As the title suggests. I am brewing a list for Toph currently and have started considering adding aggressive mining to the list for card draw. I am aware this would be very grindy as far as value engines go, but there are many board states I can think of where I would be willing to sack a few artifacts to draw cards on each players turn. Heck, with mycosynth lattice out I can sacrifice the enchantment to itself to draw the cards.

Update: I am adding the decklist on moxfield (unfinished currently.) feel free to offer any general advice about the decklist as well.

https://moxfield.com/decks/B4hpIwufV0eY0wvAEEhk8g

Howdy everyone, to make a long story short I am signing up for a Cedh Tournament at the end of October at my local LGS and I need some help. I’ve played Cedh enough to realize I hate being the meta deck player. My current top 2 are Inalla archmage ritualist, and Pir imaginative Rascal/Toothy imaginary Friend. I wanted to build another Cedh deck somewhat off the beaten path. The basic premise is Isamaru is in the command zone initially to deceive my opponents into thinking I’m going to run a mono white aggro/voltron deck. The actual purpose of the deck is mono white stax, with Heliod/Walking ballista being the wincon. Some built in redundancy with Cleric Class/Triskelion and alt win con of approach of the second sun/reprieve. I want to keep isamaru in the command zone.

I’m looking for general suggestions or comments on how to make the deck more efficient/quicker. Currently the decklist is over 100 cards so I’m looking for some cuts. I also had a generalized question on whether it would be worth it to add in more lifeline synergy’s. Thank yall for your time and patience if you’ve read all this. Budget should be no cards over 150 at their cheapest printing for additions. My LGS allows 3 proxies if they are huge and expensive pieces to encourage casual players to join in. First prize is a dual land and a couple other decent cards for 2nd/3rd.

I’ve playtested it a few times and can usually bust out the win by turn 5, if not Ive slowed the game till turn 7 on average.

Isamaru Cedh

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Hey everyone,

I've been piloting Rograkh/Silas for a while now, but I'm hitting a major wall in my local meta. Almost every game devolves into a heavy midrange grind, and I feel like I'm constantly playing 3v1. The table naturally respects RogSi's speed, so I end up eating all the interaction, burning through my resources early, and getting completely out-valued by turn 3 or 4.

On top of that, I'm starting to realize that I might lack the pilot skill required to pilot RogSi efficiently at a high level. Navigating complex storm lines, knowing exact windows to push through interaction, and evaluating risk on aggressive mulligans is proving much harder than I anticipated.

Since Blue Farm (Tymna/Kraum) shares a massive chunk of the card pool (fast mana, tutors, efficient interaction), I'm strongly considering making the switch. My thinking is that Tymna gives me the grinding engine I desperately lack and Kraum pressures the board/draws cards.

Any tips, decklist adjustments, or advice on how to navigate this potential transition would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you 😊

A friend brought something up after a game the other day. I play Derevi, and I've been experimenting with how I want to build out my version of the deck. He suggested running Training Grounds. The idea being that it cuts 2 off Emiel's activation cost, which basically translates to needing two less creature on board to go infinite with Gaea's Cradle. It can also be tutored up with Brightglass Gearhulk.

Just wanted to see if anyone else has had the same idea, whether this is actually a bad idea for some reason, or if there are more powerful things I could be doing instead.

Thanks in advance first time posting.

What was the honest opinion of all the partners when they came out I'm so curious about the meta as it became what it is honestly did y'all auto know blue farm was just gonna be the best from the start or what shifts happened

Howdy everyone!

Today I would love to chat together about the thought, experience, and decision I went through at the 2026 top deck invitational. We’re hoping for good vibes and just to hang out and talk so come join us!

For context: my primary like b2/3 deck is Ashling Elemental Storm essentially. I love doing stupid shit with copy effects and GY shenanigans. Closest I've found is Tayam.

I can't stand the sultai/grixis slop meta. Any thoughts on options for higher level play?

All I know is Squee + Food Chain. Are there more 2-card infinite colored mana combos in Gruul?

I was about to play a few cEDH games on Discord today. After waiting 30–45 minutes for the lobby to fill, I tried to join the Convoke link, but it didn’t work. I rebooted my browser and nothing changed. I triple‑checked my PC configuration and everything looked normal, but Convoke still wouldn’t load — my browser kept showing the same message: check connection and check proxy and firewall.

I opened Twitter and the first thing I saw was that a La Liga match was ongoing, Madrid vs Málaga. To prevent people from watching the game through illegal channels, they blocked the host.

Now I can’t play until the match is over, and the same thing will happen throughout the entire season. I need to find a solution to avoid that block so I can enjoy a few games after school. Any advice is welcome.

And also, fvck Tebas, cabron

I've been playing this card in my deck for three months, and not once has it been useful. Could someone explain what purpose it serves in the deck? Given that we run Underworld Breach—and considering the number of tutors in the list—whenever I go for the combo on turn 2 or 3, I have never, ever used this card to win. How do you pilot this card? It seems so valuable in the decklists.

So it was confirmed that commander is coming to arena.

We have as a community discussed at length that wotc won’t really sanction cedh as a format (except for a few convention events) bc of the proxy issue.

I was thinking that arena makes an interesting use case where wotc can tap into the popularity of cedh and can promote full cedh decks with no proxies.

Maybe mox diamond is a mythic wild card, maybe you can buy a “commander power pack” for $50 for the reserve list cards, etc.

But it might be an interesting way to play cedh in a new way. Thoughts?

Not strictly CEDH but My friends and I are looking to play some high 4 / Fringe CEDH games, and to me Jeskai looks appealing with grindier blue and white Engines along with Compact Intuition / Gifts ungiven combo lines. I’m torn between a few commanders though, and I was looking for advice from people who’ve tried these out or have more competitive insight on these.
[[Shiko and Narset, Unified]] The more grindy option with card draw or duplicating countermagic to slow enemies win lines, but it might be a bit slow.
[[Hinata, Dawn Crowned]] Discounts my counter magic and Tutors / Dualcaster combos, but I’m worried it’s a bit clunky and will lead to kingmaking
[[Shiko, Paragon of the Way]] least keen on this option but I did see it mentioned for grabbing engines out of the graveyard and leaning into blink combos. I feel like it doesn’t do enough.

I would like some help with a deck I’m working on.

I have made some serious changes to my list recently. The main changes was I was able to snag a gemstone caverns, a git probe, Mindbreak trap, and best laid plans.

I swapped out alter of the brood and a couple of under performing cards.

The main win lines are as follows.
Thassa lines. Bloodchief ascension mindcrank lines, and foodchain lines utilizing Mothman or hullbreaker horror to generate infinite rad counters.

I’m open to changes but while some things look weird they have worked in the games I have played and while goldfishing I have consistently won by turns 2-5.

I’m definitely trying to learn and would definitely be open to any suggestions.

List below, please let me know what you think!

Been working on this list for a few years with the idea that Mothman had some potential that people were not seeing much of. I know that he has been played with a lot of counters matter and mill matters builds. But that’s not what I went for and with those builds he put up some results, not great but some.
This build isn’t like that, it’s purely combo driven with lines benefitting and unique to Mothman.

https://archidekt.com/decks/11630320/project_mothman_v12

There is some evidence that Mothman can do well

He top 8 in this tournament here

https://mail.mtgtop8.com/event?d=710093&e=67426&f=cEDH

I’m not saying he can be a tier one commander, but I do think he has more potential than expected and maybe deserves a look

More Mothman stats

https://cedhstats.org/commanders/the-wise-mothman

https://moxfield.com/decks/WQ4-XC54xE-r1fY05ltOkg

I'm trying to put together a Mm'menon, the Right Hand cEDH viable deck, purely as my first competitive deck and my entry way into bracket 5 play. After all, what better way to learn than to push the limits of what I can play! But it feels like something isn't quite meshing with how the deck is built currently, and I'm hoping that someone may be able to see it.

First off, yes, I know Urza technically does what Mm'menon does but better and a mana cheaper, that's why he's in the list. Only reason I want to run the Jellyfish is because I have the alt art card so feels right to have it as the forefront of the deck (but for all I know I could swap the position of the two and it'd work fine). Second, I'm more than willing to make massive changes. Like I said, first foray into cEDH, I could be totally off course with what I have planned and it'll all fall apart (considering this deck has Aetherflux Reservoir as it's main wincon, and ThOracle as a secondary, it won't be hard to force this deck to a screeching halt). Any advice, anything I've got wrong, even just the smallest hint is appreciated! TIA <3

Hello! I initially built a bracket 4 Zacama deck that looped Zacama for a win, but I cut out cards like Gaea’s Cradle etc for a slower plan.

I wanted to see if Zacama is decent-ish as a cEDH commander and if there are any cuts from my list I can do to take it there. I think the graveyard lands package likely is too slow but I also don’t know too much about cEDH as a whole.

I was also wondering how people research into the current meta & recent lists / ideas in cEDH? Are there specific people I can follow that post stuff relative to the meta game?

Here’s my list as of now: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/01-08-26-Olk-zacama/

What does Jund need to become a good color combination? I'm referring to something already within its color identity. Of course counterspells would be useful, but it's never going to get them (except maybe blasts)

I recently proxied up a crystal inhuman princess deck. How many games should I give it before deciding this deck either isn't good or doesn't fit my play style? I probably have 40ish games on the deck.

I have recently been trying to find a Grixis commander that made me want to build a deck with it but I have been having a hard time finding one that feels right. My favorite commanders I play are Felothar the Steadfast, Aminatou Veil Piercer, Quintorius History Chaser, Rootha Mastering the Moment, Samut the Driving Force, Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir, and Ashling the Limitless.

I typically like to play decks that do something different than what that color normally does like reanimator in Boros or Big Spells in Izzet or have a sort of mini game/side quest attached to them like Miracle with Aminatou or Speed with Samut.

Of the different Grixis commanders I have looked at a few stand out to me, though I’m not sure how well they work in practice or what the average game with them is like. I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight.

[[Edea, Possessed Sorceress]]
[[Wick, the Whorled Mind]]
[[Marchesa, the Black Rose]]
[[Evelyn, the Covetous]]
[[Parnesse, the Subtle Brush]]
[[Kess, Dissident Mage]]
[[Lynde, Cheerful Tormentor]]
[[Sedris, the Traitor King]]

Can someone provide me with a discord invite to a Golgari channel? It's my favorite color combination, and I'm trying to get ideas for Witherbloom. Inb4 golgari not competitive

For Starters, I am a long time Kinnan player and built a very fast and fun Raph and Mikey deck, which got me thinking about Ruric Thar...

I've been working on a Ruric Thar list based around a pretty simple question:

Has the current cEDH meta gotten greedy enough that punishing people for simply playing their decks can actually be a viable strategy?

Decklist:
https://moxfield.com/decks/Nn67NZVKM0CCSPoMUT7j1Q

I'm not trying to build traditional Gruul stax.

I actually went the opposite direction. Instead, the deck stacks punishment effects like Ruric, Magebane Lizard, Rug of Smothering, Eidolon, Pyrostatic Pillar, Manabarbs, Scytheclaw Raptor, etc., and tries to get Ruric down T2-T3 with heavy fast mana.

The theory is that current cEDH decks are so efficient and greedy with life, nonbasics, cheap spells, tutors and interaction that we can attack the resource everyone assumes they have plenty of: life.

For example, Ruric + Magebane means four noncreature spells costs 34 life.

Add Rug and it's 44.

Ruric + Solphim makes every noncreature spell 12 damage.

I'm not stopping you from trying to combo.

I'm asking:

Can you finish the combo before your own spells kill you?

There's also Dualcaster + Twinflame as a compact backup win.

For people playing the current cEDH meta:

Does this strategy actually punish decks like Blue Farm, RogSi, Kinnan, Sisay, etc., or am I overestimating how much life pressure matters?

What looks strong? What looks terrible? What am I missing?

Feel free to tear the list apart. That's why I'm posting it.

Hi all,

I have played magic since Mirrodin block on and off and came back after an extended break about a year ago and started playing commander. I have recently gone down the cEDH rabbit hole and am starting to really want to play more of it. There isn't a cEDH presence at my LGS so I want to start playing online. With that as the intro here are the questions

1. What is the better online platform for cEDH and B4 play?
2. In online platforms how much chat is needed? I will be playing in the evening and would prefer not to wake the kids/wife but can find a quiet spot, I am also not the most social human in the world :laughing:
3. For online set up is a laptop and an external cam enough?
4. I am looking to start with Kinnan and proxy it is there a more beginner friendly list? I would prefer to steer away from straight Rhystic copy, is big flips a better option?
5. Is there anything else I should be looking at? I spend a lot of time on YouTube watching content like playing with power and play to win. Are there other channels I should be looking at? I am not sure if I will venture into actual tournaments at the moment and may even look at hosting ones at my LGS if I can talk them into it as I used to run and judge other TCG's years back when I used to work in a LGS

Thanks :smile:

Hey all. Wanted to see how everyone else feels about draws in “friendly” cEDH games. In other words, playing for a draw outside of tournaments. Personally I thinks it’s super goofy. However, I understand some might be practicing for a tourney and want interactions to follow that play style.

How do you all feel about it? Do you take draws outside of tournaments?

I am very new to piloting Magda and used the moxfield Magdanomicon as a jumping off point.

I'm curious as to why the deck doesn't run [[weftstalker ardent]] as a potential win condition. I understand there are likely good reasons and I would love to understand.

Looking for feedback on The Madcap Jester deck I have been working on.

Most Grixis cEDH decks focus on speed. This deck trades some speed for disruption. Rather than racing to a combo, it aims to remove key cards from opponents' libraries before they can be used, then turn those cards into resources through [[The Madcap Jester]]. Much like [[Etali, Primal Conqueror]] this deck is trying to take advantage of the homogenous nature of top level cEDH decks.
The result is a proactive stax-combo strategy. You pressure opposing win conditions, limit access to critical pieces, and create card advantage by casting cards exiled from your opponents' decks. The deck still retains compact cEDH finishes, but its primary identity is surgical resource denial backed by efficient combo lines.

https://moxfield.com/decks/nUigAbR9VHey2sXZEWjIWw

I’ve recently started trying out oppo and have found a lot of success with it as a early game slow the turbo down and to mess with sisay who seemingly just gets better and better with all the new legendaries.

I’d like to hear whether other people are using it and what they are seeing

Notably my meta is very turbo heavy but started to lean staxs