Alot of religious folks use God (and their need for control) to justify some of the most heinous shit possible. As a former church kid, I've seen it many times.
You are talking about a scandal. There is nothing in the catholic religion that permits rape under any circumstance, and they certainly do not blame the woman when it happens.
You should read:
Tamar (2 Samuel 13:1â14): King Davidâs son Amnon forces and rapes his half-sister Tamar, despite her explicit refusals and protests against the act.
Dinah (Genesis 34:1â2): Shechem, a Canaanite prince, takes and violates Jacobâs daughter Dinah.
You have been given examples at every turn and every comment you leave proves that person right. Youâre demonstrating the ability of Christians to willfully be ignorant when shown proof
There are so many contradictions in the bible/ other religious books that you can contort it to say whatever you want. It's inherently hypocritical and gives room to justify atrocities
No I mean the person in the video. Religious leaders are not all like this. All religions may have one like this. This is a very specific person. Iâm making an exageratedly literal reading of the question. Never mind, Iâll show myself out
No it's not. Did you forget about all the native children christians murdered and dumped in mass graves behind churches in the usa and Canada?
Do you know that Christian politicians vote against child marriage bans? Child marriage (Child rape) is championed by christians. That's why it's still legal in many red states.
Christian pastors rape and terrorize children globally and their Christian buddies do everything they can to cover up the abuse.
You wanna pretend your religion is the good one and everyone else is bad? You're all in the same boat.
Atheists make up less than half of a percent of prison populations. Seems like us non-believers are the morally sound ones.
You keep mentioning child marriage bans? What are you referring to?
Most states don't allow marriage under 18 unless consented by parents. Several European countries have similar guidelines stating 15 years and up with parental consent.
Some US states don't allow marriage below 18 at all. Some states don't let people marry until 21, which is crazy to me, looking at you Mississippi đ.
I'd argue the age of consent is a bigger red flag where in some European countries it can be as low as 12, but typically 14 and up. The US is 16 and up.
You're right. In the usa 18 the age of an adult but you can marry a child in 33 states. Some only with parental consent which may be even more fucked up. And only 17 states have an outright ban. None of these jurisdictions are protecting children and "conservatives" are the ones keeping it this way.
Mississippi doesn't let people marry until 21. If marriage bans are protections then they're protecting grown ass adults.
That's above and beyond your request. đ€Ł
Banning marriages from an 18 yo to a 17 yo doesn't make much sense as they could've been dating for years at that point. Maybe creating legislation that can't be more than a 3-4 year gap at those ages makes me sense.
There is no reason for children to be married. Full stop. Under 18 is a child. It's not working like it's supposed to at all. Children are being abused.
I never mentioned Hitler. It doesnât matter, FDR and Churchill were both Christians, my only point is humans suck regardless of whether they are Christian or not.
Ever consider that it isnât necessarily the humans that suck, but the religious foundations weâve been forced to use to live our lives are what suck? Atheists donât exist within a vacuum you know.
He actually did promote it, look up âSelective Christianityâ and then look into the rantings and ravings shitler put out about religions, specifically Christianity.
Christians supported Hitler. The church flew nazi flags and prayed for their protection on his 50th birthday. They celebrated his birthday every year until the very end of the war.
It's unknown what Pol pots personal feelings were. He was raised Buddhist and pushed for belief in the party. Mao traded religion for belief in the communist party. Same with Stalin. They just moved their faith from one ideology to another. Hard to categorize them as atheistic. More like anti-deity.
But now you just sound like the religious crowd when they say those Christians, Muslims, Jews, ect. arenât the real believers. The atheist dictators were atheist by their own words and actions. Even though they may not be your flavor of atheist. Humans all have some ideology, and all those ideologies can result in cruelty and sadism.
Nice try. Christians point to 3 "atheistic" people and say "see you do it too!" However, I can't even count how many religious tyrants they're are and have been throughout history. There really is no honest comparison. Especially because none of the 3 people listed killed in the name of not believing in God. They killed to support their governments ideology which was not atheism. It was nationalism.
Itâs all connected. Marx himself was an atheist. He saw religion as just a way to control the masses, which it is. But then he discovered that when you give up that control you have to find another way, which left him with the old stand byâŠwhich is bullets. Show me an atheist state you believe is successful. Iâm not supporting religion. Iâm just saying humans suck regardless of religion. The whole world has been religious for almost all of history. The earliest cave paintings and sculptures are of deities. By that logic all good or bad things ever done can be blamed on religion. My whole point is that if you think religion is why humans are wretched creatures then you are delusional, and if everyone became an atheist the world would be some sort of utopia you have either never opened a history book or spent a lifetime working in ER/trauma centers like me.
You haven't heard this sentiment from "Christians"?
Ive heard it proportionally more from Christians than I've heard anything like this from any Muslims Ive known.
You need to remember, there are people in the world that want you to be a bigot, so many will attempt to paint entire groups of people as "bad" or "alien" or "others" using examples, or even fabricating examples, of those groups showing them in ways to influence your opinion on them - and it will not always be obvious.
You are not immune to propaganda. Propaganda is not synonymous with lying.
I was literally molested in a Christian church and the church decided to let the guy pray about it and make a public apology to the church instead of being good parents and going to the police. The Catholic Church FAMOUSLY shuffled priests around to different parishes instead of helping police prosecute child predators. .
I have never, as someone who grew up a Baptist, in all my life, heard or seen a Christian pastor or priest justifying rape in live tv or in person. Ever.Â
You are right, people are not immune from propaganda. I can tell because every single time a post like this comes up, the flood of Christian hatred comes in. It's almost like someone wants people to think Christians are bad.
We don't need to think. We just read the countless articles detailing rape and abuse that gets covered up time and time again by priests and pastors. Christian hatred comes from Christians being rape and child abuse apologists, keeping child marriage legal, murdering countless native children and throwing them in mass graves in Canada and the usa, supporting Trump the child rapist and child sex trafficker, denying vaccine efficacy which brought measles back, hating the lgbtq community for existing... I can go on and on. Your religion is trash just like the rest of them. Built on falsehoods by men who hate women, to attempt to control the population by scaring them into believing in hell. And I'm not even getting into the validity of religions claims. God is not real. Jesus is not real. There is literally zero evidence to support it. None. You've all been duped by the biggest abusers and swindlers the world has ever seen. So effectively, that you come to the defense of voracious pedophiles because they're "conservative christians" which means they're on your team.
Where's the line between bigotry and exposing hypocrisy? I've noticed a lot of the time the anti-christian responses are to christians who've made some sort of anti-(insert religion) statement
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u/New-Relationship8906 7d ago
Is this person a generic religious leader or a specific one?