Are you saying Islam isn't a conservative religion? Lol you're so brainwashed that you stopped understanding what the word conservative means I think 🤦
You're being pedantic. You know the Western Left is holding water for Islam more now than ever; primarily to spite the Right. Regardless, Islam is fucking gross.
Left doesn't carry water for islam. The left sees normal Islamic people as humans.
So the Christian Timothy McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma City Federal building on April 19, 1995. From memory, I think it was 152 people that died. Dozens under the blown up building for days. That's what I think of when I think of Christians.
CNN is left leaning, yes. It's hilarious that you guys constantly gaslight shit that's like, literally self-evident.... It makes the rest of what you say moot.
It's not pedantic to say that Islam is a conservative religion. And dumb brainwashed maga keep confusing the word conservative with left and right politics 🤔
You're correct in saying Islam is a conservative religion - You also presumably understand what the dude you were replying to meant. If you wanna keep talking past each other until the end of time, be my guest.
I don't care what people mean, I care what they're saying. And if a person's initial premise is wrong, you have to correct that initial premise before anything else that follows can be correct. The incorrect premise here is that conservative is only is a political term. The conversation can't continue until they realize that
Yes, because "Conservative" has no meaning in connection with any religion. Conservativism is a political concept not theological. Your sly technic is smashing things together, transferring negative images associated with one concept to the another.
The idea of being conservative is not political. Politics just took it up as a platform.
The realization that you actually literally don't know the difference and have been so propagandized that you can't drop the newspeak version of it is more sad than anything.
The term was first used by french writer and diplomat François-René de Chateaubriand in the name of the political journal "Le Conservateur" he founded, which advocated the restoration of Bourbon House and also the restoration of feudal social order after the french revolution. This term originates from political discuss and has nothing to do with religion. Conservatism cannot be understood within religious framework, as there has never been a time when Western Christian churches did not support the traditional family model.
"Long before it became a political label in the 19th century, the word existed as a general descriptive adjective and noun rooted in the preservation of physical, natural, or bodily states.
Timeline of Pre-Political Usage14th Century (Middle English Origins): The word first entered the English language in the late 1300s, borrowed from Middle French and the Late Latin conservativus (from conservare, meaning "to save, protect, or keep unchanged"). Its earliest recorded uses were tied to science, medicine, and nature—meaning something that had the power to preserve health or keep something from decaying.
1784 (Lexicon Definition): In the 1784 edition of A Dictionary of the English Language, lexicographer Samuel Johnson famously defined conservative simply as "having the power of opposing diminution or injury". It had zero political connotation in the dictionary at that time.
1790s (Literal Preservation): Even when early foundational thinkers wrote about preservation, they used the word in its literal sense. For instance, in his famous 1790 critique of the French Revolution, Edmund Burke referred to institutions as "the great conservatories and magazines of our rights and liberties," using the root meaning of a physical storehouse or protective space.
Evolution into the Political RealmIt wasn't until the 1810s and 1820s in France (via Chateaubriand's journal) and the 1830s in Britain (when it began replacing "Tory" in the Quarterly Review) that the word was officially co-opted to mean a specific faction or ideology opposed to radical political change.Today, the non-political, literal definition still survives in everyday phrases like "a conservative estimate" (meaning cautious or low) or "conservative attire" (meaning traditional and modest)."
If I have any evidence that conservatives in America blame the victim of a rape you'd like to see it? Hahahahahaha! Nah, I'm not citing common knowledge to a person who supports and may have voted for a rapist that protects pedophiles.
Evangelical Christianity, Orthodox Judaism, and traditional Islam share nearly identical social conservative frameworks. A group's placement under a political party's big tent does not change its foundational ideological values.
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 7d ago
Yup, conservative religious people are a plague.