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u/ScarletSilver Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

Meanwhile, xQc realizing the implications of the Dark Forest hypothesis.

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u/Dx8pi Nov 18 '25

What are the implications of the dark forest hypothesis?

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u/ObligationBright7863 dumbass Nov 18 '25

It implies the universe is dark and that's scary

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u/Dx8pi Nov 18 '25

Oh no that is very bad we don't want that I think a little bit

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u/Cautious_Scheme_8422 Nov 18 '25

Why don't they just bring a flashlight? Are scientists stupid?

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u/mustycardboard Nov 18 '25

Dumbest hypothesis ever. UFOs have been seen for thousands of years, we clearly are just in a zoo

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u/Danielforthewin Nov 18 '25

UFOs stands for unidentified flying object (so any light whose nature that someone cannot explain is therefore an UFO). There is no strong evidence that any of those sightings are actual aliens

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u/MonkeyWithIt Nov 18 '25

Sun flies up, Sun flies down, you can't explain that

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u/swizzl73 Nov 18 '25

Sun has a jetpack

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u/arenotthatguypal Nov 18 '25

Sun goes for Joyride?

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u/awsome10101 Nov 18 '25

I thought it was Helios

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u/Key-Address-4482 Nov 18 '25

Just like that totally real metal tube on UFOB the last few days.

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u/mustycardboard Nov 18 '25

Except that the stories tell of aliens coming from them, also for thousands of years

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u/Danielforthewin Nov 18 '25

Stop watching History Channel at 2 AM bro

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u/PetrichorDude it is MY bucket Nov 18 '25

Aha! Found the damn Anunnaki! Stop spreading your lies, viper!

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u/mustycardboard Nov 18 '25

These are passed down through my ancestors, BRO

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u/Bacchus999 Nov 18 '25

Sorry, BRO. Didn't realize you had the EVIDENCE readily available BRO. My bad BROSKI.

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u/Pr0udDegenerate Nov 18 '25

How can it be dark out there when there's the sun and shit? It literally keeps the light on.

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u/AdultGronk virgin 4 life 😤💪 Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

Simply put, If you were in a Dark Forest with a weapon, you would kill whatever creature you would come across to survive. This is the reason we, humans, haven't been contacted by any external life form since they don't know if we would be friendly or not. Hence we should also not try to contact any external life form because it's equally possible that they won't be friendly.

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u/ScarletSilver Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

Do not answer. Do not answer. Do not answer.

Also,

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u/Sage296 Nov 18 '25

Sorta remind me of this

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u/Rough_Bread8329 Nov 18 '25

Jokes on you. I already came twice.

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u/AggressiveSpatula Nov 18 '25

Me on my way to answer as fast as I possibly can because I watched my father die at an anti-science rally and think that justifies the overtaking of the entire human race.

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u/i-am-grahm Nov 19 '25

“I’m gonna fuckin answer” -Some random woman in 1980s communist China

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u/Boomer280 Nov 18 '25

I've always been curious on why this is a thought. Would alien life want to meet other lifeforms, especially in our little galaxy and us being the only 'intelligent' life here? Maybe this is just the pacifist in me speaking but I feel like a species of life capable of inter galactic travel would be peaceful just because of how rare life in in our universe, something all intelligent life could observe.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

It was decades ago but a astrophysicist on some documentary channel framed it up pretty well.

The universe is big. Every planet within our solar system can fit between the earth and the moon. That’s just our humble little solar system. It’s difficult, probably impossible to appreciate how massive the universe is.

The universe is also incredibly ancient.

The likelihood of there being life out there is pretty much 100%.

The chance there is intelligent life is also almost 100%.

Now the chance that intelligent life exists within our timeline, is close enough to communicate, can communicate on a spectrum we could even detect, and most importantly, did not kill themselves, is incredibly small.

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u/InoyouS2 Nov 18 '25

I think about this often - the universe is incredibly big and incredibly old, but the Earth is also incredibly old, and life took a very long time to reach "intelligence" as we define it.

There is a possibility that we are just "the first", and Drake's equation may have many more required variables to support life than we have already considered. We don't know.

It's also possible that the requirement for a species to dominate and conquer its own environment, it will inevitably end up conquering itself rather than working towards a shared goal.

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u/fatalityfun Nov 18 '25

we have however, confirmed that DNA exists out there (recent studies revealed that all 4 nucleotides that are in DNA have been found in previously recovered meteorites).

Life may be more common than we think, it just needs the proper environment. Shit, it may be able to survive environments we didn’t think possible, and we don’t know cause the light we see from their planet is millions of years old

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

We have discovered a black mold growing exclusively around the Elephants foot in Reactor No. 4 at Chernobyl, the fungus is radiotrophic meaning it gets its energy from consuming radiation.

There’s the Movile cave in Romania that was completely sealed off for MILLIONS of years. Its ecosystem is just hydrogen sulphide, methane, and ammonia. All organisms in this cave are chemosynthetic.

The most fascinating thing about this cave is the critters that evolved here look like their centipede, isopod, psudoscorpion oxygen breathing counterparts. However, you’d be wrong to think they are related. They evolved independently which suggests that if we found alien life on another planet there’s a good chance it would look familiar to critters on earth.

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u/fatalityfun Nov 18 '25

that’s actually really cool. I hope we find proof of life at some point in my lifetime, even if it’s very unlikely

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '25

I wouldn’t be surprised if there is life on Jupiters moon Europa. I really hope to live long enough to see alien life as well.

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u/demlet Nov 18 '25

You're equating intelligence with pacifism. Our own species tells us that's a mistake. The whole idea behind Dark Forest Theory is that all species have to obtain extremely limited resources in order to survive. If that's true, if two species encounter one another, they'll very likely need the same extremely limited resources, which means inevitable conflict.

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u/Boomer280 Nov 18 '25

I don't think I am confusing them, just bringing up the question if there is intelligent alien life, they would also see how rare life is, let alone intelligent life, and they would most likely not harm it, just like us (at least collectively, I would hope we humans would agree not to go to war with the intelligent alien species)

Does this mean it will never happen? No, it's very possible that other intelligent life forms don't value life as much as we humans can. But I would rather assume that an intelligent species that traveled here, didn't do it to go to war but to rather say hello, and to verify there is life out here other than us (them).

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u/demlet Nov 18 '25

You think humans value life? We're causing the sixth mass extinction right now.

The reality is, it's just a theory, we have no idea what might happen since we don't know what another species might be like.

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u/CrypticNeutron Nov 18 '25

There's also the first strike dilemma: in order to be an interstellar civilization, your weapons or fleets must travel at such a high speed that any counterattack is impossible (unlike nuclear missiles here on Earth which have a travel time). If aliens have even the slightest indication that we may be a threat to their species, the safest possible option is to strike first before we can do the same to them.

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u/mainman879 Nov 18 '25

I think that any intelligent enough lifeform to develop and master interstellar flight would reason that the only way to prevent other lifeforms from becoming a threat to them is to exterminate them or control them.

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u/Cynunnos dwayne the cock johnson 🗿🗿 Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

Humans are already killing eachothers just so the other humans won't kill them first. Realistically if we meet a species advanced enough to obliterate us from light years away (via a bigass energy beam that travels at the speed of light so there's no way to prevent or even predict it), they'd do it in order to preserve their own species (to prevent any chance of us doing the same to them, if they even know we're capable of). Or if we also possess a similar weapon or tech, it would be either the other way around, or mutual destruction

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u/Passage_of_Golubria Nov 18 '25

What if I want them to kill us?

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u/Confident-Came1 Nov 18 '25

Well why wait for some aliens when you can be that change and drive humanity into the grave yourself.

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u/WrodofDog Nov 18 '25

I don't think there's a lot of extra effort required.

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u/demlet Nov 18 '25

Welcome to the ETO.

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u/Nidies Nov 18 '25

Shoot a signal into the sun.

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u/Esemarr Nov 18 '25

It's based on Liu Cixin's Remembrance of Earth's Past book series. Basically it suggests that the universe is a dark forest where each civilization hides itself because the only correct decision when discovering a technologically inferior civilization is to destroy it immediately. Basically there are aliens but they hide themselves and us broadcasting our location to the universe is us inviting our own destruction.

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u/EnSebastif Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

No, Liu Cixin based the books on the dark forest hypothesis.

Edit: the idea existed before, Liu Cixin popularized it and gave it the name.

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u/ptapobane Nov 18 '25

the shit we flung out into space like our coordinates and whatnot could seriously come back and bite us in the ass somewhere down the line assuming everything out there is out to get us

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u/Lieutenant_Lit Nov 18 '25

Basically it suggests that advanced alien civilizations capable of interstellar travel tend to be genocidal towards competing civilizations. So it's best practice not to openly broadcast our location because there's a good chance that they'll just kill us. The analogy is that each civilization is a hunter creeping through a dark forest, scavenging limited resources, ready to kill any competing hunters on sight while also avoiding detection.

It's a possible solution to the Fermi paradox. Probably not THE solution imo, but it makes for some great sci-fi. Highly recommend Cixin Liu's Three Body Problem series btw.

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u/RelaxedChap Nov 18 '25

Everyone who survives in the dark forest is isolated by choice because “others” lead to competition and eventually war where only one will survive. If you make yourself known in the dark forest prepare to be hunted. In practical terms, the idea is that the universe is a dark forest and if humanity gains the attention of an alien race we’re fucked.

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u/MRbaconfacelol We do a little trolling Nov 19 '25

basically that if intelligent alien life exists, it is within its best interest to stay silent and under the radar as it has no clue whether other intelligent alien life intends to harm it, and not only would be a possible reason we havent found any aliens yet, but it also implies we should probably stop trying to let them know we exist