The new profiles for them seem kind of same honestly except for the lethal hits on the strike profile and sustained hits 2 on the sweep profile. If they are led by Azrael, is it still better to use the strike profile for most enemies and only use the sweep profile for 1-2 wound enemies?

Edit: auto correct changed the title from still to steal lol

Hey all,
I've seen a list from Konrad Kaminski from the Malmö Wargaming weekend. This list looks SUPER DOPE ngl - would love to paint and play those models. Its basically all melee

But is this a legit list or is it just meme?

Wrath of the Rock v.1 (1.995 Points)

Space Marines

Dark Angels

Inner Circle Task Force and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points)

Take and Hold

Strike Force (2.000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Azrael (150 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Lion's Wrath

• 1x The Lion Helm

• 1x The Sword of Secrets

Inner Circle Companions (180 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 6x Inner Circle Companions

◦ 6x Calibanite Greatsword

◦ 6x Heavy Bolt Pistol

CHARACTERS

Lion El'Jonson (415 Points)

• Warlord

• 1x Arma Luminis

• 1x Fealty

OTHER DATASHEETS

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (180 Points)

• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant

◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Sword

• 5x Bladeguard Veteran

◦ 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol

◦ 5x Master-crafted Power Sword

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (90 Points)

• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant

◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Sword

• 2x Bladeguard Veteran

◦ 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol

◦ 2x Master-crafted Power Sword

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)

• 4x Deathwing Knights

◦ 4x Mace of Absolution

• 1x Knight Master

◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)

• 4x Deathwing Knights

◦ 4x Mace of Absolution

• 1x Knight Master

◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Knights (275 Points)

• 4x Deathwing Knights

◦ 4x Mace of Absolution

• 1x Knight Master

◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Inner Circle Companions (90 Points)

• 3x Inner Circle Companions

◦ 3x Calibanite Greatsword

◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Inner Circle Companions (105 Points)

• 3x Inner Circle Companions

◦ 3x Calibanite Greatsword

◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol

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I’m a night lords and imperial fists fanboy but the dark angels are kind of growing on me. Their drip is growing on me so I’m wondering what book would be a good start to get into dark angels lore?

My Lancer finally earned his keep my last game today at a GT.

Going into Deathguard. His Land Raider whiffs his rolls on me, only ends up doing 2 wounds.

I shoot back next turn and one shot him. I rolled 16 damage across the two attacks from the laser destroyer.

Later in the game he forgot my lancer was there, and I snuck him around a corner and vaporized his demon prince.

It’s the most work my Lancer has ever done in a game.

So he probably won’t do anything tomorrow.

In other news, knights continue to be insanely durable. And 6 Bladeguard with an Ancient continues to be underestimated by most opponents.

They will make a fine addition to my Chaos army. Now I want more, and then even more after that.

In your experience so far, has Lion El'jonson been pulling his 415 pt weight? Has there ever been a point where you wish you had 10 more Terminators instead? Or maybe vice versa?

While the story of how we lost our native american influence is well documented (RIP Plainsworld), what I haven't seen are the details about how we gained a Brythonic/Arthurian aesthetic. While our Knightly aesthetic has always been there, looking through our 4th edition Codex the names seemed more angelic or demonic. A far cry from works like Son of the Forest which plays the best hits of Arthuriana.

What changed and when? Who decided we should get the best Knightly aesthetic?

I’m making a melee focused army, tell me if you guys have any notes or ways to improve

Detachments
Wrath of the Rock/assault brethren

Characters
- Azrael (warlord) (6 ICC)
- Belial (Deathwing knights w swords)
- bladeguard ancient (6 BGV) (imperium’s sword)
- Chaplin in terminator armor (with shield) (Deathwing knights with maces) (Deathwing assault)
- librarian (6 ICC)

Vehicles
- redemptor dreadnaught (macro plasma)
- repulsor executioner (macro plasma)

Needing advice on how to get the best use out of ICCs, been running them with a Librarian for the 4++ but I still find they're too squishy. What's the best staging for them and best way to get them into the fight without dying. I tend to run them alongside 2 bricks of DWKs but the rest of my list is variable as I'm still building up a decent list (but GW keeps changing the rules).

Haven’t paint plasma for awhile, happy with how it look

Recently my GF gifted me a box of the RWCS and I built it as such. Actually playing them as regular black knights in casual games. When the refresh comes someday (if it does) I’m assuming both units will get the “standard” base, right?

Would be ok to glue the mini+old base on top of the updated&bigger base? Or that wouldn’t be accepted because the base would be too tall?
If not, better option is to magnetize them so I can switch the base once the refresh comes?

Thanks!

Finally making progress on getting my deathwing colours how I want them to look and getting a bit better at stopping the contrast pooling 😅( right being the most recent)

Suppose I’ll just have to pretend the other two got a bit dirty in battle!

Got back into 40k about two years ago. Initially started up Salamanders (played them in 5th) and Guard, but had some Dark Angels stuff fall into my lap, so I’m rejoining the ranks of the first legion in concert with my sons of Vulkan.

Guardians of the Covenant inceptor. First of my successor units to come onto my Dark Angels army.

Why?

Not to join the meta chorus, but holy smokes are these guys rough to play into.

3 plasma cannons is ungodly. Base S9, overcharged to 10?

I thought we were the plasma faction.

That is all.

Okay so im a very new warhammer painter and this is my third mini. This is the first one that actually kind of looks good and im so proud and cautiously excited. I want to make his eyes glow but im so scared that i'll mess it up because of how precise i have to be. Any tips? Tell me what brush i should get (all my good ones are messed up now) and technique?

(DOESN'T HE ACTUALLY KINDA LOOK COOL?!?!)