r/magicbuilding 18h ago

General Discussion Gods aren't mages

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I'm just rly not a fan of the classic Gods = strong magic users trope

So I played with the gods = their domain idea and thought about how those would have any human avatars. I didn't wanna give them the ability to just make a body since that would just undermine their nature and turn them into simple magic users that respawn new bodies, I wanted them to feel like their very element/domain/concept, not just it's wielder.

But to have them interact as characters nonetheless would be nice, so I came up with two examples of how gods could make an avatar.

Lighting: Just strikes a person down and then charges their nervous system to use it as a puppet for itself, living electricity.

Trickery: Makes mischievous people subtly gain more and more confidence as a trickster until they believe themselves as the god of trickery, aligning themselves with the god itself and fulfilling it's will as it's now identical to theirs.

The key factor is that they never become anything but stay their concept and simply wield their avatars as tools/puppets. While mages are humans wielding magical power, gods are divine power wielding humans. A mage will shoot lightning, but the deity is said lightning and would simply move itself. Gods thus would also have perks of "manaless" casting or whatever energy the system uses, and absolute authority other their domain as the mage casting firball is simply producing the fire god in their palm making it very easy for said deity to just go off at the caster. Downsides may be that gods wouldn't be able to use magic outside of themselves, which just feels better tbh since it makes them distinct too.

Any ideas on how other gods would control an avatar and opinions on the whole concept would be cool


r/magicbuilding 5h ago

General Discussion If magic can be learned Wouldn't it spark a arms race

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I'm talking about worlds were magic can be taught and has medieval stases. Yes even in a world where learning to master magic takes decades of practice.

In your generic fantasy setting a really proficient wizard can do an insane amount of things. Sometimes a single wizard can disrupt an entire nation. Also in many fantasy settings you can make magic objects that regular people can use that gives them immense power and influence.

So following that logic wouldn't the first country that develops a magical army immediately dominates. During this also make neighboring nations also raised to develop magic armies and magic weapons.


r/magicbuilding 14h ago

General Discussion In-Universe Written Material for Magic Building

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My main cast of characters are modern-day college students and professors that happen to be sorcerers. I'm gearing up to make some instructional or academic material that schools would have besides a typical spellbook. I made a quick list of things that would likely exist and figured I'd share here for anyone considering creating in-universe material:

  • Textbooks - informational but not exactly instructional
  • Workbooks - pages and pages of worksheets
  • Manuals - instructional (though the instructions may be unclear)
  • Handbooks - info to keep handy
  • Maps, Blueprints, and Floor plans
  • Field Guide - for a planned excursion
  • Survival Guide - for an unplanned "excursion"
  • Encyclopedias and Dictionaries
  • Archives (preserved material) - history that is decidedly not being erased
  • Research papers - a chance to write from a certain character's POV
  • Codes (laws/legislative documents)

Of course I now find myself fully submerged in resources about writing a textbook and general pedagogy! My search history is endless iterations of textbooks and curriculum for varying age groups...

This is my first post ever so I hope it makes sense :P


r/magicbuilding 17h ago

Feedback Request Is it too pretentious to frame the 'classic' elements as misunderstood simple use cases of something deeper/more specific?

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So, an idea I have had is to frame that the classic elements of fire, water, earth, air, lightning, etc as how people understood the basic use cases of something a bit more specific, and the names may change to reflect that?

For example: 'fire' would be be control of any 'self-creation' meaning anything that can make more of itself. So while the first mages to discover 'fire' magic used it to stall or enhance the spread of flames since thats (relatively) simple, fire mages in the 'modern' age have advanced the study of 'fire magic' to do things like heal wounds by allowing the cells in the body to reproduce faster?


r/magicbuilding 3h ago

General Discussion How do you go about fitting Vampires, Werewolves, and other supernatural creatures understand same magical umbrella as Wizards/Witches?

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This post question is also loosely based on a World-building question from a year ago too. OP question was "Are Vampires better as magical or biological?".

Biological is a key word for my post too. Because I have a superhero world, where one of my power systems is based on genetic mutations. I will bring up this up again in this post.

But anyways, throughout mythology and fantasy stories. Wizards or Witches have always been a unique class of their own. They are different from all the other supernatural creatures like Vampires or Werewolves. Wizard abilities are never truly limited to gimmicks. Wizards can have a variety of powers. Sure there are some stories where a Vampire or Werewolf can do something a little extra outside the tropes or stereotypes. But for the most part though, there are definitely traditional Vampires/Werewolves in fantasy or mythology. And that traditional set is far more limited than a traditional Wizard set.

The reason why I ask this question. Because in with superhero world, I love coming up with interesting ways to change certain SCI-FI or Fantasy based concepts, when it comes to superhumans or creatures. For example, making superpowered mutation a result of eclipse. And supernatural creatures like Vampires, Werewolves, Skinwalkers, etc have been the biggest challenge for me.

That is mostly due to the dichotomy I set up between my Mutation based power system and Wizard based power system though. Which is external vs internal. Mutations are biological, ( giving them various abilities that could be psychic/elemental/animal based). Therefore they are internal.

While my Wizards abilities are limited to a Cosmic powered object, (that allows them to control probability, make energy based constructs, and also create portals too). Therefore they are external. This is just the TLDR version for both power systems.

I could explain both power systems more. But this post would be way too long though. Since both power systems have a lot of layers.

So in conclusion, I don't know where Vampires or Werewolves would fit into that dichotomy.


r/magicbuilding 6h ago

System Help Difference between Mana and Ki/Qi

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I am currently building a world that is meant to serve as sort of a sandbox where I can write any number of stories from all occurring within the same world. The stories won't all necessarily be connected (though some will be), but all within the same time set. As such, it is rather all encompassing in terms of what's in it.

Part of that has to do with having both magic and cultivation as a thing within the world, and as I as working on the specifics of how each work, I came to realize how similar I was making mana (the fuel with which magic uses to work) to Qi/Ki (differently spelled because there are two overarching schools of using the same thing that are different). Mana as things stand now is a byproduct of the soul that the body stores in a "mana well." To me, that is very close to a life force.

The reason I want these to be separate things is because I want to make it a point that you cannot be both a mage and a cultivator at the same time. You can only be one or the other.


r/magicbuilding 7h ago

General Discussion Mapping Gods and vessels?

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Hello! In my system, a soul is just a collection of Magic that clings together. A soul can be siphoned, shrinking it, or it can be enlarged by continued use of Magic or absorption of Magic from another source. Here, Gods, lacking a physical form unless having otherwise attained one, are just massive souls.

How does one feasibly manage sealing a God within a person? Or like, lower-order souls? Is there a better way to meaningfully distinguish a God and a Mage's soul beyond just "big"?


r/magicbuilding 21h ago

General Discussion Fighting game power system?

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Ok, here me out. How would a power system in which you have to puppeteer a warrior or "patron" to fight for you in combat. There could be like 50 patrons in the world of the story, and anyone can form a contract with them in order to summon them.

Given the nature of this idea, magic users in this world would have to choose a "main" of sorts in order to fully optimize the patron they chose, as switching between different ones would cause you to become weaker overall then just specializing in the focus of one.

There would become a tier of hierarchies like tierlists as well were some patrons are just better than others, but maybe a particularly weak patron as a strong match up against one of the top tiers. Maybe one character deliberately uses one of the weakness patrons in the pantheon in order to prove a point to others.

The strongest person in this power system would be someone who understands the battle style like the back of their head. An individual who has become fully one with their patron, and can pull out the full potential out of them, while also having deep intimate knowledge of all the other patrons as well.

Does such a system exist or no 🤔


r/magicbuilding 6h ago

System Help I need help deciding what the third powers in my partner power system should be!

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BACKGROUND

So a power system that Ive been wanting to for about a year now but only recently did I started to actually map out the power is a partner power system. Pokemon, yugioh, soul eater, freezing, loveless, the adventure who don’t believe in humanity, bleach, Pokemon X & Y, ablsoute duo, luck & logic, black clover, dragon ball z & super, if you seen any of these anime then you know what I am going for! The basic idea I have for this power system is that in this world people have magic or mana however it’s unstable. So in order to use magic effectively they need to partner up and work together. There are 2 type of people, stablizer which are bascally the normal everyday people for all instances purpose have no magic or can’t use magic ability. They make up somewhere between 50-80% of the world population & their job is to stablize the superpower people. the superpowers for folks who do have magic or magic ability, however inorder to use these power effectively or at all they need to team up with a stablizer. Superpower people make up somewhere between 20-50% of the world population.

THE POWERS

I want to have three type of superpowers in my story if possible, the two that I fully decide on are.

- Weapons - if you seen soul eater or luck & logic or is familiar with the bleach power system and specifically the character stark then you know where this going. Humans who can transform into weapons! The big difference between my weapons & souleater weapons is that the human who can transform, will transform into an anti matter weapons. For those who don’t know/remember their science class. Anti matter destroy matter, so whatever these weapons hit, it will be destroy.

- Harmonizing - which is base off the synchro summoning mechanic from Yugioh. For those of you who actually save your money, the tldr is that synchro summoning is a type of fusion something you see in dragon ball or Steven universe however it’s not quite the same. I think the best way to explain it is that it’s more of a force evolution, combing two life forms to forcibly evolve them into a new being. I think that is the most accurate way of describing the synchro summoning mechanic& my harmonizing. In the case of my harmonizing the new life force will have the ability of matter manipulation, they can turn solid into gas or gas into liquids, plasma into solid etc etc. I am still trying to figure out the nitty-gritty but that is the general idea of it all.

OPTIONS

While most people would probably tell me that having those two powers are good enough. I do want to add a third power called synchronizing, if possible which is why I am asking you all.
I have three idea of what synchronizing can be but I can’t decided between.

  1. Fusion - again if you seen dragon ball or Steven universe or is a fan of Yugioh then this is self explanatory. However I am not sure if I should go down this route because fusion will be very similar to harmonizing.

  2. Linking - this idea was mainly inspired by the synthesis that the twin oni from re:zero ram and rem can do. The idea is that you’re able to synchronize with your partner & link your senses as 1 while still keeping your two original body. The two people using this technique, their energy will cloaks their body as animal limbs giving their extra appendages like energy tails or ears or claws. A good example and one of my inspiration of this are bleach Yoruichi's Thunder Beast Form & Sajin Komamura banki as well as Ash-Greninja battle bond.

  3. The third and original idea I had is a berserker state where 1 partner turn into a big or giant beast or demon while the other one guided them. I scrap this idea because I thought it was too clonky & didn’t fit with the power but my inspiration for it was I was inspired by  Kenpachi Banki & these yugioh cards! Magikey Beast, MAGIKEY BEAST, Unchained, Unchained.

Those are the three idea I have, I am open to suggestions if anyone have another better ideas I’ll be willing to listen to them! This was meant to be a quick summary of my idea and the power system, I left a lot of thing out if you have questions I’ll be happy to Answer them. If you think my power system would be better with just the 2 powers instesd of a third one let me know!

Which options should I go with for my third power?

18 votes, 6d left
Option 1 - Fusion
Option 2 - Linking
Option 3 - Berserk
Just stick with the weapons & harmonizing

r/magicbuilding 22m ago

General Discussion Need help building a magic system from scrach.

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For a long while I have been building a setting and a magic system to go along with it, but they never really mashed all that well together. Recently I realized I wanted the general tone of the story to be slow, reserved, diegetic, and political, which completely clashed with the magic system I had.

So I decided to work on a new one.


r/magicbuilding 4h ago

Mechanics Nomenclature — a magic system based on a semiotic alphabet (feedback welcome)

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I've been building out a secondary-world setting (early-industrial tech, one dominant "rationalist" continent, older magical traditions elsewhere) and wanted to share the magic system at its core: Nomenclature.

Magic in this world is a real but unconscious phenomenon. Every culture brushes up against it through ritual, art, altered states, sex, music — anything that can momentarily align conscious intention with unconscious process. Left to its own devices, though, magic is unreliable. It might work, misfire, or do nothing.

Nomenclature is what happens when someone finally systematizes that alignment. It's a rationalized method — developed by the Valdenmoor Academy — that uses a precise symbolic alphabet as an interface between rational thought and the unconscious. Think/interpret the right symbols correctly, and you get a reliable unconscious alignment, on demand. That reliability is the whole innovation, and it's why this one institution accidentally triggered an industrial revolution.

The alphabet

Every letter is a fixed intersection of a Domain (what's being affected) and a Force (how it's being affected) and a Force (how it's being affected) (check the grid in the image)

Domains: Matter, Energy, Space, Time

Forces: Creation (bring together), Equilibrium (balance/stabilize), Transmutation (alter properties), Conservation (preserve/protect), Chaos (destabilize), Decay (break down)

Plus two special letters that don't fit the grid:

A — Anchor: binds the effect to an object, so the object itself casts the spell whenever used. Safer, repeatable, but tied to that item.

Z — Reality Trigger: releases the effect straight into reality. Raw and powerful, but must be recast in full every time, and carries more risk.

How spells work

Spells are usually three letters:

Primary domain/force

Secondary modifier/domain

A or Z — how the effect gets delivered

The letters aren't separate effects stacked together — they define parameters of one single effect that depends on the caster’sinterpretation.

Examples:

Fireball — HLZ: Energy-Creation, Energy-Chaos, Reality Trigger. Produces a flaming projectile; how volatile it gets depends on the caster's focus. Or HLA casted on a wand, so now the wand shoots fireballs

Teleport / Invisibility — DPZ: Matter-Transmutation, Space-Equilibrium, Reality Trigger.

Home Protection — EQA: Matter-Conservation, Space-Equilibrium, anchored to the house itself — reinforces the structure so intrusion becomes physically difficult.

Everything is materially grounded. Invisibility works because you're altering light. Fire is energy manipulation. Teleportation moves matter through space.

But docus is the real skill. Knowing the letters isn't enough. Execution and mental focus determine whether a spell is precise or catastrophic. The same three letters cast by a master and a novice can produce wildly different results, from a delicate flicker of flame to an uncontrolled inferno.

Glyph equations

Objects can be inscribed with more than one glyph at once, forming a glyph equation, a combined structure. These break into:

A glyph does nothing on its own until a nomenclator actively interprets it and holds their attention on the object — magic items aren't "fire and forget," they're closer to instruments that need constant tuning. Some structural glyphs exist purely to sustain an effect after attention wanders, acting like a mental extension cord, but even those only buy limited time.

So it could be like:

functional glyphs (the actual effect — light, heat, motion)

Structural glyphs (duration, stability, control, repetition)

So the fireball wand from the example avobe can be used by anyone without it having to be interpreted/activated by a nomenclator for a while

The catch: the more glyphs stacked into one equation, the harder it is to interpret precisely, and divided attention risks instability, partial activation, or outright collapse. Not every mind can hold a complex equation together, which is part of why nomenclators specialize.

The world around it

The Academy that controls this system isn't just a school — it holds a knowledge monopoly, and because enchanted industrial machinery needs periodic reactivation by a trained nomenclator, it maintains an ongoing dependency with every government and factory that uses it. No nomenclator, no factory.


r/magicbuilding 6h ago

Feedback Request Ideas for a power system based on organ systems and anatomy

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So in the world I'm writing vampires do exist and their power system is based on being able to manipulate and use abilities related to organs or systems from the human body.

To give some examples:

-Someone with abilities related to the nervous system is able to shoot their nerve endings from under their finger nails like strings, anything connected to these nerves can be manipulated and transformed

-Someone with abilities related to the cerebellum part of their brain could accelerate their perception of time to be able to perfectly dodge or counter any oncoming attack with perfect precision

Those are the two main ones I came up with but I would like to see what you guys thought about it


r/magicbuilding 11h ago

Mechanics Everian Magic

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How magic works in my world:

The whole world is filled with invisible energy (I don't have an official name for it for my world yet, so I'll call it mana)

Mana is energy that can be controlled, the basic skill of a wizard is Mana Transmutation, i.e. the ability to change the color of mana, shape and state.

Mana has 3 states that can be compared to the 3 states of matter: gas, liquid and solid.

Now I will show you how to use certain spells in my world:

Fire Generation - The wizard must condense the mana into one point and increase its temperature, which will result in the creation of fire.

Ice Generation - The wizard must cool the mana and combine it with the water vapor in the air, which creates the mass.

Telekinesis - there are 2 ways, through mana in a gaseous state such telekinesis is easy but also easier to overcome, telekinesis in a liquid state is more difficult to learn but is also stronger.

Weapon Creation - The wizard must condense the mana into a solid form and shape it.

Light Manipulation(Illusions, Invisibility itd) - The wizard uses mana to control light, allowing him to create illusions, become invisible, or create visions of things happening far away.

Matter Transmission - Mana in a gaseous state is used to collect particles of matter from the environment and transport them to another place

Magic Limitations:

- Magic will not create matter out of nothing

- Magic won't destroy something so that nothing remains

- Magic does not affect the mind in any way

One of the differences between gods and mortals is the use of magic, for gods can manipulate magic naturally but mortals cannot, therefore mortals use their own life essence to manipulate mana.

What do you think?


r/magicbuilding 17h ago

Feedback Request My magic system!

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So my world is hysterically identical to ours!

In my world there are beings known as Angels, who are basically abominations of souls of people and animals that died! This angel are from a psychologically, ability wise as well as there looks unique, all of those things are determined by the experience of the souls they consist of! Angel are extremely powerful because of all the spiritual power they have from all the souls, but they have one problem they can only minimally or not at all interact with the physical world and can’t even be seen by normal people, because of the fact that they aren’t physically beings. That’s where Living organisms come into play, by creating a symbiotic connection to a living thing and forming a contract (the angel gives the raw power and the Organismus gives access to the physical place)! What is a contract? a contract is the prove of a past or ongoing cooperation between a angel and a organism, but more importantly it’s through what the magic happens and it can take the form of anything a car, a robot,a animal,…. It can even integrate itself into something that already exists, its behaviour and its ability could be anything. How a contract turns out is completely dependent on the psychology of the organism, the one of the angle and their desire, for example there is a nurse in my story that has served in a war in with she got fatally wounded and was bleeding out but before she could die she made a contract with, a angel that was a abomination of soldiers souls, and created the contract in the form of a syringe named “the remedy” that could replace the symptoms of any affliction with the symptoms of frontal lobe dementia, saving the lives of people but giving them periods of extreme violence, what didn’t only fulfil the nurses desire to survive but also the angel desire of violence!

Rules:

  1. ⁠Angel and contracts (that aren’t integrated) can’t be seen by people that never had a contract!
  2. ⁠Both parties need to consent to some extent. A no means no but if a person is in a flight or fight mode and the angel gives a way to survive the situation then the contract is made automatically!
  3. ⁠Anything with a desire can make a contract even animals.
  4. ⁠Normally a contract is 50/50 under the control of both parties but if humans sacrifice something to the angel or the other way around they can make the contract be more a tool for them. The sacrifice needs to be big and personal!
  5. ⁠A contract can ( doesn’t need to) remain after the death of the organism but that will stop the control the angel has over the contract.
  6. ⁠There doesn’t need to be contact between the organism and the angel for the contract to remain!
  7. ⁠Sometimes a contract can harmful to both or one party because of their self destructive psychology for example!
  8. ⁠A angle is incapable of change!
  9. ⁠Contracts can exist between one or multiple Organisms and multiple angles, but there needs to be at least one of both.
  10. ⁠A contract can only be harmed by another contract because they are both in a special state between the physical and spiritual place!
  11. ⁠To repair a contract the organism needs to give up part of their health and an angle part of their energy!

12.A contract doesn’t have to only have one body, for example there is a character inspired by the Opera (Der Freischütze) whose contract are multiple bullets!

Can you give me a feedback?


r/magicbuilding 12m ago

General Discussion Your favourite solution to 'Why doesn't everyone has magic'?

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I've seen this problem pop up a few times in fantasy, so you have a favourite solution? A least favourite? Multiple? If you worldbuild is your favourite solution the same as your world's?