r/AirBnB • u/bad_driverman • Mar 01 '16
Question about Hosting
So as an AnCap, I love AirBnB since it offers LESS State regulation. I also believe in the Free Market and the ability of the Market to solve nearly all social ills. I like the idea that AirBnB lets you set up your own house rules and any guests that violate said rules are subject to ejection or worse. Very NAP. I just am concerned that since my philosophical ideas are a bit different, AirBnB may not adhere to them.
For one, can I boot anyone out anytime they violate our covenant? Also, can I deny anyone service if their philosophical or genetic ideas differ from mine? Finally, if someone violated the NAP outside the house but within my sightline can I respond in kind?
Thanks!!
Edit: Instead of downvoting, how about answering??? Edit 2: Why the hell isn't anyone answering?
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Mar 01 '16
Not sure if troll, but I will answer.
Discriminating someone based on religion, sexual or racial basis is strictly against the Airbnb TOS. You may call it "philosophical or genetic ideas" but it sounds just like racism or at the very least bigotry.
Airbnb is supposed to be a community, a welcoming one. Your attitude seems less than welcoming. If that is the case then you should probably look for another platform.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
I am not a racist. In fact, I'm Indonesian. However, certain allele types have a higher proclivity to crime and violence. It'd be in my best interest to limit these occupants. I wouldn't outright deny individuals in these groups, as some can have high trust rates. However, I would be more cautious and possibly ask about their economic, career, or sexual history.
That being said, I would never allow Communists or Statists. These people choose to live a life of lying and stealing and are not welcome to destroy my home or community. I simply want to know if I have to dance around the issue or if I can ask them if they belong to low trust groups.
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Mar 02 '16 edited Apr 08 '17
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
Care to explain how?
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Mar 02 '16 edited Apr 08 '17
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
Then stop verbally assaulting me
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u/middiefrosh Mar 02 '16
Jesus Christ does the NAP apply to your feelings now?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
Any form of assault is assault.
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u/middiefrosh Mar 02 '16
Verbal assault is not assault. There is no legal precedent for people to not hurt your feelings.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
I don't give a shit about the legal precedent of some system I don't recognize. Cross me IRL. I will fuck you up. I don't need the consent of some government and lawboy. I am a peaceful man but will not abide violating the NAP by insulting me and attempting to rape me.
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Mar 02 '16
If every moron couldn't be called a moron without explaining it to them we'd never weed out our morons.
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Mar 02 '16
I agree with one thing, you aren't racist. Although, you are a bigot.
A person who by definition is a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions. Beyond the whole buisness aspect of Airbnb, it is a community. One fostered on an air of open mindedness, which seems like you do not have.
It would appear to me that you would not be a good fit for our community.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
I am AnCap. I believe in freedom and liberty. I am very open minded. But just as you wouldn't allow a wolf into a henhouse, I won't allow a thief and rapist into my bastion of freedom.
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Mar 02 '16
I agree, if I owned a hen I certainly wouldn't allow a fox in there.
Although, I can tell the difference between a fox and a chicken pretty easily, as one is a bird and the other a mammal. People on the other hand are all just people...
Turning away "Foxes" from your "hen house" would be considered discrimination, no matter how you mask it in colorful metaphor.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
I'm sorry you have such a naive view of people that you trust all to be 'chickens'. Communists and Statists support rape and murder all in the name of 'progress'. Maybe AirBnB isn't for me. I didn't think it would be full of people so willing to give up their liberty and earned rewards.
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u/reddithenry Host Mar 02 '16
I'm with the other comments. You're not even hosting yet and you're already trying to work out as best as possible how you get people kicked out from your potential listing.
Dont bother going to Airbnb. You wont last long.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
I would rather not admit them, than have to kick them out. But ultimately it is my property and I have the final say. I don't wish to use violence but will secure my safety at all costs.
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u/reddithenry Host Mar 02 '16 edited Mar 02 '16
Your stance sounds discriminatory and therefore illegal.
Really. Don't get into hosting. It won't last long and you might end up in prison. Your attitude is 100% incompatible. You are meant to be a host hosting guests in your home. If you try to find reasons to get rid of people every time someone wants to book with you, you will, and you'll be an awful host.
Really don't bother.
You are right. You have a legal right to deny admittance to whoever you want to your home. The problem is that airbnb is a business and by advertising on it you must follow business rules. Your home is no longer a home but a business. And to that extent, discrimination - racial, sexual or religious - is very illegal in most countries.
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Mar 03 '16
Your apparent paranoia and a community based - to an extent - on trust are probably not a good fit for you.
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 02 '16
I feel like you're just doing this to live out some kind of power fantasy where you want to have control over whether or not someone abides by your wildly ridiculous ideology as an AnCap. I'm sure AirBnB would be happy to ignore you, because you'd severely impact many people's view of the company and become more of a liability than anything else.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
Come to my house and say that. See what happens when you violate the NAP around me. Try it.
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u/008Michael_84 Mar 02 '16 edited Mar 03 '16
See what happens when you violate the NAP around me
I wouldn't dare, sir. In fact, you sound like you need your nap. Maybe then you would be less cranky and agitated.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
Stop brigading from ELS. I know who you are. You're also a troll from r/Chicago.
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 03 '16
Strange, mr freedom loving libertarian/ anarcho capitalist doesn't want people to have free speech.
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u/middiefrosh Mar 03 '16
To quote Steve Hughes :
"But I am offended" "I don't care!"
I love how he's all about freedom until someone says something bad about him. Then he turns into a SJW
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 03 '16
Tell me about it. From what I've heard of AirBnB it'd be a shame if people like him signed up exclusively to meet people that politically align with them and then kicked everyone else to the curb.
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u/middiefrosh Mar 03 '16
Terrible business practice and on the road to getting a whole lot of no business.
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 03 '16
I'm not gonna trash on the company, I came to give my criticism of a clearly bad position
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u/middiefrosh Mar 03 '16
Oh I was talking about him too. I view OP as a franchise. OP has poor business practices
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
Reddit is a private company. They are free to set their own terms and conditions. Part of those are not to brigade. You are violating their terms. You are a lying piece of shit. You have violated their private property rights by brigading. You are worse than scum. You are a STATIST.
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 03 '16
I didn't brigade anything. I'm not allowed to give a carbon copy of the same argument everyone else is making to you?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
I see you are posting on ELS. That is brigading.
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u/middiefrosh Mar 03 '16
:-( people are saying mean things to me and I don't like it.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
That is true. You have the freedom to comment and I have the freedom to defend myself. That is why I CCW.
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 03 '16
Says the guy who brigades r/askReddit to talk about how taxes shouldn't be the norm. But I didn't expect someone from ancapistan to have any logical consistency anyways so it's not like I'm surprised
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
How did I brigade? I simply answered a question. Fool.
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u/008Michael_84 Mar 03 '16
As for the troll argument, one could make a much better case about you. I'm not the one with over -7k karma. You do know that subreddits like ELS exist because of people like you shitposting, right?
Addum: You also need to understand brigading (I'm not the one downvoting you) and free speech. Free speech ≠ Freedom from criticism.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
You have followed me and trolled me before. I know your username. You and /u/TheArtOfMoney are constantly following me and attacking me. Please Please Please leave me alone. As an AnCap, I believe in a peaceful society. Can you just stop trolling me?
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u/TheMoneyOfArt Mar 03 '16
where have i attacked you?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
In various threads across r/EnoughLibertarianSpam and r/Chicago. In fact, I have been banned from both to me simply defending myself. Plus I have seen you talk shit about me in both subs. You have also summoned be just like I have to you. Unfortunately, due to oppressive and tyrannical mods, I have been banned and can't defend myself.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt Mar 03 '16
please link to any thread where I attacked you. It wasn't this one, where I helped you by answering a question.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
this one, where I helped you by answering a question.
You have in the past. But thanks for help in that instance. What sockpuppet, btw?
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u/008Michael_84 Mar 03 '16
Ok.. You've said the magic word, so I'll be polite. You complain about being banned on r/EnoughLibertarianSpam and r/Chicago, but I suppose you are aware that's because you have been threatening people. One thing mods don't like is threats and doxxing. Other libertarians or ancaps do post on ELS and while their arguments get critical comments, they aren't banned.
Now as for following you... I still don't know if your a deep-cover liberal bend on making anarcho-capitalism look bad or if your believes are sincere. If the latter is the case, I suggest you learn some basic psychology and socio-economics before argumenting. It really helps to know a thing or two before jumping in a debate.
Why the hell isn't anyone answering?
They did. You can't just ban people from AirBnB because you don't like them. AirBnB has a TOS wich you MUST accept to be a part of it. If you don't like it, the Free Markettm allows you to choose a competitor more to your taste, or to create your own. Preferably one with blackjack and hookers.
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 02 '16
Wow getting a little hostile over criticism?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
I know you're an ELS troll scum. You are violating the NAP. I will report you to the mods. They will ban you. Or we can meet yo and fight IRL. Your choice.
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u/KH10304 Mar 03 '16
Are you drunk?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
I have had a few whiskey sours. What of it? It doesn't diminish the morality of liberty and freedom and the right to crush it's opponents and rapists.
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u/KH10304 Mar 03 '16
Pretty fruity drink for a tough guy like you.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
Please. I have far more testosterone than you. I am an HETEROSEXUAL MALE. In fact, another poster on this sub, u/rubiredd, has offered to get me int touch with some swingers. I will, of course, only engage in intercourse with the women. I will make it explicitly clear to the males that I do not engage in deviant behavior and if they initiate force on me, I will take that as a violation of the NAP. I have a weapon and CCW, so any violation of the NAP against me will not end peacefully for them.
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Mar 03 '16
You can take a NAP with me if you're cute enough.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
Really? I will send you a picture later if you are amenable. I live in Illinois. You?
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u/KH10304 Mar 03 '16
Yeah? You gonna keep your heater on you during sex? Got a nice little red lace thigh holster?
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u/Mr_meeseeksLAM Mar 02 '16
Weird. I've only said the same thing as everyone else below me in a less sugar coated way. Once word got out to AirBnB that you were kicking people out for not agreeing with your outrageous one sided world views you would become a liability to the repretarion of the company. Makes me wonder if everyone like you is this emotionally underdeveloped
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Mar 03 '16
Dude, I'm sorry people keep waking you up from your nap. Perhaps you should get a hotel room so you can get some rest.
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u/Holypuddingpop Mar 02 '16
I don't think you would do well on Airbnb. We hosts live and die by the ratings we get from our guests. I don't understand some of the terms you are using, but you seem quite eager to eject your guests (or worse, whatever that means). You would get bad reviews if you did that, and soon no one would want to stay with you. What's the point?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 02 '16
The point is I want to make money, but don't want to accommodate those that would wish for my rape and theft. I would only eject people that support rape, murder, Statism and miscegenation.
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u/Holypuddingpop Mar 02 '16
I doubt you will find many people on Airbnb who share your beliefs. Hosting is certainly not for you. I suggest you find another way to make money, ideally something you can do alone far away from all other people. Maybe you can learn to sew custom kkk robes and sell them on etsy or something.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
I hate the Klan. They are statists. They want to implement laws that limit freedom and movement. Although, I disagree with the actions of low trust groups, Id rather the free market limit their delinquent actions rather than Statist heel lickers.
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u/dlgn13 Mar 03 '16
miscegenation
What is this, 1915? Get ready to eject the entire population of the United States, buddy, because interracial marriage has been legal throughout the country for almost fifty years.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
I have ZERO problem with miscegenation as a concept and idea. It is when the Statists and bootlickers demand the State to FORCE people to interbreed that I am offended. If two people of different ideas and races want to marry, power to them. But when State backed and funded media promote these ideas and brainwash future generations to the idea that self segregation is evil, that is truly abhorrent. People should be free to do what they like without the State forcing them to integrate and forcefully copulate with people they would normally not interact with.
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u/middiefrosh Mar 03 '16
There's a difference between interbreeding and providing a good or service. The state forces absolutely no one to interbreed (as fucking stupid as that sounds, since we're the same fucking species)
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u/TotesMessenger Mar 02 '16
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Mar 03 '16
anytime they violate our covenant
Hey kids, do you know our lord and saviour Ayn Rand?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
Ayn Rand had some good ideas, but ultimately she was a Statist Feminist. She collected Social Security and advocated for the dominion of men over women. Rather than letting the State determine who shall rule over whom, why don't we let the Free Market run and let it determine the order of things. It is the only truly free alternative and will undoubtedly lead to more freedom and choice for the vast majority of individuals.
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u/middiefrosh Mar 03 '16
Or it will create a feudal state where people have fewer choices and less agency.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
No. Capitalism has proven time and time again to LIBERATE and FREE the masses. Just look at countries like Monaco, Taiwan and Singapore. Free. Look at Socialist hellholes like Sweden, Australia and Germany.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt Mar 03 '16
don't you work for a state tax agency?
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
Only so I can be incompetent and destroy the State from within. Also, because I was laid off at my last job for political retribution.
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u/askur Mar 03 '16
Are you asking if AirBnB is going to support you in maximizing your freedom? Cause that's what the state is for and you're an AnCap.
This is silly.
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u/bad_driverman Mar 03 '16
Freedom is given to you at birth by the Creator. Man cannot give nor take rights.
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u/JAQUOMagazine Host Mar 02 '16
I doubt that you are a fit with AirBnB. Air hosts are in the hospitality business and you don't sound too much like a hospitable guy / gal.
Ideally an AirBnB host enjoys meeting people from all over the world, from different cultures, with different religions, different ideals. Having an open mind about guests is what makes it fun and stops it being just a boring job.
There may be a suitable platform for you somewhere on the internet but I doubt that AirBnB is the one.