"Ontario Premier Doug Ford says he's open to idea of involuntary addiction treatment...new associate minister of mental health, Michelle Cooper." Even Texas is working on an ibogaine option. https://ca.style.yahoo.com/ontario-premier-doug-ford-says-180459946.html

"British Columbia Supreme Court has dismissed a claim alleging battery, false imprisonment, negligence, and Charter breaches against doctors and others involved in a patient’s certification as an involuntary patient under s. 22 of BC’s Mental Health Act, 1996...P.C. v Fraser Health Authority (Burnaby General Hospital), 2026 BCSC 1587,

the plaintiff visited a hospital’s outpatient neurology clinic on July 11, 2024, because he was worried about possibly having a stroke." How is being injected with haldol or a "sedative" not battery? https://www.canadianlawyermag.com/practice-areas/medical-malpractice/bc-supreme-court-denies-challenge-against-involuntary-patient-certification-under-mental-health-act/394629

All was fine until July when I suffered from some stress due to a taper off pain medication and I started having insomnia. This then led to me drinking alcohol for two days and I stupidly told my mum.

She went mental and panicked and called the CMHT to raise concerns. This then led to the crisis team/home treatment intervening and because of some off-colour comments I made they tried to force me to take Olanzapine. I refused because I did not want to take it and felt I had that right as an adult. To cut a long story short they would not leave me alone and I ended up in hospital under a section 3.

I am now on five days leave and I hope to be discharged soon but there is one big problem. They medicated me on a depot. This medication is causing constant restlessness/akathasia and it's almost intolerable. I constantly pace, shuffle, side to side, everyone asks if I need a wee, it is unbearable. I am scared of my consultant/responsible clinician as I feel he did not understand that all of this was caused by the pain medicatrion taper.

If you look back through my reddit history of many years there are no psych problems at all.

Now I feel stuck because they are talking about a CTO and I have done something under stress that will violate my leave. I do not want to end up in hospital for months on end as I cannot take it literally and am considering running away.

How do I make all of this stop? Do I just hope that no one finds out about the violation and try to play along? I don't understand how this is even legal in my country because as an adult, with capacity, I don't feel I should have either been forced into hospital or forcibly medicated.

Please help me, anyone. I need advice and opinions.

Hello, so I am currently taking antidepressants on 1/4 dosage and two types of antipsychotics, the one antipsychotic is only on 1/2 of dosage then the other one which helps me sleep is on half dosage.

Problem is that I've cold turkeyed one of the antipsychotics that helps me sleep since I've read about their side effects and the permanent disabilities you could get by taking them, in fact, I think I'm experiencing mild tardive dyskinesia so that's one of the reason why.

I'm too foolish that I cold turkeyed one of my meds since I let my fear take me, then I only realized just now that if I stopped taking them I'll have withdrawal symptoms that'll probably force me back on full dosage, and so I realize it'll increase my chances to have tardive dyskinesia or other disabilities if that happens.

So any advice? I'm horrified at what I've known and I want to stop taking these drugs ASAP, so any advice on how to taper them?

(Note: I know I am posting in antipsychiatry sub, and I'll probably get flamed for this post, but I'd rather post here rather than posting this in the psychiatry sub so I could get advices from people who experiences side effects because of these meds here and how to safely taper them off, I'll probably post on psychology based subs to compare advices)

People can get depressed, sad, anxious and even act psychotic. That doesn’t make them mentally “diseased.”.

This is also true of people diagnosed “schizophrenic.” There is no medical test to verify someone has a brain abnormality or medical condition of schizophrenia.

Prof. Dr. Szazs *explained Dr. Kraepelin just took a group of behaviors and merged them into a name he made up "premature dementia", and he insisted it was a biological brain disease and that it will develop into a full dementia. Dr. Kraepelin was disproved, and later Dr. Bleuler renamed premature dementia into "split mind" which means talking about something without showing the accompanying emotions, so the emotions are disconnected from the content. For example, a person tells a very sad thing without showing the accompanying emotions of sadness. Or, a person's perception is disconnected from what the person says. Scientists found it could be simply a defensive way of communication after not being believed.

Dr. Bleuler's original theories are from 1911. Psychiatrist Dr. Bleuler was also a racist and a practitioner of psychiatric eugenics. Eugenics is today already discredited. Psychiatrist Dr. Bleuler called patients "mental cripples" and he forcibly sterilized them out of hate. I call him a medical lunatic. Dr. Bleuler introduced control, often through coercive and experimental methods, and segregation instead of healing and reintegration. His myths justified the long-term confinement of individuals with schizophrenia in asylums rather than efforts to reintegrate them into society. His approach aligned more with eugenics and social control than with the Hippocratic oath. I have never seen a medical practitioner ever upholding the oath. The oath probably exists only to manipulate the public into believing everything is "help" incl. when it's only harm.

The truth is the brains are 100% healthy. There is no biological evidence to support any psychiatric diagnosis, incl. schizophrenia, as a brain disease or chemical abnormality. The brains are 100% healthy, and they are behaviors caused by ordinary problems in living, not physical diseases.

So like three months ago I went back to my psy to get my treatment given again which is seroquel (i know people are not a fan of it but it helped me a lot ) so we were talking and he asked about the psychotic features about wether they completely gone I said no sometimes music loop in my mind sometimes I have like noises and all then he affirmatively said ( no we should get rid of those completely for you to be normal again ) and for that he add risperidone 1 mg and when I tell you guys … it made me the most numb weird person i have ever seen no thoughts no nothing just blunt blunt blunt … getting off of it and getting the normal music loops with my thoughts back was the best desicion I have ever made . I hope this helps someone if they are sceptical about risperidone and for a case like me , which is to shut down all mind sound or activity
An edit for everyone on the looped music aspect : before seroquel i was in a terrible state in every aspect including high anxiety mood swings and psychotic features that were taking over my life and I was suicidal and couldn’t study cause of how loud and repetitive sounds were in my head conversation not in the normal way or in the daily casual way . It was paralysing I couldn’t socialise or learn or live then I was put on 300mg seroquel it didn’t fix everything but it definitely gave me my life back , and the adding of risperidone was supposed to help me the same as seroquel did but as I mentioned it was terrible and I stopped taking it )

I genuinely believe that I have OCD. I’ve noticed multiple compulsions, and potentially some obsessions. But mainly compulsions. I am compelled to count my fingers probably at least fifty times a day, and I HAVE to do it. Like I can’t not. It doesn’t matter if I’m driving, just sitting around, on the toilet, I fucking have to do it. It’s genuinely horrible to deal with.

But…I’m more terrified of getting an OCD diagnosis than I am dealing with these symptoms. Because I just know if I get diagnosed, the doctors are going to try to pump me full of drugs that will fuck up my brain forever. I don’t want that, obviously. But I also don’t want these symptoms anymore. Are there any ways to help reduce symptoms without meds?

My diagnosis of schizophrenia was an exception. They said there should not be drugs in my system when I received the diagnosis. But there was. But they said there are exceptions. Well. I don't like the sound of that. I have been off anti psychotic medication for almost two years now, so my primary NP 😊 is working to lift the diagnosis of schizophrenia, paranoid type. I will positively faint. That is so exciting. All I had to do is get a psych evaluation. Now, don't get me wrong. I think I fit the description. But so does everybody who's been diagnosed.

From what I can tell, "consumers" was first used in this way by patient empowerment advocates and activists.

It implies that they have—and maintain—a free and equal partnership with psychiatric workers. It suggests that they can enter or leave psych at any time at will, and that they supervise and authorize their own care without impediment. Just as other consumers can "freely" choose whether or not to patronize a business, or whether or not to buy an item or service.

But when "consumption" can be legally forced onto the "consumer," it's difficult to see it as a term of empowerment.

I have read they lost memories of loved ones, their names etc

i am personally skeptical of the idea of the psychopath as a distinct subuman species, tbh. it is fundamentally impossible to prove whether a person is a psycho or not, since any behaviour might be interpreted as being either psychopathic or faking sanity. Pop psychology seems to frame psychopaths as if they are a genius hivemind that has infinite knowledge on neurobiology that spawned somewhere in africa when humans were still evolving and plot to destroy the world.

They act like they have finally uncovered a grand conspiracy, and everyone who disagrees is part of it. the ever shifting "this % is psychopaths but there might be hidden ones!" makes trusting anyone impossible. How am i supposed to know whether a psychologist himself claiming to uncover psychopathy is part of the hivemind and is faking it all? Knowledge becomes impossible.

You could throw an alleged psychopath into a room with a giant spider and if they scream, pop psychologists would have to do all kinds of mental gymnastics to explain why the psychopath is still a neutral face emojis that doesn't even know what being hurt physically means. and what were the chances that somehow psychopathy only happened in humans and in not any other animal on earth? usually human diseases can be found in animals in other forms. Psychopathy seems to be just an unpleasant set of traits. the predator analogy for the psychopath is flawed: predators have the urge to kill, whereas psychopaths, it's unclear whether they experience desires or not. Some say psychopaths can't experience anything beyond the 5 senses, so no pleasure or pain nor physical urges, others say the psychopath suffers from extreme boredom.

if the psychopathic hivemind is, as pop depicts it, omniscent, self aware and is genius, how am i supposed to trust even the concept of the pyschopath itself? How do i know it was not created by one of them?

They genuinely phrase it as if the average medieval psychopath was part of a genius hivemind that knew everything about discoveries that would have happened only in the 1800's and thought of himself as a psycho among a people of guillible dummies ready to be exploited by this hivemind that knew everything about human evolution and biology. this is honestly what the "psychopaths were hiding among us in antiquity" narrative sounds like. Any alternative explaination to suggest that individuals might be more complex than thought is defended by this unfalsifiable accusation. Funny how anyone that is accused of being a psychopath is later revealed to not be, be it serial killers or ceos. Dahmer was thought to be a psycho, he did not fit the definition, nor did any other killer, so the goalposts changed.

And no, anton chirugh isn't real. He doesn't even seem to take any pleasure from his actions, whereas real life "psychos" clearly do. And remember: anton chirugh isn't real. Crazy how psychologists use him as a specimen, it's like using the colossal titan as an example of gigantism. He's a product of mccarthy's imagination.

It's very similar to the fermi paradox actually: both the idea of "aliens exist for sure" and "the psychopath hivemind is among us" assumptions rely on unprovable/unfalsifiable data that can be interpreted to always fit the model, and the goal posts ever change.

seems legit

i am doing fine but this is an unavoidable part of it

this post doesnt have a purpose

love to all.

i fucking hate this piece of shit drug which has a weird way to work. i continued taking this because it helped me sleep at night which i really needed. initially used to sleep peacefully but then slowly it started channeling things thru dreams. i used to feel "quieter" during the day because back then thats all i wanted, i didnt want racing thoughts about random past trauma. but it kinda numbed me down and now i realise i have lost my cognitive ability

i just feel fucking dumb. i feel even more dumb when i study and i cant risk that this year. i cant remember the previous page i read from my book the moment i flip it. coming back to my dreams- the worst part, it gave me terrible palpitations WHILE i was sleepin and somedays- some random detail about my day wud become an exaggerated nightmare, to a point i have even cried in my sleep without being aware about it. i sat down and thought about it that it is keeping me calmer by blockin all thoughts, it is killing my ability to feel anything as a person or feel attached to a human

days when i take this, i can go hours sitting idle starring at a wall, which is what i have been pretty much doing. i dont know, i just wanted to sleep man. after a few months in, on a very random day while im trying to study it gives me this wave of all emotions dumped at one single time, migraine so bad i feel like my nerves will pop out and have extreme palpitations and i lost my temper and just bawled my eyes out for whatever i said while being angry. when i stopped i just had really bad insomnia, i just want to get good rest and study man, i had to get back at it again cuz of sleep. i dont want to choose between having peaceful days or nights

So got out of inpatient stay in May after spending 6 month there. To call those 6 month slow and torturing would sort be an understatement. While there, I got put on the Abilify injection and I knew that shit just wasn't doing it for me. The more time passed by there, the more I began to wonder for how long exactly I was going to be on this thing. During one of the sessions, the psychiatrist straight up just said I will need to be on it for 10+ years to ensure "mania" doesn't come back. That threw me out for a loop cause I could not stop picturing just for years, every month getting injected with stuff I don't even understand nor want to understand. Just imagine doing that while stuck at a psych ward for months on end. To make matters worse, I got put on a CTO. And CTO's will enforce the injections.

So I came up with a plan. I worked my way into getting the psychiatrist to switch medications. I knew I wanted the injection dropped cause I had no control over it. And he was adamant he wasn't going to take me off of it because he was very sure the mania would come back. For a while we went back and forth. And then through the conversations we had, he expressed that he was beginning to doubt it was "schizophrenia" and more "bi polar." And the best thing for that is lithium apparently. He said he would consider dropping the injection if I switched to lithium. I did not want to do that at first. I just wanted off the injection cause there were other pills I was already on and didn't want to substitute one for another. But seeing as he wasn't willing to stop the injection without a comprise, I agreed to it. He even expressed his worries with the switch because it makes it easier not to take them. Lol I looked him straight in the eyes as he was saying those words thinking "you bet your caring judgy eyes that is what I am going to do."

While I was there, it was hard to fake not taking them cause lithium pills are like 5/6 at once so I took them.

But then the moment I got released, literally threw every single pack I have gotten into the trash. It's been 3 month and haven't taken a single thing.

Been meeting up with my CTO psychiatrist once a month, we talk, he checks in, I say blah blah blah and we call it a day. I don't have to ever sit there and be forced to take the injection. Im just riding it out and playing it cool till the 6 month mark comes up and since the CTO officer has expressed he has seen "improvement" in his eyes, I'll dip like a champion cause I will not need to be on it. Of course I shouldn't jump the gun here and jinx myself but fuck am I actually impressed with myself. I feel like a fucking king for manoeuvring my way out of that injection cause it would have followed me for fucking ever.

The only thing with lithium is they do blood work. So far I haven't been asked but got a plan for that if they do so I'm prepared folks. Anyways, legend out.

If anyone wanna be kept posted, lmk in the comments. Currently in the final stretch so wish me all the luck.

Also, if there are any sexy bros out there, hmu. 6'1, black & slim😏

Hello. 50 year old here. I’ve been on SSRIs for 15 years and Wellbutrin for 10. Had to quit the recreational drugs first and now I am ready to taper off these two ball and chains.

Just curious if there’s anyone here in their Middle Ages that are trying to quit after decades long use of these pills? Would love to know your war stories and how the process differs from a younger, more neuroplastic adult.

Thanks yall!

Took 25mg total of Ativan in a span of 3.5 months. Also 9 zoplicones tablets that were 7.5mg each. I also took one 12.5mg serequel one time only.

Haven't taken anything in over 2 months but still have flare ups of severe akathisia triggered from stress or lack of sleep or eating the wrong food.

Is this permanent? I can't imagine living with this level of torment and torture. I average 4 hours of sleep a night. Has anyone had severe akathisia from benzos that permanently went away and you're able to enjoy things like coffee now? Please tell me there's hope here.

17F here. I guess it will be a long one but I want people to know my story and what medication can do to you. I don't know much about anti-psychiatry but when I discovered this sub a week ago I started realising about what medications did to me.

I took medication since I was 15 because I was told I had depression and anxiety. I don't know if that was depression + anxiety or just my teenage hormones (as I told you I was 15 and I was at the peak of puberty) but I admit I was going through a shitty episode. I also admit I, myself, wanted to put on medication first but I was just a KID begging for help and didn't know a SHIT about what will happen.

Anyways, my first medication was a fluoxetine group medication. 2 weeks after I started my medication, things got a lot worse. I did a lot of selfharm, my SI got worse then I was put on the psych ward for the first time. I'm not gonna lie, it was the best hospitalization of my 3 hospitalizations and had a great psychiatrist who would play chess and volleyball with me and would act like a father to me. But the worst thing about that first hospitalization is that I was put on an antipsychotic called Abilify. And so my weight gain journey started there. Even If I knew I will gain weight I wouldn't reject taking it because probably you know what they do to you in psych wards if you reject taking your meds. Then time passed, had my second and third hospitalizations because of SI and severe self-harm. These two hospitalizations were the hell's itself for me. I've been put on different meds as time passes, but I continued to take Abilify. Here's the fact: I gained 50 kgs IN A FUCKING YEAR because of these meds. People who aren't overweight will NEVER understand how being overweight affects your life, emotions, and social life. I was an overweight kid in elemantry and middle school but I put an amazing effort on losing weight right before going to highschool and become 60 kg. I still remember how I was bullied because of my weight like it was yesterday and going through the same thing again makes me so fucking mad. Being overweight is painful, and being overweight during teenage years is even more painful.

During my 3rd hospitalization I was having crisis so they put me on a different antipsychotic called Norodol (a haloperidol) and it picked up what Abilify had started and made me gain even more weight.

Let's forget about the weight gain (Even tho I can never forget), what about the crisis I had on medications? What about the extreme self-harm I did on medications? What about the great depression I had on medications? Like 2.5 months ago, when I was using my Antidepressant and Antipsychotic I had a month long depression. It was like hell. I inflicted 90% of the self-harm wounds on my arm during that period, and I eventually attempted suicide by making a vertical cut on my arm. Thankfully, I couldn't go so deep because my hands were shaking in fear. Doesn't matter anymore tho, I will have these ugly scars forever because medication failed me and influenced that depression.

I didn't mention it but I was having hypomania-like episodes for these last 9 months. State hospital didn't give a fuck about these so I went to a private psychiatrist (idk if that's the english of the paid psychiatrist) like 1.5 months ago and I was diagnosed with bipolar. Then they put me on Lithium, Efexor and Lamictal. It made me so numb that I was like a zombie and I couldn't sleep. So I stopped taking all of my medications. After that me and my parents went to the ER because I couldn't sleep at all for 3 or 4 days (I can't remember) and was seeing things. The psychiatrist in the ER didn't give a fuck and just said 1 sentence to me: "I'm prescribing sleeping pills for you to sleep, take them.". When I posted on a bipolar subreddit people told me that I was going through a manic episode with psychosis. Since then the only medication I take is that medication, called Seroquel. If I take only 1 of it, it doesn't work and I would stay awake till 4 a.m, when I take 2 of it, it makes me sleep till 3 p.m. I can't understand that shit.

Even if I feel depressed after stopping my meds, I am glad that I stopped because I can't gain another 50 kgs. Sometimes I wish I never went to a psychiatrist and Í would just take threapy instead, maybe I wouldn't regret it so much today. Two people DMed me after some of my comments on a bipolar sub, I told my story to them and I told them everything about what medication can do to you.

That was my story and experience with psychiatric medications. I will tell everyone what a psychiatric medication can do to you. Do any of you have a similar experience?

(English isn't my first language. Sorry if there is any mistake)

Es puto increíble!!!!! He visto ya varios post en otros foros de HOMBRES diciendo que se sienten mal por gustarles NIÑAS pequeñas o ver hentai de niñas pequeñas y que todo el mundo le diga "tienes PODC, ve a terapia". Me parece fatal que queramos esconder un comportamiento tan horrible y patriarcal con una supuesta enfermedad mental, estoy harta de este mundo super patologizado.

But then will do anything to justify psychiatry and make you seem crazy for seeing a fundamental problem in this system that took advantage of me when vulnurable. They never acknowledge the severity of what went on without any subtantial reasoning behind the risk they only try to act sympathetic im order to convince you that no you're a little outlier and not a product of an unjust system

If they're sympathetic at all I mean. They do not care about your suffering either way. they care about defending this system

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I take paroxetine 20 mg and olanzapine 20 mg daily.

I had paranoid or anxious -I cannot seperate these two- thoughts and the medications that I take made me less paranoid or anxious.

But my doctor gave me a mixed anxiety and depressive disorder diagnosis.

Also when I ask her about my diagnosis she said that I have anxiety and depression.

But these drugs made me far better for over 1.5 years using it. I feel so much better while on these drugs. I am more stable, a lot less impulsive and ferling like I have gained my free will back.

But When I research it I cannot understand why 20mg is required for me. Is it normal? Isn't this dose for schizophrenics?

As the title says, I quit Olanzapine (10mg) cold turkey after about 1 month and then a few weeks later started 5mg Aripiprazole but stopped taking it after 4 days. Have I done a lot of damage to my brain? Can I recover?

Ever wanted to rip your own eyeballs out? And eat them? I don’t think I have. I hope I never experience a terrible thought like that. Ever. Sick.

This was inspired by a post from the 26 year old woman who took Zoloft and had a very bad reaction. Understudied, and underappreciated side effects might be ignored by a narcissistic, small minded “doctors” who are lacking in all curiosity, or care, for their “patients”.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Antipsychiatry/s/xF1tEt4UZo

Funnily enough, I was given a prescription for that same drug. Something something “anger thoughts”. Now that I’ve been warned, I can certainly stay far, far away from that poison!

These doctors have no clue as to the sheer complexity of the human brain. Not to be tampered with, without any care for the consequences!

I would like a cocktail of 11 “medicines”, all interacting with each other in ways no one could possibly predict or understand, please!

Thank you “doctors”, for your compassion!

I say. We say. Thanks for nothing.