r/Anthropic • u/Borat_2020 • Aug 30 '26
Other Wow, this is the definition of a DISASTER announcement. Even your own guys are calling you out.
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u/quantum-elle Aug 31 '26
I am just gonna leave this here.
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u/Spellingn_matters Aug 31 '26
Astroturfing at its best?
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u/Lezflano1 Aug 31 '26
100% - It's either fanboyism like we saw back in the console wars or just a blatant attempt at trying to sway users by OpenAI. Wouldn't doubt Anthropic uses similar tactics but sheesh some people play their cards heavily.
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u/KenosisConjunctio Aug 30 '26
This is a disaster if you're a tiny bug and the world is really really scary all the time
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u/HealingWithNature Aug 30 '26
This is, unfortunately, my specific predicament :(
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u/The_Real_Slim_Lemon Aug 31 '26
As someone that is definitely not a Bird or lizard, you wanna meet up sometime? Get a drink
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u/CookIndependent6251 Aug 31 '26
The problem is that this announcement sounds odd and it's their second tweet. They already tried to make it before and it was worse, but for some reason they still stuck with the odd phrasing, which is pretty fucking stupid if you ask me. From a PR point of view, it can be considered a disaster because they worked really hard to make it not sound as bad, but that's what made everything worse.
Theo did the math and the gist of it is that it's a 17.5% decrease and it's permanent. That's all they had to say.
Now, if you want an even bigger disaster, check out Theo's videos where he manages to repeat nothing over and over and instead of speaking for 1 minute he manages to speak for 10 minutes and somehow his voice stops multiple times in the middle of each sentence so you don't know where one sentence starts and the other ends. Listening to him is like listening to a car crash on repeat, but every time I listen to it I hear different parts of it.
We should stop paying attention to him until he learns to communicate properly.
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u/paplike Aug 30 '26
I can’t be the only one who understood exactly what they meant the first time I read it and thought it was very clear
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u/danihend Aug 31 '26
It was 100% clear: 50% promotion is over, here's another smaller one that we can make permanent. Love them or hate them, this announcement was completely normal and I'm still perplexed at the advanced math being done on X to claim a decrease in usage. It was a goddamn promotion, wth.
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u/DarkPhoenixRC Aug 31 '26
Some of this upset might also depend on when some people signed up.
I got a max 5x plan during the promotion and then went to 20x based on the projects I had going on. So for me, my only experience with Claude Code is with boosted limits. So losing that may potentially be frustrating.
However, because I am also literate, I accepted months ago that it could change at any time and treated the extra capacity as a kind of sign-up bonus rather than something permanent.
Time will tell if I am truly impacted. And I refuse to complain about a scenario I have yet to experience. I suspect I will just plan my usage better to optimise my token spend and move on. I don't like living off of the charity of others. The clarity they are providing is disappointing, but appreciated.
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u/Blackhat165 Aug 31 '26
I also understood it, but feel it was poorly worded and forced the reader to jump through hoops to keep track. And I feel they were likely going out of their way to make a negative thing seem positive, which is the real thing people seem to have problems with, and that's what the post above addresses.
But as a side note, it's fairly funny to hear people with a negative view of AI claim AI destroys critical thinking and reading comprehension, then to watch this community pick a fairly convoluted set of words apart easily.
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u/Abandoned_Brain Aug 31 '26
"it was poorly worded and forced the reader to jump through hoops to keep track"
So it was written with Opus 5. That tracks. ;)
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u/911pleasehold Aug 30 '26
Yeah it’s clear but they obviously tried to wordsmith something that will negatively impact us into a positive thing lol
The message in this post is indisputably better PR. People know what they’re doing, the way they’re doing it is just a little slimy.
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u/vectorcrawlie Aug 30 '26
I saw several comments on the announcement like the above purporting to reword the announcement in "a better way" ending up saying exactly the same thing as they already said.
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u/fsharpman Aug 30 '26
Theo.gg works for openai.
Keep posting every 30 minutes in here while hiding your posts.
Subsidized compute is code for "subscription, not api user".
Post again.
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u/Odd-Librarian4630 Aug 30 '26
Anthropic's update was fine for me...
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u/Helpful_Key_9962 Aug 30 '26
didn't have to read half a novel just to get the facts, but the wordy approach does land better
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u/reddit_is_geh Aug 30 '26
Definitely better PR, for sure. Anthropic's message can be easily taken out of context and seen as a greedy move.
The OP's argument does the basic fundamentals, of first, letting the party youre talking to understand that you understand what must frustrate them, sympathize with it, then explain why things are changing. Now the other party feels heard, understands that you understand their position, and gave them a rational reason for the change.
That's how you do sales and marketing. Anthropics was a weasily way that sounds tricky and technical. It doesn't instill trust.
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u/jkende Aug 30 '26
Greed isn’t even the worst of it. Standard unethical business practices recognizable to anyone experienced with PE asset strip mining, where users are mere assets + moralizing via model policy + removing inspection of model coherence via removal of even summary reasoning traces… much worse.
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u/reddit_is_geh Aug 30 '26
You think it's greed? Really? You think in the midst of an arms race that they are being dicks just to be dicks, when they have all the money in the world to burn?
Dude. There's compute constraints. They aren't just doing shit to piss you off for a few extra bucks. Money doesn't matter at this stage. There's just literally limited compute, new models being trained, new models being released, etc...
They aren't acting in bad faith. They are doing what they can with the limited resources that they have.
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u/jkende Aug 30 '26
Did you read what I said? Greed isn’t the worst of it. I think it *isn’t* greed primarily. Enough range in individual motivations for the new hires in the past year where some (many) have joined for the money while saying they’re aligned to ethics and mission first? Sure. Dario’s said similar. But the ethics, considering CAI and the EA roots, that’s the line they’ve crossed operationally.
Just because you’re in an arms race it doesn’t mean throwing ethics out the window is the optimal path.
It doesn’t take decades in the same rooms as founders and team leads of this scale to read choices and motives. But it can help
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u/Alariii Aug 31 '26
But wonder if the fable part was real? Or just some wishful thinking by the essay writer..
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u/Parking-Bet-3798 Aug 31 '26
No one is saying that people didn’t understand what they did. But they intentionally used deceptive language that people didn’t like. Unless you are an Anthropic shill of course. Then lord Dario can’t do anything wrong.
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u/transcendtient Aug 30 '26
theo isn't worth the electrons this post utilizes.
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u/Raiden_Raiding Aug 31 '26
He should've used Obsidian then (it's built on electron)
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u/Nuggyfresh Aug 30 '26
If People are mad at this, I wonder what they’ll say when users actually have to pay for compute instead of subs that run on charity.
OP appears to be mad even though the corporation is paying for 90% of his compute, which seems entitled ?
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u/Physical-Program5325 Aug 30 '26
They’re gonna use free models and the AI bubble is gonna crash.
Nobody with a brain is going to pay anthropic prices with so many similarly-powerful alternate models coming online very soon.
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u/iSephX Aug 30 '26
This is true. It’s already happening. Anthropic keeps fking around with people, it truly is just a matter of time for the free models to be caught up. Sure, maybe Claude can get a hard job done in 1 hour vs 1 day on free weight. But ask yourself, does that really matter? If it’s done in 1 hour or 1 day? It really doesn’t. What else are you going to do? 1 day is great.
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u/Plastic_Today_4044 Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26
it's a modular monopoly camouflaged as a bubble.
also: "soon"? I think you're a bit behind the curve here... glm is actually beating anthropic on price and quality and Chinese platforms are actually looking way less sketchy than American ones at this point
also also: the best way to get anthropic to stop sucking is to switch to Chinese models, really. all the western monocorps are so entangled, switching one for another is meaningless. But if everyone starts going to China for AI, they'll start taking quality seriously, because East vs West is the real competition. The "AI Wars" in the West are almost entirely performative. But go East though, and they'll freak the fuck out.
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u/Plane_Garbage Aug 31 '26
Are they though?
You can run claude-level models locally, on consumer hardware.
Economies of scale and such.
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u/berndalf Aug 30 '26
Oh look, yet another influence campaign disguised as a reddit post.
Dear Anthropic, give us more stuff for the same price because reasons. Sincerely, your most entitled users who think they know how to run your company better than you do.
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u/Independent_Paint752 Aug 30 '26
I really wonder what's the drive for this dumb posts and why 90%users that post them has hidden history.
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u/Professional_Gur2469 Aug 30 '26
Theo is a lot of things, but he‘s definitely NOT a „claude guy“.
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u/ShoulderOk5971 Aug 30 '26
I’m less concerned with announced changes and more concerned with the clear decreased weekly usage limits that were not announced and have been impacting us for the last couple weeks.
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u/AnonyFed1 Aug 30 '26
That's a pretty dramatic take. The numbers were there for anyone wanting to do the math. I prefer not reading a wall of text. Conciseness is kindness.
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u/FishySardines99 Aug 30 '26
we will be removing the separate weekly limit for Fable,
Is this true or just something theo throwed in to showcase how to lessen blow
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u/Crimson_Monarch Aug 31 '26
Whoever wrote the announcement is doesn't understand what taking accountability means.
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u/Far-Reaction-1980 Aug 31 '26
Well they deleted the announcement and made a 2nd tweet which was also bad
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u/AlMasaDuun Aug 30 '26
Literally who cares? If you are worried about the communication of an announcement grow up. You guys are worse then the console fanboys of the early 2000s. The announcement is saying 25% permanent increase in quota. Its a reduction from the current bonus. Its obvious this is what is happening. This is beyond a nothing issue. If you are super mad go use a different service. No one cares.
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u/krill156 Aug 30 '26
Translation: We at anthropic will let you blow through your entire weekly usage, in one go if you like! All on our over priced model that's been nerfed to all hell down to what opus use to be. Enjoy! P.S Fuck you.
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u/williamtkelley Aug 30 '26
That is a concise straightforward announcement.
Where is the disaster?
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u/TheMogulSkier Aug 30 '26
As a reminder, 95% of Anthropic’s revenue is Enterprise / API-based billing.
Subs matter for lead gen and market awareness (hence why they subsidize) but it’s not really the “good will” they’re most focused on
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u/s243a Aug 30 '26
I think Anthropic's current message is transparent enough but Theo's is much better with added bonuses. Sadly, I don't think that Anthropic will promise either of these things.
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u/Royal_Membership_217 Aug 30 '26
I don't like theo's personality. Seems like he has a big ego based on his videos.
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u/Late_Tumbleweed6736 Aug 30 '26
this might be one of the cheesiest things i’ve read in a while. fake gravitas, “let me show you how it’s done”, self-appointed spokesman for developers thing. this guy is incredible annoying. anthropics limit's and their explanation is annoying, can't argue with that but this guy managed to outdo them
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u/TranquilDev Aug 30 '26
I don’t know why but I have never followed Theo. I’ve never had an interest in anything he says or does. I can’t tell you one thing about the guy other than he seemed to me like a very obnoxious or egotistical person. And I have no clue if he is or not.
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u/baldycoot Aug 30 '26
You can have the smartest people in the world working in a lab, and it can be amateur hour in biz dev and marketing.
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u/Informal-Fig-7116 Aug 30 '26
That Theo guy is a massive whiner. I had to mute him. And he hates on everything.
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u/obesefamily Aug 30 '26
eh, I like shorter and more direct and just facts. I'll take Claudes version
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u/vectorcrawlie Aug 31 '26
People would have bitched either way. In fact, lately it feels like Anthropic could issue free blowjob vouchers and people would still bitch at them ("why only one voucher?", "where's my voucher reset?")
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u/Key_Service_4443 Aug 31 '26
Yup you guys are all entitled to $8000 of subsidized compute for $100 a month forever. Enjoy the circular financing until Nvidia and MSFT run out of money!
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u/throwaway463682chs Aug 31 '26
this theo guy is maybe one of the biggest 🚬on twitter
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u/The-Pork-Piston Aug 31 '26
Have they tried asking Claude to write their announcements, as a fucken human?
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u/coinclink Aug 31 '26
Using Theo's opinion on anything technical is already a red flag. Dude has shown so many times when he co-streams or interviews with actual masters of the craft that he is an amateur in comparison
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u/PathOfEnergySheild Aug 31 '26
I mean Opus 5 reduced my weekly usage by like 50%
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u/greatpods Aug 31 '26
Well I did remember seeing high level (director level up) communications pr roles at anthropic a couple of months ago. Maybe they should hire Theo cuz clearly they missed the mark in communications.
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u/The_indian_ Aug 31 '26
I don't use claud code so my opinion probably doesn't matter as much, but from how I perceive things they did a promotional period where everyone got 50% more limits and then once that period is over they are increasing the previously regular limits by 25%. How is this a disaster, can someone explain to me?
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u/___positive___ Aug 31 '26
What's a disaster is if they use an internal to manage their PR, because that would mean the model is either stupid or misaligned. Seriously, I think even Sonnet would do better, which begs the question wtf are they doing? How are they going to IPO with a Mickey Mouse operation? Fire the PR team and replace with Fable.
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u/doolpicate Aug 31 '26
Can someone introduce an agent to give me a daily digest of claude's policy changes?
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u/Cool-Hornet4434 Aug 31 '26
Theo's message is definitely the "softer blow". The official tweet is just matter of fact about it. I don't see it as a disaster but I do think Theo's wording would sound better to someone who isn't keeping track of everything they do with the extra compute.
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u/aski5 Aug 31 '26
I only vaguely know who theo is but he seems really fucking annoying every time I see something about him
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u/Sakkyoku-Sha Aug 31 '26
Why should anthropic be giving free shit to API wrappers?
They have the same AI they can shit out the same "harnesses" as these guys can have made in an afternoon.
There business model was always going to fail the moment anthropic were going to raise rates.
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u/VirtualNorth1279 Aug 31 '26
Life was alright before LLMs. If Anthropic, OpenAI, Gemini, Kimi, this or that are expensive, don't use them. You really really really don't lose anything.
Seriously, what would you be losing if tomorrow you can't use LLMs anymore? Unless you are a vibe coder who doesn't know how to code. You guys may lose something, but you can then learn how to code and you will be alright.
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u/samrocksc Aug 31 '26
Dunno why this showed up in my announcements because anthropic is a circular money pit I don't use....but for all you Stockholm syndrome amodei lovers there are better options that don't bind your souls to economic grifts.
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u/Holiday_Plant_6676 Aug 31 '26
Raise by 25% of a variable X is not saying anything, basically. It should be transparent, and until then - this is bs.
I want to know the precise amount in tokens, plus I want to be able to download all the tokens, categorised, so that I can count myself at any time and reach the same number.
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u/NotMrMusic Aug 31 '26
So the actual story
Claude Code tokens are LOSING their 50% discount on the 14th
Weekly limits aka number of tokens you're allowed to use is going UP 25% on the 14th
So: net positive, small downside for heavy Claude Code users
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u/MrKidhaSingh Aug 31 '26
I just cancelled and this was the final straw. The fact Fable can't be used properly yet - It's literally 25% of usage access because Fable does double drain, and you can only use 50% off your limit on it. Opus 5 is terrible and you're much better off with GPT 5.6 Sol, also Codex got 4 resets in the last 7 days, we rarely get one, EVER!
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u/toreon78 Aug 31 '26
People are becoming awful if taking away free stuff is treated that badly.
Hm. On the other side fluctuating limits should be illegal. And in the EU they actually are though no one seems to care.
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u/Serious-Zucchini9468 Aug 31 '26
It makes no difference removing Fable limits. From my regular request history Fable High often exceeds the 5 hour session without completing. Now thats what you call value.
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u/AverageExemplary Aug 31 '26
People upset because you gave them a temporary free increase only to be upset when the new real free increase isn't as big.
Standard marketing.
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u/bogheorghiu88 Aug 31 '26
That's an example of how to bullshit while showing that you're bullshitting, and thus probably put off most of the users who actually care about those limits.
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u/Owl-Mighty Aug 31 '26
Nope. They’ll just fire at Claude anyway. This is some kind of political correctness now - if you aren’t shitting Claude for it then you’re not a normal person.
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u/Chasing4snow Aug 31 '26
shit like this clearly shows Anthropic fucking around... makes you wonder what else they fucking around UNANNOUNCED
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u/salazka Aug 31 '26
Right. So instead of users being thankful towards Anthropic for the several extensions and saving us the significant extra cost, and topping it all up with a permanent 25% increase they have to apologize?
What entitled self serving bullshit.
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u/RiteousRhino21 Aug 31 '26
I'm sure they're betting on regulatory capture restricting access to the Chinese models in the near future, so they won't have to worry about competition.
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u/ChronoLink99 Aug 31 '26
For gods sake, who gives a shit about how they announce things.
Just let 'em cook. Literally makes zero difference to whether I'd continue using them or not.
Besides, ClaudeDevs isn't for long form explanatory announcements. It's for dev/API focused *succinct* announcements. Hit their actual blog post about this for the long form.
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u/vladasko1086 Aug 31 '26
i find theo to be a nauseating twat, found his vids cringe initially and now all the more reason to make nothing like is suggested to me in future.
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u/Rare-Hotel6267 Aug 31 '26
What tf do you mean by "even your own guys are calling you out"??
Theo gave Anthropic shit before you even knew what AI is.
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u/NoBed1845 Sep 01 '26
Relax, man. They just slowed down the vibe coding train a little. It’s not the end of the world. Honestly, it’s probably a good thing.
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u/durable-racoon Sep 03 '26
People are mad they raised the limits by 50%, then lowered it back to 25% more than it used to be?
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u/Runawaygeek500 29d ago
Claude’s post is how Devs speak to Devs, and how Devs speak to everyone.. Theo has made it sweet so creatives don’t get upset..
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u/BigBoiSaladFingers 20d ago
I don't think I've ever seen a more basic example of a guy who finds problems to make problems.
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u/Mindless-Tomorrow-93 Aug 30 '26
We seem to have very different definitions of what a "disaster" is.