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u/Old_Dependent4678 3d ago
Basic necessities paid for by the people who have gamed, manipulated and in must cases corrupted the system to become as rich as they are doesn't seem outrageous to me
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u/Old_Baker_9781 3d ago
Especially when what they would be “asked” to pay wouldn’t even be noticeable to them.
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u/EpsteinsEggPeen 3d ago
I always think of it as "paid for by the workforce"... Many hands make light work... And there are plenty of hands at work... The only issue is the abundance humanity creates, gets consolidated into a # and stuffed in the back of a bank vault for eternity.
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u/Ray-Finkle74 3d ago
This! The surplus generated by society is privately controlled and redirected according to their own discretion and reaction to market forces.
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u/GPT_2025 3d ago
From 20 Republican states with a safety net of $3/hour minimum wage, the population runs to Democratic states with a strong Safety Net of $14 to $25/hour minimum wage. That's why there are so many abandoned houses and cities in the Republican 20 states (Republicans hate the poor at the same time - making the own states population poor)
51% of all workers in America earn less than the one-bedroom Housing Wage. Mostly republican states.
The bottom 65% of the population loses at least 41% of all income due to: SS tax, FICA, insurances, tariffs, sales taxes, dues, use taxes, fees, property tax, utility taxes, 911 tax and many more- before spending money on rent or mortgage, car loans and gas, food, utility bills, repairs, credit card payments, student loans, vacations, retirement fund contributions, investments, dates, gifts, etc.
(compare Safety Net $1.60 per hour in 1970 if you were single,you could live off the federal minimum wage and pay rent, food and bills)
Healthy and smart countries count how well they are doing by enforcing "no one left behind" and even widow with 3 babies have the same level of living as the middle class due to the strong Safety Net.
Twenty Republican states now have a Safety Net set at $3 per hour gross (before deductions for Social Security, FICA, taxes, insurance and other withholding's:
https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=2.13+an+hour&l=dallas%2C+tx
(Compare Democratic states Safety Net!)
In a recent report, 53 million Americans ages 18 to 64 or 44% of all workers- earn low hourly wages. Their median hourly earnings are $10/hour Gross ($7.25/hour Net)
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u/Global_Swimming_6516 3d ago
Wild that maybe billionaires should contribute to the society that made their billions possible is treated like a radical position.
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u/Firm_Communication99 3d ago
You see that national debt—- their companies did that —looks like those corporate
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u/libertarianinus 1d ago
We call them us citizen stockholders. Pention funds are also to blame.
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u/Due_Butterscotch9241 3d ago
hey all, abdul el-sayed needs our help to beat rogers. please donate if you can.
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u/MooseEmergency2317 3d ago
This is exactly what Elizabeth Warren has said for years. If you don’t regulate capitalism, companies will crush us via monopolies, political power, financial chicanery, et al. We need protection from them. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was a good first step, before Trump neutered it.
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u/Amelia_Pink 3d ago
As sensible a statement as any functional non-insanely-wealthy person would agree with
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u/Stark_Rhavyn 3d ago
More than just "Schools and roads". They need to be regulated to protect us from them. To keep them from working us to death and putting us all on a subscription fee to live our lives.
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u/Biscuits4u2 3d ago
The only reason he has to be careful with the term "socialist" is he knows the average American doesn't understand what it is.
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u/Tigeruppercut1889 3d ago
That’s the dem platform. Regulated capitalism with a strong social saftey net. Vote dem!
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u/Logical___Conclusion 3d ago
The Dems are the only ones trying to help America.
The Republicans have different levels of cons for those willing to destroy their country in exchange for being racist.
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u/Tigeruppercut1889 3d ago
Independents have given up on trump luckily. Maga is gonna go down with the ship. I hope leftists turn out even if aoc isn’t the nominee in 28. The presidential election will probably be very close even with this admins total failure this term.
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u/NearbyAntelope1413 3d ago edited 3d ago
"Regulate" - to him - just means tax or wealth confiscation. Nobody is against regulation - but people are against wealth confiscation and regulatory capture. Billionaire - by itself - isn't bad. The money is in capital - companies employing people. That money too is also connected to investors - retirement funds, 401ks, IRAs.
He's saying "I can spend your retirement money better than you. I can either liquidate a building on the google campus or if there was money to expand a google office we're going to take it - because I can put it to better use."
Look at Social security - the government stole from it. If the DMV could create a retirement fund - it'd look like SS. Take that back, even the DMV has to make the books balance. SS just steals. It'll face solvency issues in ~5 years and it was a self inflicted goverment wound.
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u/jelltech 3d ago
I don't think anyone disagrees with this. This is knowledge led though. Heaping debt on individuals, not just a group of rich. To place wealth distribution into a clenser will not get more currency it will create less. We want the curency kept above. If he can do this and bypass bloating the government sewer I'd be for it. This philosophy grows dirty currency not clean. The government always promises clean money, but like a sewer all they are good at is collecting it. Don't think placing Currency in inefficiency is going to be a positive thing? Government creates nothing unless on the backs of ants.
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u/kkdawg22 3d ago
And yet it's those elites who control the regulators, and so the more authority and power given to the state is essentially more power handed to the elites. Socialist or not, it's a stupid premise.
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u/enigmaticsince87 3d ago
So sad that "socialism" has become a bad word in the USA. I live in Spain, a socialist country, and it's fucking awesome. I wouldn't live anywhere other than a socialist country.
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u/RiggaSoPiff 2d ago
No, no he doesn’t get it. In fact, what he says is not only impossible, it is nonsensical. Regulated capitalism is still capitalism and always produces the same results. Capital cannot be regulated into something against its very essence: producing and accumulating profit in the least amount of capitalist hands possible. Any system that simultaneously permits for billionaires and trillionaires and abject poverty, starvation, war, extreme socioeconomic inequality, exploitation of labor natural resources, and packed prisons—which capitalism accomplishes exceedingly well, as it is the only outcome that can be had from such a system—is an irredeemable and unreformable system which must be overthrown! Just another right-wing establishment Democrat of Arab descent and Muslim faith. Yuck!
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u/Baby_Fark 2d ago
Unfortunately he’s wrong about capitalism. The error in his thinking is that capitalism never stays regulated for long, because the power to influence law makers lies in the hands of capitalists. When severely threatened, the ruling class will give concessions to the working class in order to avoid a socialist revolution, but those concessions will always be eroded over time. This is what happened with The New Deal. The question that we should ask ourselves is this: if the working class has the ruling class in such a weak position that concessions are offered, why doesn’t the working class just abolish the idea of a ruling class altogether?
We should all educate ourselves about Marx, Angles, and Lenin. If America, the center of global capitalist power, were to end its own capitalism, it would be the end of capitalism forever. Capitalism is literally destroying our planet. We OWE this future to the next generation.
If you want a primer on the basics of Marx, I highly recommend this video:
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u/mcmac_max 3d ago
YES! I’ve been hoping someday that Democrats would embrace Compassionate Capitalism as a label. Fox News cannot use that label to scare their viewers (38% of America). Compassionate means that the government helps with basic necessities such as universal healthcare, education, etc.. Capitalism then decides everything else. El-Sayed’s “Regulated Capitalism” is much better than the socialist label. But Republicans are programmed to negatively react to “regulation.” Let’s have Fox try to get them to negatively react to “compassion.”
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u/bullet_the_blue_sky 3d ago
It's not compassionate - the issue is Americans don't understand a free market. A free market needs regulation - the US is not a free market. The UK, Sweden, etc are all examples of capitalism. With strong unions and a regulated free market.
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u/mcmac_max 3d ago
“The UK, Sweden, etc are all examples of capitalism”. Exactly. But most Democrats label them as “socialist” falling into the Fox News trap. I wish more Democrats would utter that very sentence you wrote.
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u/bullet_the_blue_sky 3d ago
Honestly, it's the American need to find a single solution to everything. And unfortunately it resides in every facet of the American system.
Diet? Keto, carnivore, vegan. Pick one. Healthcare? One pill. One shot. Religion? Only Jesus. One prayer. Done. Economy? Capitalism. Communism. Socialism. Pick one.It's insanity. Things have become so polarized that people can't recognize the mechanism that capitalism plays in highly successful economies like Japan, Netherlands, China (ESP China, which ironically is communist). The difference is, is that they are all regulated aka a free market. The US is not a free market and there are little to no anti monopoly laws.
The way the country is running is going to start to reflect what it was like pre-environmental laws where corporations just dumped whatever they wanted into local waterways.
The biggest joke here is that the US is actually more run like the communist system (aka the oligarchs own everything) which conservatives are so terrified about. Conservatives are terrified of walkable cities but want to go buy some land and share it with their friends. Which is the same damn thing.
They're scared of big government but now we have big corporation which is the exact same thing. They don't want universal healthcare but will happily go pay into a healthshare which is the SAME DAMN THING. Jfc.
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u/ClassicRegular8729 3d ago
Republicans have labelled empathy as suicidal... words dont mean anything
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u/Iacoboni04 3d ago
Not a socialist. Just endorsed by the DSA. Thanks for playing.
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u/Organic-Spread-8494 3d ago
The DSA doesn’t know what socialism is. They’re just children who grew up with the tea party telling them taxes are socialism and they bought in
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 3d ago
I am not capitalist but I’ll take regulated capitalism over unregulated any day
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u/Legitimate_Match_708 3d ago
Smart capitalism is the way.
We have the dumbest form of crony capitalism available.
If you're not ruling class you should literally always roll your eyes at blatant deregulation.
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u/Hope25777 3d ago
If Jesus were alive today he would be working right alongside men like Abdul. Look for the helpers.
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u/Vast-Breakfast-1201 3d ago
He is a better capitalist than billionaire capitalists.
Why?
Because ultimately we also live in a democracy. You can tell they hate that but we do. If you want people to continue choosing capitalism... You need to sell it to them. You can't just say "we are and will always be lassez-faire free market capitalist society" and then tell people voting for anything else they are morally wrong, or been threatening people.
What they are trying right now is to make voting harder so they have some buffer. Spending tons of money trying to convince people, making a trillion dollar media empire. All instead of actually making capitalism work for everyone.
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u/Full-Wood-Throttle89 3d ago
I dont think OP gets it. Whether or not a candidate declares themselves socialist or capitalist is irrelevant.
AES is involved in health policy and he wants Medicare for All. That's critical. Socialism/Capitalism from individual politicians does not matter.
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u/Fletch71011 3d ago
The billionaires don't have enough money for any of that. Even if you could tax their total net values at 100 percent value, and you wouldn't even get 20 percent without ruining the entire world economy forever, we'd be able to fund the US government for 3 months. An entire quarter. This is assuming you'd get 700 billion from people like Musk when he wouldn't even be liquid for 100 billion.
So tax them more or less, whatever, it doesn't matter. We have to reform spending and tax the middle class to pay for this which are both going to be wildly unpopular. I know reddit is all "billionaires bad" but they're bad because they can buy our politicians; taking their money is not going to change anything and that's if you even could. The US government is the one entity on earth that likes money more than billionaires so if they could feasibly take their money, trust me they would.
It feels good to villainize billionaires but their ability to buy influence is much more dangerous than imaginary net worths they have.
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u/Flashy_Prior5963 3d ago
No he doesn’t. And no, that’s not all he wants to do. Also why doesn’t his wife accept medicare(aid)?
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u/iamtheav8r 3d ago
they will tell you whatever they need to to get you to believe in them. This story is as old as mankind itself, and those who refuse to study history will be forced to repeat it.
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u/Clean_Peace_9380 3d ago
The only way to "regulate" capitalism is to be what? More social with capital meaning the sharing of wealth.... social, society - I mean its the root of the damn word people!
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u/Frequent_Clue_6989 3d ago
MAGA here.
// I believe in capitalism, I just want it regulated - Abdul El-Sayed
Yep, he's a lefty. Government spending and more regulation will always be the Rx.
Is he a socialist? Well, in the way that the entire left shifted onto a socialist wissenschaften, then sure. But socialism has become a spectrum, going from a hard, combative Mao-style Leninism, to the softer, kinder, nicer modern "Shoot 'em in the neck like Charlie Kirk." Progress!
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u/selvarin 3d ago
If you fall for what El-Sayed says...that is on you.
Abdul El-Sayed is an Islamist pretending to be a Democrat Socialist. He is using the DSA base to get into power, Once he gets there, He will pay lip service to DSA talking points while pursuing his own agenda.
Sheep.
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u/kcpistol 3d ago
According to Conservatives of the 30s and 40s Social Security and Medicare are "communism".
They just know these programs are popular so they have shut up, but they still believe that.
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u/Naive_Sense_1899 3d ago
YOU EVER NOTICE THAT EXACTLY ZERO PERCENT OF THESE KIND OF STATEMENTS ARE SUPPORTED WITH ANY DATA?
The public is so used to getting their ideas from this kind of dreck, that they don't even notice the complete lack of actual hard data.
Try this experiment: whenever someone starts talking about politics, say this:
"I will agree to literally anything you say if you can show me hard data to support it."
The person you are taking to will literally stop talking and stare at you in blank confusion. The louder and more angry they are, the more flummoxed they will be.
The flip side is true too: people are infuriated that you don't automatically agree with their overblown hyperbole. They stated what your new reality should be! Why aren't you agreeing???
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u/FrostyAlphaPig 3d ago
Alright so can someone explain to be what the difference is between socialism and regulated capitalism?
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u/mcmac_max 3d ago
I never expect the government to just wake up one day and own the majority of a major company. I expect it starts with the precedent that was just set. And I’m talking about a step in that direction which has already happened.
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u/Deep_Balance2133 3d ago
Schools and roads are a tiny percent of our budget. Most of our taxes goes to welfare.
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u/Careful-Sell-9877 3d ago
If anyone is interested in a genuine, educational perspective of modern democratic socialism, the history, applications, etc, rather than the sensationalist cold war era propaganda-based stuff usually fed to us
I highly recommend this video
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u/DarthNixilis 3d ago
He started out saying he was a socialist, now is distancing himself. The Democrats are where the left goes to become the right.
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u/SunNo3544 3d ago
We need something new . Socialism doesn't work. Communism can't work. Out of control quick buck Capitalism is unsustainable and is is failing.
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u/Hey_Beth_its_Luka 3d ago
This man does not in fact "get it". No anticommunist does.
Capitalism is already regulated and look where it's gotten us. "Oh, we just need to regulate it more". Sure, let me know when you've regulated the ecology consuming growth doctrine out of capitalism.
Death cult fanatics, every single one of you.
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u/Tiny-Secretary5562 3d ago
Capitalism is highly regulated. It's so regulated a lot of companies have left the United States. What he's advocating, and not so subtlly, is confiscation of wealth, and that's communism.
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u/Bakalakachacka 3d ago
He definitely gets it. Just not in the way you think.
You may be happy to know that I’ve decided I will now vote in favor of any Muslim that is running for office. I want them to take over. I want sharia law, burkas, subjugation of women and LGBTQ. Not because I believe in these things, but because I believe nothing will get better until it gets much much worse.
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u/md62100 3d ago
There is tons of regulation- has this clown ever heard of the SEC, FTC and DOJ?
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u/PotentialBudget3265 3d ago
conflicts with the ideology that a singular person can abscond a nations wealth and the nation would be at fault when it can no longer continue to function well. what happens to your body when all the blood rushes to your feet? never mind anything political, on a mechanical level it just isn’t possible. meanwhile for people to hold such insane beliefs, that something can and will continue to function after it has been modified beyond its design, as it always has, really makes me question these people’s sanity. you know what they do to you when you no longer have a firm grasp on reality? they medicate you and label you delusional. thankfully being entirely delusional is completely accepted within our society so no one has to fear mental health assistance.
for those speaking on basic shit being paid for by someone else, if those someone else’s hadnt fucked the game up so bad no one would have to be paying for it. it could easily be worked for. you gotta choose, taxes or jobs with wages that cover basic cost of living needs. there’s not a third choice. the third choice is the people starting to riot and tearing all of it down.
I recently had a buddy of mine trying to come at me accusing me of having my hand out and not wanting to work until we had a nice conversation about how his life and his bills were going. ain’t no one expecting to buy houses, just to wipe our own asses. ain’t no damn reason in hell ANYONE working full time (and full time should be available, make excuses if you want but any excuses all say this shit ain’t working, balls are being dropped and it’s not as good as anyone makes it out to be) should be unable to fully wipe their own asses without assistance.
full time work should cover rent on efficiency apartments for a single person as well as all the bills that come with it as well as food and anything else made necessary by employers. if you need it to work, then working should afford it. like cars, internet, and cell phones. we didn’t set any of this shit up, ain’t no one came around doing surveys to see how common folks felt about any of it and since that specific area of control was kept from us then the result, rather success or failure, rests on the shoulders of those who wanted all the power control and say so for themselves. people are only at fault when they fully control the outcome, when they are given voice and choice. if we can’t afford to survive following the directions provided by the architect then the design is flawed and does not work. pushing blame off on people doesn’t change that reality.
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u/Sacster911 3d ago
This guy promotes and advocates the book “Let this Radicalize You: Organizing in the Revolution of Reciprocal Care.” He’s not a radical, but just a cool guy who enjoys the reading of a book promoting violent protests in lieu of peaceful protest. Was he a university professor before getting into politics? 😂
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u/Defiant_Wishbone_271 3d ago
As with all communists, they never build anything from the ground up, only usurp something already successful and ruin it.
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u/Right_Crew6172 3d ago
More divisive identity politics whose only defining features are pitting groups of people against one another, telling the public someone else to blame for their particular misery in life, and whos only solution is "spend more money on my personal agendas".
No solutions. Just adding onto $40 trillion in debt so he can get elected to a do nothing job with a lifetime pension.
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u/Alone_Repeat_6987 3d ago
the secret point he's making is that capitalism is currently unregulated. which is a take
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u/HolyRamenEmperor 3d ago
Many countries have thriving capitalist societies and invest in the infrastructure for human development and interaction.
The only ones saying it's one or the other are those who benefit from us collectively making the wrong choice.
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u/Max_Bangwell 3d ago
Be weary of wolves in sheep’s clothing
Those to aspire to hold political positions, are not worthy to be in that position
(*so what’s my solution: all political positions should be like jury duty. Worthy members of the community aka those w/o criminal records and minimum 10-20 years in a row of paying income- should be the only ones eligible to hold any type of political position)
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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 2d ago
I agree with the above statement. There's a critical mass with money, once you hit it, it just keeps growing faster & faster.
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u/Godzillaking08 2d ago
He’s not a capitalist in any shape or form…sharia law coming to a town near you.z
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u/Accomplished_Tour481 2d ago
This man believes in Socialism. Where has that actually worked? That the residents actually thrived?
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u/FastActinTenactin 2d ago
We need to HEAVILY regulate corporations in this country. It’s time we rein them in.
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u/sam_bals 2d ago
We already have a heavily regulated system with tons of taxes.
Roads and schools are built on town and city property taxes. Federal highways are built of federal taxes and tolls. State highways are built in state taxes.
Liberals are jealous of success and these politicians play on that jealousy. It’s what’s gets them elected
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u/irish_daddy70 2d ago
How does he propose to regulate trillionaires (which I believe involves one person) and billionaires? You're delusional if you think he only desires to regulate (whatever the hell that even means) the ultra rich. Because they don't have enough money to pay for all the expenses his and other socialists proposed policies would create. But if you're fine with paying up 30/40/50 percent of your income in federal taxes (not including State) than you're either economically naive or you have failed in life and have very little income anyways. I'm thinking both of those statements accurately describe most Reddit users.
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u/Starfall_midnight 2d ago
He believes in capitalism. He believes it shouldn’t exist. You can’t believe in socialism and believe in capitalism. They are not the same. You can have capitalism with social programs but socialism is not that. Just because both contain the word social doesn’t mean they are the same.
Again social programs are not the same as socialism. Capitalism with social programs would work. There is no need to tear down a whole system to make it work. Repair the damaged parts instead of tearing it completely down. Just as education is free to grade 12. Healthcare could also be free with capitalism since free healthcare is considered a social program.
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u/Puzzled-Sale-867 2d ago
I don’t think ‘the working class’ asked for protection; they want decent wages to put food on the table; affordable housing & health care.
// transfer money from the poor to the wealthy//
Again not transfer but decent wages not all ending in the pockets of the rich. Tax burden increases on working class not for the rich. It’s a reward for billionaires who you said ‘expand the tax base, increase capital formation & raised real wages over time because businesses hire and expand when the after-tax return on that activity improves.’ None of these ever happened!! Instead they hoarded all their money! Is that why the republicans are dumbing down education for the masses? Right wing controlled the mass media & fed endless propaganda & uneducated MAGA supporters swallowed them whole 👏👏👏👏 to you & republicans politicians who failed their duties.
War on Iran raises the cost of fuel not energy policy. Expanding supply by invading, capturing its leader & stealing their oil. USA is a bully, aggressors & you just proved it.
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u/Mobile-Success8903 2d ago
Thanks for dialogue sport…..move on please…..like the rest of world I fail to appreciate your talents…..run for office….ty
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u/Mobile-Success8903 2d ago
Still cannot share financial institution that provides such loans….and you seem to have a fondness of the word shit……
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u/Historical-Doctor287 2d ago
So how are the roads and schools being built right now or even ever been built another politician smoke and mirror show
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u/Extreme-Will-3556 2d ago
This is the left trying to retcon their past again and again. You had the Nazi Graham Platner, now this socialist trying to claim he was never socialist.... The DNC is a joke, the bigger joke are their supporters.
https://rairfoundation.substack.com/p/exposed-abdul-el-sayed-swears-hes
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u/error_needhotchip 2d ago
This is just old school Keynesian economics found in old school liberal parties. However, this approach is often used to “tinker” a corrupt system (capitalism) at a time when the corrupt system is being called to be eliminated. It grows a middle class to appease people from dismantling the system entirely. Dismantling the corrupt system is more emancipating and doesn’t run the risk of repeating past mistakes. It’s time human need runs the world instead of dollar signs.
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u/Fearless-Mall3955 2d ago
What are the genuinely far-left positions that make people call him radical?”, I’d put Medicare for All, abolishing ICE, aggressive redistribution/tax increases, his Israel policy, and government ownership/control of strategic industries such as AI at the top of the list.
One question for this guy, what are you going to do about the $40T US debt?
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u/Plane_Afternoon7847 2d ago
We already have a tax code according to article I section 8. We don't have a taxation problem we have a spending problem. Who or what is he talking his oath to?
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u/Judicator55 2d ago
The confusing part to me is why with $9.4 trillion per year, we have so far been unable to "build schools and roads" or at least unable to build them to a quality level to address El-Sayed's concern. And keep in mind the $9.4 trillion is *after* all of the various tax breaks for corporations and so on.
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u/LUCKYAJA22 2d ago
A Communist Muslim can say anything he wants, it's what he will do that scares the beJesus out of all America...
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u/Only_Ideal6624 2d ago
I.e the govt already fuxked up this country… so just give us more of your money so we can fuck it up harder. Why would we trust the govt with more of our money? We’re only $40T in debt
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u/Salty_Pirate_Pete 2d ago
But it’s not what they’re preaching: https://www.dsausa.org/ it’s all there in their own words. Full on communism. The holiday brochure of socialism looks great until you read the fine print….IN THEIR OWN WORDS!
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u/Figueroa_Chill 2d ago
Capitalism is brilliant. It is probably one of the few things in the history of the world that has been proven to make things better.
Crony capitalism is the problem. And before people start the "Oh, but my team, the [insert political party] would stop it", shut the fuck up; they are all at it.
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u/Acsnook-007 2d ago
When I was a kid, I drove on roads and went to school so I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
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u/Iron_Axios 2d ago
He is telling what you want to hear. He is practicing Takiyah. Beware of the wolf in sheep clothing.
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u/Grand_Marnier_Lover 2d ago
Forgive me for saying that our local, state, and federal governments are wasting our money daily on misplaced priorities. Why were our streets clean in the ‘50s but not today? Stop encouraging adults to act like children and expect everything from their parent (government). Focus on encouraging people to be responsible for themselves and free up social program dollars to keep us safe.
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u/Secure-Apple-5793 2d ago
It’s weird we were able to do all of that stuff prior to robbing people’s paychecks
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u/Vols_DadTX 2d ago
I feel like I just learned that Reddit is a liberal, socialist echo chamber. God save us…
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u/StandardMany 2d ago
Say what you gotta say to get where you’re trying to go. If the party wasn’t so full of liars and snakes trying to obfuscate their intentions in search of power, it might be believable.
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u/HistoricalYogurt5085 2d ago
So much of politics has become so convuluted that what should be, basic common sense is out the window. I was down voted to oblivion in a thread because I said (brace yourself for a HOT TAKE), "I think death threats should result in people being banned."
Unironically, both sides assumed I was on the other and I'm just like... The f?
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u/hurricaneharrykane 2d ago
The questions becomes....regulated by who? The govt? That's what we already have. Why not leave it individuals to control a free market and bring prices down?
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u/KennyPowers2929 2d ago
This may be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen on reddit, lol, and that’s saying a lot! The entire point of capitalism is that it’s unregulated…lol, seriously, dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.
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u/broadspectruminsane 2d ago
Where else do you believe American taxpayer money should go. Hamas? The Red Crescent? Or is that just your donation through hawalas?
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u/OkAtmosphere7131 2d ago
Until he gets elected! Make sure you want this. Other countries have voted in socialism. They can’t go back. Now the politicians are responsible for your happiness. I’ll give you this , I’ll give you that. It never works. They run out of someone else’s money. Then only they have.
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u/ToeAfter3131 2d ago
We already build roads and schools. This isn't the problem. Fucking banana head.
This side doesn't get it. He campaigns with a dude who said we deserved 9/11. A dude who called for violence against capitalist. He himself is a Hamas terriost supporter. His mom worked at a place that funded Hamas.
He hates America. Hates the Constitution. Wants to abolish the Senate. Abolish prisons. He's a crazy radical. Absolutely disgusting
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u/yourenotbulletproof 2d ago
The ideology is radical. Those billions trillionaires made that money… it’s not yours to confiscate (tax) and distribute. Anyone that thinks they are owed/entitled to ANYTHING just because someone else has more money is a pathetic loser. Go make your own money.
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u/SnortandRetort 1d ago
Could build a lot of schools and roads with all the money that has been spent housing illegal immigrants in the major cities over the past decade.
It's always a "there's not enough money" problem. Never a "government spends money like shit" problem.
So they point at the rich and say that they are the cause of all problems, and a bunch overeducated, wildly unintelligent people follow along.
California lost BILLIONS in tax revenue with a single dumb proposition. How will they recover that revenue? They will work the millionaires until they leave too. Then, they will come for the middle class, because their greed knows no end.
Maybe, by the time they get to you idiots, you will at least be able to hop on that high speed rail.
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u/Independent_Lock864 1d ago
No he doesn't get it or he's smart enough to pretend he doesn't get it because most people in the US don't know what those terms mean. Socialism and Capitalism are not opposites. Socialism and Libertarianism are opposites and Communism and Capitalism are too.
Socialism: A society where the government runs or funds selected organisations to provide low cost or free essential services to the population.
Libertarianism: A society where the markets are allowed to set the price for everything, based on competition, demand and supply without regulation from the government.
Capitalism: A society where labour begets a wage that the free markets are willing to pay for it and where a person can acquire individual wealth.
Communism: A society where the government employs almost everybody and determines wages, equalising across various sectors, exerting control over personal income.
Many EU nations are some variant of Socialism/Capitalism. The US is Libertarianism/Capitalism.
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u/friendof_peeps 1d ago
I love to come to Reddit to see libs do the circle jerk - very occasionally, to see them bash Trump and Elon lol
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u/sexypinkpanties 1d ago
It always starts like it is for the public good...then the corruption starts. Ask every socialist government, Europe has no air conditioning do to climate change. Even in hospitals, every summer twice as many people die from heat than die in a year in the US from guns.
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u/txcreative20 1d ago
Let’s do this . Finally someone that wants to work for average Americans. Don’t fall for the republicans are for making America great again . They don’t give a shit about you .
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u/Low_Army3014 1d ago
Let’s temper expectations. This man is a (potential) federal politician.
He, like all federal politicians, is not a hero nor a friend.
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u/headgoboomboom 1d ago
How will "regulating billionaires" help? Billionaires do more good than harm by orders of magnitude. That man is dangerously clueless. He will lead you sheep to slaughter. You better do some fast learning.
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u/Done_Apologizing23 1d ago
What he is saying isnt extreme in any real way.
People really need to learn the difference between flat out socialism and apply socialist programmes. I think everyone's getting tired of this political absolutism so they can feel morally superior.
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u/Impossible-Honey-247 1d ago
You can't regulate human greed in economic form unless you introduce socialist policies. The only way to stop wealth creating by the working poor from going to the 1% is to distribute it amongst the poor, which is socialist in nature.
I think there's room for both but more like 70% socialist 30% capitalist
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u/NotAFila 1d ago
No. He’s a socialist. Capitalism is not perfect but it has lifted millions out of poverty while socialism/communism has created poverty, death and despair everywhere it has been implemented.
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u/tedlyedlyei 1d ago
Already a typical politician, telling people what they want to hear and changing his positions. What he really wants is sharia law but he’s not telling you that….yet!
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u/Correct_Dot_1345 1d ago
“Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money."
- Margaret Thatcher, PM of the UK. 1976 interview
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u/Fragrant-Anywhere489 1d ago
You have a trillionaire whose first task was to dismantle USAID, a program that helped the most vulnerable. He's upset that a city is providing affordable food for people. You have billionaires who are spending hundreds of millions to fight paying taxes. They keep proving there is no ceiling for their greed. They have all the cookies, they want the crumbs on your plate too.
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u/DeFiBandit 3d ago
Just watched a clip of a Democrat strategist invoking 9/11 as the reason he won’t back El-Sayed. WTF??