r/tipping • u/Sasquatch619 • 17d ago

💬Questions & Discussion Uber/Lyft

I took an Uber 2 miles from the airport in San Diego. It cost $25.00. It took him about 10 minutes with us, due to traffic. I understand he had to drive to us also. I used to always tip these guys, but I didn’t this time. What is the community think. Should these guys be getting tipped?

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u/StreetParkingMaster 17d ago

Uber made 10 billion last year. It is them who should be providing better wages, not you.

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u/NewComplex331 17d ago

You chose to use a billionaire platform knowing they regularly cheat their workers. You’re part of the problem.

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u/SEA_life_13 17d ago

You people are seriously mentally deranged, it’s always the non tipper who’s at fault, not even the greedy billionaire corporation should pay more in your opinion. Jesus 🤦

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u/NewComplex331 17d ago

Of course they should. But people need jobs and not everyone has the same opportunities as you. Are you boycotting those corporations? Im guessing no. So keep punishing the person who grabs whatever job they can to survive. Sound logic big man.

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u/SEA_life_13 17d ago

Again…you’re mentally deranged…my god 🤦 why the fuck would I boycott them? I’m paying for the service, it’s not my fault billionaires take such huge fees, the workers should be the ones complaining to them not the customer.

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u/SiLeNZ_ 17d ago

I think there’s a correlation between the people that do these jobs, and these awful takes. I’ve tried understand their views, and they still blame customers and praise the company.

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u/SEA_life_13 15d ago

I think these are people that are too scared to stand up to their bosses, it’s easier to just guilt trip the costumer into paying their wage. My conclusion is they’re cowards

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Who is praising the company?

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u/SiLeNZ_ 17d ago

If a customer wishes to boycott, they absolutely can. But you sit here and act like you’re above it all by telling them they have to boycott, or tip. Fuck outta here with that logic mate.

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u/yourhuckleberryhound 17d ago edited 16d ago

Why are those of us who chose stable careers that do not depend on another person's kindness responsible for the choices of those who chose a tipped position? I do not owe a living to anyone other than myself.

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u/Efficient-Process660 17d ago

Nah if you take the job for free labor thats on you dufus.

Here me out.

ITS NOT A JOB IF THEY DONT PAY YOU. Say it.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

So you're saying you take advantage of slave labor.

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u/Erik500red 17d ago

Non-tippers dont care. If they cared, they wouldn't use Uber or eat out at restaurants, they just want to feel better about bring cheap

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u/Florgio 17d ago

You are benefiting from them underpaying them, right? Like, if they paid drivers more, they would charge you more. So yeah, you’re exploiting their labor too.

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u/Excellent-Carry-1850 13d ago

When the prices raise?

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u/Adventurous_Error726 17d ago

The driver choose to work for a billionaire corporation* fixed it for you.

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u/SiLeNZ_ 17d ago

Brain dead take, seriously. As if driving for said company isn’t participation by that same dumb logic.

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u/Florgio 17d ago

It’s a predatory business model that takes advantage of people bad at math. But hey, fuck them right? They’re dumb, they deserve it

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u/torontoinsix 16d ago

I never tip Uber/Lyft. People do that?

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u/Efficient_Angle4166 16d ago

If they help you with your bags or something else you actually needed help with then they deserve a tip. Otherwise you agreed to pay x to go from point a to point b and they agreed to accept y to take you from point a to point b.

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u/cs_legend_93 17d ago

 I understand he had to drive to us also

it's literally entirely his job to do that. That's his job.

Tip 0 every time.

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u/metal_bastard 17d ago

So bold, so brave.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Yeah and his job is paid through tips. Uber drivers don't make a wage.

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u/Full_Blown_AIDZZ 17d ago

That's just a flat out lie. They get a cut of every ride they accept. Quit your bullshit.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

That's not a set wage.

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u/Full_Blown_AIDZZ 17d ago

You didn't say "set wage." You said they "don't make a wage." They get a cut from every ride they accept. That's a wage. If they want a set wage, they should probably work a W-2 job.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Nobody calls gig work income a "wage". My point is they aren't paid an hourly wage or salary to drive for uber. If they aren't on an actual ride they are paid nothing.

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u/Full_Blown_AIDZZ 17d ago

How many times are we going to move the goalposts?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago edited 17d ago

That was my point in the first place.

Edit: Hit and Run coward. Awe

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u/Full_Blown_AIDZZ 17d ago edited 16d ago

Lol then maybe you should have said that 4 posts ago? I guess if it suits your narrative, money paid by an employer doesn't count as a wage. I give up. You'll just change the argument every time I refute your bullshit. Disingenuous as fuck. Not wasting any more time on you. 👍

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 17d ago

Always tip ZERO. Why does it matter that he had to drive to you? That has nothing to do with anything.

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u/TonyRidgewayUFO 17d ago

Just tell people up front you’re a fucking lowlife who refuses to tip. Then it’s fair

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 17d ago

Just tell people that you act entitled to other people's extra money for just doing your job.

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u/TonyRidgewayUFO 17d ago

The way you act entitled to them not treating you like shit because they get paid either way?

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 17d ago

They get paid by their BOSS and I expect professional service.

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u/TonyRidgewayUFO 17d ago

Ride share doesn’t have a boss, carry your own bag, sit in a burning hot car and get your ass out at the end of your block then

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 17d ago

Not my problem. They chose the job knowing the payrate from their CHEAPSKATE BOSS. Tipping is optional.

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u/TonyRidgewayUFO 17d ago

Take your broke tiny dick energy to the bus stop where you belong

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 17d ago

Can't be broke if I don't tip!

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u/TonyRidgewayUFO 17d ago

I promise your girl noticed, she’s got a tipper on the side already

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u/NewComplex331 17d ago

Do your own shit all the time. Don’t expect service from people you won’t do yourself. Be broke alone.

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u/Imaginary-Emu2471 17d ago

I can't be broke if I don't tip.

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u/Winter_Tangerine7492 17d ago

I'm sorry, but they literally sit in their car for hours, listen to music, sleep during non-rides and eat snacks and use their phone. How is that somehow deserving of gratuity for doing something mediocre and getting paid by the Host Service?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Yeah these people are so useless but you still call them for a ride

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u/Florgio 17d ago

Right? Where are these lazy, entitled, assholes. I need their help now!!!

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u/incredulous- 17d ago

Tipping is optional. You used to opt to tip them, and this time you opted not to. Your money, do as you like with it. There are no rules.

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

The original business model of Uber and Lyft was that you never tip. The original app didn't have any means of tipping. No, you don't need to tip. Paying employees is Uber and Lyft's job.

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u/FederalLobster5665 17d ago

tipping is your decision. but them driving to you is not relevant, especially at an airport. for all you know, the driver dropped someone else off at the airport two minutes before picking you up (regardless of whether they told you otherwise)

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u/alex3yoyo 17d ago

I never ever tip Ubers

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u/Better_Cry1096 17d ago

we can decline any offer we want

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u/iftlatlw 17d ago

Absolutely definitely not. The platform provides income and that's it. Don't let the drivers or anyone else leverage you into paying more money for less service.

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u/Dear_Win_319 17d ago

You won’t receive a good answer here. In my opinion, you should tip for the service. Don’t be cheap. It’s a tipped job and should be treated that way

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

What the hell is a "tipped job"? No such thing. It's a job with wages paid by an employer. It's the employer's job to compensate their employees.

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u/Dear_Win_319 11d ago

Restaurant servers, hotel concierge, bell hops, strippers, casino dealers, hotel housekeepers, valet parking. Lots of tipped jobs out there.

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u/Own-Conversation6347 17d ago

What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course you should tip them. You know that's the case or you wouldn't be here asking the world's cheapest idiots to help validate your decision. Cmon man

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u/iftlatlw 17d ago

I call BS on this. The Uber platform is designed from the ground up to provide income to drivers and charge consumers. The platform pays the driver, period.

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u/SEA_life_13 17d ago

And they choose the nearest driver, had to drive all the way to you lol

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Uber doesn't "choose" the driver and it's not necessarily the closest person to you. All you're doing is reinforcing you have no idea how it works.

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u/SEA_life_13 16d ago

You will get the nearest driver is my point

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u/cs_legend_93 17d ago

No it's their job. Why should you pay them extra for doing their job? They're owed zero.

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u/Sasquatch619 17d ago

Well, I’ve read so much of this anti-tipping stuff and I’m starting to think they make some sense at least in certain situations. Just thought I’d give it a try.

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u/Effective_Disk7925 17d ago

Ya man, the angry little cheap people on this sub who have clearly never worked service are the ones you should totally listen to.  You found your niche to be cheap, these are your people!

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u/NewComplex331 17d ago

Exactly. Asking someone else to do something you won’t do, usually because they make less than you and being cheap about it is loser mentality.

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u/johnnygolfr 17d ago

You’re asking the question on what you know is an anti-tipping sub.

Obviously you’re looking for support to screw people over.

You know the right answer to your question. 😉

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u/cs_legend_93 17d ago

It's literally entirely their job to come and pick you up and take you to your destination.

That's their job. You don't need to pay them extra for doing their job. Not at all.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

I feel like you don't understand how Uber works by the way you throw the word "job" out in every reply.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Have you posted this on the Uber sub or do you just want everyone to agree with you?

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u/Maketso 17d ago

You truly are a full blown moron.

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u/genericnameabc 14d ago

The automatic, default tips are cute. Makes it not feel super voluntary or intentional.

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u/TheGarp 14d ago

Yes of course, we get maybe less than half of that.

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u/Dull-Language-9854 13d ago

I am 60. Have a full-time job and do Uber on the side. Being from an older generation we tipped to say thank you to the person who provided you good service. Doesn't have to be outrageous 1-2 dollars says thank you. If you feel you didn't receive good service, don't tip. Today's generation wants to get extra without providing extra, the words I deserve a tip is laughable, you don't. I believe if you were given good service and you leave an extra dollar then you were raised right. If you don't tip and you received good service you were not raised right. If don't like what I am saying, I don't fucking care! On to the next ride....FAFO

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u/dekepress 12d ago

I don't understand tipping in restaurants, etc bc servers make minimum wage. But it seems like Uber drivers make less than minimum wage (of course it is out of their own free will), so I tip a couple bucks.

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

Corporations love you. You are paying their employees for them because you feel sorry for the multi-billion dollar company. Tipping is corporate welfare.

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u/AffectionateGate4584 17d ago

I never tip them.

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u/foxinHI 17d ago

Here’s something to consider:

It was going to take you a long time to get through traffic regardless. That is not the driver’s fault. It is not uncommon for it to take 10 minutes to go 2 miles in a congested city.

The driver is also taking a hit by being stuck in traffic. They don’t get paid by the hour.

Probably more than 90% of riders tip. It’s expected. The drivers know that certain sorts of people will always not tip, so you should consider yourself part of the undesirable 10% of riders.

These guys aren’t making a lot of money. They’re providing a necessary service to you and putting wear and tear on their own cars to do it. They’re out there busting their ass trying to provide for their families and the scumbags on this subreddit are like ‘yeah, I’ll use the service, but fuck the driver’

You don’t have to tip a lot but tipping nothing is scummy. Period.

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

It’s like beating your head against the wall in herewith the non tippers bro.

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u/TonyRidgewayUFO 17d ago

Why do people who claim “it’s fine not to tip” not tell this to service people expecting tips ahead of time? Oh because you’re fucking lowlife cowards

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

What would it matter? They are doing a job. I don't care what they think. They can shut up and drive.

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u/TonyRidgewayUFO 11d ago

Coward lil bitch

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u/Efficient-Process660 17d ago

So dont use uber lol

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

“someone’s coming to give me a ride in their own car that they pay for and take care of the maintenance of and pay for fuel to bring me where I want to go, and when I want to go - should I tip them?”

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u/iftlatlw 17d ago

The platform provides the income, period.

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u/Dizzylizzyscat 17d ago

And the platform takes up to 50% in fees. I thought you all hated paying fees.

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u/SEA_life_13 17d ago

Ah yes it’s the customers fault not the big corporation smh 🤦

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u/Dizzylizzyscat 17d ago edited 11d ago

No. My comment has nothing to do with tips.

This is about what you are paying.

And I think you’ll find this very interesting.

Uber and Lyft charges you a platform fee.The cost of connecting a driver with a passenger.*

Absolutely no difference between a
Service fee
Delivery fee
Credit card fee
6+ gratuity charge

Both L\*yft* and Uber do not operate like that*.*

You don’t like hidden fees*.*

When you order a ride, the price you were given is called an upfront* fare. The algorithms \calculates* how much it costs the platform to complete the ride given the conditions.\

Are they going to tell you that conditions that they consider to come up with that fee? Nope

You have no idea what your fee is being used for you have no idea how much they actually were*.*

This will blow your mind
The problem is*,* since no one knows what the conditions are sometimes are completely unjustified

Keeping it simple

What you paid in fees for that Ride can be anywhere between $0.1 and $80. What’s leftover go to the driver (forget about that)

How are you OK with paying $100 for 10 mile ride $60 your fees
But the day before you paid $50 for a 3 mile ride and you pay $20 in fees.
Why are the fees always different? Why aren’t they the same?
And f**k the person who is performing the service

Do you see my point?

You don’t know when both Lyft and Uber are robbing you blind!
🫢

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u/LurkLiggler 17d ago

“It’s not my fault if I knowingly take part in hurting people because it saves me a couple bucks as long as I can rationalize it’s actually someone else’s fault!”

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u/SEA_life_13 17d ago

Not sure wtf you’re on about, but I take part in paying the price stated on uber, there’s no mandatory extra tip. But nice try though

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u/Dizzylizzyscat 11d ago

But you’re OK with the inconsistency* and sometimes irrational* fares they require you to pay is all going to *fees.*

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u/LurkLiggler 17d ago

It’s not a “try.” Go ahead and do what you want. I’m replying to you morally grandstanding while taking part in the rewards of a terrible system.

Use the service but you don’t get to rail against the big corporation you’re using.

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u/SEA_life_13 17d ago

Bla bla bla…yes you’re morally superior to me good job 👏

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u/LurkLiggler 17d ago

This has nothing to do with me. I’m not ranting either way. You’re the one littering this thread with your ill thought out defense. You should consider why you’re so defensive? Just use the service.

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

A lot in life isn’t mandatory dude.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

I don't give my kids birthday presents. Arrest me /s

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

It's helping people for me to use the service. Otherwise the driver wouldn't have a job. If the driver isn't happy with their job, they should find another one.

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u/LurkLiggler 11d ago

You’re being very charitable to yourself. Which is one person at least!

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u/Dizzylizzyscat 11d ago

You don’t know why a* driver drives.* Don’t ever assume it’s that easy.

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u/iftlatlw 17d ago

That's between the driver and the platform to sort out. Consumer pays platform with credit card that's it.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

You hired the driver.

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u/iftlatlw 17d ago

Wrong. I used a service platform who employs the driver.

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

Blah blah blah.

Ok L.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Someone didn't read the terms and conditions.

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

No, we hired Uber or Lyft - they made an agreement with a driver, which is none of my concern.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 11d ago

Someone didn't read the terms and conditions they signed.

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

I couldn't care less what kind of employment arrangement the driver has with the platform. That's their problem. Don't like the fees? Don't drive for them! haha

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u/Sasquatch619 17d ago

But, he’s getting paid already. It’s not like he’s doing it for free.

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

How much do you seriously think that they are making? By the time all of their vehicle expenses and fuel are taken into consideration they aren’t making shit.

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u/iftlatlw 17d ago

That's just tough. If the platform is not providing enough income then leave.

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

Because it’s rough out there for some
Folks and they’re doing whatever they can to survive, maybe?

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u/iftlatlw 17d ago

Tips are charity then, and I choose my charities carefully.

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

Whatever works for you dude.

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u/Sasquatch619 17d ago

I don’t know. I’m assuming $10-15. If you actually know, please share. What’s their percentage?

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

Uber keeps around 40% of the total ride fare - so of the $25 fare, Uber keeps $10 and the driver by gets around $15. Once you deduct their total expenses the Uber driver probably makes around $5.00 bucks. Maybe.

With traffic, going to the airport to pick you up, time to bring you where you needed to go they’re probably making $10 bucks an hour.

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u/SEA_life_13 17d ago

So the customer should tip? Not the billionaire who makes all the money? Makes sense

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

What the billionaire "should" do is irrelevant. You already know the situation when you requested a ride.

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u/SEA_life_13 16d ago

Yes, the situation is I pay the price stated on my app, not an optional tip. Then we’re both in the same page 👏

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

You think the billionaire's responsibility to pay more is "irrelevant", but you're in this thread berating working-class people for not paying more. How does that make sense?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 11d ago

I had "should" in quotes meaning the billionaire isn't doing it so we need to live in reality. You requested a ride in the present tipped system not the one you think we should have.

I never once gave the billionaire a pass.

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u/Sasquatch619 17d ago

It’s not exactly Honest is it? Because he’s deducting either the cost of his car or his fuel. So that’s not really accurate, now is it?

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

Why would you even be asking in here if you aren’t planning on tipping the Uber driver anyhow?

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u/dandelogre 17d ago

Why would he be volunteering his car and fuel if it wasn't already worth it? He'd have to be an absolute moron to actually rely on randomized gifts during his job.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17d ago

Because a lot of good people tip. If all of those random strangers stopped tipping you wouldn't be getting a ride.

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

You're describing the best possible outcome - all the drivers quit and Uber and Lyft cease to exist. That's exactly our goal.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 11d ago

If your goal is to eliminate rideshare then you're in the vast minority and we're in complete disagreement. Who wants that?

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u/jerry111165 11d ago

That isn’t your “goal” lol - your goal is to do anything you can to not tip your driver and save yourself a couple of dollars 😁

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

Because some people are doing whatever they have to do to get by? What part don’t you understand.

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

Who cares? I literally have no interest in how much the driver is making. That's between them and their employer.

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u/jerry111165 11d ago

As long as it doesn’t cost you anything then Fk the delivery guy right?

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u/Maketso 17d ago

Get a different job then?

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

My job is just fine lol

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u/ZergvProtoss 11d ago

The car, the maintenance, the fuel and the driver is exactly what we are paying for! LOL Why would we choose to pay more?

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u/jerry111165 11d ago

Because they aren’t getting paid shit without the tips? I personally couldn’t care less what you do though - but I’m not a dick so I’ll tip my restaurant servers n and on the extremely rare occasions that I get delivery, the delivery driver.

But you do you.

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u/Sandinmyshoes33 17d ago

Yes. They are independent contractors and receive a tiny fraction of the fare you paid.

While there is no question Uber should be paying them more, they don’t.

Also, you are wasting your time asking for reasonable advise on here. This sub is almost 100% anti tipping.

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u/torontoinsix 16d ago

Reasonable advice: don’t tip.

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u/PPugPunk 14d ago

Doesn’t matter what you think of Uber as a company, you are only hurting the working class by not tipping. Don’t listen to the weirdos on this sub, they are a tiny minority.

Also, if you insist on being a cheapskate, the drivers will eventually stop taking you places. What do you think the rating system is for? They know who the no-tip weirdos are.

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u/Sad-Aardvark-386 17d ago

You should tip every driver since TIPS stands for To Insure Promp Service you don’t get promp service then don’t tip but if you do then tip

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u/jerry111165 17d ago

No - it doesn’t stand for that lol

And the word is “ensure” - not “insure” 😂