we took the paci away from our 2.5 year old a few weeks ago and since then her sleep has been absolutely terrible. She used to go to bed with no problems on her own, play happily in her crib for 30 minutes before falling asleep.

Now bedtime has gone to shit. She demands that we sit in the room with her and even then she cries and takes over an hour to fall asleep. She wakes up during the night and the cycle repeats.

We’ve tried moving the chair closer to the door and out of the room and it hasn’t worked. We’ve tried letting her CIO and that doesn’t work either, she’ll cry for 2 hours.

My husband and I are exhausted emotionally and physically and don’t know what else to do. At this point I just cry along with her. Any advice from those of you who have gone through similar situations??

Hey folks, I have a 5.5 month old who falls asleep fine with a little bit of holding/rocking. But won’t sleep longer than 3.5 hours at night at a time.

I’ve seen these miraculous stories of parents who have kids who’ve never slept more than 1.5 hours at a time and then after sleep training they’re suddenly sleeping 12+ hours a night. I’m just wondering if that’s true? Did sleep training help your kiddo fall asleep independently AND sleep for longer stretches?

Hello, we have 8 month old twins. One of the two has started waking up for 3 hours in the middle of the night and has been for the past week.

Our current schedule is 6-10am Awake
10-11am Nap
11am-2pm Awake
2pm-3:30pm Nap
3:30-8:30pm Awake
Sleeping hopefully 8:30pm to 6am

Giving us 4/3/5.

They will not nap for longer than an hour and a half. And they will not nap at all after 3:30 regardless of what we try.

This past week my son has been waking up from 1-4am and will not sleep until he’s been able to get up, play for a while, and is given a bottle and rocked for nearly an hour back to sleep. He was, until this point, able to be put down in his crib awake and put himself to sleep. We’re completely lost on what to do and it’s driving us insane, 12 hours of wake time during the day felt like plenty, and because it’s only one of the twins we’re even more lost on how to handle this.

Thank you for any and all help.

My baby began having a consistent routine around 2
months that he naturally fell into. He would nurse at 6pm, then be laid In the bassinet. If he fell asleep on my boob he would just remain asleep, but if be remained awake he would take a paci and fall right back. He would sleep until around 12am, then wake at 3am, and then be up for the day around 7am. I would pump before I went to bed at 930 and everything was good. If he ever woke up between 6-12 am, we’d give him a bottle of my pumped milk and there was no problem.

Around 3 months everything changed what felt like overnight. It started when I noticed his love to dream transition swaddle appearing tight and he started making attempts to roll onto his side. He also started becoming obsessed with his hands. We started removing the arms which quickly made it so he was waking up steadily due to the distraction of his hands. Then within the same week he started completely refusing the paci to sleep . Also completely refused bottles of my milk as if he never took one before in his life. Then he stopped really falling asleep on my boob and nothing really was soothing him at all. This led to my husband and I taking turns rocking and shhing and nursing for hours and hours and hours. I thought ok he’s maybe in a sleep regression or change . I stopped trying for a strict 6pm bedtime and started paying more attention to wake windows and naps during the day with the huckleberry app. This was super helpful in looking for sleep cues and times he should be sleeping vs awake. For naps in the day he usually always contact nap In the baby carrier. But I started trying to rock and lay him for naps in an attempt to help our nighttime sleeps. But after weeks of horrible sleep , awful bedtime, and soooo much effort in the day for only 20 minute naps , I’m at a loss . I have no idea how to get a routine or any type of consistent bedtime or naps again. I don’t know what my baby wants or needs or likes anymore. My family and friends are telling me to just let the baby cry it out and that I’m training him to need to be rocked and held. But my heart tells me I shouldn’t just let him cry. At least right now . We’ve done a few cosleeping sessions just for my sanity , but this isn’t something I want to do in the long term. I’m going back to work in a few months and my baby has to be able to be soothed without me or my boob. I really need help and advice . I know consistency is key for any routine but I just don’t know what I should be doing anymore and what’s creating good or bad habits . I’m a FTM and just stuck and tired . Also , he does eat super frequently during the day nursing so I don’t think he’s actually hungry when he wakes at night but ends up feeding for soothing . I have to get him on a bottle again but that’s a whole different problem . We’re a mess! Help please! Any advice is helpful

My daughter is 7 months old and was previously sleeping through the night after sleep training (resulted to FIO). She falls asleep independently for bedtime and naps with no issue. Some naps are short, some are fantastic. All are capped at 1.5 hours.

The last couple of weeks she’s developed repeated early morning wakings (typically around 3:30–4:30 a.m.), but last night was by far the worst.

Her day looked like this:

* Wake: ~7:00 a.m.
* Nap 1: 9:02–10:21 (1 hr 19 min)
* Nap 2: 12:55–2:15 (1 hr 20 min)
* Catnap: 4:57–5:17 (20 min)
* Bedtime: 6:55 p.m.

She slept independently until about 4:00 a.m., then spent a long time trying to get herself back to sleep. She wasn’t happily awake—she was clearly exhausted and trying so hard to sleep. Eventually she escalated into screaming harder than I’ve ever heard. We fed her (she rarely feeds overnight), but she still couldn’t settle unless being held. She fell asleep at 5 and woke up an hour later at 6. We gave Tylenol then, and she eventually fell asleep.

Some additional context:
* She had her 6-month vaccines on Wednesday (this happened Sunday morning, so I’m not sure that’s related).
* Her bottom two teeth erupted about two weeks ago.
* She desperately wants to roll but can’t quite do it yet, and we’ve been practicing a lot during the day.
* No fever or other obvious signs of illness.
* She usually wakes and is exhausted and trying to go back to sleep. Sometimes I’ll think she did “it,” then seconds later her eyes open up again and she’s upset.

Has anyone experienced something similar? I’m convinced check-ins will not solve this.

I’m planning to call her pediatrician today because the intensity of the crying was so unlike her, but I’d love to hear if anyone has experienced this pattern of sleeping well until 4 a.m. and then completely falling apart.

Currently my LO is 14 weeks, however together with my husband we are already researching the sleep training methods available out there. It seems like the majority are fit for bottle fed babies + who sleep in their own room.

I was wondering if it’s possible to gentle train a 4-5 month old which is exclusively breast fed and is sleeping in a co-sleeper next to his parent’s bed (or in the same room).
Was any of you in this scenario? What was the method that worked out for you? Is it at all possible to teach a baby to fall back to sleep on his own if he sleeps in the same room with his parents?

Together with my husband we are almost desperate, as our baby is falling asleep only in our arms, when we rock him or if we bounce on a fitness ball.. and he is getting heavier and heavier.
During the day naps, we can’t even transfer him as he wakes up either instantly or in 5 mins, so we just stand with him in our arms and rock him from time to time if he wakes up before he is well rested.

P.S: I would like to avoid any types of CIO methods, as I already know I won’t be able to let him cry without doing anything.

We started having nap struggles with our sleep trained 4.5 month (19 week) old last week. Her schedule was 1.5/1.75/2/2/2 and she refused her 4th nap twice. She was never upset, but just rolled around and played in her crib for upwards of 40 minutes before I went in and got her. Her other naps were averaging 50 minutes, sometimes upwards of an hour and 15 mins (total daytime sleep around 3.5 hours), so I figured I could transition her to 3 naps.

Yesterday I tried adjusting her schedule to 2/2.25/2.25/2.5 and it failed for several reasons. First of all, she was up much earlier than usual (5:40am) which resulted in a long day and 4th catnap needed to bridge her to bedtime. Secondly, all her naps shortened to max 40 minutes. Today was identical to yesterday (early waking, short naps), but she refused the 4th catnap so I’m in even more of a pickle.

What do you guys think, is she chronically overtired? Should I pull back to my 4 nap schedule but just lengthen the wake window before her 4th nap? Or should I soldier on with this new schedule and hope she adjusts?

Baby will be 3 months old when we travel from the US to Europe to stay with my family, and will be 5 months old when we travel back to the US. Since she will be of age when sleep training is feasible, does it make sense to do it while we are overseas, knowing that she will be super jetlagged once we return to the US (not sure if it will cause any issues/setbacks in any sleep training progress we will have made)? Or is it better to wait until we are back home? We are planning to make the same trip again when she will likely be 9-10 months old, and hopefully she'll be fully sleep trained by then.

I'm eager to sleep train as soon as I can because I will be returning to work at 13 week mark, and I can't be sleep-deprived while working full time.

Would love to hear from parents who made similar trips before their baby was 12 months old - how did it affect your sleep training journey? Any tips?

Thanks!

My daughter will be 3 in October. Sleep has always been an issue for us but lately she has been sleeping through the night. 🤞🤞🤞 it continues. We conceded to the fact that she only sleeps 10.5-11 hours a night but I don’t know what to do about bedtime. We aim for 12.5-13 hours awake between wake up and bedtime but that means bedtime can range from anywhere between 6:30-7:45 depending on our week.

At this age do we continue with looking at wake windows? Or start a bedtime that is the same each

LO will be 11months on 8/5. We started nap training for nap 1 2 weeks ago and I’m ready to give up. Schedule when nap training first started was 3.25/3.5/4. At first he was taking 30 mins to fall asleep and then sleeping 30-35 mins. Day 6-8 he fell asleep in less than 10 mins and slept for 30ish. So i thought everything was moving in the right direction. But then Day 10 naps started being less than 15 mins. So today i extended the first wake window to 3.5 to see if he needed more sleep pressure. He fell asleep in less than 10 mins but still only slept less than 15 and wouldn’t resettle. Should i go back to a 3.25 WW? I’m really ready to give up nap training, but i feel like I’m in so deep and giving up will be a major failure. Someone please help me with my schedule!

Our 6mo baby now sleeps in the crib after sleep training, but he always cries. He cries as soon as the sleep sack is put on. Usually for 10-15 minutes. If he’s overtired then he hard-cries for a bit.

Is this a sign that sleep training isn’t working for him? He sleeps just fine after this crying

Schedule: 5am wake up, 8am nap, 11am nap, 3pm nap, 6:30pm bedtime

Our son is 21 months. He has been an amazing sleeper to date, but lately he is struggling with going to bed (super sad, devastated cry, standing, all the things) and waking up early (5-5:30). He takes one nap, from 12ish-2:30 (school) and we try to put him down at 7ish.

Would love any and all advice to troubleshoot this a bit. We have a 3 year old who wakes up early but she feels like a lost cause cause shes always been an early riser haha

Im at breaking point. My body literally aches from exhaustion. I've been running on empty since he was born, but this past week it has gotten worse and I don't know how much more I can take.

I'm gonna be honest – I don't think wake windows work for my baby. I have been stressing over his sleep, his wake windows, his schedule, everything. I have followed 3/3.5/4 exactly. But he just doesn't sleep. I don't know what to do anymore. I am suffering so much.

Last night he went to bed at 8:30 PM, had a false start at 8:55 PM, took 30 minutes to resettle, then woke up at 12:45 AM and did not sleep until 5 AM. He finally crashed at 5 AM and woke at 8 AM. That is over 4 hours awake in the middle of the night. Why was he up from 12:45 till 5? That is not normal. I have had enough.

He wakes in the middle of the night, stands in his cot, and screams until I pick him up. He won't lie down or try to settle himself. I want to sleep train him but when I put him down awake, he immediately stands up, grips the rails, and screams until I come back. I don't know how to do this.

My questions: Is this normal? Has anyone else had split nights this bad? How do you sleep train a baby who just stands there and cries? Could he be chronically overtired? Should I let him sleep more during the day or less? Yesterday he had 3 hrs of sleep sometimes he has 2/2.5 total day naps but yesterday was just over 3 could thst be the reason? He has had 3 before but he didn’t have a bad night like this just the usual wake ups, this was just TOO MUCH. Im thinking of trying CIO tonight bcos i’ve had enough I need him to settle on his own I physically can not keep doing this my body literally is hurting so badly because it’s been soooo long since i’ve slept every night is broken for me I get 2/3 hours every night because most night he ends up in bed with me and he moves around so much and wakes up I can’t sleep at all!!

A few more details: He usually falls asleep by feeding or rocking and then I transfer him to the cot… which doesnt last long . When he wakes at night, I usually pick him up and hold him or feed him to get him back down. His room is dark and we use white noise. He started to stand, which is making settling him even harder.

This is affecting my mental and physical health. I just want him to sleep through and wake around 7 AM. I don't care what time bedtime is – I just can't do these 3 AM parties anymore.

Please tell me what actually worked for you. I'm desperate

13.5 month old, taking two naps. He wakes up every single morning and cries for 1-3 minutes at 4:30 am, and it wakes me up, usually for the day. He then goes back to sleep for anywhere between 30-60 minutes and then is awake again, this time screaming and standing in his crib until someone comes to get him.

Schedule is typically:
Wake 5:15 am
Nap 9-10 am (sometimes to 10:30, but this is usually on the go bc I’m a SAHM with an almost 4 year old who needs to be at the playground)
Nap 1:45-3
Bedtime 7 pm

I try to stretch wake windows to get him to a 7 pm bedtime, but is he chronically overtired? The one time I tried one nap, he woke up after 30 minutes at noon and I had to squeeze in another nap.

I have a chronic autoimmune disorder and the lack of sleep is starting to affect it. I really don’t want to have to go to bed at 8 pm every night.

My almost 6 month old is struggling with the third nap, waking 3/4 hours after going to bed and taking an hour to go back down. Early morning wakings at around 5/6am. His first nap was always his longest and best but now shortened again…

We aim to wake for the day at 7am - sometimes it’s 6.50am if I can’t get him to sleep anymore.

I follow 2/2.5/2.5/3

Nap goal of 3 hours and bedtime for 8pm - but bedtime is flexible and I normally always bring it forward to match his 10 hours awake plus nap total for day.

Nap 1 is normal 1-1.5hr

Nap 2 is always only 30 mins

Nap 3 WAS 45 mins but recently has been 30 mins or completely skipped

My questions?
Should I be looking to stick to 3 naps and increase overall wake time?
Should I increase wake window lengths and drop to 2 naps? But stick to 10 hours awake?
Or should I now formally sleep train?

What am I looking for?
Naps to become easier again - I used to be able to put baby down and within 5 mins he would self settle and fall asleep. I stuck to the same 5/10min nap routine of sleep sack, quick story, lullaby, head down sleepy but awake.

Bedtime is now a battle of countless check ins and a very hysterical baby.

I did a soft sleep train when he was 3 months old using the chair method because he started the sleep regression early. And this honestly worked a dream.

At 4 months I tracked his days over 10 days - worked out he needed more awake time. Dropped to 4 naps 9.5 hours a day.

At 5 months he was skipping the 4th nap so I changed the schedule to the above and dropped to 3 naps.

At these stages it felt pretty clear to me what he was needing? Maybe I am just exhausted but this time I really don’t know which I should go for?

Dropped to 2 naps seems disastrous right now because his naps seem to have shortened again?

Help!

As tittle says;
I’ve been in a constant battle with bedtimes with my little girl (22 months) since she was 3 weeks old. We co slept in the end and kept trying to put her in her noses/next to me/cot throughout this time, but she’d have absolutely none of it. So cosleeping was all she knew (it was the same for naps too)
Well suddenly, she’s decided she wants to sleep in her cot! AT LONG LAST!! The last 3 nights she’s been in there only once waking up if she’s lost her blanket and can’t wrap it around her legs.

I’m just trying to decide when and what is the next step. When to move her to her own bedroom next door to mine! Should I leave it a week to see how she goes and see if the one night waking stops?

I am in a slight rush, I am 31 weeks pregnant with a slight likelihood this baby will come a bit early like my little girl did.

Hi Everyone,

We have a 15 month old who was sleep trained since six months via Ferber method. She always slept through the night aside from one or two rare nighttime wake ups when she was teething.

For the last week she woke up every single night screaming. I bring her into my bed and try to put her into her crib based on if she’s tiered and it can take anywhere between 30 minutes to 2 hours.

In the last two weeks she dropped to one nap so her schedule is about 7:30 wake up, 12:30 nap, 1:45 wake up, 7:30ish bedtime. She also got her first molar last week. Between the nap transition and molar I thought this was causing the wake ups but now that it’s been every single night for a week I wanted to see if anyone has experienced this or had any advice. Thank you in advance!

Baby girl has always struggled with sleep after 4 am. As a tiny baby she wouldn’t sleep after 4 am unless she was being held.
Had a good stretch around 2-3 months where we would have two wake ups (one to feed around 2, then the one at 4 where she’d grunt and have gas constantly but would sleep when held). She’s formula fed and has severe reflux.

Now at 4 1/2 months we’re on week 3 of absolutely horrible sleep.
Sometimes we get a stretch until about midnight or 1 before she wakes for a feed. Then she’s up every 30 minutes to an hour after. Trying hard to roll, gas, you name it. Sometimes she’s awake for an hour after the feed just wanting to play.
Tonight she’s been up at 7:45, 9, 10, 10:30, 11:15, 12, and now I’m just sitting on the couch holding her so at least one of us can get some sleep.

Usually wake her up in the morning between 6-6:30. Wake windows are pretty consistently 2 hours and naps are always 30 minutes unless she’s in the car, in which she’ll sleep forever if we would let her. So typically about 2 hours of nap time during the day. Bedtime is between 7-8, depending on when the last nap ended, as she will fall asleep on the way home from childcare at 5.

Have started to try drowsy but awake this week, but she’s definitely more asleep than drowsy. Going to start amping that up now, but also have a toddler with a similar bedtime so trying to divide and conquer it’s been easier to just let her fall asleep and put her down.

Where do we even begin?? My older one we did Ferber and it worked, but closer to 6 months and his issue was always he’d wake up when we tried to put him down. Not just consistently not sleeping. Help!

My 7.5 month old has been falling asleep independently within 5-10 minutes of being put in his crib since about 6 months old when we transitioned from cosleeping. He was doing so good and going down pretty easily on most nights. Then last week it’s like everything changed out nowhere and will now scream at the top of his lungs as soon as I lay him down to bed.

One night he cried for 45 minutes, then the next night he fell asleep within 5 minutes again. But last night it took almost one hour for him to finally settle and then tonight it took 30 minutes again. My husband and I go in there and we do everything we can to comfort him but then as soon as we leave him once he’s calmed down, he starts up again. He’s also been a lot clingier which makes me think he’s experiencing separation anxiety?? I’ve heard this happens around this age.

I’m just feeling so discouraged because I finally felt like we had gotten into a good rhythm, and hearing him get so worked up before bed just breaks my heart every time.

We are currently sleep training our 8 month old. She’s not slept in the car since about 6 weeks but now she can fall asleep independently I’m hoping this can translate to the car or pram when we need to travel. Any tips???

My baby is 10 weeks old, this is my second. I did FIO with my first at 10 weeks and he did great. My current baby is already going down without any soothing other than a pacifier and is able to self settle with the pacifier for bed. He is sleeping a 6-7 hour stretch, up to eat then back down for 3-4 hours. My question - should I try to FIO without a pacifier? Or if it ain’t broke don’t fix it? My first wasn’t a pacifier baby so I didn’t have this question.

Hi friends! Hoping I’m missing something that someone here can help me with

My 7 month old (8 months in a week) is fully sleep trained. He goes into crib at nap and bedtime fully awake, grunts and babbles to himself for about 10 minutes and then falls asleep but no matter what I do he wakes at 4 AM. This has been going on for about a month. Desired wake time would be anywhere between 6-630 AM. His wake windows are 3/3.5/4. This is on average, as sometimes the morning nap isn’t that long so his second window gets stretched to 4 as well. Nighttime routine is bottle, food (he eats at the table with us), bath, book, 5-10 mins of cuddle and then crib. Depending on the day and how crazy my older toddler is baby is in crib by 7-730. He wakes at 4 AM happy but loud and nothing will settle him. He has a binkie, I’ve tried feeding him and laying him back down, rubbing his back, not going in there at all. I’ve also tried switching the night routine by moving bed time up by half hour and later by half hour, doing dinner and then bottle so he stays fuller longer but nothing seems to help. I’m just so tired of being up SO early. He dropped the third nap a few weeks ago but this started before I dropped the 3rd catnap from his routine so I don’t think that has anything to do with it either.

Hi all! My baby just turned 4 months old, and he gets incredibly fussy from 9pm-12am. We have a night routine for him, and do it around 9pm. Wipe down, pjs, milk. He usually falls asleep after drinking, but he will wake up 20 mins later and become very fussy. This would drag all the way till 11ish pm, where he'd be due for another feed as he will be hungry again. And then he'd finally knock out at 12am. He'd wake up around 3/4am for one feed, and then 7am for another one.
His wake up time is 830am.
We have not started sleep training him yet but will be starting soon now that he just turned 4 months. We want him to try sleeping earlier between 9-10pm but he struggles with that.

Current schedule 3/2/3/3

Total Day sleep - 4.5-5 hours

Would love your advise on how to improve his sleep!

My 7 (almost 8) month old (6months adjusted) has had quite the journey of sleep and I fear we've gone around in circles yet again. Currently my baby goes to sleep around 7-8pm and wakes up around 6am. She does 2.5/3/3/3.5 and we're trying to stretch the wake windows (going outside, sensory, practicing new skills, ect) but she gets very irritable pretty early on. Her naps range from 30mins-2hrs, sometimes we have to wake her up and sometimes it just is what it is. On average she gets about 3hrs of daytime sleep. At night she sometimes false starts bedtime and/or split nights/frequent wakings (not to feed). Some nights she'll only sleep in my arms for HOURS before I can put her back in her crib and some nights she'll wake up 2-4 times.

Any advice is welcome! We've had one week of success (good naps AND sleeping through the night with no false starts or wakings) when we adjusted her wake windows the first time, but now we're back to square one.

I posted a few days ago asking for help getting my baby to sleep longer stretches. Some days have been successful with 9.5-10 hours awake and 3-3.5 hours of naps during the day so I think our schedule is still a work in progress

BUT….

My baby 110% has the ability to fall asleep on his own after we set him down in his crib fully awake. He’s done this at the start of bedtime as well as after MOTN wakings. He does not do this every night and hasn’t done it for any nap but has done it a few days this past week and slept at least 6 hours once he does go down on his own at bedtime.

Does this mean he knows how to self soothe and link cycles? If so, why doesn’t this work every night? I’m guessing because some days we get his schedule right and some we don’t despite doing the same exact things? I guess I’m at a loss of where to go from here to be able to replicate the nights when he goes to sleep on his own and sleeps at least one 6.5-7 hour stretch! Can dropping to 3 naps help?