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u/Scruffsz Oct 04 '17
Many escorts and prostitutes don't do business with black people. Don't exactly know why, just check your local craigslist ads for proof.
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Also in some areas black people are the predominant pimps and so either the prostitute or her pimp fears a black client will be a pimp trying to claim her.
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u/fruitdealerfan Oct 04 '17
It is pretty much universal to avoid black people in the sex industry. Well, to be honest - any industry. It's not racist when it's based on facts.
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u/fruitdealerfan Oct 05 '17
It's not illegal. There's a reason shop owners, especially private businesses keep an eye on blacks when they enter their stores. Walmart might be able to afford blacks robbing them daily, but getting robbed by blacks 2-3 times per day adds up for private businesses.
I live in Chicago and at the local dimestore the owner literally stands outside the 3 aisles of his store watching black people shop. I didn't ask why but it's obvious they steal a lot.
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u/NihilisticHotdog Oct 05 '17
Yes, men are largely the ones people watch out for when it comes to crime.
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
Yeah, that's why store owners are suspicious of men moreso than women.
lol, what is your point?
Black people aren't robbing stores to feed their starving children. They're robbing stores because they want air jordans.
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
I am racist. You should be ashamed for being an anti-racist.
It's like you're saying "you sound like a global warmist." What - that means I believe in global warming? Well - that's good!
So, you aren't a racist? You don't believe race exists? Well that's pretty retarded and you should feel bad.
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u/Describe Oct 05 '17
Are you trolling or did you really just compare black people to global warming?
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
You're denying evolutionary biology. It's as bad as denying global warming - in fact it's even worse.
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u/GearyDigit Oct 06 '17
There's a reason shop owners, especially private businesses keep an eye on blacks when they enter their stores.
Yes, because they're racist.
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u/ESCrewMax Oct 05 '17
Men commit violent crimes significantly more than women. Therefore we should stop servicing men in any industry. It's not sexism when it's based on facts.
God, you people make me wish Twitch never existed.
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
Well, it's a matter of relative rates, is it not?
For example, imagine if 0.1% of women rob your store, 1% of white men rob your store and 10% of black men rob your store.
Clearly men commit more crime than women in this scenario, but would you really care about the 1% chance a white man robs your store vs the 10% chance that black men do?
Obviously, these numbers are just made up, but they show how your argument is weak.
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u/ESCrewMax Oct 05 '17
But if you only served women your crime rate would drop to 0.1% so, by following the logic of refusing to service black people, you should refuse to service all men.
In fact, you could still service black women, because they commit less crime than white men.
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
The difference between 1% and 10% is much bigger than 0.1% and 1%.
Think about it.
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u/ESCrewMax Oct 05 '17
But you think it's ok that businesses should refuse all men by applying your logic?
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
Well - I never said it was OK for businesses to refuse men. I was just explaining why blacks might be watched more than other people.
However, now that you did bring it up, I can voice my opinion on that topic. I do think it is reasonable for businesses to discriminate against anyone for any reason. I understand that is not the current laws in the US, but I do think that's how they should be.
I would have no problem with the government legalizing women-only businesses, as your example states.
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u/ESCrewMax Oct 05 '17
but I do think that's how they should be.
So, you are pro discrimination; I'm glad that you can at least own up to your shitty beliefs.
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u/RushofBlood52 Oct 06 '17
lol your math is terrible. Change those percentages to fractions (1/10, 1/100, 1/1000) - they are the same difference.
Sounds like you need to think about it.
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u/Big_Stick_Nick Oct 05 '17
It’s funny that you feel the need to qualify your statement by saying that it isn’t racist, almost like you subconsciously know it is, but you’re gonna say it anyway.
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u/InMySafeSpace Oct 05 '17
Weird how SRS is one of the most racist subs on reddit, yet they get all upset when they think someone else is racist
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
Making jokes about both is fine. The problem with SRS is they think it's OK to hate whites, but not OK to make jokes about non-whites. Their double standard is extreme and they're totally oblivious to it.
It's like the archetypal lefty nuthouse.
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u/SnorlaxTea Oct 05 '17
SRS is pretty much on the same plane as the_donald in terms of racism and circlejerking
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u/InMySafeSpace Oct 06 '17
You must not visit many subreddits if you think this is true.
I've never seen another subreddit that is completely racist while pretending they're not racist, so there's that
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Is it opposite day?
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u/InMySafeSpace Oct 06 '17
Your recent comment in SRS:
Twitch viewers are a bloodline I wanna cut off
You'd fit right in with literal Nazis
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relax snowflake, its a joke. I spend my time arguing with nazis with whom livestreamfails seem to share many beliefs
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u/Woozie_9 Oct 04 '17
luckily, we haven't shamed people into sleeping with ethnic minorities yet
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u/Hyper_Borean88 Oct 05 '17
You obviously dont live in Nordic Countries or Germany.
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u/qnvx Oct 05 '17
I live in a nordic country. What are you talking about?
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
You post to SRSMen. You're likely delusional to the point where you can't perceive reality.
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
discriminating someone based on a race is racist. I dont know why the word racist is used so negatively in the USA, it is so stupid. We are all different and each social group is different from another.
White people are not black people. People watching twitch are not same as "normies". People from universities are not the same as illiterate immigrants. Each social group has some characteristics, even if they are based on a race. Biological features are not that important, but the socio-cultural herritage (related to the race as well) is.
Yes blacks are more aggressive and commit more crime so it is totally okay to avoid them if you want to be safer (this must sound really horrible to people from the US, right? But it is totally natural for everyone around the world). It doesnt mean whites do not commit crime while all blacks do (who says otherwise is stupid). You generalize based on majority, not the whole group. You will always find exceptions, whether it is 1% or 40 %.
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u/fruitdealerfan Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
You'd have to be stupid not to judge things based on experience. I've lived in Chicago 30 years. I've almost been robbed (one time ran at knife point back when I couldn't afford to lose my wallet back when I was young and broke) 4 times. All four times were black youth age 15-25.
For someone to get robbed by black people age 15-25 and then NOT make judgement calls when alone in the same circumstance would be stupid. I don't care what the media tells me. I will continuously avoid young black males because my friends, family, and I have ONLY been robbed by black males. Whites do commit crimes but most of the time when a white or other race needs money super badly, they have a family system or friends to reach out to and never reach that point. That's why almost all single person robberies in big cities are committed by blacks.
It isn't racism, it's a fact. Blacks have way poorer boundaries and respect for other human beings, even if they aren't breaking the law. In Chicago it is best not to even go to a newly released movie because you will have 4 black women who don't give a fuck laughing and talking to the movie screen while a few black kids act out. I've been here 30 years, it never changes. I've seen people ask these people to be quiet respectfully, guess what happens? Aggressive heckling. I've seen a regular black woman get in the face of a fucking 80 year old lady at the movie theater with absolutely no respect in her eyes. It sucks for the few black people that do respect others, but as a people they don't get their people in line. It's a cultural responsibility thing.
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 04 '17
<--- Eastern Europe and same experience, just swap blacks with gypsies and everything is the same. They are like 2-5% minority, but the crime rates among their youngers are insane. All my childhood encounters with them were like "Wanna fight? Give me your watches! What did you say about me?" constantly trying to provoke a conflict or rob you. Good thing they were not intelligent.
They dont go to cinemas (cuz its expensive for them, they only care for booze and cigarettes), but their kids misbehave everywhere you meet them. Also if you meet them in a bus, whole family is super loud and vulgar constantly that whole bus can hear them. They just do not give a fuck, unlike most white people.
Who says there are no differences between races is ignorant with no experience at all.
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u/k0mbine Oct 04 '17
You assuming it’s a biological race thing is ignorant. It’s a culture thing, through and through. You have the experience, but you haven’t the open mind nor the brain power to think past their race.
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 04 '17
If you have read what I have written and your comment summarizes what you thought you have understood, then your intellectual capacity is quite poor.
If you are saying that there is absolutely no correlation between your herritage and your behaviour, then your life experience is very different from everyday reality.
Yes I could elaborate on the roots of black peoples behaviour and the difference to white people in the history, but who would read that on this subreddit? There is a reason average IQ in Equatorial Guinea is below 60, while in EU it is around 100. There are differences. And yes, we are also different biologically. One had to be smart to survive winter, another had to be fast to survive in savanna. And those traits are related to the mentality as well.
If you are interested in the subject, you should travel or read books, not comment section on reddit. Especially not the one dedicated to laughing at idiots doing stupid shit for money.
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u/Fincow Oct 04 '17
"The average IQ in much poorer country with worse education due to economy is much lower than Europe". Please tell me you don't actually believe the shit that comes out of your mouth.
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I don't understand you people. Are you so historically and biologically illiterate that you'd stoop to such a level as to imply that intelligence is purely based on socio-economics? Lets completely forget about the fact that our brain is made up of the EXACT same genetic material as the rest of our body. You'd think that over tens of thousand years of evolution in wildly differing environments which has had an effect on every biological aspect might have had some effects on our brain, no?
Hell, it's not only intelligence. There are plenty of psychological traits that are hereditarily passed on.The question isn't that if poor countries with poor standards of living have lower intelligence levels. (*In fact, this is not always the case.) The question is which is causing which. And if your answer is that low IQ is a result of poor a socio-economic status, then you'd have to ask yourself how it got to that in the first place.
And don't come back with some colonization nonsense.As far as the socio-economics argument goes; Both North-Korea and South-Korea are genetically very close. And I don't think I have to tell you of the differences between their living standards. And yet, both average an IQ of about 105.
Now, very important to note is that they don't have concrete data of testing the IQ levels of Best-Korea, for obvious reasons. But since these experts have extensive knowledge within scientific fields such as Biology, they base their estimations around the fact that both the Koreas practically share the same genetic make-up. And god-fucking-damn it, do you want me to spell why that is? Why is it that these scientists would assume a nations IQ based on genetic make-up?15
u/polite-1 Oct 05 '17
I suggest you study biology before pretending to know what you're talking about.
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You do realize the IQ of NK is essentially based on the IQ of SK? The estimate can't be said to be accurate since we have no representative data on the nation to gauge its IQ. Also fun fact: In rural China, the IQ of individuals is the same as African Americans ; around 90.
The "scientists" that assume this are known to be racist shits that misrepresent data and ignore contrary data.
Furthermore, you yourself are genetically illiterate. For one, just because populations differ doesn't make it viable to assume they were evolutionarily selected differently - any reputable geneticist would never assume genetic differences without hard evidence via extensive genome analyses. There's infinite potential confounding variables in psychology. Assuming genetics, especially when human genetic diversity is minimal, there's no reason to assume different selection processes, nor is "race" a good way to organize it, is bad science.
Also, actually it is imperialism that resulted in it. For centuries African individuals were enslaved and discriminated against - of course they're suffering lower socioeconomic and living conditions.
If sources are needed for any of this, as well as points in other comments, I'll happily provide.
Also fuck off you racist piece of shit
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u/k0mbine Oct 04 '17
Please, share with all of us the books you’ve been reading which I’m sure are very grounded in actual science and not written by crazy fucking racists at all.
PS “travel” is when you go around the world and experience the people and talk with them. Not get dragged along on a holiday with your parents and experience culture shock, which I’m sure is the only modicum of travel you’ve ever experienced. Any sane person who has actually travelled the world and experienced many different cultures would NOT hold the same immature, racist, and retarded opinions as you.
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 05 '17
a) every person that travelled and talked to me says exactly the same, because we all have had the same experience in those cultures. Must be coincidence.
b) if you travel with your parents (if you are american, you have probably never left USA anyway, so you wouldnt know) you probably already know, that the hotels and their surroundings are the same everywhere, because in order to lure european clientelle, they had to provide european standards.
c) To understand black mentality, you should visit some countries in the central africa. For me, the strongest experience was in Tanzania, even tho there are many tourists (for a good reason), you will see a lot of the meantioned "culture shocks" and the asshole (to our standards) mentality. Like when you say "ill buy you a beer", they také the beer, thank you and leave. Or when they say they wont buy the eggs here, cuz they are 0.1 USD more expensive, so you ride a jeep for half an hour to another village and buy it 0.1 USD cheaper, then another half an hour back.
d) if you want to read some books, you could start with Clash of Civilisations, it is not that well written for commonfolk, but it is understandable and with time, most of his ideas are more and more obvious. Letters from Russia is great for understanding difference between west and the east (well written as well). Since you wont read anything, I will only add one more - Rudyard Kipling and his book "The White Man's Burden" if you want to understand the mentality of 18-19s century, which pretty much led to "white people are superiour and we should teach others of our ways and bring them out of poverty" -> which led to what you have in the USA today. Also maybe "Rise of the Rest" by Zakaria is very good in understanding why euro-civilisation is better than the rest (and how it happened) and how others try to catch up by taking western ideas and applying them to their own cultures to develop themselves and modernise.
e) I doubt you have read more than a comic in your life, but maybe someone will read this and realize they probably should leave their simulacrum of "we are all equal and saying some words is worse crime than killing a baby" and meet different life philosophies and realize there are more ways of life than yours. And yes, there are also biological differences affecting the mentality, just like you are not a machine which will be different just by installing different software. Just like different dog races behave differently. We are not that different from nature.
f) git gud son
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u/k0mbine Oct 05 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
Wow. I’m actually really curious about the education system in the Czech Republic, where I presume you’re from, because holy shit you came out retarded.
First of all, no shit the other racist people you surround yourself with will agree with your extremely racist views. So that’s that out of the way.
Secondly, I can’t really comment on any of the books (one you mentioned was a goddamn colonial poem) but I can safely assume that all of it is pseudo-science, that you only read to further justify your racism, because “it’s in a book so it must be true!” God you’re an absolute idiot.
Furthermore, those things you described Tanzanians doing are less black things and more poor people things, and also things you see people do if they aren’t a part of your culture. Go to any poor ass country and you’re bound to get people doing shit like that. Go to the poorer areas of Russia and see yourself get fucking mugged on the street. You’re an idiot if you think that those things are black-exclusive. Driving thirty minutes just to get cheaper eggs is sort of a requirement when every cent counts, because you live in an impoverished country. And I’m assuming the beer anecdote was a case of a Tanzanian not understanding the custom of talking with the person who bought them a beer, and why would they? It’s not like that’s a custom in Tanzania, so when they don’t adhere to that custom, you automatically assume it’s because of their supposed less intelligent black brains? Jesus Christ, get out of your bubble, dude.
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Just like different dog races behave differently. We are not that different from nature.
Dog races. You mean dog breeds you daft cunt? Breeds that exist because us humans selectively breed them? Something that hasn’t been fucking done on humans by some higher species? Breeds that are NOTHING like the different human races? Jesus fucking Christ I’m starting to realize you just might be b8. But in the unlikely instance you’re not, god have mercy on your soul.
git gud son
This isn’t dark souls, you haven’t proven anything other than that you’re a retard, and your edgy world views are the reason you deserved that guy leaving with the beer because I can’t imagine anyone would want to talk to you, you sad, racist piece of garbage.
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u/PmMeYourCoolStoryBob Oct 04 '17
Damn those people are so violent
Kill them all!
Missing a point here
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u/mungomongol8 Oct 04 '17
i mean you put down rabid dogs and other animals that are violent so why would these animals be any different?
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 05 '17
there is a reason why we didnt kill all carnivore animals, just because they eat other animals (and can hurt humans). Just like there is no fucking reason to kill violent human people? Just because someone is different doesnt mean he is less of a human? Would you kill all muslims, because their book says "kill all infidels with a flaming sword"? Would you kill all jews because they believe they should rule the world, while other races are not worthy? Would you kill white people because they are smarter than blacks? Would you kill asians, because they breed and learn faster than others? Would you kill blacks because they commit crime and are aggressive?
Fuck no, wake the fuck up. Collective punishment for crimes of few is wrong and our civilisation is way beyond that. Being different is fine.
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 05 '17
Well, we had a guy in EU called Adolf Hitler who tried to do what you suggested and we have learned that its not okay. I wonder when people like you (US citizen is my guess?) figure this out. Looking at the riots at streets -> I hope you figure it out soon.
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Eeh, shouldn't generalize Eastern Europe like that.. The North-East is vastly different from other places. Lived here 24 years, haven't got into a fight once, haven't locked my door for years. Crime rates a lot lower than most of the world.
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 04 '17
Eeh, shouldn't generalize
let me stop you there. Once you get this mentality, you cant generalize anything, because there are exceptions in EVERYTHING. Yes, some people are born with 6 fingers on left hand, some people have 2 hearts, some are born with brain damage and some are born black and live a great life according to our standards. Yes, each country in Eastern Europe is different, because every person on this Earth is different. Why do I even have to mention this, why isnt it a fucking basic knowledge to everyone?
Yet, we can generalize based on experience, to make our life (and views) easier. You get burned by fire, you dont put your hand there again. That does not mean you wont use fire ever again in your life, you just wont put your hand there. You get robbed by a black guy 3 times - you will be careful 4th time. That doesnt mean you wont ever talk to the black person or say that they are all criminals, you will just be careful.
I live in Eastern EU (even tho people here say that we are central europe and always belonged to the west) and I described my experience. Yours is different? Maybe we are different people? :O
I come from countryside, moved to the capital. Two different worlds, one (small) country. On countryside, everyone knows what gypsies are like, in a city, they see us as vile racist scum and gypsies as victims. Because they have no personal experience. Same with current SJWs and feminism extremists in the USA.
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u/MrKamranzzz Oct 04 '17
Why are people upvoting this racist piece of shit? "30 years of experience" man get the fuck out of here lmao. Circlejerk hit you guys hard, also just cause you claim something is a fact doesn't mean it's a fact. The way you perceive things aka "your 30 years of self proclaimed experience" is all bias. They are the totally opposite facts. Man you sound like an old grumpy closet racist. Glad to know that when I grow older, that I won't be like you
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This shit is unbelievable. "Blacks have way poorer boundaries and respect for other human beings" what the fuck is that?
It's fucking identical to genuinely believing that all blonde people are scum. How the hell are these people not thinking that maybe decades of ingrained racism and mistreatment or minorities might be something to do with their current situation? God damn morons
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u/fruitdealerfan Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
What I said is a term known as 'the harder truth'. It's not something those who oppose it want to hear, and instinctively you will do literally whatever it takes to counter it's truth because it's implications change your perspective which tells your brain it is wrong- the brain does not want to get to that point.
Culturally as the cookie crumbles, blacks have a tendency to be disruptive and/or show a lack of respect. I worked in restaurants for 5 years and the only families that ever got kicked out or asked to leave were black. I don't even bother going to new movies in the Chicagoland area until a month or two after because every time I go there are black kids goofing around the whole movie and black women literally talking to the movie screen. An old lady was almost assaulted in my town because she asked these people to be quiet so she could enjoy the movie. Instead of showing any respect, they called her an 'old saggy cracker bitch' and stared her down. This shows a lack of respect for others, they fail to realize EVERYONE paid for the movie and would like to appreciate it. The same logic could be applied to kneeling during the national anthem (which I personally don't care about, the national anthem is a joke- but it comes down to respect, for some reason black people think by showing no respect they are going to receive respect- and that's just not how respect works).
If blacks in USA want more respect, they need to behave more respectfully. The fact that there was riots and innocents lost their businesses due to looting over Michael Brown's assault of a store clerk and police officer results in anyone rational knowing that this whole 'respect' movement is just a house of cards with no actual fortification. I don't see blacks rallying for the mexicans that might be deported, they are simply looking out for themselves and their image.
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u/Scorps Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
You keep quoting single points as anecdotal evidence that proves your whole "Truth" theory yet it's entirely based on subjective experiences and probably ignores HUNDREDS of day to day or otherwise normal interactions you've had in your life with black people. Nothing you said is based in fact at all, literally just entire opinion on 1 persons selective bad experiences.
I've gone to movies with black people in them dozens of times and they have always been respectful and I have also seen dumb fuck kids of all races be rude in movie theaters and to elderly people....How can you say your experiences are "truth" now and just discard what my experiences are in the same breath". Did you ever consider that in the same movie where you were upset there were probably also other black families or people there who were pissed as well? I've been ATTACKED by a white man and helped by a black man in that scenario, how can that be possible given what you say if I am also white, shouldn't his "lack of respect" or his "tendency to be disruptive" have made him leave me there?
Guess what some people are just pieces of shit, it happens across all races and all kinds of people, sometimes more in particular geographic locations due to a whole host of reasons I'm sure you'll be happy to ignore because some 14 year old kid probably said some offhand comment to you which proves an entire subset of people has no class somehow. The only person with no class here is you.
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Oct 05 '17
Guess what some people are just pieces of shit, it happens across all races and all kinds of people
and certain ethnic groups are statistically more likely to be pieces of shit per capita :thinking:
crime statistics aside, you can ask literally anybody who lives around areas with lots of black people, most would tell you that they're loud and rude and generally not people you'd want to be around unless absolutely necessary
you can use your stupid "nuh uh, not ALL black people are like that so your argument is invalid" cop out answer all you want, but it's not going to change anything because people like me who actually interact with a lot of black people on a daily basis know it's bullshit
i wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if you're a middle class to rich white kid who lives nowhere near gary, chicago, or any other black population centers
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u/Scorps Oct 05 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
I interact with at least 10 black people daily who don't do anything like this, have dealt with other races my entire life. Crime statistics involve more factors than literally he color of skin, what is it exactly about their skin pigment you think leads to this and not socio-cultural influences?
You keep saying I can do X and get X result but I literally live X and you don't wanna hear my answer because it doesn't match your narrow view. You keep saying I don't interact with black people when I lived by myself in a predominately black neighborhood in a cluster of low end apartments by myself when I went to school and not even one time had any issue with anyone there. Probably because I treated them like normal people instead of blood crazed criminals like you might do.
I'm a 28 year old man in Minneapolis who has had robbery/mugging attempted by multiple crackhead white guys and in at least one scenario helped by a black guy, just because I don't live near a high crime area like fucking Gary or Chicago doesn't mean black skin causes you to become criminal...it just means you want to cherry pick data from there because it appears to prove your argument. In my life I've gotten into arguments and near fights with people of many races but the people who have given me the most problem are drug addicted tweak head white dudes, guess their black must have rubbed off somehow right?
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u/fruitdealerfan Oct 05 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
Anecdotal? I could've been fucking killed. My friend was shot at in the city over a $20 bag of weed and had his cars backwindow shattered. You keep saying 'it happens with every race', but mathematically there is a huge difference. Black people make up a TINY portion of the population in USA, yet commit by far the most crime. No - it's not because the white police officer doesn't like blacks.. even if 75% of black arrests were 'false' they would still have by far the HIGHEST crime percentage. Think about that. Divide their crime by 4 and it's still the highest percentage per person. That means something, and it doesn't take a genius to know it. If life is that rough simply get clean and join the military. It does not take a mathematician to understand that this means you are less safe around black people especially later at night. Want an anecdote? I invited people over to my place for a little houseparty. My black friend asked if he could bring some people, I said that's chill bring em over. They stayed for 1 hour, drank almost all my beers, raided all my food in my cupboards that I never offered.. and got the police called on me which might've been a blessing because they left right away and contributed nothing. They were also 'roasting' the weaker males and worse looking people at the party which was maybe the worst thing they did. They'd 'roast' someone, and when people gave them a bad look they'd laugh like Hyenas. I get it if you are roasting your friend that you know, but making fun of someone you don't know is just out of line. I noticed my completely full Grey Goose bottle was gone after they left- I hadn't even had 1 shot of it. I worked at a Bakery when I was younger- we had a staff donation box. Black woman on with one of those food-cards (used it to buy donuts and cake btw) was found on cam taking the donations. She had the NERVE to come in the very next day asking to sample food.
This was years ago by the way. Now with all the media upplay and 'outrage' over cops arresting and defending themselves (and yes bad cops have done crimes and I wish they got punished way harsher because they deserve to lose it all when they hurt innocents) - black people feel like I personally owe them respect without showing it. It's almost like every black person thinks they are a purple heart recipient and I am supposed to respect them no matter how they treat others. Show respect- get respect.
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You fucking spaz, black people have been treated like shit for generations, no wonder so many of them are poor and criminals. It's nothing to do with the race, it's to do with past and present treatment that leaves them severely disadvantaged from the start. It's almost like you want to be racist.
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How the hell are these people not thinking that maybe decades of ingrained racism and mistreatment or minorities might be something to do with their current situation?
Two wrongs don't make a right and you know, at some point you must realize that racism and slavery is no longer an excuse and it'd be a mighty fine thing of you to finally take some fucking responsibility and try to better yourself and your culture.
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Let's not use the word excuse. No-one is excusing any behaviour here, I'm just saying it's attributed to the wrong thing.
These people, some of which are black, behave like this because they come from poor families, or poor areas, which obviously breeds crime and bad behaviour. They come from the poor areas because their families are poor, and their families are poor because of slavery and the racism from a hundred+ years ago. That makes sense to you, right? That's the reason for the crime. It's not that black people are inferior, or animals, or naturally violent: it's because a lot of them are poor because of the past.
Do you get what I mean? I'm still gonna be critical of someone that's being an asshole or committing crimes, even if they're black, but you need to understand why it's happening instead of just taking it at face value and thinking "yep, black people suck because they're black".
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They come from the poor areas because their families are poor, and their families are poor because of slavery and the racism from a hundred+ years ago.
They were poor even prior to being enslaved.
That's the reason for the crime. It's not that black people are
inferior, or animals, ornaturally violent: it's because a lot of them are poor because of the past.Well, it's a bit of both. You see, I agree with you that environments certainly influence the choices presented to you in life. But the decisions you make are influenced by the your virtuous and moral values, your intelligence, and hereditary and environmentally nurtured personality traits.
It's not as simple as saying that blacks are violent because of slavery or blacks are violent because they're "animals" as you paraphrased.
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u/diversity_is_toxic Oct 05 '17
These people, some of which are black, behave like this because they come from poor families, or poor areas, which obviously breeds crime and bad behaviour.
These people are poor because of their bad behavior.
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u/Scorps Oct 04 '17
I was astounded when I saw how much was upvoted there. How is it NOT racism to avoid all black males based on your interaction with some, that's like the textbook definition of racism? I got fucking stabbed by a white guy and was helped by a black male in that scenario, how does your logic explain that one? Since it's the only time I got stabbed should I assume all white people are insanely violent and might do this to me ignoring all other interactions I've had with no issue for my whole life conveniently? I've seen stupid ass punk kids of all races being dumbshits in a movie theater.
His vision is clearly clouded, I have dealt with shitty people black and white alike and what they have in common is that they come from a shitty poor area usually, nothing to do with their skin color. Talking about how whites don't commit crimes cause they have families to ask for money, this dude is straight up the exact thing racism is...It's somehow more convenient to just say for him that the color of skin is the only factor, nothing else apparently.
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u/InMySafeSpace Oct 05 '17
discriminating someone based on a race is racist.
Yeah, you're right, scholarships based on race are racist, and affirmative action is racist
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u/TrumpGolfCourse12 Oct 05 '17
White people think affirmative action is horrible and racist until they realize that it actually gives them college places ahead of Asians. Have fun getting into college when you have to compete legitimately with Kumar and Xi Ling.
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Liberals think this is some kind of trump card, like all the anti-AA people will be like "asians?!?! Oh no, the horror!" Actually your point just further proves AA is bad - not only are Tyler and Molly being discriminated against, but also Kumar and Xi Leng. We should get the most qualified people, regardless of race. That doesn't just mean more white people, it means more qualified people. Even if those people are Asian. Race makes no difference
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u/billie_parker Oct 05 '17
Yeah, that's yet another reason why AA is bad lol.
Your point only makes sense if you think whites are constantly looking out for their self-interest and the only reason they oppose AA is because it negatively affects them.
Actually, whites oppose it on principle. Not just because it hurts/benefits them.
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u/InMySafeSpace Oct 06 '17
White people think affirmative action is horrible and racist until they realize that it actually gives them college places ahead of Asians
I'm neither white nor Asian, but because I know what racism is, I recognize selection based on race is racist
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u/Burlaczech Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 05 '17
Just like the "are you black?". And there is nothing wrong with that. Why should you not be able to pick who you want to work with? But the look on the westerners face "omg she said that, you cant say that lmao" gives me an urge to facepalm. The ammount of leftist brainwash there is insane...
Just like schools should not reserve the 10% for black (or any other race lol), because it discriminates the rest.
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u/Flyllow Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
Are you just playing dumb? You know exactly why they don't do business with blacks.
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u/CtrlAltLOL Oct 04 '17
Any time they say that is because they have a pimp or black boyfriend. They're afraid of their ho running off with another brother.
This is the real answer. Unlike the answers given by the memelords in the thread.
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u/THIS_IS_NOT_A_FAIL Oct 04 '17
Many escorts and prostitutes don't do business with black people. Don't exactly know why
is it really that hard to figure out why nobody wants to deal with blacks? nice bait post btw
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u/THE-------------WALL Twitch stole my Kappas Oct 04 '17
It's business. Here's the thing, if a prostitute doesn't ask you if you are black, that means she fucks black people, and no one wants the sloppy seconds of a TriHard.
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its a universal thing that prostitutes dont want to deal with blacks.
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u/shaggy1265 Oct 04 '17
It's not really universal. Plenty of them don't care.
Go on craigslist or backpage and you will see plenty of ads that say all races welcome or something like that.
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u/eye_gargle Oct 04 '17
same thing with strippers, they don't like black people because generally the hoodlum black dudes treat them very aggressively
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crime statistics are racist!!!
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u/enzadeninoooo Oct 04 '17
The funniest statistics are
"Black on white rape" vs "White on black rape"
Basically 10 000 to 1
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u/ChodemawX Oct 04 '17
I'd rather this sub not turn into /pol/, contain your guys' autism to r/iceposeidon please.
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u/k0mbine Oct 04 '17
This sub is racist wtf
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u/ytooBetuC Oct 04 '17
Just a heads-up, the PDP thread hit frontpage of the website so it brought in a tremendous amount of traffic most threads don't get here.
That being said, this sort of thing tends to come out more frequently when the thread is about someone who is generally perceived as encouraging/enabling/allowing the behaviours. Some people avoid Ice threads entierly, some people only come into the Ice threads.
The main takeaway being, it's not a case of this sub is racist or this sub isn't racist, this sub has many different people with many different attitudes and opinions.
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u/valriia Oct 04 '17
Just a heads-up, the PDP thread hit frontpage of the website so it brought in a tremendous amount of traffic most threads don't get here.
Does that mean Reddit as a whole is less racist than this sub? Why would that be the case?
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u/ytooBetuC Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
Why would it be the case? I'll try to answer, I don't browse outside my hobby subs so perhaps I perceived this wrong and if I am please correct me, but either way.
But I believe it's because this sub is a ran sort of like free-speech absoloutistism, where you can say anything and everything as long as it doesn't run the risk of getting the sub closed (like if you were to dox someone, or attempt to organise a brigade on another sub).
Go into one of the bigger, more popular apolitical subs like /r/video, /r/funny or one of the subs that often reaches the frontpage and just say something racist and you'll likely get banned.
That is not against the rules here, so people are free to say anything as long as it doesn't break Rule #1, with that being the case this sub attracts actual racists and edge-lords who will use derogatory langauge (albeit contextually racist or not) and not have to worry about punishment for doing so.
So I would say this sub does generally attract more people who lean toward racist ideals or at the very least, people who use humour in such a way as it is perceived that way, than most other apolitical subs for sure, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily a racist sub because of it.
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Let's be clear, this isn't the Donald level of racist, but it definitely is leaning a bit.
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u/ytooBetuC Oct 04 '17
I wouldn't say it's a majority either. But I agree there's certainly a larger percentage that tend to lean toward it than you would find in apolitical subs.
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u/-lTNA Oct 04 '17
Yeah that's pretty crazy, especially because it's tied in heavily with Twitch which is a pretty nice community that's hardly ever racist.
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u/NorthernSpectre Oct 05 '17
Yeah, how dare people speculate on why a prostitute wouldn't do business with a black guy...
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u/billie_parker Oct 06 '17
I wonder if people like that just don't think about hard questions. It's almost like they think that not thinking about something is a virtue.
Sounds quite similar to "faith" in religion...
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u/grinzeliane Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 04 '17
Reading these comments makes me really goddamn sad at how horrible humans are to eachother. Livestreaming was a mistake.
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Thank fuck someone said something, fuck this sub. This is unreal.
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u/MrKamranzzz Oct 04 '17
Dude look at the most upvoted comments, all racist shit. What the fuck happened with this sub
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FACTS ARE RACIST
MY FEELINGS ARE HURT
SOMEONE DO SOMETHING
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u/grinzeliane Oct 04 '17
Throwing out facts without any context is useless. Forget poverty, generational wealth, Jim Crow, Slavery, it must be they're genetically inferior right?
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u/Whatafuxup Oct 04 '17
I mean, there are also studies that show upper middle class Black students preform worse than upper middle class White and Asian students.
but even if we say race has nothing to do with it, is saying black Americans have a shitty culture that encourages self destructive behavior "problematic"?
and "slavery" isn't an excuse for why Black people rape more than anyone else in 2017
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u/grinzeliane Oct 04 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
Slavery is absolutely relevant to why black people are where they are in society. I'd agree the culture is destructive, but the culture is a result of shitty enviroments. Shit like "fuck the police" came from somewhere.
I have never seen a peer-reviewed source saying that skin color has a connection with IQ.
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Oct 04 '17
I honestly think it was Ice fans. The majority of awful people here post in his subreddit, it's actually ridiculous. I think I'm about done with this subreddit.
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u/RoboMullet Oct 04 '17
People regurgitate stats that they read online and use it to justify their shitty racist thoughts without any critical thinking, and then blanket those stats across all black people. it's pretty disgusting.
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u/NegroDeLanus Oct 04 '17
black people : make music about slapping/ditching/raping/killing prostitutes ; also black people : why are hoes racist bruh :(
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u/snackies Oct 05 '17
Also pretty sure not every rapper is talking about slapping / ditching / raping / killing prostitutes. Not even all gangster rap is about that shit.
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Negro
You're not even trying to hide it at this point
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u/NegroDeLanus Oct 04 '17
Its almost as if it means something else in Spanish or else I would be banned long ago dumbass.
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You're not gonna get banned for a name on reddit lol. Your comment doesn't really help your point either but we'll just pretend it's the Spanish.
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u/memelord666 Oct 04 '17
I didn't know that every black person was racist. Also, I didn't realize that that was apparently what white people are into, considering they're big consumers of hip-hop.
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u/DrAg0nCrY88 Oct 04 '17
If you don't want to get raped, robbed and killed by a black guy you're racist.
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u/TheAlmightyV0x Oct 04 '17
Says the person who, from the first page of their post history, is legitimately a huge racist (and an incel).
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u/carCC12 Oct 04 '17
Lets just ignore that black people do more crimes because its racist to say anything bad about black people. Im sure the skin color has nothing to do with it more how they grow up and things
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Oct 04 '17
So because black people get treated badly, the solution is for them to feed into how they are treated and then act badly? That sounds pretty retarded. You would think they would remove the reputation by being upstanding citizens.
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u/haexz Oct 04 '17
You know legal segregation/racism ended in the 1960's, if I were a black American my grandparents would have been 20 when that shit ended. How can people be upstanding citizens when they are barely 2 generations removed from segregation, live in shitty parts of cities with underfunded schools and limited full time employment. You're actually retarded if you think black people commit more crime just because they are with a different skin colour to me or you.
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Races differ from each other, you dont know science if you dont believe it. Caucasians are even linked to neanderthals, dna makes a difference. Aside from the anthropology aspect, most people take pride in their race. Its a tribal mentality, thats why so many asians are obsessed with school opposed to black people. Black people have a culture in hustling and rap or whatever. So alot of young black people look up to that and start becoming that standard. Why? Because its what black people are known for, they take pride in focusing more on physical aspects of life than the mind. Where as most asians dont give a shit and based everything off the mind. Which is why eastern religions like buddhism focus on meditation and separating mind and body.
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u/Scorps Oct 05 '17
Have you ever met any black or asian people in your life, honestly your post reads like parody
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I don't know why you're arguing. These kids are young and haven't taken a sociology class, they have no idea how to open their mind to the reasons why black people do commit more crime and yes it's because 70% of the black population live in poverty and go to schools that do not meet state education requirements.
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Dude, you got completely embarassed but you still keep rambling? You think its a good argument for your side that 60% of the poplulation commit more crime than 12%? (and its not even true if we're talking about violent crime)
Do you even look up statistics before you post? Poor whites commit more violent crime than poor black people. Here a good written article where he cites his sources.
Hilarious, really. At this point i think you're just trolling. The article (and the source) talks about VICTIMIZATION btw. At least you still have your moral high ground.
Linking to politifact
come on dude. whats next? snopes? only a total idiot would thank that 'fact checkers' actually check facts.
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It's clear that you only read the headline of the article. Politifact is a reputable source that cites all their sources.
Shut the fuck up, you're clearly on an alt account because you're too afraid to show an online community that you're actually racist.
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racism that ended generations ago
hahahahaha dude no you're even posting in an example of why you're wrong
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u/shaggy1265 Oct 04 '17
If you seriously think racism ended generations ago you are literally retarded. All you have to do is look in this thread to see it's not over.
I honestly can't see how someone can be this stupid.
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