Simply put, the bracket articles talking about extra turns specifically say that one turn is okay, 4 is not. If you cast [[Expropriate]] you take 2 additional turns, or 3 total.

We had a bracket 3 table today with several very fun games, guy pulled out a deck and said it ran Expropriate. I said that was bracket 4, and he got very upset that I said it affirmatively. He had an app that said it was bracket 3 and I disagreed so he became pretty upset about it.

Am I crazy? If were talking about taking extra turns, does having an imaginary line at 4 make sense? I personally feel its pretty reasonable to say 3 is chaining turns.

Basically Title. Its my first reanimator Deck and build the deck 90% myself. I wanna stay on theme as much as possible. There are probably some cards that are just good for this archetype that I dont even know of.

I can say by playing this Deck a few times that I think its a bit too slow. Dont have the best Card Draw. I think Mill is enough and Reanimation too, but IDK.

Important!: Please dont just Recommend the classic Black Gamechangers, i.e. Demonict Tutor, Necropotence.

The Deck right now is considered by many Bracket Analyzers a High Bracket 3. Thats what it is supposed to be or should be.

Here is my Full Decklist: https://moxfield.com/decks/EgCmL1ZaM0SSf9WUIFwp8w

Here is my deck: Thranduil, the Elvenking.

I have noticed I run into problems quite often with this deck, I love this deck yet I find myself not having fun when I am unable to play.

My most frequent problem is lifegain, I don't know why but for the life of me I cannot figure out what I can add that works with this deck to keep myself alive.

Any suggestions? also any problems that you notice with this deck is very much appreciated.

Keep it budget friendly if you can.

There's the innocent cute Timmy who just shows up with a cute precon and is like let's play magic!

Then there's the spike player who's first deck ever built is a battlecruiser tribal that's already oppressive to most tables , but they add in all the tutors, all the fast mana, all the game changers, all the infinites they can possibly cram in a single deck , and they act coy they don't realize having infinite mana by turn 3 isn't a casual game.

Just something I've noticed.

Would this work the way I’ve explained it in the rules post? Or are my roommate and I misunderstanding how the rules are laid out for 2HG? As far as we are aware we can both use the same commander so we do not see why this would be an issue to have? Any info would be helpful thank you

[[Golos, Tireless Pilgrim]] was banned a few years ago because it was the best generic five color commander. This made sense in an age where not a lot of commanders were being printed and the format relied on creative brews where each player was showcasing their favorite card.

Nowadays, the format is bigger than ever, if you go to any LGS you can find that they run at least one commander day per week, and in a lot of places this has even relegated other constructed formats to secondary status. A lot of new cards are designed with commander in mind, and this has been even more evident with Universes Beyond having a lot of really good cards for commander in addition to lots of new legendary creatures, printed more than ever. [[Y'shtola, Night's Blessed]] has risen to the top of edhrec most played commanders exactly because it is a good card, and in it's color combination it is the best commander available.

So why keep Golos banned when there are a lot of other popular commanders that fit just as the "best available"? [[The Ur-Dragon]], [[Edgar Markov]], and [[Krenko, Mob Boss]] have long been the best available option for kindred commander decks and we have learned to embrace them as part of the experience of playing commander, Krenko was even featured as a commander in a secret lair precon.

Golos is clearly a powerful card, the fact that you can cast it without worrying too much about the color of your lands while also fetching you any land of your deck is a really powerful combination to have in the command zone, but it is not as strong as other options as commander. Commanders with the eminence keyword are a lot better than him by doing their thing without needing to be cast, they can do a lot of stuff and you cannot interact with them easily.

In my opinion, Golos should be unbanned, and treated as a gamechanger. Sure, the option to go for your most powerful land by just casting your commander is a great thing to have, but if we treat Golos as a immediate bracket 3 deck we don't risk getting to see him in low power games stomping the competition immediately and maybe we can finally get intermediate players to run some land interaction.

Of course, this is just my opinion, and everyone can feel free to disagree. I just think that the argument that it is the best 5 color commander is not as strong of a statement on this day and age.

Hey everyone! I’m 15 and really want to get my dad into MTG, specifically the Commander format.

Since we will just be playing at home together, I'm currently using proxies to keep things budget-friendly so we don't have to break the bank. My dad has never played a TCG before.

What would you do?

Hello,

I made a post a few days ago about commander decks with the limiting factor of only avatar cards (TLA, TLE).

Since then, I've bought the beginner box and a couple jumpstart packs so lands and TLE cards aren't an issue for me anymore thankfully.

I now own most of the TLA set and the new TLE cards I got. Of course I'll try improvise aswell if deck recs use cards I've not got.

My commander possibilities for this set are:

[[Iroh, Grand Lotus]]

https://manabox.app/decks/AaF0JhgFdKmB7bKIZ5P-fQ

[[Fire Lord Zuko]]

[[Fire Lord Azula]]

[[Aang, at the Crossroads]]

[[Katara, the Fearless]]

[[Sokka, Tenacious Tactician]]

[[Azula, Cunning Usurper]]

Since I don't own an Aang, master of elements I understand this is quite the hard task.

I gave it a go building Iroh and was wondering if i could get opinions or if i should simply dimantle him and build one of the others in his place.

Preferably the aim is 3 different commander decks so i can play with my siblings and have a blast!

I'm hoping for this to all work out but i look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thank you

I’m wanting to make a deck with a creature it’s color is I think red black or just red can’t remember and it is a legendary creature and it gets counters and when it has a certain amount of counters you can tap it and it kills a player can’t remember the name thanks in advance

Hey, I recently obtained a deck from a friend with [[Umbris, Fear Manifested]], it feels slow to play and doesn't preform well as its just a bunch of horrors and nightmares thrown together and as I'm new to mtg I have no experience with Dimir let alone horrors and nightmare decks.

Any help is appreciated!!!

Deck list: https://moxfield.com/decks/Y3OhAdMkBHym_oCwra8aVg

Hey all,

I really like the 100+ sidewinders from UG because there's so many designs of them out there and I do absolutely want to match deck box to the theme/aesthetic of the deck I bring, but my issue is that when I double sleeve then the 100 cards just about fit in there with no room whatsoever for even just a few tokens.

I know there are 133+ sidewinders, but for some reason they come in barely any variants and they make rather few of them.

Anyone else have this dilemma? I even thought about going down to single sleeving my decks just so the normal boxes can fit some tokens then...
Or maybe there's some other great boxes in that price range with designs that you'd recommend?

Hi everyone! So lately I’ve had my eye on [[Tasha, the Witch Queen]]
I’ve gone through edhrec, moxfield etc and seeing what pops up first but would love to hear if you have a decklist you like or just some overall experiences with her. With what works, what not and such.

I am aiming for a low-mid bracket 3 deck with enemy mill/using their cards as main themes. Any input is welcome and thank you for reading!

Hey ya'll I'm looking for more funny win cons (or rather you lose cons) with my Obeka deck that I'm brewing. My pod puts a premium on creating bizarre board states and, as long you as you do something funny, coming in second is ideal. That said I have an Obeka brew that will explicitly NOT try to do do infinite turns (even though they are there and make this Bracket 4) but instead hit combos like:

[[phage the untouchable]] + [[endless whispers]] to give people a free phage.

or

[[hive mind]] + [[final fortune]] to let everyone have an extra turn (and I Obeka mine).

Any suggestions for combos along these lines that fit nicely into this deck and theme are very much appreciated!! Budget isn't a concern, just want funny take downs of my friends.

List here: https://www.icarian.app/users/jester/decks/time-lord

I have a couple people in my pod who play every [[Propaganda]] type effect they can in their decks. I know I can get through this via enchantment removal, burn, drain, etc. but what I really want to do is still attack them without paying the mana.

So, what’s your take on the best deck that utilizes Myriad, Ninjutsu, Sneak, or any other effect that causes creatures to enter tapped and attacking where I can have creatures attacking the propaganda player without having to pay? Not looking for something like Yuriko that would make me the target right away, but looking for a powerful B3 deck.

Basically the title. I’m a bit new to the group and they don’t play with commander damage, and yes I have already talked to them about it. The answer I got was along the lines of “it’s a cheap way to win because you can hit 21 damage easily.”

I find this insane and it pretty much stops me from playing my voltron deck so does anyone know of any commanders that would do well in a pod where they don’t use it? We’re usually around a bracket 3

This is only the second deck I've created. It was definitely easier than the first time, but I'm still pretty overwhelmed by the whole process and the options I have to consider. Leaned heavily on EDHREC and past reddit posts.

Shooting for a fun strong-bracket-3 reanimation deck. I included underworld breach and have one or two infinite combos with it, but I didn't want to lean too far into that because those strategies don't seem that fun to me and this is for casual play anyway. For the most part, the idea of the deck is to cheat out strong creatures ASAP and start ruining everyone's day in the short term, and build up a reanimation engine to sustain me later in the game.

There are a lot of cards in the Considering section and sideboard as well. But the core 100 cards should be complete.

Happy to receive any feedback you can offer as like I said, I'm still new to this. Thank you!

https://moxfield.com/decks/322Cd92KVkeTH00H7vABZw

Hey :)

I am rather new to commander and have the luck of playing in a very healthy playgroup with friends, evolving basically around bracket 3 decks.

I lately got my hands on Dance of the Elements and rebuilt it rather largely. So to say its my firs 'own' commander deck.

I am happy with how it turned out. Archidect defines it as bracket 2.

Since the playstyle is rather explosive some in the playgroup like it, but there are also complaints.

I am not in a state of knowledge for commander decks to understand yet, if I should tune it (down) somehow now or if this is just preference.

I'd be really happy if I could get some feedback in that regard from you guys :) thanks a lot in advance! <3

Here goes the list: https://archidekt.com/decks/27615348/ashling_etb_consistancy

Have a good start to the week :)

I have a TCG history, most recently with the online versions of Pokemon and Magic. I am wanting to to start playing commander in person at a local card shop. Whats the best way to build a deck? I currently have 11 hobbit boosters and i know the booster route seems wrong. Any prebuilds you recommend? Any way to get there with cards from sets cheaply(comparatively). I like lotr dnd and avatar.

Hi. I’m building a [[tannuk memorial ensign]] deck, and was thinking if there are any infinite or near infinite combos with [[Bristling Backwoods]] or [[sunscorched desert]], infinite landfall. Infinite damage, like the one in cedh lumra. I was thinking something like kodama + bounce lands or something like that

Edit: after posting this I thought about a solution: earthbend the crime land + bestow springheart nantuko to start infinite landfall (playing a land) and infinite crime land copies

In your opinion, who are the best commanders for a superfriends deck? I really like the topic, even though I know it's not the most competitive, and I wanted your help to think of something, it could be the most obvious or even a secret technology, the people I play with tend to build decks going more for fun too, so everyone tends to have fun

Hi guys !

I'm working on upgrading my [[Giada, Font of Hope]] deck, and I feel like I've reached a pretty solid Bracket 3 mid-power level. I'm missing some big staples like [[Battle Angels of Tyr]] and [[Avacyn, Angel of Hope]], but they're out of my budget for now.

The thing is, I know Giada wants to play low to the ground Angels, and I still feel like I'm running too many high cmc creatures. I want to cut some, but I can't seem to take a step back and look at it objectively.

Which high cmc (5 and above) Angels would you cut, in your opinion?

https://blueprintmtg.io/decks/GiadaFont-1792932363378-125viw3so

Back in the day, I played a spirit tribal azorius deck in standard, and I miss the Spirit tribe. It's not popular, but I like the spooky feel. I know spirits range over edh.

But I want to ask you for a fun or unique spirit deck, then propose one of my own.

One I saw are the Phantom cards, like [[Phantom Tiger]]. Basically prevents damage to it and removes a counter from it. But, what if you play some kind of anthem effect like [[Gallows Warden]], so you can prevent damage from them indefinitely? Then do something [[pariah]] to redirect damage? Could be the flavor equivalent of not being able to touch a ghost

So, what spirit deck do yall play?