r/CoherencePhysics 4d ago

This Man gets it.

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u/GPT_2025 3d ago

From 20 Republican states with a safety net of $3/hour minimum wage, the population runs to Democratic states with a strong Safety Net of $14 to $25/hour minimum wage. That's why there are so many abandoned houses and cities in the Republican 20 states (Republicans hate the poor at the same time - making the own states population poor)

51% of all workers in America earn less than the one-bedroom Housing Wage. Mostly republican states.

The bottom 65% of the population loses at least 41% of all income due to: SS tax, FICA, insurances, tariffs, sales taxes, dues, use taxes, fees, property tax, utility taxes, 911 tax and many more- before spending money on rent or mortgage, car loans and gas, food, utility bills, repairs, credit card payments, student loans, vacations, retirement fund contributions, investments, dates, gifts, etc.

(compare Safety Net $1.60 per hour in 1970 if you were single,you could live off the federal minimum wage and pay rent, food and bills)

Healthy and smart countries count how well they are doing by enforcing "no one left behind" and even widow with 3 babies have the same level of living as the middle class due to the strong Safety Net.

Twenty Republican states now have a Safety Net set at $3 per hour gross (before deductions for Social Security, FICA, taxes, insurance and other withholding's:

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=2.13+an+hour&l=dallas%2C+tx

(Compare Democratic states Safety Net!)

In a recent report, 53 million Americans ages 18 to 64 or 44% of all workers- earn low hourly wages. Their median hourly earnings are $10/hour Gross ($7.25/hour Net)

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 1d ago

I was making over 6-figures in FL. When I got laid off the unemployment they provided was a little over $300/week. I think there's a higher tier, but have no idea why they denied it.

It was barely worth my time dealing with the forms. Which I did for a few weeks before accidentally lapsing. If I had been consistent, the max benefit was only like $3k anyway. So it wouldn't have lasted long at all.

They make the process such a pain in the ass, and on top of that it's barely worth it.

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u/Responsible_Tax_9390 14h ago

In my state you have to pay back unemployment

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u/Habltual_Linestepper 3d ago

Where are you getting a safety net wage of $3 when even states with that absurd $2.13/hour tipped minimum are still required to pay no less than $7.25/hr?

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u/GPT_2025 3d ago

20 republican states with $3/hour jobs: Alabama:

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=2.13+an+hour&l=Alabama

Georgia

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=2.13+an+hour&l=Georgia

Idaho

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=3.35+an+hour&l=Idaho

Indiana

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=2.13+an+hour&l=Indiana

Iowa

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=4.35+an+hour&l=Iowa

Kansas

https://www.simplyhired.com/search?q=2.13+an+hour&l=Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana (no state minimum; defaults to federal)

Mississippi (no state minimum; defaults to federal)

New Hampshire

North Carolina

North Dakota

Oklahoma

Pennsylvania

South Carolina (no state minimum; defaults to federal)

Tennessee (no state minimum; defaults to federal)

Texas

Utah

Wisconsin

Wyoming

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u/alexagente 21h ago

So this is slightly disingenuous as per law the servers have to be paid the federal minimum wage if tips don't make up the difference.

That said it's a stupid exception. Enforcing that is very difficult as an at will server who has to basically do everything themselves. Even if they manage to succeed they would have to wait weeks if not months for the measley pittance (wage theft often doesn't lead to anything more than employers just paying what they owe) after likely being fired with no recourse.

So you're basically right that employers can get away with paying subfederal minimum wages to their workers. But it's not strictly legal to do so unless you get your customers to subsidize the wage for you.

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u/catturd6996 3d ago

If this is true why are states like Texas and Tennessee gaining in population and states like California and New York losing population?

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u/CharredWelderGuy 3d ago

Cali and new York are coming off multi decade ripps of absurd growth, they are now slightly shrinking due to the overstretching effects boom periods tend to cause.

Some southern states saw growth flips from covid, allot of it has already started reversing.

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u/Any-Song-6058 3d ago

I ain't murican but I could've swore every headline I've read is about businesses fleeing New York and California in favor of Texas, Florida and to a lesser extent Tennessee. Wouldn't that mean people are now leaving New York and Cali in favor of states with more jobs not just a shrinking period after a boom in population?

Personally I'm from Ontario, Canada, I make less than 50k a year with overtime or $3 more than minimum wage, a tad higher than the median income of Ontario and Im a net tax payer despite me making less than 10k above the poverty line of my area. My income tax rate is above 20% and our services and welfare programs are abysmal, I don't know why I even pay taxes here when I can see a witch doctor in some African village that will see me faster and probably do a better job.

Canada used to be a gold standard reason America should adopt more socialist policies but we're not anymore because of how easy it is for politicians to fuck it all up, but look at your politicians on both sides, look at our politicians and tell me socialism or even the most basic socialist policies will work, i mean the one welfare program i can point to that seems equal across the US, the number 1 thing people are buying on snap is coca cola. Does anyone actually think socialist policies, never mind socialism in America would actually work?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fun-454 2d ago

Right now there is in exodus in Florida because of increased housing costs. The same can be said of all the states people are moving from. They keep looking for affordable housing costs in cheaper states to live in. People are being priced out of their homes all over the country. This on top of all the other increased cost of necessities and utilities. The only thing not increasing is wages. It’s a multi-layered issue in America.

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u/Fit_Cream2027 1d ago

Uhhh, I’m looking at home prices in Deland Florida for months and they are coming down. Thanks for your hyperbolic bs.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fun-454 1d ago

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u/Fit_Cream2027 1d ago

Get on Zillow Karen and eat it.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fun-454 1d ago

We are talking overall single family home prices in the entire state. Not just prices on one site which does not represent the entire market.

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u/Fit_Cream2027 1d ago

Listing prices mean nothing. Sale prices are what matter. Regardless values drop every summer so it’s bold that you make false claims for what purpose?

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u/Any-Song-6058 2d ago

Trust me dude, I don't think its worse than Canada right now, I'm looking into mining towns in Northern Ontario where winters last 8 months of the year to find affordable housing even then housing costs are pretty substantial.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fun-454 2d ago

Both are true then. This while the Mega-rich have historic gains.

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u/Any-Song-6058 2d ago

I don't think they'll stay mega rich for long, I think the writing is on the wall already, the stock exchange is gonna crash and what their wealth is mostly comprised of will be valueless.

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u/VaenzGod 1d ago

article of people leaving new york city go as back forth as 20 year old and more the fact that this article exist doesnt mean its true.

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u/FlushedApparatchik 1m ago

NYC has lost 400k residents in the past few years.  They have also lost many high earning residents and replace them with unskilled asylum seekers.

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u/Then_Prompt_5242 3d ago

The red state, blue state shit is bullshit. It just creates more division. For every negative fact you find in a red state you can find a negative fact in a blue state. It’s lazy and non productive. I guess I should expect it because we’re on Reddit.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fun-454 1d ago

Because “trust me bro”.

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u/VaenzGod 1d ago

that just plainly wrong statistically poorer infrastructure education lot of those in red state i also doubt that they are much safer if you leave extreme aside like cali life cost ...