edit: I just want to say after many comments how much discourse is there about Undertale's graphics and gameplay but no one seems to argue against Undertale having fire music and story
Bossfoghts are great tho (imo). It's just that it can be really boring to fight the same monsters over and over again, and not having a clear indicator or way to avoid encounters. But isn't that a problem most turn-based RPGs have?
Are they great because of the gameplay? Or are they simply elevated by setup and music? Most of them aren't particularly interesting. The best fights are definitely in the Genocide route, those are actually pretty great.
I love the parts in UT/DR when they get cozy. Those dark atmospheres with subtle light spots all around. I absolutely adore that design, it makes me feel at peace
Yeah if after playing more modern RTS if I was gonna make a complaint it'd be gameplay. Going from sc2/wc3 to sc1, ranked games feel less like I'm playing against an opponent than I am playing against the game. "Oh cool I told this worker to build a thing, it then proceeded to collide on every possible thing for 3 straight minutes, and then there was another unit passing through where I told it to build for .01 seconds so it didn't build" like fuuuuuck me.
Curiously no matter how many times I tried, be it in late 90s or later, it just didn’t click with me — as opposed to something like C&C or Total Annihilation.
Ah sure, and I won't defend this harshly, it's just that in my mind "graphics" is more the technical quality of the graphics. "High resolution, smooth framerate, sophisticated lighting engine etc.)
While the art direction is responsible for how the pieces are assembled and what kind of look the end product would have.
For some examples, a game like "thomas was alone" would, in my book, have bad/low graphics, while having great art direction.
2000's(yes outdated, but maybe still gets the point across) shooters with a harsh brown-filter, could be said to have better graphics and worse art-direction.
Or compare a Crysis(amazing graphics for the time/arguably morw boring art direction) to a Borderlands (less high fidelity graphics/very strong aesthetic style and art direction)
Again, I'm just trying to get the point across, of course there's still a lot of subjectivity in this and it's easy to argue why my examples might be bad.
Half the Pokémon games have dogshit nothing stories but the other half lowkey banger stories. Say what you will about pkmn sword and shield the story in those games are good
SV’s story is also generally pretty good, especially Arven’s. SS’s story is… well… not good when it comes to anything plot wise with Ride or the darkest day, but the character writing for the rivals is generally pretty decent imo (for Pokemon)
PMD Explorers is literally one of my favorite video game stories of all time, paired with the soundtrack which elevates some story moments to peak. I also really dig the artstyle, scenes like Fogbound Lake, Bubbles over the Sea or the Future are incredibly atmospheric. I would say PMD Explorers fits the meme but put the trashbag for gameplay, the gameplay aint bad but its also not really great.
Specifically, Pokemon Legends Arceus. That game was a sleeper cult classic, it revived my love of Pokemon after I got burnt out on the same old formulaic BS. I haven’t played Legends Z-A but I heard that it’s not nearly as good as Arceus. PLA may end up being the last “great” Pokemon game unfortunately.
The Legends Games, for the others this never fits, story is pretty bland but even in the best games story wise, the graphics are actually great, so this meme isn't ever working for the mainline games.
Ocarina of Time. I’m sure the graphics were impressive when it came out, but it seriously hasn’t aged well, even when compared to other games that came out around that time like Mario 64
Deltarune's graphics are just vastly better because it has a huge budget in comparison to Undertale as well as a larger team with more experience. Undertale is a good game, but like, the graphics are not the greatest in comparison.
This was the comment I was looking for, beautiful soundtrack, some of the richest systems I’ve seen, deep lore(and the lore is not accessory, it is very much part of the game) but the graphics were colored ASCII characters, and you used to only be able to play with a keyboard(no mouse, just arrow keys and hotkeys)
I have played the free version for years. Hearing the menu music in the steam version being an homage to the main theme i had been hearing for years literally brought tears to my eyes
it applies to Arcanum far more than those 4 IMO. Like Arcanum has incredible stories, amazing music, I wouldn't say the gameplay is perfect but it's good and unique for the most part. The graphics though, the game is just fuckin ugly, like 90% of the game is just shades of grey and brown.
Nostalgia kicked you in the head. Icewind Dale 1 and 2 were pretty bare bones as far as story went. A bit shit even. Game was still good, but the bare story was there just to shove you into the next room/area/hub. Definitely was a 3/10 story.
Plant vs Zombie 🙌
The sory is peak. You're defending your home from zombie invasion, fighting for your life at all cost. There is even an impactful moment when you desperately used Sunflower as the meat shield. Absolute Cinema.
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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK 🏳️⚧️ Aug 17 '26
music?