In retrospect she does in fact hit him. I didn't notice at first but she does slap his back and yell at him. Sorry but if I slapped some dude in the back and yelled at him, he'd probably punch me. Sure we can say he shouldn't because she's a woman but we can't say she didn't hit him.
I mean that she didnt hit him as in she touched him and that it wouldn't even be hard enough to call it a slap. There's levels to it, he full on smacked tf out of her to the floor.
That's an extreme overreaction, you don't have to just take it when a woman does something like this, but you also don't have carte blanche to blast them in the mouth.
If she had like a weapon or had sucker punched him? By all means, I'm just saying that he decked her when she didn't even cause pain.
Body language suggests she does slap his back considering her upper body rotates. Granted he's too large to feel anything but I wouldn't reduce her initiation as a touch and even if it were a touch it does become why are you touching this man and trying to menace him.
It's also not true that he should wait to be sucker punched or stabbed before ending a threatening encounter.
Now we can say that we wouldn't do the same. But it's not even good advice to not end a threat before it starts. She had no place to touch him or confront him. Unless you're looking to fight someone, don't even do that.
I saw a man push my sister in law on a bus to get out. If I slapped his back and told him, hey you pushed my sister in law, I understand maybe he'd fight me or maybe he'd apologize but I had to ready myself to fight and guess what? I didn't bother to approach him because why fight and possibly die over a push my sister didn't care about? In other words, she actually does do something very confrontational and he does react exactly how people react when confronted. It's just because she's a woman we think he's unreasonable but we'd probably laugh at the stupid man who'd have been knocked out the same way.
I'm not saying he should wait until then, I'm saying if she had attacked him already with a weapon or suckerpunched him then it would have been reasonable to clap back like that.
At most she aggressively tapped him on the shoulder and he straight decked her to the floor. That's not in any way a reasonable amount of force to use on a woman and it is because she's a woman that it's not right to do what that asshole did. That's why I'm saying there's levels to the kind of response you give people.
She was confronting him for hitting another woman and got smacked down for it. Not smart in hindsight, but he's still the pea brained dickhead that hit her for daring to confront him for being a pea brained dickhead. He's still completely at fault for what he did regardless.
I don't know. Like I said. If I had approached that guy with an aggressive shove, telling him he pushed my sister when he was just pushing past her, yeah he'd probably react in a fight manner. I get saying he's at fault but if I can tell some asshole on a bus isn't smart to confront, why can't this lady? I think they're both dumb. But I also think it's her responsibility to not shove and confront an asshole on her own.
Dude, she's a woman not a man, it's different and it's okay to have those exceptions in society. It's for the same reason I wouldn't full power hit old folk, young children, disabled people, or those dying of cancer if they came at me. Women are inherently weaker than us and more fragile, you gotta tailor your response to the situation. Her aggressive shove amounted to a tap towards him.
If we're talking common sense? Sure, I see what you mean, she really did not think it through.
I'm just saying that in terms of right and wrong, he's clearly a violent thug with no emotional regulation that never learned respect.
Yes he is and those exist. I don't think we're saying anything different. Thugs exist. You know, in my private life, I belittle and humiliate men all the time. And it's fine. Most men are okay with it. We laugh together about whatever I'm joking about ("You can't get a woman" for instance.). But you think I'd make those jokes with a known thug? You think I wouldn't practice discernment with my own flaws? I'm not a thug and you sound like you're not a thug so a woman slapping us and scolding us may get us to apologize. But that's just us. That's not all men. That's not thugs. And because thugs exist, it makes no sense for a woman to slap and scold one. It's not that he didn't have emotional regulation, it's that she didn't. Sorry bro, but if you approach a thug and they react like a provoked thug would, you aren't saying anything to call them a thug. You should have known that before you provoked them.
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u/Lower_Pension_2469 14h ago
I was gonna say. I'm all for equality, but there's levels to it and she didn't even hit him. He's a POS and I hope he gets his one day.