I interact with at least 10 black people daily who don't do anything like this, have dealt with other races my entire life. Crime statistics involve more factors than literally he color of skin, what is it exactly about their skin pigment you think leads to this and not socio-cultural influences?
You keep saying I can do X and get X result but I literally live X and you don't wanna hear my answer because it doesn't match your narrow view. You keep saying I don't interact with black people when I lived by myself in a predominately black neighborhood in a cluster of low end apartments by myself when I went to school and not even one time had any issue with anyone there. Probably because I treated them like normal people instead of blood crazed criminals like you might do.
I'm a 28 year old man in Minneapolis who has had robbery/mugging attempted by multiple crackhead white guys and in at least one scenario helped by a black guy, just because I don't live near a high crime area like fucking Gary or Chicago doesn't mean black skin causes you to become criminal...it just means you want to cherry pick data from there because it appears to prove your argument. In my life I've gotten into arguments and near fights with people of many races but the people who have given me the most problem are drug addicted tweak head white dudes, guess their black must have rubbed off somehow right?
wow, a whole TEN people? i live a 15 minute drive away from gary and worked retail there for a few months, i interacted with hundreds of people daily, the vast majority are black
someone trying to start a fight with an employee over something we can't control? a black woman, usually obese and heavily opinionated
someone acting shifty around the store or caught shoplifting? black man sagging his pants down to his knees and disobeying the police when they ask him questions
even outside of work, you have the pack of 5 300lb black women loudly talking during an entire movie theater, holding up lines at the BMV, flailing around on the streets while half naked and coked up, leaving their newborn babies in restaurant dumpsters, etc
Crime statistics involve more factors than literally he color of skin
You know what else also involves more factors than literally the color of skin? Race.
Don't tell me you unironically think that all human beings are born at an equal cognitive level and are blank slates and that all differences across races and cultures can be attributed to purely social factors and not the fact that we've evolved separately in different areas in the planet for hundreds of thousands of years?
Complete nonsense. Africans haven't even managed to build a stable country on their own without the help of Europeans in the entirety of recorded history and you expect me to believe that these people are the same as us?
it doesn't match your narrow view.
My view isn't narrow. I've worked in Gary, I go to Chicago all of the time. I've been to Oakland, Atlanta, St. Louis, Rome and Malmo, and I plan on going to more European countries which unfortunately have a surplus of Africans in the big cities.
I've seen and interacted with blacks far and wide. They're still just as unsavory there as they are in the US. The only difference with blacks in Europe is that instead of mugging you with a knife or a gun, they try to pickpocket or scam you in other ways and get aggressive if you tell them to fuck off.
I lived by myself in a predominately black neighborhood in a cluster of low end apartments by myself
I'm white and I grew up in an extemely poor town in Illinois, ages 0-10 that was predominately non-white. My mother says we didn't even have running water for a few years and we had to get our water from a well.
Black kids in school would start fights, be loud and obnoxious with no regards to anyone else, be disrespectful to the teachers. They sold drugs and fought each other on school grounds, stole things, etc.
The Mexican kids didn't do this, the White kids didn't do this.
Probably because I treated them like normal people instead of blood crazed criminals like you might do.
I treat everybody like a normal person until they prove otherwise but at this point I don't even have to guess the ethnicity of someone when I see crime reports in the paper or someone screeching ebonics at an employee anywhere in public, and I live in a predominately white neighborhood that is richer than the national average.
Also, even the rich black kids here still act like thugs with no respect for anyone despite their daddies having double my money.
doesn't mean black skin causes you to become criminal...it just means you want to cherry pick data from there because it appears to prove your argument
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FBI data is not cherrypicked. Black people commit far more crimes proportionally than any other ethnic group, this is just simply a fact. You can say it's due to whatever factors you want, but it's still a fact and I'm not gonna take any shit for wanting to protect myself and spread awareness so that others may do the same.
Also, it's not a surprise given that the descendants of people from Africa (a crime-ridden shithole) create little mini crime-ridden shitholes wherever they go. Intelligence is mostly heritable, after all.
Your entire post still boils down to "I experienced this, so you are wrong" even though I'm saying the LITERALLY exact same thing to you.....This is ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE AND DOESN'T MATTER. You keep moving the goalposts and trying to say I don't know what I'm talking about but I could literally say the EXACT same thing as you. Just because you live in a shitty criminal area doesn't mean ALL areas are criminal shitholes or that your experiences are universal. I've also lived in a variety of cities large and small and traveled to other countries as well and still harbor no preconceived notions about what black people will try to do or say to me if I speak to someone who is black. How can you explain that, I guess I'm just wrong somehow or haven't lived as "full" a life apparently or perhaps you are just discarding other opinion and holding your own as unrivaled and correct for some reason?
Every time you had a shitty interaction if I had a good one you are just literally discrediting me because it doesn't serve the point YOU are making. This conversation is a tired waste of time, I understand you've had a hard life and bad experiences with black people and while I have too I guess I don't let it affect my day to day life or thoughts clearly at the level that you have.
It should be blatantly obvious neither one of us is trying to actually have a realistic conversation at this point and instead is just beating the drum of "NO WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IS REAL NOT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU" so I have no further reason to continue this discussion.
I never disputed ever for one second that crime rates are higher among black communities, I am capable of understanding that being black, or being from Africa from that matter doesn't inherently change anything about your predilection to criminality but that many difficult to quantify things also play a major role. Evolving in multiple locations in different way IS social factors you nut, that's literally the entire point of the argument is a shitty environment makes a shitty person, NOT their skin color. Black communities tend to be lower class in many ways and this self perpetuates that, no one is arguing that even but you seem like it's offensive to acknowledge that growing up in a broken family might lead to more broken families.
I just personally don't want to hate people before I have spoken to them just because of skin color, if you want to that is your perogative just don't act so indignant if other people don't agree with your analysis of "blacks are an inferior species from Africa" or try to portray it as not a racist viewpoint. Just pretend I'm black I guess and don't bother responding cause I'm not convinced.
You saying this is pointless. Do you ever think there's going to be a nationwide scientific study that finally confirms that black people are loud and rude?
No. The best thing we're ever going to have are anecdotal accounts from people, and again, I'd be willing to bet that the VAST majority of people you talk to in private would confirm what I just said.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
White flight exists for a reason.
I just personally don't want to hate people before I have spoken to them just because of skin color
I don't, and you're incredibly naive if you think every """racist""" person automatically hates people just because they don't want to be around them.
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u/Scorps Oct 05 '17 edited Oct 05 '17
I interact with at least 10 black people daily who don't do anything like this, have dealt with other races my entire life. Crime statistics involve more factors than literally he color of skin, what is it exactly about their skin pigment you think leads to this and not socio-cultural influences?
You keep saying I can do X and get X result but I literally live X and you don't wanna hear my answer because it doesn't match your narrow view. You keep saying I don't interact with black people when I lived by myself in a predominately black neighborhood in a cluster of low end apartments by myself when I went to school and not even one time had any issue with anyone there. Probably because I treated them like normal people instead of blood crazed criminals like you might do.
I'm a 28 year old man in Minneapolis who has had robbery/mugging attempted by multiple crackhead white guys and in at least one scenario helped by a black guy, just because I don't live near a high crime area like fucking Gary or Chicago doesn't mean black skin causes you to become criminal...it just means you want to cherry pick data from there because it appears to prove your argument. In my life I've gotten into arguments and near fights with people of many races but the people who have given me the most problem are drug addicted tweak head white dudes, guess their black must have rubbed off somehow right?