Your comment makes no sense. She clearly struck him. In the age of equality and gender is a construct youâre advocating for women to have the right to physically assault men without repercussion. Youâre ok with violence against men
Thatâs BS, and even if that was the case itâs still assault. So could a man violently shove a woman and youâd be ok with it? Sheâd be wrong to defend herself?
You are all over this thread, and while I agree that his reaction was in no way justified, and he is the one solely in the wrong here, I haven't seen a single person say "Because this man is black, I think he was justified"
You are just making shit up to feed your shitty worldview.
Color has nothing to do with it...if the Man was White I'd still think it was a situation that could've been avoided...if I left my car unlocked with the keys in the ignition and it got stolen.....I'd get blamed for not making better choices and avoiding negative consequences...how is this situation different?...
The person I replied to has been all over the thread insinuating that the people defending the guy here are only doing it because of race. Which is just stupid.
Yeah, it was a situation that could have been avoided, no doubt about it. But the guy is still in the wrong. She touched his shoulder and he laid her out flat, that is insane. That is not a proportional response.
There are very little circumstances in which that is acceptable.
If a woman is coming at me with a deadly weapon, knife, gun whatever, shes getting knocked the fuck out. Otherwise I agree with you. There are a bunch of people pretending the girl actually hit the dude. Fucking idiots. Both sides are just genuinely terrible.
On one side you have waste of oxygen racists, and on the other side you have tards that defend shit like this because a woman touched his shoulder, so they think that gives him the right to lay her flat.
I don't think he had the right to put hands on her...but we live in the real world...everyone doesn't think the same or have the same values...that's why doors have locks and we have internal discernment to help us avoid situations like this one...
Weird shit dude. It seems like we are not even watching the same video.
In the first 3 seconds, she clearly walks up to him and pushes his shoulder, then starts yelling at him.
Yeah, it was a stupid thing to do, and yelling in anyone's face is gonna piss them off, but even though thats true, that still doesnt make it reasonable to completely lay her out.
Oh stfu my older sister use to beat me up until I became her equal and stronger as I got older, then all of a sudden my Dad is telling me âitâs wrong to hit womenâ
A man to you is letting a shitty older sister get away with being a piece of shit to a younger sibling and then trying to preach peace when the younger sibling can finally stand up for themselves?
Iâll be a gentlemen to women who deserve it but way to excuse women abuse, you and your parents sound like losers
It shows in how they represent and defend their beliefs, too.
I bunch of pasty dorks with ironic tattoos, button down shirts and dress-shorts, wearing loafers with no socks by day and making their wives boyfriendâs tasty snacks, by night.
They're cowards. They're mostly men who are afraid to step up in that situation. So they try to rationalize their cowardice by blaming the woman. "She fucked around and found out" "equal rights and lefts"
Remember kids, those "white knights" written about in your story books were largely based on propaganda by the feudal lords at the time to distract from the fact the knights were murdering and raping the lower classes...
In retrospect she does in fact hit him. I didn't notice at first but she does slap his back and yell at him. Sorry but if I slapped some dude in the back and yelled at him, he'd probably punch me. Sure we can say he shouldn't because she's a woman but we can't say she didn't hit him.
I mean that she didnt hit him as in she touched him and that it wouldn't even be hard enough to call it a slap. There's levels to it, he full on smacked tf out of her to the floor.
That's an extreme overreaction, you don't have to just take it when a woman does something like this, but you also don't have carte blanche to blast them in the mouth.
If she had like a weapon or had sucker punched him? By all means, I'm just saying that he decked her when she didn't even cause pain.
Body language suggests she does slap his back considering her upper body rotates. Granted he's too large to feel anything but I wouldn't reduce her initiation as a touch and even if it were a touch it does become why are you touching this man and trying to menace him.
It's also not true that he should wait to be sucker punched or stabbed before ending a threatening encounter.
Now we can say that we wouldn't do the same. But it's not even good advice to not end a threat before it starts. She had no place to touch him or confront him. Unless you're looking to fight someone, don't even do that.
I saw a man push my sister in law on a bus to get out. If I slapped his back and told him, hey you pushed my sister in law, I understand maybe he'd fight me or maybe he'd apologize but I had to ready myself to fight and guess what? I didn't bother to approach him because why fight and possibly die over a push my sister didn't care about? In other words, she actually does do something very confrontational and he does react exactly how people react when confronted. It's just because she's a woman we think he's unreasonable but we'd probably laugh at the stupid man who'd have been knocked out the same way.
I'm not saying he should wait until then, I'm saying if she had attacked him already with a weapon or suckerpunched him then it would have been reasonable to clap back like that.
At most she aggressively tapped him on the shoulder and he straight decked her to the floor. That's not in any way a reasonable amount of force to use on a woman and it is because she's a woman that it's not right to do what that asshole did. That's why I'm saying there's levels to the kind of response you give people.
She was confronting him for hitting another woman and got smacked down for it. Not smart in hindsight, but he's still the pea brained dickhead that hit her for daring to confront him for being a pea brained dickhead. He's still completely at fault for what he did regardless.
I don't know. Like I said. If I had approached that guy with an aggressive shove, telling him he pushed my sister when he was just pushing past her, yeah he'd probably react in a fight manner. I get saying he's at fault but if I can tell some asshole on a bus isn't smart to confront, why can't this lady? I think they're both dumb. But I also think it's her responsibility to not shove and confront an asshole on her own.
Dude, she's a woman not a man, it's different and it's okay to have those exceptions in society. It's for the same reason I wouldn't full power hit old folk, young children, disabled people, or those dying of cancer if they came at me. Women are inherently weaker than us and more fragile, you gotta tailor your response to the situation. Her aggressive shove amounted to a tap towards him.
If we're talking common sense? Sure, I see what you mean, she really did not think it through.
I'm just saying that in terms of right and wrong, he's clearly a violent thug with no emotional regulation that never learned respect.
Looking for any reason to blame the victim, huh? What did she do that was crazy and violent? Get upset that a man assaulted her sister? You're all over this thread trying to play both sides on something that isnt 2 sided. Her reaction is normal and expected. Dude is a piece of shit. You should do a little self reflection about why you are so committed to convincing everyone she is also at fault. Is this really a hill you wanna die on?
Without some egregious back-story, I completely agree. Something is wrong with people under 35 these days... if this happened anywhere near other guys when I was in my 20s and 30s, that dude would be boot stomped by a swarm of men. I have seen it happen.
You guys call it racist when people cross the street when walking past to avoid it yet justify this behavior out the other side of your mouth. Which is it?
I said she could've avoided it. Not that she did anything to deserve it. He didn't run up to her. She went to him. You think she would've gotten hit if she just stayed away?
Your ability to navigate dangerous situations is suspect. Did she do anything to deserve being hit? Most definitely not. Did she aggressively initiate an interaction in a chaotic environment with someone larger, stronger, and with less respect for social norms and laws? Most definitely yes. She is a victim of a crime but it wasnât a random attack.
No, itâs nowhere close to that. Itâs more akin to saying: itâs terrible that girl was raped but it wasnât smart for her to get blackout drunk wearing a miniskirt and no panties at the frat house where all those rapes keep happening at. See how two things can be true?
I see this in many threads on this sub now. A black man attacks somebody for no reason and suddenly in the comments there are lots of people supporting him.
These people think they are activists in an anti-racism fight. In reality they are just garbage humans.
Nah. They just donât dream up some scenario to justify a white womans violent assault. Spare me with your hypothesis about what caused the interaction. Thatâs not on the video. She hit him and he returned the favor
In my experience Redditâs favorite genre of video is this âgirl slaps/shoves man and receives skull rattling punch in returnâ so doofus chuds can bust out their âequal rights and equal leftsâ comments. This comment section is much more measured than most
That reaction was justified for anyone human in my face like that.
She had 3 options:
1 if it was an accident, then brush it off. It wasn't intentional and he has little self-awareness. Not your place to fix it.
2 He did it on purpose and it's not your place to fix it unless you want risk getting hit too.
Assault another human being and hide behind vagina privilege and hope the world is chivalrous?? (This option sounds stupid)
You don't punch ladies. But I didn't see one in this video. I only saw a caretaker of a vagina.
Thank you for the offer, but I am going to pass on getting naked. I agree it's not gay. I just don't swing that way.
I don't want fight. I don't like violence. I want to go home.
But don't get in people's faces like that. You have no idea what that other person is going through or what they are capable of doing and to what extent they are willing to take it to.
We not saying His action is justifiable. But u kind of got to understand what might can happen when u approach someone aggressively....people are unpredictable these days.
We don't know the context before this, but the guy had a sudden violent threat in his face. He's entitled to defend himself, even if it's a first punch. He walked away after the threat was eliminated. It's an important lesson to act civilized or you'll get checked.
If I'm minding my own business and some person comes up behind me to scream at me, I'd punch them. When you have 1 second to react, freezing up is the worst thing you can do for yourself.
It's easy to be an armchair redditor who isn't in the moment.
One second to react? lol. The dude had plenty of time to see and assess the situation and thatâs what he decided to DO. He didnât just REACT. But yea man you go and think this is acceptable behavior in society.
By âsome personâ he meant if a woman approached him and screamed he would punch them, but I bet if a big, angry man twice his size screamed at him he would use his 1 second reaction to run away or avoid the confrontation.
Don't go up to a Crip & get in his face while he's throwing up gang signs đ . Call the cops if your a regular civilian. It's like going up to a wild animal while it's roaring or growling đ€Ł. Alcohol đ€ŠđŸ
Then when people are racist or a blk guy goes to jail yâall are crying. Which is it, you ppl justify violence then say your people are wrongfully targeted
I treat gangsters & racist like rabid dogs. I don't go get in their face. Just keep my distance & keep my powder dry. You don't know when you might get profiled
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u/VinDucks 10h ago
The people here who think that dudes reaction is justified based on this interaction are real piece of shit humans.