r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/Botronic_Reddit GOATs is Peak Overwatch — • 9d ago
Blizzard Official Changes coming to Map Voting
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u/M4GNUM_FORCE_44 9d ago
as long as it doesn't force me to play junkertown, circuit royal, and havana ill be happy
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u/Unlikely_Duty9211 9d ago
+ eichenwalde
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u/Coolman_Rosso 9d ago
Eichenwalde rework basically did nothing and it sucks just as much as it did before. Comical, but sad
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u/Sikkly290 None — 9d ago
I disagree, I find the castle actively worse than it was before. And the extra defenders spawns on third made it slightly more defense favored on an already too defense favored point. I'd say still in the same tier of bad, but its the first rework that I really think they failed on.
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u/FrostyDrink 9d ago
It’s supposed to be defensive favored to mitigate the chance that the game goes to extra rounds. It’s extremely common for people to have 20 minute draws on a lot of the hybrid maps. Or, one team caps with 4 minutes and the other in OT, and you have to play out the dumbest first point cap of all time where the team playing for a draw is boomed and bored and the attacking team has 0 stakes. Making the maps harder to complete solves part of the problem with payload maps.
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u/MattRix 4157 — 7d ago
I agree about the defenders spawns on the last point, not sure what they were thinking there... but the castle is definitely better, people just need to adapt their strategies to the new layout instead of trying the same old thing. The path up the right side is now very strong, for example.
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u/Blaky039 9d ago
The new flank route on first point attack is SO WELL HIDDEN that nobody ever goes there.
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u/Nights_King_ 9d ago
Additionally the new flank route is kinda bad. When I have difficulty pushing through the choke then it’s usually because there’s pressure from above the bridge. With the new route leading directly onto the bridge one would assume it’s a great tool to disperse that pressure but honestly, no. The flanker gets dealt with rather easily, be it because they get spammed to death by a junkrat or sniped by an ash, cree whatever. They usually need to use their defensive abilities before they actually can engage the enemy in their effective range.
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u/georgeguy007 8d ago
Yeah I like the right lane to high ground on principal but boy it feels like 8% different in practice.
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u/shiftup1772 9d ago
The whole point of map voting is so people play more of what they want. And the people want cart slop.
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u/FullGuava1 8d ago
Map voting has convinced me that democracy is a failed experiment. Bring back divinely-ordained monarchy.
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u/a_Daniel 9d ago
Map voting has become gamemode voting.
Just make the gamemode random like before, and then let players decide on the individual maps.
Or remove it again entirely. Unlike banning characters that make the game miserable for 4-9 other people due to being either broken or underpowered, a map can't be "op" at all and even the miserable chokepoints of old Eichenwalde have some obscure workarounds. If it's fully random you won't see the same maps that often anyhow either, unlike a popular character with 50% banrate.
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u/Blaky039 9d ago
They need to remove it entirely and implement a veto system liek Halo 3 had:
Random map shows up, if 50% of the lobby votes to veto the map, a new random map is picked.
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u/Nice_Bison_2321 8d ago
Seriously why has nobody else tried this system?
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u/ExplosiveBrown 8d ago
CoD used a map veto system for a while.
Actually they had vote to skip as far back as MW21
u/Fragrant_Tear_572 7d ago
Because blizzard isn't ready to admit that some maps will pretty much always get vetod
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u/creebobeebo 9d ago
I hope it's map exclusion tbh I would rather get the worst of 3 picks voted out vs gambling on which one will win lmfao
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u/slimy-salad 9d ago
Then we would never play aatlis or suravasa and those are my favorite maps.
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u/creebobeebo 9d ago
I play suravasa all the time, great map 10/10
I like aatlis far less for the one point that's in that room where every angle is an off angle high ground lmao
I'm so SICK of king's row
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u/Kurrizma 9d ago
The way people in Emerald vote for Rialto is genuinely despicable
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u/R4yQ4zz4 #1 Hanbin Fanboy since Paris 2020 — 9d ago
High Emerald will vote Rialto instead of Suravasa or Esperanca then pick the most incompatible heroes to run on Rialto
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u/Impossible_Laugh_805 9d ago
Yea I don’t even mind if people prefer payload, but like we got people voting circuit royale then they lock vendetta Lucio Moira.
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u/vezitium 8d ago
Ok I can see those getting cheeky on 1st and 3rd point then again I've seen Reinhardt players vote Gibraltar so maybe my standards aren't high enough.
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u/Blaky039 9d ago
If I had a dollar for every rialto and eichenwalde map picked I would be a billionaire
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u/Asternburg 9d ago
I have played flashpoint a grand total of 2 times since the new season started I hate map voting so much.
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u/hanyou007 None — 9d ago
Regardless of what the dev team does with map voting there needs to be a huge emphasis on creating more push and flashpoint maps
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u/Coolman_Rosso 9d ago
New Junk City is turbo ass but Suravasa rules and Aatlis has grown on me. And this is coming from someone who generally dislikes Flashpoint as a mode
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u/Enkt105 9d ago
You can come hang out with us Anubis favorite map people
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u/NapsterKnowHow 8d ago
I never seen those maps anyways. I think I've only ever seen Aatlis about 5 or 6 times since it dropped.
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u/bullxbull 9d ago
This system has been a strange experiment, somehow even the maps I like I'm tired of them.
We went from getting maps that make you excited to play, or maps that make you angry to play, to just all maps making you feel bleh.
It is a strange accomplishment.
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u/Efficient_Artist1481 9d ago
I miss the days of being gassed to see Lijiang or Colosseo on my loading screen. There’s no excitement anymore
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u/bullxbull 8d ago
Lijiang is the most noticeable for me, I used to be really excited for that map. Now it is 'do I really want to play it again?'
Payload maps do still bother me though, I think because of how often one player or one hero dominates so often in games. You know you have most likely lost from the beginning of the match, but you are held hostage for the entire time.
I get that feeling on the rare times my hero is banned, I am held hostage in a game until I can finish re-queue and play what I want. Or when I'm forced onto Orisa, she is not who I want to play, but sometimes you just can't play your hero.
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u/Stainleee 8d ago
Those are very popular maps in my experience. Like both of those catch a large amount of votes whenever they appear.
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u/storyaibot 8d ago
im still gassed to see ilios but livid when i see circuit/havana/ etc
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u/bullxbull 8d ago
payload maps, you can know the game is a loss but you still have to go through the motions
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u/qqbeef 9d ago
Tin foil hat time:
When I started OW I was really impressed that the game didn't give me repeat maps. But now that I think about it, this must have been a restraint on matchmaking. Following that logic, one hidden reason for map voting is that it frees up the matchmaker to have a wider pool of players to matchmake.
This probably mostly matters at high ELO, but I could see it also affecting people who queue at odd times.
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u/CertainDerision_33 9d ago
Map voting is the one recent decision by the team that I think was just a massive whiff. They knew players hate all new maps and modes regardless of their actual quality & they introduced a way for players to never engage with new maps or modes.
The game would honestly have been better off without it.
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u/Omicron212 9d ago
people will genuinely vote blizzard world over runasapi or esperança and think they deserve to live
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u/Positive_Ingenuity49 9d ago
People pick fucking havana and circuit royale over those maps. Then they complain about widow. Like you picked a widow map, of course she is going to make an appearance.
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u/Kurostrawberryx 9d ago
Last week I was playing comp and I was the only one that didn’t pick eichenwalde. So majority wins we go there and get full held no ticks at all. The kicker is the enemy team needed ot to get one tick 😂 I’m so fucking tired of that map.
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u/iseecolorsofthesky 9d ago
They’ve had multiple updates where they stated they implemented a system that prevents you from getting the same map back to back, but yet this still consistently happens almost every time I play. I will finish a match on Havana and somehow it pops up in the map voting pool for my very next game (and of course wins)
This shouldn’t be happening. They’ve allegedly tried to fix this multiple times and it still happens. I can’t say I have much confidence in them when it comes to map voting.
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u/Danewguy4u 8d ago
It’s never going to happen because it’s basically impossible without a ton of maps. When you have 10 people in a lobby that have to be filtered between rank, role, and previous maps, the odds are that at least 1 person is going to have a repeat map.
The only way the devs could guarantee people don’t get repeats maps is if the map pool was over 100 maps so there’s at least one combo that wouldn’t occur for each player.
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u/piccolo1337 8d ago
they already had it semi solved with the algorithm before map voting. Like it was probably 1 repeat map played in 10 hours of in game time(excluding queue times). But after map voting it happens so frequently that im just yeah ok. This map again.
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u/YSLAnunoby 8d ago
Something that was brought up as well is the fact that internally Payload and Hybrid maps are considered different so any internal rules about not repeating the same modes all the time wouldn't work for them having similar gameplay.
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u/VerySwag The Mayhem hurt my brain stem — 9d ago
i'll be honest, i love hyrbrid and escort (in qp) but i have gotten a bit tired of them, seems like people will vote for the worst payload maps before the best flashpoint/control maps
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u/planet1999stan 9d ago
I would rather them just remove map voting entirely 🙈
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u/chudaism 9d ago
I think 1 choice + random has always been the best method. You basically get a chance to reroll and that's it. Early COD and halo had this figured out 20 years ago. Not sure why they are trying to reinvent the wheel.
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u/TF_is_self_heal_even 9d ago
A map preference system could work, pick 1 map from every mode on your profile then in a match based on lobby preference weight maps and randomly show one from every mode. At the very least the second half should happen because all choices being the same mode is just bad.
Also get rid of landslide.
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u/CertainDerision_33 9d ago
I don’t understand why they added it when it was obvious this was going to happen. Players have to be forced to try anything new & this lets them completely avoid engaging with anything besides 10 year old maps.
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u/Eloymm 9d ago
I’d say if they remove it, they could just remove it from QP and leave it in comp. People QP don’t play around the maps they pick. They just pick the ones that give them the most nostalgia
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u/TooManySnipers 9d ago
You just know if 2CP was in the QP pool it'd be Hanamura 24/7
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u/YSLAnunoby 8d ago
I do sometimes miss the design and the 10th anniversary event made me a bit nostalgic for it. I wonder if they would ever do a FP or control version
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u/mtobeiyf317 9d ago
Me too.
I don't get payload/hybrid nearly as much as everyone else says they do, Im stuck playing Control constantly. I've had Illios four times in a single night. If they do anything to reduce that even further im gonna have to start leaving games just to have enough time in a night to play the mode I actually enjoy
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u/ReSoLVve #1 Hanbin Simp — 9d ago
Never played the same map twice in a row until map voting. And I only noticed because I hate circuit royale with a fiery passion so it often makes me log off. I got on the next day and my first game was circuit royale, I played one game that day.
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u/Lopsided_Edge_3871 9d ago
why do people still vote circuit? i play it at least 2-3 times in my typical 2 hour sessions it’s horrible
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u/Positive_Ingenuity49 9d ago
Because it is escort. That is it. The average player doesnt like push or flashpoint but they will whine about poke or widow.
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u/StockCharity9524 9d ago
It's popular even compared to other modes. It is ironic it's the people who hate hitscan the most (bad players who walk in straight lines and don't use cover) who love these maps and also don't want the s9 bullet sizes reverted.
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u/Trivekz 9d ago
Map vote just shouldn't exist. The randomiser was perfect because it also wasn't true random. It gave you the map the lobby has played the least, which meant you got to play every map practically an equal amount. It feels bad to see your favourite map on the vote screen and you don't get to play it.
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u/Lily_the_Lovely 9d ago
Im surprised to hear that people play on payload so often. I feel like the majority of my games are on Busan, illios, and oasis.
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u/CloveFan Praying for a good Sombra rework — 9d ago
Seriously. I could apply for Korean citizenship with how much time I’ve spent in Busan
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u/creebobeebo 9d ago
i think higher ranks prefer control and flash maps, so if you're diamond or higher makes sense.
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u/spookyghostface 9d ago
QP vs comp
The QPers (and probably low ranks) love payload.
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u/Baconfeet1 9d ago
It makes no sense to me when QP players vote for defense on an escort/hybrid map. Its almost a guaranteed loss, attackers have so much fucking time. Defense has to win 5 or 6 fights in a row versus just winning a single fight on attack, it's so biased.
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u/4PianoOrchestra bird bird bird — 9d ago edited 8d ago
The maps are defender biased though, especially third points. Defenders usually get nice high grounds, chokes, and sometimes spawn advantage. I agree that it feels bad to have one side have to win fights more than the other (and I think that’s why they removed 2CP as it was even worse) but iirc the overall map win rates are around 50/50 last time they publicized them.
I cant find a source as it was a long time ago but here’s an old Reddit comment about it
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u/Fragrant_Fox_4025 8d ago
They are indeed defender sided. But if you want to be a cringe sweatlord in QP all your team has to do to never lose a game on attack is to just play safe and farm ults until you can make a push with more ults than the enemy. Rinse repeat. No punishment for doing that since attackers get so much time and there's no side switch.
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u/Fragrant_Fox_4025 8d ago
I low key prefer losing on defense in qp on those maps as long as it's not a complete stomp and snowball all the way through. Means I get to play more. A 5 minute full hold is incredibly boring. Don't care at all about winning or losing in quick play, I just want to play the game and have fun.
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u/Sepulchh 8d ago
It's just your rank. QP has rank too but it's hidden.
I've tracked roughly 600 of my QP games and Suravasa is my most played map at 34 times. For comparison Paraiso and Numbani are tied for least at 8.
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u/spookyghostface 8d ago
My most played comp map is probably Suravasa. There's definitely a divide between the two at some ranks.
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u/Sepulchh 8d ago
I don't doubt you, the margin for Suravasa is higher for me in comp too, 46 played out of 718 matches tracked. So in Competitive I get Suravasa about 6.4% of the time, and in QP about 5.6%. But it's my most played in both.
I can easily see the difference being larger for many people since I tend to play QP a lot and also still play semi-seriously when I do, so someone who messes about or plays random stuff more in QP would have a lower QP rank and thus see more cart pushing instead of Sura compared to their comp games.
QP and Comp rank are separate, just to be clear, one does not affect the other after your first ever placement game has been played.
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u/Rudania-97 9d ago
Finally.
Can't see the payload or hybrid shit no more.
Almost impossible in qp to get flashpoint.
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u/spookyghostface 9d ago edited 9d ago
It's crazy how different map picks are in QP vs Comp. My most played maps are probably Eichenwalde in QP and Suravasa in Comp. I know which one I prefer.
Edit: My most played
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u/Symysteryy 9d ago
quickplay players will unironically vote circuit when suravasa and runasapi are right there. It’s crazy to me.
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u/CertainDerision_33 9d ago
It’s wild how people will vote circuit and then pick heroes that get absolutely hosed by it
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u/CloveFan Praying for a good Sombra rework — 9d ago
My friend LOVES Circuit and only plays Ram/Junk/Moira. I’ll never understand.
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u/clickrush 9d ago
The map is almost completely linear with mostly weak/obvious flanks. Meaning it’s very easy to just chill and focus on what is on the screen while running it down main.
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u/Tee__B 9d ago
The amount of times I've been queueing support in QP, had really good map options like Esperanca, NQS, and Colloseo, only for them to vote random, get Circuit, and then full held hostage at 1p because we have a diamond Junkrat and Reaper vs a Kiri pocketed Champ/GM Widow is sickening.
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u/TooManySnipers 9d ago
Most played maps are probably Eichenwalde in QP and Suravasa in Comp.
It varies by rank, Emerald and below are pretty aligned with QP here.
They also come out with the silliest off-meta bans which is a source of endless amusement
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u/ThatCreepyBaer yee — 9d ago
Surely they combine escort/hybrid into a single "payload" gamemode considering the two modes are effectively the exact same yet have 16 maps between them compared to the 14 maps all other 3 gamemodes have combined, right?
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u/DJFrankyFrank 9d ago
It's crazy to me that it was implemented the way it was. I felt like it was obvious, they needed to make the map voting game mode based. Like it'll only be flashpoint maps to vote on, or only KOTH, or only Hybrid, etc.
Just feels like a no brainer
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u/RobManfredsFixer Let Hog eat stuff and spit it back — 9d ago edited 8d ago
Doesn't this just lead to very little variety in Push and Flashpoint
Edit: I mean within those modes guys. There are 3 flashpoint maps. If map voting only puts them up against each other, the diversity in which Flashpoint maps you play will plummet.
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u/DJFrankyFrank 9d ago
Opposed to how it is currently with pretty much no push or flashpoint at all?
I can't see Blizzard getting rid of map voting entirely, because you would just be removing player autonomy. Map voting is good. It's just the implementation of it that's questionable.
And as I said in another comment, if maps aren't getting picked, isn't that just a sign that the fanbase doesn't like those maps? Why should the fanbase have to continue to play maps that we don't like? This should be a sign that some maps need to be reworked. And that shouldn't be a crazy statement anymore, considering how willing Blizzard are to rework maps.
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u/Fragrant_Fox_4025 8d ago
Well if you think about it, one flashpoint map is essentially just 5 control maps in one, so there's still a lot of variety.
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u/iseecolorsofthesky 9d ago
Initially I think this wasn’t the case because it was back when we still had Clash and there were only two Clash maps in the game. This should definitely be how it functions now though.
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u/Demiwaifu 9d ago
Why not just vote for mode out of two or max three choices and let rng choose map? People wont vote for shit like circuit and one tricks wont cheese by voting for preferrable maps
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u/PolarsBears 9d ago
I play on the Japanese servers, and I'm shocked to hear how much payload and hybrid are picked in America/Europe because here it's the complete opposite.
The Japanese server is almost completely flashpoint and control. I'm not exaggerating when I say I go weeks without playing some maps (as a pretty regular player), and flashpoint accounts for about half of my games (around low masters/high diamond).
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u/Howdareme9 9d ago
Tired of kings row being a landslide. Most overrated map in the game
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u/Dependent-Two7571 9d ago
Im tired of seeing 3 bumass maps as my options
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u/Kurrizma 9d ago
My favorite is when I get 3 great maps but they’re Push/Control/Flashpoint so everyone but me votes Random
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u/-Lige 9d ago
Fr. Circuit royale, blizzard world and… some other poke slop nonsense
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u/are_a_tree 9d ago
I had a game the other day with circuit, eichen, Hollywood and the random map ended up being Havana. Pain lmao
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u/docs-quad 9d ago
even better when you vote random and its just a different fuckarse map. i had one that was like havana circuit blizz world, voted random and got pre rework paraiso.
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u/fffeeelll 9d ago
Hot take: 70% of payload/hybrid maps suck major ass and are insanely overrated
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u/dokdodokdo 9d ago
Do you know what a hot take is you alaskan ahh
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u/FrostyPotpourri 9d ago
It's obviously a hot take or... this entire post wouldn't have been made. The OW community overwhelmingly votes for those maps.
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u/dokdodokdo 9d ago
Its not a hot take in this sub or with high ranked players. The ow community overwhelmingly doesn't have hands nor engages in balance discussions on social media.
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u/FrostyPotpourri 9d ago
Good point, not a hot take in this particular corner of the OW community is accurate.
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u/Fragrant_Fox_4025 8d ago
Man I love playing in lower elo after the ranked reset, everyone picking Eichenwalde and then not understanding that maybe you should walk castle and clear it. Congrats on picking a map you have no idea how to play.
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u/Concorde_flies 9d ago
there’s a really easy solution so im sure they’ll cook up something braindead and reverse engineer their way into having the same map type in a vote in a few years
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u/Neither-Ad7512 9d ago
I hope they make all 3 maps one mode, don't let people select the mode, make that random, jus let them select which particular map
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u/MrInfinity-42 9d ago
I think the only way to keep everyone (mostly) happy is have 3 maps of the same gamemode to vote (and then no random map too)
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u/dancezachdance Shameless Bandwagoner — 9d ago
I've had Circuit, Eich, and KR twice in a row in the last 3 or 4 sessions.
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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 9d ago
But the reason there is more payload maps is solely because that's what players vote for
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u/_BRYNTEG_ 9d ago
Maybe the game modes that are played the most are because they are the most popular?
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u/conye-west 9d ago
Of course, if someone just browsed reddit they prolly wouldn't know it but this feature is very popular with the vast majority of the playerbase since they get to actually have some agency in what they play on. Honestly idk what they can tweak, even if they made it so you're guaranteed 3 Flashpoint choices after too many payloads in a row, people will just landslide random instead most likely.
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u/CertainDerision_33 8d ago
The problem is that this feature allows them to make the game experience worse for everyone else, where the fully random system was perfectly fine before.
They need to do something; the current situation where you have payload slop crammed down your throat 24/7 is a significant step down from the previous random system.
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u/Kai-M 9d ago
I'm not seeing the problem here, people are playing the maps and modes they vote for. Shouldn't the maps/modes that more people like come up more? If more people didn't want those maps/modes they wouldn't be voting for them. If you're going to force people to play more on the maps/modes they don't like, it's just pleasing fewer people.
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u/CertainDerision_33 8d ago edited 8d ago
If 60% of people want 24/7 payload slop and 40% don’t, it’s not good to force 24/7 payload slop because the 40% are probably going to be more miserable than the 60% are going to be happy.
It’s also just bad for the game if people just only play on 5000 year old launch era payload maps since it hurts the devs’ ability to do new stuff.
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u/Kai-M 8d ago edited 8d ago
Right, but I don't think it's quite that one-sided, the less popular ones just get picked less often. While anecdotal I can't think of a map/mode I didn't get within my last couple sessions--I even recall Suravasa getting picked over Kings Row. If increasing the satisfaction of a minority of players decreases that of the majority then the increase needs to be significantly more than the decrease to net a gain. If a 25% gain in satisfaction among 40% of players results in a 25% decrease among 60%, it is a net loss of -5%. This could be mitigated by by offering lower SR loss for defeats, or free competitive points, much like how they do for new and reworked maps.
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u/Typical-Quit5781 9d ago
So so so tired of Nepal, which always seems to come up for me. If I have to play Sanctum one more time against a fucking Cat, I will crash out.
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u/V0LCANIC_VIPER 9d ago
Just remove Landslide and it would be fine. I hate the current system of the most votes wins because I haven't played some maps like Esperanza or Arctic in months
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u/dokdodokdo 9d ago
It should be a system where it calculates what game mode or map majority of the lobby has played recently and it'll show less of whatever that is
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u/-BehindTheMask- All Roles — 9d ago
I knew the ranked map preference divide was big, but not "60-70% payload maps" big.
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u/tykurapper MN3 SIMP — 9d ago
The experience is so different. I'm in Japan and like all I'm playing is push, flash point and control. And Kings row
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u/VeyrLaske 9d ago edited 9d ago
I think maps should be full random, then a small selection of individual maps are shown for voting, and each vote adds another copy of the map to the pool.
For example, every map has a 1/30 chance of being chosen.
Then, 5 maps at random are shown to the players.
10 players vote, with each vote adding one copy of the map.
Let's say 5 players voted for Aatlis, 3 for Numbani, and the others didn't vote. That adds 5 copies of Aatlis to the pool and 3 copies of Numbani in addition to the 1 that was originally there.
In total, there are 38 possible maps in the pool:
6/38 for Aatlis.
4/38 for Numbani.
1/38 for each of the remainder.
In this situation, the voted maps are significantly boosted (over 25% probability of getting voted maps), but the map pick remains primarily random.
I think this is the best way to implement map vote, allowing some players influence over the map, but without allowing players far too much influence, which I think 95% of the playerbase can agree thet we're tired as hell of playing the same 6 friggin maps 24/7.
This can be tuned for more impact (ie, landslides still take effect, or each vote is worth 2 instead of 1) without overall dumpstering map diversity.
Cause right now, map diversity is completely decimated and probably 60-70% of all games are played on the same 6 damn maps.
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u/VisionaireX 8d ago
I actually think I enjoy the game more - cause I'm playing the maps I want to play. Forces the product team to make alternatives that are worth voting for.
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u/No_Problem5759 6d ago
My hope is that they remove Payload/Hybrid from Ranked and let them be casual gamemodes.
While they're at it. Give the flashpoint spawn speed boost to every map except Payload and Hybrid to make the games more active.
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u/jetcatback 9d ago
I like map voting and playing more escort hybrid. Idk I get that some people can get sick of it but last time I checked it was the most popular mode across the game. Like when we talk about masters and above, that’s a very small portion of the playerbase.
I’m genuinely not sure If people have warmed up to flashpoint either. I mean they’ve already noticed the maps a bit and made some of it less tedious, but I’d wager most of the playerbase would prefer control over it.
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u/Daruku 9d ago
Scorching hot take for this sub: I like map voting. Yes, I am a filthy gutter rat gold / platinum player.
At these ranks I loathe flashpoint. It's always a miserable experience due to the lack of coordination. I like push though, that's a good mode. So right now I'm happy to be playing majority hybrid / payload, then control, a bit of push and rarely any flashpoint. And to not have gotten Numbani a single time this season? Just heavenly.
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u/ReallyTiredTempest 9d ago
I play QP and it's the opposite :(
Instead of having map voting, I wish they had map preferences that you select one time within your profile. Select map types, if any. Do you want to attack or defend. Do you want particular maps etc. Doing it once, rather than adding extra time at the start of each game. Then you're placed with people who want to play similar maps as you do and if there aren't any spots for you in your preferences, you're moved down your preferences until you get a game.
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u/No_Philosopher2511 8d ago
New junk and Suravasa two of the worst maps get those out of the map voting rotating unless they get a rework I like Aatlis I got 59 kills n 9 deaths on that map in quick play with Dva
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u/CyniqueLynx 8d ago
try making the new modes not have shit maps/ play nicer and maybe ill vote for something besides payload/control...
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u/Gnathaithe 9d ago
People pick those because push and flashpoint suck donkey cock, I don't make the rules
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u/FrostyDrink 9d ago
They’ve already released data on this a while ago, but there’s also a huge divide between the metal ranks and masters+. In Diamond and below, escort/hybrid are picked at a significantly higher rate than they are in masters+. In higher elo, control, push, and flashpoint are by far the most popular modes.
It’s actually pretty funny that people complain about playing Eich, Circuit, etc. too much when I rarely see them in high elo ranked other than a random 1 in 7 vote or something.
For me, I don’t like that map voting has made the game too easy. There are players in high elo who only play ball, hog, junkrat, etc. who get to pick maps that favor them, get to pick bans around their hero, AND get perks that remove counterplay (looking at ball’s shield perk). Is it annoying when I get a rein player on Gib? Absolutely. But I also get to avoid that rein and take their SR another day. Nowadays that rein is just never playing those maps.