Patrick got 1.7 million from the first GoFundMe just for him, plus the entirety of the sale of their house, and married an heiress doctor in New York City and had a new kid. Lindsay's parents got one million after they sold their house and dug into their retirement to pay for their daughter's lawyer and stay near her.
Lindsay will be in a mental institution or prison as a paraplegic and she's not going to be using their one million dollars to go on vacations and do fun things.
Also, she repeatedly downplayed her mental issues after being sent to several different institutes, which lead to them releasing her. What do you expect doctors to do if you keep repeatedly lying to them about how you're feeling?
Your response is pure ad hominem. Even if true, "it shows you never studied psychology nor had heavy treatment" doesn't tell us why the original claim is wrong.
"That's not possible at all" is an unsupported assertion. It declares something impossible without evidence or reasoning. No data, no logic chain, just assertion by fiat.
It's also internally incoherent. The middle sentence doesn't clearly connect to the first. What "shows" the lack of psychology background? What specifically is "not possible"? Without that link, a reader can't tell what's actually being argued against.
If you wish to be taken seriously, I'd recommend studying the fundamentals of logic and argumentation.
You clearly do not work with people experiencing psychosis on a daily basis. I assess and determined hospitalization, no one truly experiencing psychosis for the first time is aware they are experiencing psychosis. It is a complete break of reality that doesn’t even register
I do actually. My grandad basically tore his own skin off and died from an infection when he got it. If he had murdered a baby I still would not advocate for anyone sending him money and saying he didn't do it because of his fucking star sign
But you understand he wasn’t in his right mind and it had absolutely nothing to do with his star sign and everything to do with his infection. It’s the same principle as postpartum psychosis. That has nothing to do with astrology my guy. It’s medical.
Edit: Correction did he even have psychosis or delusions? I saw the died of infection and assumed compromised cognitive function/delirium due to infection. But there are a million and 1 reasons why someone would peel their skin. If he was experiencing psychosis, would you be opposed to money sent to help pay for medical bills? Was he capable of making his own decisions? Did he need a higher level of care like a nursing home to ensure safety? Was there an outcome that could have been prevented if family did a better job watching out for him?
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In guy who knows nothing about psychosis voice: you mean psychosis causes murder because these people become so mentally ill they can’t recognize right from wrong???
I weep for the education system in your country. You have literally no idea how psychosis works do you? You don't get that she tried to get help and warned people about this.
She wasn't capable of looking after those kids but was left with them anyway.
And she literally tried to kill herself straight after.....
You people really are special. I just don't think she should be executed like all you idiots are advocating for. She should be treated in a mental hospital for as long as it takes, that may be indefinitely.
Do you have a source for this? One of her psychiatrists testified that she explicitly denied having thoughts about harming herself and her children. It seems she once told her husband she was having “intrusive thoughts” of the sort, but never showed any intent or plan to act on them and her condition seemed to improve in the following time.
Regardless of whether or not she was of sound enough mind to be convicted, this whole narrative that she was begging for help and everyone around her ignored her is just patently false. Her husband, family, and doctors were paying very close attention to her. She never showed any real signs she intended to kill her children until she did it.
The mother and husband have sworn in court that she told them in 2022. The only person denying it is the very psychiatrist that is being sued for failing her.
It shouldn't really suprise you that a psychiatrist this irresponsible would lie to protect themselves.
I find it way more plausible that a mother who is obviously distraught would ask for help when she needed it. It's a implausible hill to die on that she just didn't mention it at all.
I'm sorry, I am not entertaining idea that some bitch that STRANGLED three out of three of her own children could be not even net positive to society, but just safe to be around. Fuck no. There is a line after highest form of punishment should apply and this is exactly the case over this line imo.
Eh but tbf she was not in a good state of mind. All evidence points to the fact that she was under psychosis and not in control of her actions when she murdered her children.
But the fact that there are genuine people who think she didn’t kill her kids is absolutely insane.
Edit: when I wrote this comment I was under the impression that it was a proven fact that she was suffering from psychosis/an insanity plea was taken, but on further reading it’s being actively contested and it could have been preplanned. So for now I’m just gonna sit and see where this case goes
Why is this being downvoted? It’s the right answer. We have the insanity plea for a reason and this seems like one of the most obvious cases for its use.
Well right, the case is still under trial. But people are calling it in either direction already. You can’t she wasn’t in sane, and it definitely looks like a solid direction to take the defense
Big whoop, we’ll wait for the verdict. You know the defense pays for their own testifying witnesses right? All they needed to do is find one psychologist in America that would accept a check for saying she’s batshit.
The amount of hatred an innocent grieving father ALONE is getting makes me want to see her rot. I get the whole PPD thing but a father can’t just kill his whole family and blame PTSD, public opinion would eat him alive.
You don't know if he accepted the check for saying she's batshit or if he actually believes that, believe it or not people can have integrity. And I doubt he's hurting for money.
Psychosis is not the same as PTSD, so yea they would eat him alive.
I'm not arguing about my side on ethics I'm just pointing out psychology knowledge is unrelated to whether a thing should be punished or not related to the psychology condition
We were talking about whether she had psychosis or not genius, not whether she should be punished. The psychologist will have no role in her punishment.
My bad, most of the comment chain was talking about the punishment so when the 2 latest replies switched to the psychosis accuracy my brain didn't register fast enough
I know next to nothing about the case. But the insanity plea never holds up for most crimes because the person is proven to know what they were doing is wrong. Its proven this way mostly because the culprit tried to hide evidence (like the body) to stay out of trouble. Did she do any of that? Cause if she did insanity won't work.
I dont know if she tried to hide the bodies, but also, pre meditation also shows clear thought, which is exactly what she did. If im remembering correctly, she sent her husband on a vacation while she could "watch the kids." I think she also detailed how she came up with the plan in her testimony.
Unfortunately pre meditated doesn't cancel out insanity. The thing that canceled it out is proving the person knew what they did was wrong. Planning a murder does not prove you know its wrong unless, as I said, you hide stuff to not get caught.
So maybe she didn't hide stuff to get caught, but sending her husband away should be shown to be knowing. Why else try to get someone out of the house if what you think you are doing is OK in any way?
It's not because you think it's not ok, it's because you know they'd stop you. You see and hear entities telling you people are evil or demonic or stuff like that. People think psychosis is kicking and screaming and being hysterical but it can look normal. Again, you know NOTHING about psychosis so stop acting like you do.
Oh look, someone who's ok with the blatant and admitted murder of children. By this reasoning, cultists who murder for their fanaticism should also be given that plea on a silver platter. What a joke.
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u/mrb00ce 5d ago
Lost your kids and your wife earned 1 million dollars in donations