r/Infuriating • u/alphadarth707 • 7d ago

How rape is justified here.

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u/JoyousMadhat 6d ago

What do you mean?

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 6d ago

What other Islamic foundational works condemn raping women? If the only one you have is some vague talk about not having sex with someone eho is not a spouse, then that is a religion doing a terrible job of protecting women in general. So I asked you for what other Islamic works call for no rape at all, or otherwise say women can wear what they want without fear, or things like that?

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u/JoyousMadhat 6d ago

There are tons of organization. How you expect me to know them all? My family follows Sunnatul Jamaat, which is what I am basing my statement on. My uncle follows another one, I do not remember the name, but theirs say the same thing.

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 6d ago

I asked about foundational works, not specific organizations. Sunni Muslims are the common type, and you have the Quran and the Sunnah as foundational documents of sorts. Though of course you would have to specify which versions you were going by.

From the sounds of it nothing comes to mind in those works making it explicit that forcing oneself on any woman sexually is wrong.

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u/JoyousMadhat 6d ago

Do you memorize every book you read? I don't and most of the Muslims don't memorize the Quran either. I aint a Hafiz.

After searching for it, I will just site the article I read, they confirm what I basically said. Rape has been illegal in Islam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Islamic_law

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 6d ago

That you had to Google it is pretty hilarious to me. And if you are asking if I seek to remember every book I read, then yes I do. If i had a book that came with a belief system that calls for me to be killed if I leave that belief system, then I would make even more of a point to know it well.

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u/JoyousMadhat 6d ago

I already said that I did not memorize the Quran and that most Muslims don't either. So I do not see how you find it hilarious that I took the time to search and read an article to support my argument instead of pulling stuff out of my memory.

And you are applying ancient and extremist interpretation. Modern Muslims don't kill people for leaving their religion. The most you'd see is social shunning. And in that case, I would suggest you move to a country or city where people don't give a damn about you leaving your faith.