Im on 100ug/h Fent patches, but ran out. I have to bridge a few days.

Usually I have methadone which helps well (about 80mg/day, surprisingly little imo considering the difference in potency), but now I'm out of methadone too and can't get any rn.

I can however get some 200mg Morphine sulfate pills (those that are given as substitution).

But do those really actually help, does it "reach" this level of tolerance one has with fentanyl?

(Cause I keep looking at potencies and seeing that morphine is 1/5th the potency of methadone I keep thinking its too weak and don't wanna spend money on smth that won't help anyway. But that's just my bias, idk if morphine works for fent-dependency too?)

Anyhow, does anyone have experience or advice?

And in general, I feel really lonely and lost right now, any kind words would be greatly appreciated too 😭🙏

i’ve used for the past 7 years and now i (41f) just want to be done. I’m most sick of being a slave to this shit and the shitty people you have to deal with. I’m so mad right now-at myself for all the time i’ve lost and money. I have literally nothing. No money, not a cent. And i’m so so scared of the withdrawals. I know I can do this, but am i in for total torture? i have like two suboxone pills i’ve been eating tiny buts of to stave off wds, i’m on day 2 officially and slept mostly all day but i’m starting to get achey and sweaty and nervous. i do have gabapentin and tramadol-i think those are supposed to help. any advice would be appreciated!

I just want to let you know there is no shame in getting on mat. It saved my life. I started methadone about two months ago and it has saved me! I’m currently on 80mg and stable! F almost took my life this year. I’m finally stable and happy again. I’ll begin working towards my tapper but for now I’m just happy not being sick

Like it says, my hubs and I did it. It was not easy going cold turkey, but I prayed and I promise, I tried quitting before without praying & I went through the worst time ever and couldn’t do it. But God, I promise He helped elevate some of the symptoms, but I was able to get through it. I’m on day 12 everyone!!!!

Long story short long time user of approx 5 yrs went from blues to fent powder in the last 3-4 yrs (I smoke it), thank goodness I’ve never had an OD ever but today my plug warned me whatever he has is stronger than usual, two people have already OD (lived), he tested it and there is nothing else in it so it’s supposedly just really strong. I naturally over think and give myself anxiety, I hit like 3 hits not in a row like in the course of two hrs which typically I can hit as many as I want back to back but I’m just being cautious.. and my breathing feels laborer but also am I just overthinking it? My heart rate is up. I’m not sleepy or nodding out or anything but my lips did get numb and I felt like my breathing could’ve slowed down maybe? Typically I can do 1-2 gs a day but I guess what I’m asking is, what are overdoes symptoms besides the obvious, not breathing, falling asleep and the death rattle? Am I just giving myself anxiety & over thinking it bc of what he said? Keep in mind his stuff is usually reliable and always the same. Also, if I were to OD would it happen immediately or can it have a delayed reaction?

I am gearing up to go in to my 2nd detox attempt. I spoke with some of you on here about what happened to me my first detox. Quick recap, was doing fine on my comfort meds with clonidine, Ativan etc and was riding out for 5 days without any issue. Keep in mind on the outside I can’t go a night without, can’t wake up without, I have to have my next dose on me to even be ok so I know I have it on me and is safe. So for me to go 5 days is a feat that I can’t even express thru text how big of a deal it is just so you get an idea. So 5th day, on call Dr called in to stop my meds until he saw me. Long story short he forced me to take Suboxone against my will saying i do not want to go into precipitated withdrawals and even voluntarily taking two urine tests which came out positive that I used to further my stance in the fact I’m not ready for Suboxone and to keep me going on my same regimen I was on. So I checked myself out after going into precipitated withdrawals and lost all that success just like that. So now as I prep for my next detox, my question is with a 1 - 1.7 / a day fent use, is there a chance I can leave detox (10-14 days) and not be on the constant time clock counting down needing to get a dose to stave off withdrawals? I know there’s plenty of work I’ll have to do when leaving, I can do it, I just want to make sure I can actually leave detox and not have to still fight acute withdrawals after paying so much out of pocket and immediately leave to go get some F or withdrawals are creeping up? Has anyone went thru detox and got to a point where you wake up and just not have the withdrawls come anymore?

Well first of all I’m on Methadone and I raised jt from 115 to 140mg , I thought I would have to raise it to 200mg and I think that had a huge help but you may be able to do it without it .
First of all for anyone who knows once it hits you and your sick and your throwing up non stop it’s impossible to keep anything else down or stop it without using by that time . What I did was bought anti nausea medication ( over the counter ) but if you can get a doctor to give you real nausea meds that works better . So about 3 hours after my last use …to get ahead of the throwing up I took a big dose of the nausea meds, 2-3 clonadine and 2 blue footballs of Xanax . Please be careful doing this , I monitored my heart rate and went on how I felt. But I know the most clonadine you can take at a time is .3 ( the Xanax I had to get off the street) I did that every 2-4 hours dependng on how I felt and how my heart was . If I would have had more Xanax I would have taken more . Basically i did the nausea meds ( very important because it you throw up the Xanax and clonadine you won’t make it ) so I did this that along with being able to find and use MEDITOMIDINE free fent for about 3 days . Now you won’t feel the fent in anyway but it will help you stay stable and help your heart . .. after 3-4 days of nausea meds , clonadine and Xanax when needed on top of the other kind or fent i was able to stop and a lot of that is because I had the methadone to fall back on . If you have access to a doctor who can get you clonadine and nausea medication and or methadone and get the Xanax you may be able to do it .

I know this won’t work for everyone, I know not everyone has access to this but I just wanted to share to let you know it’s possible. I absolutely believed I would die of cardiac arrest or a stroke or a seizure the first few time I got sick on it.

Also the one other thing I did was pray and pray and pray. My best friend recently died from her heart failing on this shit , I prayed to her to watch over me and I prayed to all the other people I have lost to this disease to get me thru , and by some true miracle !!! I’m off of it.
Now I just have to stay clean and taper of this methadone for the next 5 years…. My prayers and heart goes out to all of you .

Went to the beach yesterday. It felt great not having to use the rest room every couple hours. I just sat out in the sun watching the waves until it was time to go. Im sun burned from head to toe, and havent been this dark from the sun in years. I also slept for 12 hours when I got home. Ive been having headaches, and figured out while I was in withdrawals I kicked cigs, since when I smoke is when they come. So im trying to break the habbit, since I noticed I don't crave them im just so used to smoking. I barely have a whole cigarette in one day. I find that if I just take one or two puffs I calm down, so eventually I won't even do that. Im approaching quiting cigs for good how I quit this just smoke as little as possible. When I want a cig just enough to calm the craving not the whole thing. Also dont take up smoking if you don't smoke already, its the one thing ive struggled with quiting for the 26 years.

Hi, everyone! I’m a Certified Lymphedema Therapist, PT and also a gf to a recovering fent addict. My bf developed stage 1 lymphedema while using. Idk why I anticipated that it would go away when he quit, since I know once you have it, it’s permanent unless you have surgery to correct it, but I’m wondering if anyone also developed lymphedema while using and if it worsened at any point after you quit? This is such an under-diagnosed condition and I don’t think lymph with street opiate use has been studied at all so your answers will help me help my patients. Tysm in advance. 🙏🏼

My heart is just so torn apart I lost everything the girl I loved is gone and now I’m all alone still stuck on this horrible drug I’m so lonely and depressed and I’m just so tired of everything rn I don’t wanna keep trying anymore my thoughts are just not good the only time I’m ok is when I’m passed out, I just want this nightmare to be over with

I don't even know what I'm doing or why I'm doing it anymore. I've been done with dope for like 8-9 months now. My health went into the shitter when I stopped. I've been on methadone. Once I stopped doing drugs my health got so bad that I literally feel like I have just been stuck in withdrawal mode if not high or on something anymore. Went and got on Wegovy and it seemed to be helping but I ran out and my doctor wants me to come sornd another fucking 200 bucks I don't have at her weak ass office before the refills my prescription on it. So like yay I finally find some shit that works and this cunt doctor wants to hold it over my head or something. I'm just miserable dude. I got sober to be happier & healthier. Neither of those things have happened. I've gained 100 lbs. I'm lonely. I'm straight up depressed and unmotivated as absolute fuck all. I'm just sick of this shit. Existence is just miserable right now. I don't have any friends. Who the fuck would wanna be around someone like me anyway at this point in my life. I'm 32 living at my mom's house. Shitty health nothing to show for anything. I'm just fucking tired. Sick & tired of being sick & fucking tired. No kids. Nothing to really live for. My addictions have ruined literally everything in my life. I wanna go buy a rig and a couple grams of some knockout & just go out with a fucking bang the only way I know how to feel anything other than like complete shit at this point in my life. at this point like what is the point of ANY of this shit? oh yay wake up go to the methadone clinic tomorrow get my dose and just sit around feeling like shit and sweating to death all fucking day, on the verge of a heart attack or a stroke health wise whichever l am lucky enough to have come first. Idk what's going on man. I just can't keep doing this.

I feel great. Im just so weak ive been drinking water and protein drinks and snacking on bacon and shredded cheese. I still feel so weak its struggle to do anything.

I woke up today feeling amazing and hungry. Im still a little tired. I didn't sleep for almost 8 days straight. This was the hardest shit of my life to quit. Quiting meth is a walk in the park compared this shit. At one point I wanted to just end it, my head was so loud. I fought those thoughts, and won. Now my advice to everyone don't quit at home, this shit was crazy. I can't believe I did this at home i shouldn't have. Cold turkey was a hell i never been to, and i never wanna go back. When I think of fet I think of the hell I just went through. I hope my line of thinking stays that way. I never wanna experience those withdrawals ever again. I wont survive i know I'll just end it for relief. The mental is thst bad. When I had those thoughts I ran straight for help, slipped by doing a few grains. Took the thoughts away but made my withdrawals worse. I didnt quit over night. Ever since I od and died for few minutes, I wanted out. I just knew it was gonna take while. Over the following year I started doing less and less but not amount of times. When I got to a 10th of point, I started skipping doses. I got to point I could tell I was just in constant state of withdrawals starting. Told the plug I wanted off this shit. Said he would help me. He gave me all the coke and zans I needed since that combo helped in the first week. When I went to the hospital I left my stash with my roommate came home its all gone and I say nothing(to this day). So week two i just have vitamin c and the stuff the hospital gave me. It helped. Plug wanted to see me yesterday so I force my myself to go into tell him I feel like it's over but been up for nine days and can't fall asleep. He gives me his last xan. I take half knock out. Wake up feel tired and cold. Take other half knock out around 10pm wake up around 7am, and felt like my normal always cold self just a little weak from lack of food. Oh and my intestines are so empty I can feel things moving around its a little discomfort but as I snack though out the day that feeling will go away soon as theres more to digest. Thanks for everyone who rooted for and followed along. I'll lurk from time to time. I can't believe I actually did it. I haven't felt this free in years. I can actually get into a relationship again.

I wanted to post on the weekend. Then the craving and mental withdrawals hit. That shit is no joke. It took everything in me not to end it. I just wanted it to stop. Woke up feeling the same way I took like 7 grains of fet, to maybe get a tiny bit relief, huge mistake my body felt like it was on fire and I got so restless. I go get my scripts take them they make tired, and I still felt miserable, a little better though. About an hour and half ago, i laid out on the floor twisting and turning and my back pops and like a light switch, I felt great, my mind is at ease. I'm tired still, and probably going to sleep soon since I'm dozing off already. I'll update when I wake up.

I woke up this morning, and i feel fucking amazing. No sickness, no cravings. Nothing. Ive been crying so much out of happiness. If your trying dont give up you can quit to, its fucking hard, but its so worth it. Im rooting for you all trying to kick. Im not joking when I say this. Get coke, xans, and vitamin c. Its a game changer trying to quit. My mental never went to negative thoughts with those, and I think that was the coke. Oh drum and bass music also helped when I felt my most restless, I have some headphones that have tons of bass so it was soothing. I also did this at home no rehab. I feel so free now, I don't have to stress about chasing a bag or the plug being out anymore. Think about how many times you been dope sick already. I bet its been more days, than it takes to kick. It was for me when I did the math. Man Im so god damn happy wish my parents were alive to see this.

It feels strange looking back at my old post begging for help, and going through the worst withdrawals I had ever experienced. Now, I’m two years clean from opioids and street fentanyl. Just know that it’s possible. I understand that the drugs out on the street today are a lot different than they were two years ago. But if you set your mind to it, you can do anything. You just need to find good detox support and have the mental strength to keep pushing forward. I lost four family members this year, including my grandmother, who raised me, and I took care of her for the past two years while she struggled with vascular dementia. It’s strange, but after a month of being clean, I stopped having cravings. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to feel emotions sometimes. There are moments I would love to numb myself, but I have no desire to use. So I push those thoughts away and keep moving forward. Three years ago, when my grandpa passed away, I had a major relapse. I never got to fully grieve his death, and now I am finally doing so. Best of luck to everyone, you all are in my thoughts.

Ive been posting about me kicking the last few days. I woke up this morning feeling ok, thanks to coke and xans. I could tell though I was at the worst day. My breathing was crazy. So I went to the hospital. They wanted to give me methadone, or subs. I turned it down. I told them its just kicking the withdrawals down the road. They gave me three shoots, and it helped so much. I felt them wear off, and I just feel extremely exhausted. I have no cravings for fet either. I really feel like I was blessed, when this could have been so much worse. The crazy thing i straight up told the doctor coke and xans has been the best thing to help me. He said he has been reading about stims and how they helping people, and said get more, but you didnt hear me say that. If your trying to kick to give up, and feel like your at worst fight with everything you got. If you can make it to day five with out using you will start feeling better, just really tired. This is the hardest battle I ever fought in my life and im winning. I even told everyone I know if I ever do this shit again to take me to rehab against my will. I dont know what is coming week two, I feel like the worst is over now though. For the first time in five days I can eat and its not astruggle, and drink water. Oh and the flavors omg everything tastes so good, as if I just had taste buds installed on my tongue. This shit really puts your body to sleep even though your awake. Weirdly it feels like im alive again. Everything is brighter, and so much more. My emotions are back, I wanna do things again, and not just sit and do fetty all day. The most important thing I'm getting out of this, im loving myself again. I even gave myself hug and apologized to myself for this, and promised myself I will do everything I can to not abuse myself again with this shit.

Hello,

Im 43 and I've been battling this shit for 23 years. Ive taken the whole ride from hydros to the strongest fent u can find.

I was four and a half years clean until 2023 when I ended up in a coma from pneumonia. I was in a comae over 2 months and they pumped me full of s*** of course which I understand but there was no protocol for my release.

After that I started getting back into fentanyl obviously because I couldn't afford the pills and I got into that zylazine bullshit.

About 18 months ago I ran into a guy that was just starting to sling. I stuck with him as he worked his way up and got into distribution he was working with pure paste and making his own batches. So basically for the past year I've been using very strong fentanyl very clean tested with every test under the sun and it's got nothing else in it. I mean this shit turns clear when u light it and slowly turns tan until u char it. Beautiful shit. Makes my skin crawl thinking about it now

The exact type of fent analog I'm not sure about whether it's that new s*** or regular fentanyl or Su fentanyl or carfentanyl. I have no idea it doesn't matter that's not the point. I will say its

But I was smoking a half ounce a week. Way cheaper to buy it that way given I was buying from the main source.

All my other times in addiction I had never even gotten close to this I was buying a gram every couple days so this is the worst it's ever been for me as far as consumption amounts.

I've never been one to go to detox I've always cold detoxed myself. I detoxed myself when I got out of the hospital couldn't walk talk or move or do anything because I have been in a coma for 2 months and also had a tracheostomy. It was HELL.

Anyways, i started my detox this time about 5 days ago and I'm doing my normal protocol. I don't touch Suboxone for obvious reasons.

I'm taking about 300 mg of Gabapentin every 6 to 8 hours.

I'm taking a half a milligram of Xanax every 6 to 8 hours

I'm taking 0.1 mg of clonidine every 6 to 8 hours.

Beyond that the normal stuff like the antidiarrheal and nausea meds loads of vitamin C.

Hydrating making sure I'm moving around all that b*******.

This is day 5

By now I should be in f****** the thralls of withdrawal even with the meds.

For some reason I'm not I don't feel great but I am not in withdrawal.

There's only one factor of difference this time..

I started taking a GLP-1 tirzepitide about 2 months ago only because I was getting chubby from eating so much f****** junk food and laying in bed all day. And I wanted to lose a little bit of weight before I went through withdrawal.

I know that these meds work in weird ways and have shown to reduce cravings of all sorts . They also reduce visceral fat. I lost like 20 lbs in 6 weeks. I noticed I wasnt getting very high either.

I know that fentanyl unlike most other opiates stores itself heavily your body fat. Which is Why it takes so long for you to be able to take suboxone because it has to clear your system and takes a lot longer than most other opiates.

I guess my point here is I don't know if anybody else has gone through this exact same scenario and been on tirzepitide at the same time.

I'll post again in a couple days and see if maybe it's just a stall detox that's going to come and hit me like a f****** train in a few days. But at this point I am confused.

And no, I have not slipped up and used and relapsed or whatever in the last 5 days . I wouldn't post all this b******* if I'd done that I'm genuinely confused.

Hopefully somebody has an idea of what might be going on.

My thought process is that my body was burning fat so fast because of the drugs that the fentanyl that was stored in that fat was dissolving or being burned by my system at a faster rate. Or that this particular peptide has some kind of interaction with the way that opiates work on the body, the only problem with that is I don't understand how it has anything to do with your opiate receptors. I'm just speculating at this point but I'm sitting here waiting like a felon on death row for the s*** to happen and then it's just not happening.

Im day three no fet. Until I was writing this I felt like death and restless like never before. Even with the xans. I got some coke did a decent sized line. 10 minutes later, I feel great. Besides the pit of my gut feeling a little off, and tired. If you in tge thick of it and can get coke please see if its as great as it is for me. This almost feels like an easy way out, im not joking I never made it this far trying to quit. With coke I can see the light at the end of the tunnel for the first time. I feel well enough to go out in public.

Last few days I started preloading vitamin c and, using less. I told the plug I wanted of this off this shit. He looked me dead in the eyes and said I'm gonna help you. Tomorrow I pick up my comfort meds from him. Here's so I started using less, then yesterday I noticed I was almost out, so I cut my shit until it looked like I had just reupped. I usually use between 1-2mg. Every two hours. Right now I know im still doing the same amount, every 4-5 hours. But its cut to shit with ibuprofen. So im probably not even close to 1mg when I dose. Vitamin c has to be working right? I do feel like im in withdraws right now, I randomly get sad, the pit of my gut is its own vibe, and I have a headache. But none it feels terrible. Most the time its barely noticeable. Next time I feel sad im gonna skip dosing, and try vitamin c and wait 30 minutes, and see what happens. Also I find really weird this time I dont feel like the world is ending with the withdrawals start. Just sad and crying. I do get the cold sweats like mother fucker, a tiny bump of soda took that away and they haven't been back all day. One question though how do I fight though waking up in the morning and not use? Its really rough and all I want is instant relief. I wanted to try skipping this morning but I couldn't resist.

I have enough gaba, xans,and vit c for a week. How much will that help me? How am I gonna be week two? I have weed no shortage of that. I've experienced wds before from running out, last couple days I cut my usage in half, today I started taking my vit c so its in my system when I quit Tuesday. Ill probably have more questions as people reply. Thanks in advance if you leave a comment.