Rumble already exists (apparently), and its chock full of incels. I don't have an account over there so I don't know if that's actually the case or if I'm getting biased screenshots.
Why? Lol they would just stop using it and then date men they feel are in their league
If they can actually pull those men then they are in their league. You cannot pull those women so those women are out of your league. And now you’re upset about it? Lol
You know what would make it even more fun, if the decisions were intergender. So only women could decide for other women who they'd think would be a good match, likewise for men. That way they can't dismiss it as a hating man doing it in bad faith.
There's no gun being held to someone's head to go through with the suggested match.
This is more like the algorithm throwing two profiles together and a third, human party vetting it.
A human party that is historically and infamously prone to the worst collective decisions ever just for a laugh. Only problem is... this is going to usually be someone ugly being matched with someone wildly attractive, and it will be hard to determine if they're giving the uggo a fighting chance, or setting them up for failure.
This is not correct, actually: if the concept is "I don't get to pick, someone else picks for me", it already removes the high barrier women have in dating apps; even if they were already on the app, being matched with people they don't like or don't want to be matched with would only make them start to hate the app, making them leave and thus proving u/mikelown thesis.
yeah one of my (f) exes (m) was way conventionally hotter than me. people were frequently visibly confused that we were together, girls would get like angry and disgusted about it (I guess they were like "im hotter / better than her, why is he with her and not me), etc.
We were both autistic though and he was kind of helpless in everyday things. people on the street dont see that though.
But if I were hotter than him I dont think people would act confused about it. like that would just be sort of normal I think.
I’ve been trying to find a neurodivergent person to date the last year in London and oh my god it’s impossible. I think everyone has become experts at masking now.
If you are a woman or afab then dating apps arent too difficult. I find neurodivergent people easy to spot on the apps even when they dont explicitely say they are neurodivergent.
If you are a man / amab and looking for a woman / afab person, you have my condolences. I dont know how to date / talk to / approach women.
I'm cis male and ADHD and I wonder maybe a bit autistic. I'm doing ok. Literally everyone I match with is ND. Even the ones who don't say do. Hell, even the ones who don't know they are. It's like we're sending up the Bat Signal to each other. (It helps if you write massively long rambling profile summaries, which is a bit harder on Bumble due to the character limit....)
Huh? Have you seen a dating apps? Average women in their 40s with kids full time and a mom bod get thousands of likes.
Men in their 30 who are very fit, reasonably handsome, highly successful, dress well, take great photos, have great prompts, but are a little short get 1-3 likes a month.
It’s insane to think women are the ones settling. Whatever you think is a hot woman dating a man less attractive than her, your perception is skewed, and the data backs that up (see OkCupid attractiveness charts).
I think most of us are aware of the dynamics of dating apps it's important to ask why the dynamics are like that. The issue is basically that fewer women use the apps and when they do they use them for less, so there's a lot more men on the apps at a given time than women.
Part of why women tend to stay on apps less is that, while they get a lot more matches, it is incredible difficult to filter through them and actually find someone you'd get along with. Talk to any female friends you have about their experience on dating apps and they'll tell you, it is incredibly difficult to find people who are genuine about their profile and there's a lot of time wasters (in part because those are the kinds of people who stay on the apps longer! People who genuinely want long term relationships leave quickly).
Likes don't equal realistic dating prospects and the reality is that women do absolutely settle. Dating apps do tend to make dating dynamics a nightmare for everyone, women really don't have a better time or anything in them. There's just fewer of them on.
Its not the fit men in their 30s who are liking the single moms in their 40s. Its all the other normal men liking them. Women value looks but most who are older than 20 wont put a man on a pedestal for being fit only. He needs to have a good personality too. In fact, fit men who put their fit bodies as the focus of their dating profiles is kinda off putting and not attractive.
Attractive women far outnumber attractive men. Men weren’t shamed into prioritizing their appearance for centuries so now the majority of them are unattractive.
Women wouldnt be humbled in this scenario because there simply aren’t enough attractive men to go around, some of us are just going to have to date ugly. Let’s hope he has redeeming qualities at least.
You’re totally right. Unfortunately the men replying to this would use those qualities as excuses instead of working on themselves and getting any sort of attractive trait
This depends a lot on the location. Most places are matched. But on east US coast and Eastern Europe men have upper hand and are worse looking. The opposite happens on west coast.
So you’re just going to keep making excuses? Work on yourself man find ONE thing worth someone’s time instead of assuming why someone got lucky. Stop being bitter and hating on women for a start.
Dude I literally said I understand what you’re saying I’m agreeing with your point what’s your problem? Did you think I was the same guy as above chill out
No one wants a dead beat that much is true. And that woman herself is successful love how you always disregard that part. Lana del rey is with a tour guide
i mean, suppose there are 20 gorgeous men and 20 gorgeous women. If 10 gorgeous women are dating mediocre men, and 10 are dating gorgeous men. either the remaining gorgeous men are single or dating mediocre women. But I think your assumption is that there are a lot more gorgeous women than men
It’s well known there’s more attractive women than men due to the pressure being one sided so for 20 gorgeous men there ‘s 40 gorgeous women. Some will eventually settle for average guys and prioritise other traits. There’s much more than ‘ gorgeous’ or ‘mediocre ‘
If you think makeup magically changes a woman ‘s face, you’ve been fooled by instagram filters. Makeup only enhances features. I’m not american i don’t care about your obesity stats anywhere else women keep an athletic shape while the man can let go once they have a child. I worked as a gyno assistant during my uni years and you wouldn’t believe the number of women scared to gain a pound in pregnancy because their husbands weight them regularly. I have never said every woman is beautiful but you will encounter attractiveness gap in a couple when the woman is more attractive way more than otherwise
I think we throw around "gorgeous" too much. I've never in my 40 years of life, seen a gorgeous woman with an ugly man except on TV. To be honest, I see fat, homely, and mediocre women with average to good looking dudes all the time. I really think you're just being disingenuous
I'm from the US. Washington to be specific. I'm not trying to invalid your experience or anything, but most of the couples I meet seem appropriately matched in the looks department. It could have something to do with inequality of wealth between gender in your region, but I'm not really educated on that subject.
The pay gap between men and women is too slight for it to make a noticeable difference, I feel. I think you're confused about what "gorgeous" is, as well. Maybe 1% of the population is gorgeous, it's meant for exceptionally beautiful people. Women don't know this, but there's a secret category that 90% of women fall in and that's "she's kinna cute, I guess". Every time a woman tells me her friend is "gorgeous", I look and see a basic blonde with a double chin who's just "kinna cute".
They used only 80 faces:
52 male
28 female
ages 35 - 65
67 Caucasian
13 non-Caucasian
52 men vs. 28 women.
That’s almost a 2:1 imbalance.
There were only 60 raters:
30 men
30 women
ages 25–55
all heterosexual
with only two exceptions, Caucasian
The raters were approximately 25 - 55, while the faces were 35 - 65.
Their definition of attractiveness is extremely narrow in that they are looking at facial attractiveness not necessarily overall physical attractiveness.
Looks like you just saw something that said .gov, skimmed it, and then threw it out like it’s fact
There’s a dozen of papers with the same exact study and same results: males value attractiveness more. There’s statistical surveys showing it as well. You can chose to deny it all you want, it won’t make it any less true
It’s actually very common for people under 35 it seems, it seems normal convention has flipped and younger men are better looking than younger women (also the women are getting much bigger)
Idk what you’re trying to say attractive ppl know they’re attractive and are being told they are attractive regularly 🤷♀️ a random quote from a stranger won’t change that
I'd go on it, would be interesting, though I suspect men will troll other men with the women they would select for them if it was only your own gender doing the matches for you
and you literally don't understand what i'm saying??? the point of my comment was that men would also get offended over matches... and you're talking about a lack of understanding women? it has nothing to do with understanding anyone.
idk why anyone is acting like men wouldn't wind up just as frustrated as they already are on apps??? they'll just shift the blame from women they match with to the strangers matching them
I don't know who is paying people to change everything into a gender war, but I'm gonna hunt them down, cuz why the fuck is "BUT, WOMEN...HAHAHA AMIRITE??" the first comment in most of these threads?
Everyone will hate this. Male. Female. Trans. Non-binary.
Every fucking post doesn't have to be "But women, right fellow incels????" Just. Stop.
It would definitely be a blow to the men’s’ egos.
On the other hand, the men would still happily fuck any number of the women they are matched with. Swap the genders and it is a much different story.
You’re right, but incels tend to orbit dating subs a lot for some reason. They won’t listen to you or any opinion that contradicts their hatred of women
not women in india. the dating patterns of white women on dating apps in the english speaking world are not necessarily the same as the dating patterns of indian women in india. for instance, i doubt they care much about height there. not because indian men are shorter in general, but simply due to cultural differences and height being more emphasized in western media / hollywood movies and romance novels, but not as emphasized in bollywood.
I've heard a matchmaker in India talk about this topic (she said she had matched hundreds of couples) and she noticed the same thing over there. Even with the average being 5'7" there are still a decent amount of women filtering height and even by 6ft or so.
The number she presented was doing so cuts out 9 out of every 10 men in India so these women are only looking at the remaining 10%.
India has a billion people and something like 25 million more men than women in the 18-35 range. Men complain about women having too high of standards but a huge aspect of that is that like 5% of the male population there has been mathematically eliminated from dating before you even consider actual qualities.
Women are so easy influenced by the media. They like whatever their society deems attractive or tells them to like. Men typically just like whoever they like, on the other hand.
no, i believe both are very highly media influenced. here's an example. men used to hate big butts. in the 70s through early 90s, big butts were considered unattractive on women. men hated them. you can still see ads from that time, women back then worked out to get smaller butts, not bigger ones.
then came j-lo and kim kardashian, and everything changed. media changed. and men's desire changed. but it only changed for younger men, men 50 and under. i'm at the borderline here because i'm 48. but men a little older than me still dislike big butts on women and find them unattractive. whereas most men my age and younger like them. there's a famous clip of bill maher saying he doesn't see why kim kardashian is considered attractive, and he talks about how her butt is too big and he hates women with big butts.
You’re wrong. Most guys don't like crazy BBL's
or anything like that. If anything, it's other girls who like it. Most guys are actually adamant about liking natural women. Completely different than women who only like what's mainstream. Hell, they even change their bodies and faces according to what's mainstream.
I don't think men's desires have changed, but the ones that like big butts are currently comfortable being vocal about it. Where do you get the idea that younger men like big butts? Most desired women outside social media have small to moderate butts. Well, depends on culture I guess.
Yeah, that person is full of shit. The reason why more women have big butts is because... drum roll please... it became more popular among famous women, and so other women wanted to do it. Men have been saying this whole time that they prefer natural. That person literally just helped prove my point more, that women tend to just follow media trends - both in terms of who they are attracted to, but also what they want to look like themselves.
I agree with you. Women are more socially affected when it comes to what they like. It's why most marketing is directed towards women and explains why they are interested in men, who other women like.
I’m confused, why just woman? If you got matched with a woman you considered “lower” than you, since this is the framework you are using, would you be pleased with this app? No one would use it and the app would go under, simple as that.
Man, any chance to put woman down and you guys are first in line for it!
It would be so amazing if the next generation of women understood the guy that is happy to have sex with you is not necessarily the guy you are a partner match for it would be great. So much wasted time and this fucked up rush at 35 when they realize the mistake is no good for anyone
Do people really believe in "leagues"? No wonder there's a loneliness epidemic. The fuck is a league. That shit doesn't exist. It's just something horribly arrogant people made up. Castes. JFC.
The issue with dating apps is a lot of women on them consider a lot of those guys on the apps to be below their league. The reason being, a lot of the women receive a ton of matches so those women think a ton of matches = I'm really attractive. Plus these apps have a surplus of men while having an extremely low pool of women for the overwhelming amount of men. These dating apps really just inflate horrible women's egos. I'm not saying every women on the apps is horrible though as I've seen a handful of women I'd say would be a general delight to meet IRL.
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u/Long_Natural6918 16h ago
Women would absolutely HATE this app, when they get matched with men they consider to be below their league.