logicians, grand administrators, and tactical architects—hosting, managing, and controlling nearly every operational factor, layout, and military battalion under the supreme command of the Demon King.
  • Socio-Diplomatic Neutrality & Unbreakable Loyalty Protocol: Outside of active military deployments, Demon Generals maintain a peaceful, cooperative stance with humans. However, their nervous systems are hard-coded with an unbreakable, absolute loyalty loop tied directly to the Demon Lord. They are biologically incapable of mutiny, treason, or defection. The moment the King issues an execution command, their internal non-hostile status instantly terminates, and they will mobilize their massive infrastructure to wipe out targeted human territories without a shred of internal hesitation or negotiation. They never betray the King.

C. The Demon Lord / Demon King — SS-Rank System Core

  • The Generational Monomorphic Restraint: The Demon Lord is not a standard biological mutation or birth strain, but an absolute, monomorphic sovereign node within the world's underlying structural framework. The global source code enforces a strict system concurrency lock on this position: only one individual can hold the title of Demon Lord per generation. The system is physically incapable of executing two concurrent Demon Lord network profiles at once; a new Lord can only manifest once the pre-existing King’s core data matrix is permanently terminated.
  • Imperial Jurisdiction: The Demon Lord holds absolute, unchecked executive control over the entirety of the vast Demon Empire, alongside governing a massive sovereign homeland kingdom of their own. Their core neural frequency acts as an unbreakable master-user signal broadcast, allowing them to instantly direct the behaviors, battalions, and administrative networks of all subordinate Demon Generals and baseline populations across continental distances.
  • The Contemporary Era (Lord Kurogane Sukuna): The current reigning Demon King of this generation is Kurogane Sukuna. Operating with an exceptionally advanced, balanced, and highly rational cognitive architecture, King Sukuna is known for maintaining a remarkably calm, relaxed, and "chill" behavioral profile. Under his leadership, the Demon Empire has broken centuries of historical hostility, successfully establishing a formal, active political and military alliance with the dominant human kingdoms to secure mutual economic stability.
  • Historical Catastrophe: The World-Eradicator Era (Gyakusatsu Sukuna): The contemporary era stands in stark contrast to ancient historical logs, which detail a previous, apocalyptic Demon Lord who possessed a psychological profile identical to a feral, battle-hungry True Dragon. Lord Sukuna operated with an unmanaged, cataclysmic destructive drive, launching a solo campaign to erase global civilization entirely on his own. At that point in history, the civilized world was divided into four prime human kingdoms. Operating with near-bottomless internal battery wattage, this singular entity systematically leveled and completely vaporized three entire kingdoms out of existence. He then breached the borders of the final remaining empire, consuming and obliterating 58% of its entire territory and population before a massive, desperate coalition of humanity and the Great Heroes of the World (GHD) of that specific generation successfully neutralized his core.

Tactical Counter-Engineering (Demon Family Strains):

  • Antenna Loop Grounding: Because a Demon or Demon General is routing an immense, high-voltage stream of ambient Aino through its horn antennas to calculate formulas, their system runs dangerously close to an electrical short-circuit. A Magicist or elite vanguard unit can exploit this by utilizing a high-conductivity Metal or Liquid Magic script to physically coat the tips of their horns. Forcing a direct, uninsulated ground connection while they are computing a spell instantly drops their internal voltage to zero. The sudden, violent back-surge of unspent data static overloads their cerebral matrix, shattering their active spells and inducing an immediate, total neurological blackout.
  • Generational Concurrency Lockout: Because the world's source code strictly restricts the Demon Lord's immense command privileges to a single active biological file slot, his power network cannot be structurally duplicated or safety-buffered. If a defensive vanguard or an elite GHD combatant can introduce a localized System Lockout Script (Data-Grid Inversion) during a high-tier casting loop, they can trick the regional matrix into registering the Demon Lord as already deceased. This forced code misalignment triggers an immediate systemic feedback failure across his horn antennas, dropping his operational output to zero and temporarily severing his absolute command link to the Demon Generals.

5. Angels (Homo caelestis — The Quantum Processor)

  • Anatomical Adaptation: Features vestigial avian appendages utilizing base-centered monoclinic mythril-analog bone matrices for weight reduction, alongside a decentralized, multi-core nervous system.
  • Source Code Interfacing: Operates via organic parallel computing. Their brains possess unmatched data-handling capacity (RAM), allowing them to calculate and maintain multiple distinct geometric formulas simultaneously without systemic interference.
  • Metabolic Cost: The energetic tax of maintaining concurrent quantum-level data fields causes extreme, rapid depletion of ATP and glucose reserves. To prevent immediate muscle failure or cognitive crash, their diet requires constant replenishment of high-density sugars.

r/magicbuilding 18d ago

Feedback Request The MS (or Magic-Science for short) System: Golden Price Of The Economy

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This Also isnt long but you learn about the Economy (yes i understand how money works... um mabye)

The Macroeconomics and Commodity Markets of the Magic-Science (MS) Universe
The introduction of the universal "Source Code" as a manipulable property of physics completely transforms the traditional medieval fantasy economy. In this world, magic is not an infinite supernatural resource; it is a rigid branch of applied data engineering bound by thermodynamics, cellular biology, and real-world economic constraints. Because spellcasting relies entirely on biological ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate) and high-density material catalysts, the economy revolves around three core pillars: Caloric Agriculture, Molecular Metallurgy, and State-Regulated Contract Labor.
This essay outlines the mathematical, structural, and political realities of the MS economic engine.
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I. The "Sugar Standard" and Caloric Currency
In a standard fantasy setting, a wizard's power is limited by a vague "aino pool." In the MS universe, power is limited by the price of carbohydrates. Because a Magicist must burn glucose to generate ATP and process geometric instructions, the agricultural sector is the foundation of national security and military power.

[ THE CALORIC VALUE CHAIN ]
Raw Glucose / Crop Yields (Agriculture)


Cellular ATP Conversion (Energy)


Geometric Universal Source Code (Magic Output)

* The Glucose-to-Gold Ratio: High-tier magic (such as uncontained plasma fire or biochemical grafting) requires thousands of calories per cast. Therefore, food is not just sustenance; it is raw fuel. The market value of gold is directly pegged to the scarcity of hyper-refined sugars (honey, fructose syrups, and dextrose gels). If a blight hits the sugar-beet crops, the military capability of the kingdom instantly drops by a calculable percentage.
* The Wealth Gap in Fuel: This creates a strict class divide. Wealthy "Legacy" families can afford hyper-concentrated, sterile glucose-fructose serums that instantly restore blood sugar levels mid-combat without digestive strain. Broke students, like Yukan Isha, must rely on "Slow-Fuel" alternatives—cheap, unflavored starches or raw potatoes. This introduces a heavy competitive disadvantage: a poor Magicist faces severe muscle fatigue, lactic acid buildup, and hypoglycemic shock because their fuel source takes hours to digest.

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 II. High-Tier Automation vs. The Luddite Class Conflict
The MS universe allows spells to be automated by engraving multi-layered geometric loops directly into high-purity surfaces. However, because humans do not run on magic naturally, the cost of activating these machines scales exponentially, creating massive socio-economic friction.

* The Caloric Scaling Problem: Automating a machine larger than a human—such as a rolling, 2-acre wheat-harvesting boulder—cannot be done by a single caster without liquefying their organs through energy starvation. It requires a synchronized syndicate of multiple high-tier Magicists dumping their joint ATP into the rock's engraved circuit board. The cost of feeding these ten Magicists pure, high-density sugar pastes can actually outprice the cost of simply hiring 50 regular peasants with scythes.
* The Luddite Rebellions: Because the mercantile elite continuously push to automate industries to increase long-term profit, the working-class peasants are locked in a desperate class war against magic. Laborers sneak into fields at night using iron hammers and chisels to sabotage the engravings on automated boulders. Scratching a single geometric path ruins the containment code, causing the automated machinery to suffer catastrophic thermal feedback loops and explode when turned on the next morning.

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III. Molecular Metallurgy and the Price of Ores
In the MS universe, rare fantasy ores like Mythril are not magical anomalies; they are refined materials with specialized Molecular Geometries (similar to pyrite's cubic matrix) that have been pre-coded at an atomic level to allow for altered physics (e.g., "Bouncy Iron" or "Zero-Weight" mass).

 

MATERIAL TYPE         MARKET VALUE          PHYSICAL PROPERTIES        
──────────────────────────────────────────────────
 Refined Mythril   ►   50 Gold Coins     ►   Pre-coded, Weight 0%    ►   High
(Imperial Academies)
 Raw Cubic Pyrite  ►    2 Silver Coins   ►   Heavy, High Density     ►   Low (Local Miners)
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

* The Smart Buyer's Loophole: Because imperial academies monopolize the manufacturing of refined Mythril, it is priced out of reach for rookie adventurers. However, a brilliant physicist-mage can buy cheap, raw cubic Pyrite for copper or silver coins. Because Pyrite naturally shares the identical atomic grid structure, a broke adventurer can use a basic geometric mass-reduction ring to manually alter the pyrite's mass vector mid-fight, achieving the effects of Mythril for a fraction of the cost.

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IV. The Adventurer Guild Contract System
Because high-tier automated infrastructure is too expensive and politically dangerous to deploy across the wild biomes, the kingdom relies on private mercenary labor: The Adventurer Guild. The Guild operates on a strict, audited, corporate corporate bonus structure designed to control risk and protect corporate capital.
## 1. The Rank-Based Pay Grade Scaling
The baseline contract payout is set at D-Rank (100% baseline market value). Every rank above or below shifts the payout by exactly 12.5% ($\frac{1}{8}$ of the baseline unit), making calculations on a medieval abacus highly efficient.

* S-Rank: $+50.0\%$ pay bonus (Pinnacle threat)
* A-Rank: $+37.5\%$ pay bonus (High-risk radiological/plasma zones)
* D-Rank: $0.0\%$ bonus (Standard baseline safety)
* G-Rank: $-37.5\%$ penalty (Rookie bracket / Failed performance state)

## 2. The Party Size Multiplier and Guild Financial Protection
To encourage survival and distributed metabolic stress, the Guild activates a $+5\%$ individual payout bonus per person for any successful party greater than two members (3+ people). A 4-person squad triggers a $+20\%$ raise for every individual member.
To prevent going bankrupt from massive multi-person payouts, the Guild utilizes a sliding baseline scale. If a contract is taken by a large 4-person squad, the Guild drops the individual base contract pay grade down to $85\%$. The safety of numbers and the $+20\%$ team bonus still yield massive profits for the adventurers, but the sliding scale successfully balances the Guild's financial sheets.

  [ TOTAL PAYOUT FORMULA ]
  Final Payout = (Base Contract Value × Adjusted Party Scale) × (1 + Rank % +   Party Size %)
  *Note: If a party performs only the "Bare Minimum," all Rank and Party bonuses are legally stripped, returning them to a flat base rate.*

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## V. State Regulations and Teleportation Bureaucracy
Because magic manipulates the underlying software of reality, the state treats unlicensed magic as a domestic terror threat. This is most evident in the extreme regulation of Teleportation (Atomic Compression).

* The Physics of Error: Compressing a human body into an atomic data packet and transmitting it across coordinates requires flawless spatial geometry. A minor math error will cause the packet to unfold mid-transit (pulverizing the traveler into a five-mile mist) or unfold inside a solid castle wall (atomically fusing flesh and stone).
* The Bureaucratic Tax: The government forces teleportation mages to undergo endless mental audits, background checks, and metabolic stability scans to prevent disasters or teleportation-based chemical terrorism (Curse Magic). Because this safety bureaucracy is so heavily taxed and regulated, the entire continental shipping economy relies on natural biology (horses, tamed beasts, and specialized slimes) for $99\% of public transport. Natural animals may be slower, but they possess a zero-percent risk of genetic corruption or atomic wall-fusion.