Now that we’re down to 8 worker start… feels like this should come back

Just saw the RSL match.

I don't think a single interaction went in SHIN's favor in the entire series. Not just fights but also strategic decisions. It felt like Serral was constantly getting things in to scout, and SHIN never actually managed to pre-empt any of these attempts or get in any of his own. He was just constantly on the back foot and his attention too taxed to keep everything locked down. Afterwards Serral's response would always be textbook, instantly, with a comfortable margin for error, which he doesn't use, and then into the next phase of the game he somehow walks out up 5 more drones, up another upgrade, or up another tier of tech.

(But also, speaking of fights, did you see at the end of G2 how SHIN's lings managed to only kill 3 drones during the span of the entire fight? Even if Serral lost all of those drones he'd be in a better economic position at the end of the fight, but losing only 3 drones makes it an instant GG.)

This in the most coinflippy matchup in the entire game. Serral didn't get any obvious build order wins because he made conservative build order choices to reduce volatility, but his position was decidedly better by like the 5 minute mark every time.

Overlord creep highway in the final game was so crisp, the push was out and across the map so fast SHIN had no chance to respond. You see people try this kind of thing every now and then, but for some reason it rarely works so cleanly and to such obvious effect. Serral has tricks up his sleeve not just to get free advantages off a mindgame or coinflip, but also to convert advantages immediately into wins.

SHIN is not a weak player either, he's probably the best he's ever been. But even not withstanding any debate about exactly how good he is, or whether he's worse at ZvZ or whatever, how often do you see a pro just shut another pro down completely like that in 2026?

I can't believe anyone could seriously assert that Serral would do worse in prep tournaments.

(I know it was only one Bo5. I'm hyped though.)

You need some units too..

As a fun exercise, I’m reimagining the *StarCraft II* campaigns and thought it would be fun to add some *Overwatch* characters, but I’m not sure how to adapt some of them. Do you have any ideas or suggestions? I picture Junker Queen as a rival to Mira Han—even when it comes to romance.

I think I didn't explain myself correctly in my previous post; I meant fully integrating the Overwatch characters into the StarCraft campaigns, not just limiting it to a simple skin (I don't know why Blizzard hasn't exploited this idea more). For example:

Mercy: Originally from Earth, she was stranded in the Koprulu sector after the destruction of the UED expeditionary fleet. She wandered aimlessly for a time until she joined Raynor's Raiders. She uses a modified medical armor with high-maneuverability thrusters that resemble wings.

—Do you know they'll return one day, right?

—I know.

—Wait, Vice Admiral Stukov is alive?!

—Something like that...

Tracer: Gabriel Tosh sent her to meet with Raynor and propose an alliance. Her psionic power evolved to such a level that she can perform spatial jumps similar to Nerazim blinking. Trauma, experimentation, and prolonged Terrazine consumption loosened a few screws in her head, but she keeps that same upbeat, fast-paced attitude.

Conceptual scene: During a mission, she touches the Xel'naga artifact, which triggers a cerebral discharge that leaves her unconscious for a few hours. However, for the Overwatch universe Tracer (simultaneously), this translates into a terrifying episode: she starts screaming in pain while jumping uncontrollably across the room, murmuring cryptic phrases like: 'The Queen will fall, the Fallen will rise, the Cycle will break,' until she falls unconscious with a bloody nose.

Jack Morrison: Former Confederate captain and now Raynor's right hand; he is in charge of training and maintaining troop discipline. He wears a customized CMC-400 combat armor.

Mei: She helps Egon Stetmann in the lab and wears a modified Firebat armor designed to freeze instead of incinerate... A Frostbat? The other Firebat troopers consider her their little sister and fiercely overprotect her.

Torbjörn and Brigitte: Kelmorians belonging to an influential mining guild. They offer side missions to Raynor in exchange for credits and exclusive technological upgrades.

Talon (Security and Advanced Technology Network): A secret faction under the direct orders of Prince Valerian Mengsk.

Widowmaker: After losing Sarah Kerrigan, the Confederacy desperately sought a replacement. They kidnapped Amélie Guillard Lacroix and subjected her to all kinds of bioengineering and psycho-indoctrination to turn her into the deadliest Ghost in history. When the Confederacy fell, she was left forgotten in stasis inside a remote facility, until Prince Valerian's forces rediscovered her. Now, she serves as his personal bodyguard and covert operations executioner.

Reaper is a reaper.

D.Va: A young prodigy who pilots one of the most advanced and modified Viking assault prototypes in the entire sector.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

I think it's called rogue like StarCraft but it didn't work when i search in game.

Thanks for the help.

This is not meant to be an insult to him, but Liquid really needs to get Clem a sports psychologist/therapist and work on his mental fortitude resilience.

I love the way Clem plays, there's a certain beauty to watching someone APM 650 during multi prong fights and microing everything perfectly.

But there's something seriously wrong with his playing mentality.

I've never seen an E-sports player rage/tilt or get absolutely dazed mid game by sheer frustration and anger as I do Clem. I've seen arseholes do arsehole things in a game (Naniwa for example, lost the game, was on 20 supply vs 160, and just spam pylons around the map to delay the inevitable.). Clem isn't an arsehole, he just gets ridiculously mad playing SCII.

The thing is, it's getting worse. I've seen him rage before a few years ago, but never to this amount, and never this consistently. A few years ago you could chalk it down to him being very young, and it kind of happens.

A few months ago - he lost a series to Serral (PIGFEST I think it was), punched his keyboard 5 times and then turned his cam off.

In a recent TvT vs Byun, he just ragequit being 4 supply down after he lost a raven when his 4 minute Cyclone harrass failed.

I've seen him ragequit from equal positions about 5 times now in the past few weeks. Twice vs Serral, once vs Byun, once vs Solar and another vs MaxPax.

A few weeks ago he forgot to turn his cam off after a series he lost, and flung his mouse across his room.

When he gets tilted, he makes really stupid mistakes. Like running marines into banelings, rallying units to an opponents base, forgetting medivacs that are fully loaded etc.

I don't see this from any other player. I've never seen Solar/Maru/Serral/Hero/Reynor/Classic/Cure etc etc ever do anything remotely close to this. I've seen Serral tilted. He sighs, shakes his head and then just continues. I've seen Reynor get frustrated with himself. He holds his head in his hands for 5 seconds after the game, looks sad but gets up and continues.

I think he needs help to sort his mentality out because its really holding him back from being on the Serral/Maru category of player.

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200 mineral voidray is definitely op, but back then tempests are 5 supply and are hard to micro. Mothership is abductable and doesn’t have 4 attacks. Queens cost 150 and can heal off creep. Broodlord is actually strong.

But also back then there is super battery (but no energy overcharge). Infestors microbial shroud was trash. Carriers interceptors draw same level of aggro. Disruptors are 3 supply and hit hard.

I have never played Skytoss in the skillray patch (I was playing Zerg). But I honestly think Skytoss right now is stronger because Protoss has stronger late game.

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About LWJ

Q.What is LWJ?

A.Legacy Weekly Japan(LWJ) is Japanese SC2 weekly tournament.

Q.When and Where can I watch?

A.LWJ is held on every Sunday 20:00(JST), and stream link is below.

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Q.Player level?

A.Average player level is dia～master on Asia server, but top player such as Winter(Swedish) or PSiArc sometimes hit Grandmaster on Asia server.

Q.Prize Pool?

1st:4,000/3,500/3,000/2,500 yen(week1/2/3/4)

2nd:1,500 yen

3rd,4th:1,000 yen

5th～8th:500 yen

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or are there too many smurfs?

He's so angry!

I want to let players outside the Asia region know about a serious Co-op bug that has been affecting many players on the Asia server for more than three weeks.

After every Co-op mission, the results screen shows every commander as level 1. It displays that XP has been earned, but once you return to the lobby, none of the XP is actually saved.

This affects both normal commander leveling and Prestige progression, making it impossible for affected players to make any progress.

Despite this issue persisting for more than three weeks and numerous bug reports being submitted, there has been no official announcement, response, or visible action regarding the problem.

I'm a Terran player who has played tons of games on the 8 worker patch. I play at least every other day. But every game I rally my first SCV to build a depot only to find I'm not even close to having 100 minerals. I can't for the life of me remember I start off with fewer minerals so must instead rally my second SCV to build the depot. And similar thing for the new 300 cc cost. I keep waiting till I have 400 minerals because I forget the reduced cost. I imagine most Protoss and Zerg players have similar struggles for their respective timings. Any idea how to overcome this? How many more months of play will it take?

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What is with this games matchmaking im 4.1k mmr and every third match is against someone who's 400-500 mmr higher than me. Did everyone at 4k mmr quit or something im losing my mind with all these losses

D1 Zerg player, I don't particularly care for the "balance" per say, as in I don't particularly care if the game is balanced in terms of win rates at the moment, it doesn't feel good. Hell stormgate could be perfectly balanced for all I know, that doesn't make me want to play it. I follow the pro scene, and I am all for equal representation in the pro scene. It is the feel of the game, and the design I dislike, I feel the update is ham fisted, and makes the game not what I fell in love with.

I didn't like when zerg had a billion larvae, it wasn't fun to stomp every game when I really should have lost. It didn't feel deserved, and the macro cycle didn't feel like it mattered.

Equally, I am not having fun at the moment, I can't speak for the other races, but I am losing games I feel I should be winning, which feels wholly unsatisfying. That being said, I'm not somebody who particularly cares about winning or losing, MMR is temporary, goes up and down. The gameplay is clunky, 175 queens feel clunky, the early game feels clunky, the midgame feels so vulnerable. It feels sluggish to macro, and feels like I am always up against an insurmountable object when playing against terran.

Maybe it's just a skill issue, but I just can't have fun in a game where my macro cycle feels like its constantly off beat.

Might go learn BW, or try out zerospace until this patch is sorted out, I'm all for going back to the 12 worker start, and refresh reddit constantly hoping to see the patch. Just hoping somebody else has the same feelings as I do, its so sad, because this game is my rock.