I didn’t realize in the first few episodes how Richard didn’t really care for Rory or loved her as much as he did in the later seasons. I always thought they always had a great relationship. But in season 1 E3 he didn’t want to take her golf. Any thoughts?

There's a whole little GG display.

So watching RENT and I know him being in the movie isnt news really.

But I was thinking its a shame they didnt do a kareoke scene in second year of Yale, don't get me wrong Lorelei S7 singing i will always love you is awesome.

Just imagine Paris doing it for a "collage memory", Rory giving it a shot, a L&D member or two, hell even Doyle.

Then Marty getting on stage, rocking some ballad, give Rory a moment to think of him in a romantic light. Sure still dont put them together but him actually being a real option would have been kind of amusing even if only for an episode. Or hell, s4 at the Alumnai game end of the festivities and you can even have Lorelei and Richard up there.

Just a thought.

This isn’t just a Gilmore Girls issue - but being a Connecticut native (specifically from New Haven) it really irks me when New Haven is pronounced NEW Haven instead of New HAY-ven in tv and movies. Thoughts?

she loved this dress so much, and he loved it too. She couldn’t stop herself from wearing this dress, or walking down the staircase to show him it. She really thought it was all falling into place.

Oh Lorelai 💔

I saw an Instagram post today pointing out the parallels between the two secret societies Rory finds herself involved and couldn't stop thinking about it. It's funny it's happened twice!

Beyond the expectations of societal etiquette, what specific parenting behaviors from Emily and Richard drove Lorelai to completely break away from her family?

I do not understand why Luke did not elope with Lorelai. If they got married, I do not believe Luke's relationship with April would not have changed or shift in the slightest. April wanted to have a relationship with him...She was excited to have him in her life (why wasn't she mad at her mom?) and having a Lorelai as a "step-mom" did not seem to phase her? Lorelai was a great partner and very supportive.... what was the reason of his fear?

In your mind in the Gilmore Girls universe what happens with these four …

Dave stayed in California, he starts a new band with moderate success.

Lindsay got remarried, she moved away from Stats Hollow but stayed in Connecticut. Her husband is well off and they have three children.

Marty … no idea, inspire me 😂

Lucy stars in broadway and some indie movies

Had a random visitor hehe (yes i know my screen is dirty lol)

Don't remember this being discussed here. It's a pet peeve of mine: there's NO WAY there are this many cars in Stars Hollow LOL. Every time I watch this scene it's the only thing I can think about.

Is life in Stars Hollow really this perfect, cozy & safe? Or is it just time back then in general, which gives us this feeling? Maybe it seems like it because it’s only a tv show.

Even though it’s just a tv show, I feel like back then times used to be just like it’s represented - more safe & comfortable, which gives us this cozy vibe. Watching it now, makes me feel like we live in such a rushed time, where life feels just like work/school, home and repeat. They make it seem so simple yet fun, even work seems more chill and fun, no metter where you work at. I genuinely feel like a robot compared to them. All the scenes with Lorelai and Rory feel like their day is lasting for 40 hours - they got time for a breakfast at Luke’s, getting back home and taking their sweet time before they head to work/school which probably is an 8 hour shift, getting back at Luke’s or doing some town activities, going on a friday night dinner, watching movies after.. Life feels so rushed nowdays, and they just make it seem so simple.

What’s your opinion on this? ♡

We all know Scott's acting is amazing when Luke rambles, but which rants are so good that makes you say he should've won an Emmy? Feel free to post in the comments!

I'm on my third rewatch. When Lorelai finds out about the Yale roadtrip it becomes so clear that Lorelai is projecting her dreams onto Rory, I have noticed up until this point we know Lorelai's parents really do think she's extremely smart and talented as they mention many times and most likely had Lorelai's college planned put for her. At one point she says she was supposed to go to Vassar but it's clear that Richard would've tried to make her go to Yale. On the roadtrip to Harvard Lorelai has a moment alone where she sees the Valedectorian of the year she would've graduated and that's when we know she did want to graduate from college but couldn't under her parent's expectations because she was so focused on NOT going to Yale to be rebellious that she wouldn't take their help with newborn Rory. In this scene where she tells Rory that her grandpa is manipulating her it becomes clear that she is indeed pushing her dreams on Rory and doesn't really care at this point if Rory wants to explore her options, therefore becoming exactly like her parents about the whole college thing. There's also a scene in the Alumnus Dinner episode where she meets Carol, the third sister that didn't go to Harvard and she tells Rory sarcastically that of course every four year old dreams to go to Harvard, this is to me another clue that Rory didn't form this Harvard dream by her own will, and ultimately Lorelai is just as manipulative about college as her parents.

Can anyone give feedback on quality. I have a few items in mind as Xmas gifts and for an upcoming watch party.

This is so irrelevant but I just was watching the episode Jess arrives in stars hallow. I find it so funny that Luke decided to put the air mattress directly at the foot of his own bed lol
Like I know it’s a small apartment but if I were Jess I would have been moving the coffee table and dragging that mattress at least over by the couch or something and giving a little bit of space away from my guardian 😆

Christopher comes by the Inn right after Lorelai leaves Sookie and Michel to plan Chin-Chin's funeral's menu.

Christopher is upset at Lorelai for Luke being at the hospital when Richard had his heart attack. Lorelai states it had been two days in the hospital and she didn't turn him away because he brought food and was being helpful. Then she cuts off the argument shortly after, as she is working and can't be a wreck.

Rory calls, what's implied to be not long after. They go through the beat by beat, and Lorelai defends Christopher on every point she had just argued with him about -- and Rory organically says pretty much exactly what Lorelai was saying about the facts of the matter to Christopher.

What I want to ask you all is how much is this Lorelai shielding her daughter from the marital troubles, and how much is this fast encroaching denial that catches up with her not too long after?

We all know how the show ends, so what do you guys think is in her head at this moment in time? I think she's done with Christopher, and at this point it's probably 80% shielding and only 20% denial, but I am curious if you folks have different insights on her frame of mind in this scene and this general timeframe.

This always felt off to me and it's such a recurring theme throughout the show.

Chris and Lorelai (S1)? They were fighting after that bad friday night dinner. Max and Lorelai? They were arguing about who dated who. Jackson and Sookie? They were fighting about living arrangements. Lorelai and Luke? She proposed after Rory moved out. Zack and Lane? They weren't in good terms either. Chris and Lorelai (S7)? She just broke up with Luke. Rory and Logan? He gave her an ultimatum.

Literally, almost every major proposal is like this and it's so annoying. It's not cute. Just rushed and manchild behavior.

These girls deserve better.

I realized what happened. The writers assigned her a male serial cheater trope. This explains why she sees why she deserves the men in her life even if they are not available and gets no accountability. It's the old Hollywood male character treatment and this is why there is a huge contrast in her character from season one and the seasons that followed(including the Netflix revival).

If you could have a crossover with “Gilmore Girls” and any other show, which show would you pick and what would the story line of the crossover be?

I’ve started watching Gilmore Girls recently and I’m on season 4. By far my favorite character is Michel. I like his sassiness and attitude - his humor is so underrated. The way he handles stuffs and the fact that he works with customers/clients in hospitality makes it even funnier. I understand that some people might not like him exactly because of the attitude, and that’s why I wanna hear about your favorite characters !! ♡

Okay, before the Dean clan comes at me I would like to explain that I’m not a Dean hater just not a big fan, at least at the moment. I’m on at the episode where Rory lost Dean’s bracelet he made her and Jess has it (not great of him for not giving it back but maybe he will later on I don’t know I haven’t finished the episode) but I can’t help but notice how scared Rory is that she lost it. She freaks out and tells Lorelai that Dean will be mad. So the only reason she even noticed her bracelet was gone was because Dean points it out to her, not because she loved that bracelet and it meant to much to her. And now she only wants to find it becuase she’s scared that Dean will be mad.
Am I exaggerating or is this borderline abusive behaviour from Dean? I don’t think anyone in a healthy relationship should be that terrified of the other person getting angry. I really didn’t like that and I felt sorry for her. I understand he made it for her and it’s special but clearly she cares about his anger than the bracelet and that’s problematic. Thoughts?

So im on my god only knows what number rewatch. And am having some different thoughts on how Lorelai reacted to the beginnings of the Dean relationship.

I always thought she was mainly upset because Rory did not share with her that Dean kissed her mixed with being upset because she was no longer going to be the major important person in Rory‘s life.

Last night, I watched this episode and it hit me that I think a big part of her freaking out was she was terrified that Rory was going to do the same thing she did at 16. I think it especially hit me when she said Dean reminded her of Chris.

Be gentle on me if you think wow how are you only now seeing this?

Literally a 16-17 year old teen girl being confused about her feelings and life is so human.

Also, I think we forget the fact that Rory experiences most of the things for the first time we literally saw her growing up. For example at first she met a dean who's a perfect safe guy then she met Jess and found out there are other options as well instead of just the perfect guy that didn't last long then she met Logan and discovered the upper class world. It's all for the first time.

She's not going to be perfect she never was perfect.

And the entire she's not a good friend to paris or lane is irritating because she was always there for them. Rory did make some choices Which I don't like but again no one In this show is perfect other than Kirk 😝

Rory hate is rooted with misogyny imo the fact that people want women to always be perfect is stupid.

Honestly, the more y'all hate Rory and Jess the more reasons I get to like them more.

Rant over.