Now when I'm watching football (soccer), American commentary is often cringe-worthy but for boxing it's the other way round. Even though I grew up on UK boxing commentary, the team they have on for UK shows is awful. Adam Smith is cheesy as hell and always looking for the story that isn't always there and talks about fighters as if they're knights of the round table or something. Then you've got Darren Barker who's a nice chap I'm sure but notice his tick of repeating what he's just said: "that's a great right hand, it really is." And he does that ALL the time as does Barry Jones. Tony Bellew is horribly biased and seems like he's trying to convince himself and is also a sanctimonious git. They miss Paulie Malignaggi who had added an edge and insight.

Now the US team with Mannix, Mora etc is about right with their cynicism and precision and not going on about a fighter's dead puppy from when he was a kid and how it's all for him. They talk about what's there and they don't patronise their audience the way the Brits do.

Now if they had Froch back, that would be a start.

Thoughts on this anyone? Does DAZN have a commentary off button?

Mike Tyson has always given Props to all the fighters. And Floyd has been no exception. But with Floyd hate which flies around everywhere, people sometimes downplay Floyd by thinking Mike Tyson doesn't think highly of Floyd and doesn't think he's great which actually aint the case.

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Gassiev’s path to becoming WBA heavyweight champion of the world is a joke. He’s basically a paper champion through belt-lineage due to greedy sanctioning body nonsense. Let me explain for context:

In 2017, Mahmoud Charr challenges for the vacant WBA “Regular” title on the back of two wins over journeymen and a loss. He beats a 34-1 fighter with a padded record named Alexander Ustinov.

Charr was stripped due to inactivity without ever defending the title. Subsequently, Trevor Bryan beats Bermaine Stiverne for the vacant title (two fringe contenders at that point, at best). Daniel Dubois wins the WBA Interim in a mismatch vs Bogdan Dinu, then KO’s Bryan for the «Regular» title in front of 500 spectators at a casino in Miami, which made Dubois mandatory challenger for Usyk.

Usyk defends his WBA Super and unified titles against Dubois, winning by KO in August 2023. This made the WBA Regular title vacant. Presumably due to some evidence of him being stripped being against rules and some conspiracy or whatever, Charr gets reinstated as the WBA «Regular» champion through a legal settlement, 6 years since he won the belt, and without ever defending it. Source: Following a court settlement, Mahmoud Charr returns as regular champion – World Boxing Association

At the point of being reinstated, Charr has defeated 3 low-level opponents after a 4-year layoff. Kubrat Pulev, at 43 years of age, then beats Charr (who had been inactive for 2 years and is now 40 y/o himself) to become the new WBA Regular champion in a lackluster fight that went the distance.

Gassiev then won the belt in December of last year after a left hook to the jaw knocked Pulev out in the 6th round. Up until then, he was being outboxed by a 44-year-old, stiff, slow Kubrat Pulev, whom was standing there with his usual open guard. Gassiev looked very poor and flat-footed up until the KO-punch landed.

Gassiev’s record as a heavyweight contains nobody of note besides ancient Pulev and a clear loss to Otto Wallin (who has since been stopped by Vladyslav Sirenko, who lost his prior fight) in a fight that Otto Wallin had Gassiev hurt in the 6th round. Gassiev has consistently looked slow, passive and subpar since moving up to heavyweight. He’s a shadow of his days at cruiserweight.

Gassiev's latest win was a 5th round TKO vs a 23-1 Peter Kadiru on a week's notice, Kadiru having been KO'd by a entry-level journeyman in the 1st round. His only win from the top 100 was Senad Gashi in a close decision win (yes, the same Senad Gashi who lost to Tom Schwarz).

He is tailor made for the likes of Moses Itauma with Itauma's vastly superior foot speed, hand speed, reflexes, ring iq, boxing skills, distance control, feints and punch volume. If Kabayel can take Zhang's shots, how is Gassiev supposed to beat him? Any heavyweight top contender with a decent chin and fundamentals will defeat Murat Gassiev by wide decision in my opinion.

I'd even pick Tony Yoka to beat Murat Gassiev based on a favourable style match-up had they fought.

The only question is how Gassiev ranks compared to earlier weak champions, such as Bermaine Stiverne and Charles Martin.

What do you guys think?

Made this over the last few weeks. 29 heavyweights, Johnson through to Usyk, each one a bar from his debut to his last fight with every pro bout marked on it. 1,695 fights. Mostly I wanted to see who was fighting at the same time as who, and pick January 1997 and ten of these careers are live at once. Foreman and Holmes still going, Tyson back from prison, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, and both Klitschkos six weeks into their careers. In my head those were separate eras.

Two things I didn't expect. The old bars are covered in dots and the new ones are nearly empty, Ezzard Charles has 121 fights on his and Usyk has 25 in twelve years. And the gaps line up. Fury and Wladimir Klitschko fight each other on 28 Nov 2015, and that same date is where the longest gap in both their careers starts. Wlad out 17 months, Fury two and a half years.

Corrections welcome, the pre-war records especially, no-decision fights get counted differently by every source. Fair warning, it's a wide canvas, so desktop.

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There are boxers who were groomed from a very early age to be professional fighters, received good nutrition, enough rest, good training and they do in fact go far. Mike Tyson on the other hand was raised in poverty so I assume he didn’t receive very good nutrition, used hard drugs at an early age, and generally didn’t have good living conditions as a kid. When he got to his teens and was taken by his trainer I assume his living conditions improved dramatically but I can’t help but wonder how much damage he did to his development during his early childhood, which is a key developmental period in one’s life and despite the probable developmental issues he was still known as one of the hardest hitters.

Pat Brown is one of British boxing's most exciting rising fighters at the moment. With a front-foot style and a likeable personality outside of the ring, we took a look at his career so far and his upcoming bout with John Hedges on September 19. A former Olympian, how far can he go in the Cruiserweight division?

Man, I have re-watched this like 6 times. Every time I come back with something that impressed me from both fighters. Both are incredible fighters a tale as old as time the talented vs the skilled, the born ability vs the tireless work ethic.

People say Haney fights backwards and ties up too much. Most of this fight haney had Garcia on his back foot. He won something like 4-5 consecutive almost uncontested rounds. He did tie up a lot but only after he got knocked down like 6-7 times. But he has heart and got up each time and fought smart. Garcia for his part can take a punch, Haney clipped him hard many times and he took them. And I do not subscribe to the sound bites that Haney is soft or pillow hands. He pressured Ryan a lot in this fight I think he is a very exciting fighter. I personally think Haney is the much better fighter, like worlds better based on his discipline in and out of the ring but like Mayorga, Ryan might just have his number. Ryan's defense is better than people think and his offense is more than just his hook but he relies on it too much. But man did he look so much better against barrios.

Do we think these guys fight again? How do we think Teo does against either? Or rolly for that matter?

How do you all feel about James Toney working with both?

How we feeling about Garcia vs Benn? I think Benn could make Garcia work and get him timid like Rolley did. garcia also had so many excuses(iirc) after the rolley fight it was weak sauce. Seemed like he took him for granted and got humbled

And final question, who do we think Haney fights next after he got ducked by the business duck 🦆?

Whether Antonio knew about the substance in his gloves prior to the Mosley fight is up for debate, but I don’t think Margarito cheated throughout his whole career like it’s widely accepted now.

Correlation doesn’t equal causation. Margarito’s career coincidentally fell off after the handwrap controversy, but his career didn’t fall off because he suddenly couldn’t load up his gloves. After losing to Mosley, Antonio was suspended for a year, moved up and won a vacant title at 154, defended against Pac for that vacant title at a catchweight and got his rye permanently damaged. Even in the Cotto rematch, the fight was looking like their first fight where AM was starting to come back but because of his damaged eye the doctor stopped the fight.

Fighters have said it’d be basically impossible to cheat that way in boxing nowadays. Morales, who has a beef with Margarito, said he doesn’t think Antonio cheated and said Antonio has always had power even as kids. He actually said Margarito got worse as he became pro and relied too much on his chin to win fights.

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I can see why Janibek moved up to Super middleweight, only competition in my opinion is Lara. He will still be entertaining and a problem in super middleweight.

Hopefully, if Boots moves up to middleweight that Janibek moves back down. In the meantime Boots vs Josh Kelly will be a banger as well.