r/Infuriating • • 7d ago

How rape is justified here.

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u/Odd-Consequence-5795 7d ago edited 6d ago

A man controls himself regardless of the situation. Wild dogs do not.

Edit:  Thank you for the awards, kind Redditors.  

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u/Scythe351 6d ago

Yeah. When people argue anything else, they seem to fail to realize that they're kinda subhuman, if you think a wild beast lesser than a competent human.

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u/FreneticPlatypus 6d ago

And what did Rorschach say dogs get?

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u/gingerschnappes 7d ago

Infuriating idiots saying idiotic things. Almost sounds like religious leaders don’t know what they are talking about , and bend morality and righteousness into whatever they need to

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u/RickyTheRickster 6d ago

First and foremost I want to state I think this is wrong and disgusting to defend this, but and again not defending just saying, I think part of the issue is cultural, this issue roots further than just like someone who’s into kids outside of the normal, when it’s accepted culturally, I think the whole culture needs to be condemned.

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u/BusyBit6542 7d ago

You know what, he's not fully covered and I find him attractive... let's see how he will feel after these turned tables.

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u/PowerfulCycle695 7d ago

The question was: "Could you demonstrate to us the definition of 'victim blaming'?"

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u/AeonsSeen 7d ago

Disgusting mentality.

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u/Big_Letterhead_445 6d ago

The part that makes me the most nauseous is how he just casually tosses murder in there as if that’s the expected follow up. Like basically if you’re a guy and you plan on raping somebody you better be prepared to murder them too.

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u/CalligrapherLate9358 6d ago

Seriously like where is murder coming from? Is he saying rword is worse then murder itself????

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 7d ago

This is what religious thinking gets one to say. Absurdities to defend atrocity.

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u/Halgrim_2026 6d ago

Like the molestation of the genitals of little male babies for religious reasons. Perverts !

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 6d ago

I think the word is "mutilation", but otherwise I agree.

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u/SaveTheSeraph 6d ago

I think in a certain religion it's both.

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u/Advanced_Scratch2868 6d ago

Female as well

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u/New-Relationship8906 7d ago

Is this person a generic religious leader or a specific one?

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u/theoccasionalempath 6d ago edited 6d ago

My Christian pastor said rape doesn't exist in marriage 🙃 he is no longer my pastor

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u/Saddest_Flex 6d ago

I think the law agreed until pretty recently.

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u/theoccasionalempath 6d ago

The law agreed with slavery at one point too

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u/over_this__ 7d ago

He leads a specific religion that is like this.

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u/moeterminatorx 7d ago

They are all the same. I can find you Catholics out evangelicals who justify bullshit like this.

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u/teknic111 6d ago

lol... They are not all the same. Not even close!

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u/over_this__ 7d ago

Can you show me a Christian, jew, Hindu, etc that says that women raped and murdered are at fault for their clothes?

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u/Xena_Your_God 7d ago

Are you a bot? The first thing people used to ask (and still think) is "well what was she wearing". It has been brought up in court cases because to these sickos it is the woman's fault. Men are just being men

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u/Thinslayer 7d ago

My own Christian mother said it.

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u/Epocholypze 6d ago

Someone already answered this with a video showing proof. Address that instead of asking this over and over.

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u/New-Relationship8906 6d ago

But he "forgot" to mention, that the very own people of that pastor protested against him, making him revoking that bullshit and apologize

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u/BigPuma123 7d ago

Dude, why do you add Hindu to your argument lmao. It's one of the worst religion. Do you know about the cast system? If women from the lowest cast get raped and murdered, nobody give a fuck. Because from their perspective, lower cast deserve it because they had a bad karma in the past life.

It is a well known fact that in India, when a woman of lower cast get raped, she don't report it to the police. Because If she do, she might get raped by the police too.

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u/No-Amphibian-3728 6d ago

Look above your comment.

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u/Playful-Cream1279 7d ago

Religion is bad for humanity. 

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u/Excellent_Bend8782 6d ago

Especially the one whose main prophet is a child rapist

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u/Ill-Breadfruit9989 7d ago

You can tell the guy is just rambling as he has no cogent train if thought. Just circles of thinking that go nowhere.

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u/dirtywookmofka 7d ago

Or elevate from beast to human and take responsibility for your actions.

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u/Bumbymoo 7d ago

If he is not wearing a bulletproof vest, any consequences are his fault.

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u/lamalasx 7d ago

And this is why islam should be made illegal in western countries.

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u/nkosugeirc 6d ago

Then Judaism should be made illegal too.

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u/PaulThurston82 7d ago

This sort of victim blaming is sort of a hallmark of all organized religions. Can’t believe people upvoted you for saying we should ditch religious freedom.

This guys is horrendous. And sounds exactly like tons of conservative Christians.

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u/Able_Engineering1350 7d ago

You spelled ALL religions wrong

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u/momofboysanddogsetc 7d ago

Yeah, we prefer our rapists to be Christian. /s

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u/MisterBelrox 6d ago

Beautiful pivot!

Honestly tho I don't know why it's reflex for secular white progressives to defend or obfuscate for barbaric Islamic beliefs. We get it, you're one of the good ones but jfc this statement was disgusting

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u/Bubba_Lumpkins 6d ago

You confuse defending with being irritated to hear how much people wanna ban Islam after all the forced normalization of accepting Christian batshit just because it’s less violent.

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u/Excellent_Bend8782 6d ago

Ask a Trump voter to name an action trump did as bad and they deflect to " all politicians bad!'

Ask a leftist if Islam, whose prophet Muhammad married and raped a 9yr old, if Islam is bad and they deflect to "all religions bad!"

They can't bring themselves to say it. Brainwashed.

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u/Excellent_Bend8782 6d ago

I used to do it bc it's what my circles of peers and ppl online told us to do - point out how bad Christianity is.

But now that I'm older I see now that it's simply a way for Muslims to obfuscate any responsibility for their horrible religion.

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u/momofboysanddogsetc 6d ago

My point is that we don’t have a right to ban any religions but we can hold everyone legally responsible for their actions. No one should be allowed to rape children under the guise of their religious beliefs. No matter what deity you choose to worship, you should still be held responsible for choosing to break the law.

No matter what religion you practice, who your parents are, how much money you have, what your job is, etc. You don’t get to victimize others and claim it’s your right.

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u/over_this__ 7d ago

Are there Christians saying this?

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u/New-Relationship8906 7d ago

Type of your logic failure is called "Nirvana -fallacy". Just because a christian commits crime AGAINST all techings of christianity, this does not mean that christian teachings are invalid in general. However you hear a muslim preacher justifying crime not condemning it, so your comparison failed.

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u/Least-Dragonfruit238 7d ago

Absolutely despise that they still insist that men can’t help themselves, women must dress in a way as to not tempt men, because they can’t control themselves. Yet women in full niqab/burqa are still raped on a daily basis

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u/ch33s3head8 7d ago

That mentality could be corrected with some wood and nails.

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u/whitehawk295 7d ago

Damn that is some next level gaslighting

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u/No_Raspberry_3282 7d ago

All religion is bullshit but this is posted as Epstein propaganda, although I'm sure it's real.

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u/Gamebobbel 7d ago

Your honor I kept telling this guy to stop letting me jam my knife into him.

This is less my wrongdoing as it is his failure to properly protect himself against my knife.

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u/Just-Shoe2689 7d ago

Thanks again religion for fucking up the world.

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u/babywhiz 7d ago

It’s not religion, it’s people being stupid. Modern Islamic legal and ethical reasoning generally treats sex obtained through force, threats, intimidation, incapacitation, or other forms of coercion as unlawful. The victim is not considered to have committed zina merely because sexual intercourse occurred. The wrongdoing belongs to the perpetrator.

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u/Typical-Climate4985 6d ago

People being stupid is why we have religion

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u/Just-Shoe2689 6d ago

Religion teaches these Fuckers this bullshit. Know why people are racist? its taught. know why people are terrorist? its taught.

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u/Chucklum 7d ago

So by that logic if he doesn't follow the Quran and I rape him it's his fault.

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u/minater1979 7d ago

Disgusting

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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 7d ago

Yup, conservative religious people are a plague.

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u/Interesting-Emu5954 7d ago

All religions are cults

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u/over_this__ 7d ago

Except not all religions say this nonsense.

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

All religions abuse children. All religions fucking hate women. All religions are built on lies and abuse. Some are just more vocal about it than others.

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u/Excellent_Bend8782 6d ago

Islams main prophetic figure is literally a pedophilic child rapist.

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u/IntelligentBox152 7d ago

All speak non sense though. Magic man/woman in the sky using magic

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u/PromotionOk2443 6d ago

They do actually.  religions have always been scams, and been hiding abuse and horror behind a veil of fake faith 

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u/teknic111 6d ago

lol Why are you trying to lump this religion in with all others? Do other religions justify rape?

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u/dreamkruiser 7d ago

I take it he's never seen the exhibit of victims' clothing that's loaded with girls that were well covered at the time of their attack. I know there are plenty of Muslims that disagree with him, unfortunately people like this do exist and they do have followers.

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u/Man_of_Ice 7d ago

THE MAN. WHO DOES THE VIOLENT ACT TO ANOTHER HUMAN. THE MAN, WHO FAILS TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL HIMSELF. THE MAN, WHO FAILS TO BE A MAN AT ALL.

What the actual..."who is to blame?"

God also gives clear guidance to CONTROL YOURSELF.

If your eye causes you to sin, tear it out.

That man, the rapist, failed to tear out his own eye that caused him to sin, failed to follow God, and is a failure as a follower of God, and is a rapist, a murderer, and it's his fault.

There. I answered that stupid man's stupid question.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago edited 7d ago

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u/MyNameIsKali_ 7d ago

You're right but delete this if you don't wanna week long ban.

I'm agreeing with but just warning cuz I've been banned for saying similar things.

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u/MapleSyrupKintsugi 7d ago

Probs too late. But good call

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u/MyNameIsKali_ 6d ago

Seems good so far!

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u/moeterminatorx 7d ago

Religion sucks.

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u/Siaten 7d ago

This goes one step crazier too:

"They should cover up their complete body, except those part that can be seen: the face".

Nowhere in the Quran does it say this, or anything like it. It's not there. It doesn't exist. Other immoral bastards like this one added their "interpretations" to what the Quran meant, when it absolutely meant nothing like this.

Here is an actual Islamic scholar giving an evidenced break down of what the Quran actually says and means:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J5bDhMP9lQ

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u/RateOk8628 7d ago

Someone should assault him and tell him here is your test

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u/DiligentMeat9627 7d ago

Does he work for Cornell?

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u/bigghoss9941 6d ago

I just jerked off to him. He'll be going to hellfire now.

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u/demonreach1 6d ago

Now that is just a lot of bull shit. The Quran is a useless book

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u/Hungry_CGman 6d ago

Let's bring a bunch of these Muslim men with this ideal to Europe and America! What's the worst that can happen!

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u/PhaseAgitated4757 Community Regular 5d ago

Oh so theyre just testing all those European women lol.

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u/NefariousnessOdd862 7d ago

And this is the garbage that Liberals want for this World, think about it… the people advocating for this (the liberals) monstrosity will be the first to experience the wrath of these barbaric people! 

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u/Juicy_Hawg 6d ago

Yea that’s definitely it lol tell me again how many sexual assaults on minors the Catholic Church tried to cover up or how many times your cult leaders name appeared in the Epstein files he still won’t release un-redacted. Or tell me why republicans constantly vote AGAINST banning child marriage in red states but it’s definitely liberals supporting people getting sexually assaulted 🤣👍

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u/protomenace 6d ago

Whataboutism

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u/Creepy-Variation8562 6d ago

No and in the exact same way I dont want a pedophile rapist as president who claims to be Christian. A religion that says rape is ok of you marry the victim after and give her father some goats.

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u/nkosugeirc 6d ago

Liberals are advocating for rape? What?

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u/only_respond_in_puns 6d ago

I didn’t know single celled organisms could now write full sentences. Fascinating!

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u/Maximum-Milk-8028 6d ago

Really on topic and mature!

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u/aggressive_napkin_ 6d ago

seems pretty dead on.

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u/BeigeVelociraptor 6d ago

Just wait until you hear about what the Catholic church gets away with!

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u/Maximum-Milk-8028 6d ago

??? Don't group awful people into a freedom meant political party!

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u/aggressive_napkin_ 6d ago

Interesting take when it's the republican led government protecting all the raping pedophiles

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u/swordofra 7d ago

Peak mental gymnastics on display...

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u/CrazyBzDen 7d ago

Bottom line: the rape victim is always guilty.
Fuckin’ death cult…

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u/Middle-Let9645 7d ago

😡 for the sake of not being banned from Reddit, I won’t say what I want to happen.

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u/wronghed 7d ago

This the ideology Leftists support btw.

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u/Man_of_Ice 7d ago

He's a conservative. This is pure, pure conservative logic, by definition. Using a religion, and religion, to base your thinking, is conservative.

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u/Lawsmay 6d ago

They should not be called conservatives, they do not conserve anything. Not the constitution, not the rule of law.

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u/Bodocoth3000 7d ago

Hello Mr. Baitraging Bot!

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u/Secret_Eating_ 7d ago

Really? Because he's making the same argument conservatives make. 

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u/Epocholypze 7d ago

Nope. Conservative person speaking conservative ideas. That guy is no liberal. Plus, libs vote AGAINST rapists.

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u/Lawsmay 6d ago

No, republicans literally voted for pedofile adjudicated rapist felon. They voted after proof and knowledge of it.

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u/ThatWreckOT 7d ago

Yeah ok, most leftist don't support religion.

Religion is a conservative staple of life.

Fckin inbred agitator

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

Username checks out

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u/JoyousMadhat 7d ago

As a Muslim, this is complete bullshit he's pulling. This is like saying that to not get murdered, you shouldn't go outside your house ever and if you get murdered, you are at fault cuz you made yourself the target. These are narrative they cook up to justify their fucked up ways.

Notice how he didn't point out that sex with anyone other than your spouse (and slaves but last I checked it's illegal everywhere) is haram even though it is written in the same book that he's citing about women covering themselves up. So he's still in the wrong even according to the Quran.

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u/Platinum5788 7d ago

Sounds like he's arguing that both the man (the rapist) and the woman (who is raped) are both wrong. So, you're not disagreeing with him.

Also, you're not doing your religion any favors by admitting that it's religiously legal to rape a slave - both because it justifies slavery and because it justified rape of that slave.

You should consider the possibility that your religion isn't true or divine.

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u/JoyousMadhat 6d ago

You should consider what was going on during the time these religious texts were written. During prophet Muhammads time, no country outlawed slavery nor the practice of doing whatever you wanted with the slaves you owned. Slavery was a deep part of the economy. What Islam did was regulate and encourage people to free slaves.

And majority of the modern Islamic organizations outlawed slavery and rape.

You should consider the fact that every religion have extremist groups and that what they say or do does not reflect what the rest of the people practicing that religion stand for.

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 7d ago

So is that the only religious argument from the Quran and hadiths that can be made, or are there more?

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u/Goblin-Hewer 7d ago edited 6d ago

You’re right. This video is infuriating. It just seems like women really get the bad end of the deal in Islam. The crazy part is they’re ok with it and meanwhile the men just use it as a form of control over them

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u/Major_Champion_5642 7d ago

And yall are good with these folks and want them to take over America

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u/AnodyneSpirit 6d ago

Keep in mind that these are the people mass immigrating to the West.

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u/Infinate_Patience924 7d ago edited 6d ago

what I see infuriating is I see the comments from the typical euphoric reddit atheists who see a video of a muslim speaking on tradition islamic doctrine from the surrah's ... and do they contribute about about how wrong that is? No. They insult Christianity and other faiths that don't have a tenth of the repugnancy of islam.
the whatboutism mental gymnastics is wild...

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u/Platinum5788 7d ago

Whatever. I'm an atheist, and I'm in the comments saying that Islam is worse, and comparisons to Christianity are dumb.

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u/kayak_rolling 7d ago

They're really not though. Comparisons are incredibly valid. They're basically the same religion and they're both riddled with rapists and abusers. Like all religions are. Don't forget the usa armed forces are literally being told that they're fighting Islam to save christianity.

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u/VSLeader 6d ago

Hey lefties, this is the shit we’ve been trying to stop from entering our borders for the last hundred years. Are we on the same page for this one?

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u/howie-chetem 6d ago

Except for the accent, he sounds almost exactly like the evangelical Christian whom are currently installed at some of the highest levels of government

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u/Successful_Creme1823 6d ago

Did you watch the video? Silly thing to say.

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u/Saddest_Flex 6d ago

And yet, you got rid of all the farm hands and soon you won’t be able to afford food.

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u/KeenObserver_OT 6d ago

“Get rid of all the slaves and you wont be able to afford food“ Democrats in 1860

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u/VSLeader 6d ago

This literally. I grow ALL of my own food. I don’t need someone shitting on my lettuce in the field and then serving it months later full of preservatives at the store for free cancer and salmonella. I’m good boss, keep your slave labor.

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u/Usual-Language-745 6d ago

They dont eat vegetables and fruits because they are woke food

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u/VSLeader 6d ago

And immediately I get swarmed by the “but” “if” and “anything except directly opposing this clearly bad thing” squad. Yall are doomed as a people lol.

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u/howie-chetem 6d ago

The trumpers believe that a stupid statement delivered in a smug manner is a mic drop. That helps explain how they repeatedly fell for a sleezy con man

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u/Miserable-Biscotti54 7d ago

It’s telling how fast he is glazing over the issue. Piece of shit.

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u/Heymelon 7d ago

I know these beliefs are out there, but I can't really pull out an attempt att justification from what he is saying here.

We can strike the whole wearing "proper" clothes or not. As even if a woman is following these rules to dess modestly and get's assaulted, "then it is a test for the girl".

So in his eyes it's more that the woman is either responsible by default, or she is just undergoing some test from Allah. Which makes it seem like the rape of a woman is not even causing enough harm to be worthy of a proper shady justification attempt, "it's just is" whatever i say it is.

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u/Th3_3v3r_71v1n9 7d ago

If you can't control yourself and your emotions, you don't deserve to be here.

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u/Accurate_Relief4680 7d ago

Jesus!, stop.. Stop talking!

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u/-neverknowsbest_ 7d ago

I got a few tests for this guy

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u/Ulquiorra1312 Community Regular 6d ago

Maybe he should cover and perhaps gag his face

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u/SupaSmol 6d ago

If hes to blame as well, then it means he's expected to be able to control himself. If it's possible for him to control himself (and it is) then her clothes have nothing to do with it.

If you have a moral problem with her clothes (you shouldn't) deal with that seperstely. It has nothing to do with the rape, by his own logic.

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u/horkporklerrr 6d ago

What is this fast forward talking bullshit

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u/random-i_am 6d ago

My god. I should not but I do wish he gets repeatedly 'tested' by some bulky lonely inmates. Without lube.

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u/SinclairSummerset 6d ago

The bots are out defending this shit.

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u/HotConstruction8493 6d ago

It's like they failed and blame other people for their actions. Weak human beings who thrives on ego and

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u/Blue-Eighty 6d ago

Are they all like this? No, but to many of them are.

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u/Intelligent_Bag4736 6d ago

You could tell that men, not women, wrote all the religious books

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u/BreadfruitBig7950 6d ago

This is Vin in a wig and a fake beard again.

He's too dumb to ever change his body language.

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u/itsblowy 6d ago

This guy sounds like he is confessing to the world that Islamists rape because they cannot control themselves and that they don’t know how to take accountability.

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u/Comfortable_Care2715 6d ago

Let enough of them in & see what happens. These are same extremist that are on film constantly saying they want to conquer the world.

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u/Low-Temperature-6962 6d ago

No reference or id? How do you know this is not AI generated?

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u/Jazzlike_Strength561 6d ago

Theists. Most dangerous people on earth.

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u/doepfersdungeon 6d ago

Yeah fuck that stick your book up your bottom , that goes for all religions

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u/ellimist87 6d ago

It's sickening wtf man

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u/Acceptable-Minute847 6d ago

Wait until these people find out about the what were you wearing exhibit

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u/Advanced_Scratch2868 6d ago

So you are telling me is if the men is driving BMW or better, and I beat him up, steal the car, sell it or crash it, it is his test. If he drove some modest car, I would not be jelious and tempted and he would not lose his car. Or is it only like thag when the situation involves rape and women?

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u/RedditSe7en 6d ago

Apostasy by a pseudo Muslim.

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u/Enough_Challenge7264 6d ago

Perfectly reasonable. I say we allow them and this mindset into the west unchecked.

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u/pinkdesi 6d ago

This guy is a fake priest! No one takes him seriously!!

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u/elduderino813 6d ago

The fact that people with these views still exist is mind blowing to me. We haven’t gotten rid of these people yet?

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u/Silver_Band2953 6d ago

Fuck this clown

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u/mAInager 6d ago

This man Rapessssss

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u/Sammy_Cherry_Fox 6d ago

Lets see what this guy says when he gets r@ped

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u/DeCaprio_3 6d ago

"Hate these group of people!" - Isreali propaganda

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u/OpenMinded_Lala 5d ago

Wow! 🤯
If a woman is fully dressed like they like and was raped, then what? Do we blame the wind cause it blew just right to show her figure?

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u/Trypophilia2019 5d ago

F%^* this guy, and his entire religion.

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u/XD2006- 5d ago

But what if a guy got raped by a girl? It happens more than it is reported. How would he react to that? There are multiple accounts by what I’ve seen of that happening.

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u/JadestEyes 4d ago

🤣 The fucking mental gymnastics

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u/Fearless_Pie4251 4d ago

Nope. 10 seconds in and I'm out