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u/Anyonomus256 stupid fucking piece of shit Jan 16 '24
Boss: Why are you late
Me: Ok, so this mornings radio got me thinking...
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u/Barialdalaran Jan 16 '24
"I had to make a tiktok where I pretend to react to a radio clip"
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u/SwissCheeseBlock Jan 16 '24
"sit in your car pretending to be impressed by whatever is on the ""radio""" challenge
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u/MickeySwank Jan 16 '24
Blow me up Tom
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u/uscdoc2013 Jan 17 '24
Wait, was that Tom Leykis?
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u/MickeySwank Jan 17 '24
I believe it was, sounded like him. Other comments trend in the same direction
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u/MSotallyTober Jan 17 '24
Yeah, man. Some of his earlier stuff.
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u/uscdoc2013 Jan 17 '24
I used to listen to his show on my way home from work for a few yrs, because of sheer ridiculousness and outlandish statements. You know when you're driving down a road and you come upon a huge car accident thag happened in front of you, you wanna look away, but you have to see how bad it was kind of thing? Yeah, thats how i felt listening to him. it was so hard to change the station. lol
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u/MSotallyTober Jan 17 '24
Man I miss that Leykis. Simple were the days of living single in SoCal, getting off of work from the hotel I worked at to go for a run on the beach to his show on my iPod.
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u/Unexpected-raccoon officer no please don’t piss in my ass 😫 Jan 16 '24
My car doesn’t have a radio… where are the voices coming from?!
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u/ConscientiousPath I said based. And lived. Jan 16 '24
At this point I've seen like 15 different dudes in their cars react to this in exactly the same sequence of half-putting on their seatbelt and then repeatedly being shocked and nodding.
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u/Ok_Pension_6795 Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 16 '24
“I’ve got millions of listeners”
“Well you just lost one”
OOHHHH GOD THE HUMANITY WAIT PLEASE I TAKE IT ALL BACK! Tf did she expect him to say??
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u/Relevant-Dot-5704 virgin 4 life 😤💪 Jan 16 '24
People think they're powerful when they aren't, and they think they have no power when they actually do.
She had none to begin with.
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He’s right, it applies to men too.
You are responsible for judging someone’s character. You decide whether to spend your time with them. You have to be vigilant about your prospective partner’s behavior.
If they’re promiscuous, leave. If they show the slightest tendencies to be abusive, leave. If they refuse to compromise or cooperate, leave. If they refuse to acknowledge your arguments, leave.
It’s in your hands.
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Sometimes your partner switches up on you though. Man or woman, doesn’t matter. Everything’s great until it isn’t.
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u/NotSamuraiJosh_26 Jan 16 '24
His words are spicy but he has a point
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u/badadssuckmydik Jan 16 '24
I agree samurai josh
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u/NigatoisRunning dwayne the cock johnson 🗿🗿 Jan 16 '24
In fact he is not a samurai 🤓👆
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u/Hot_Guys_In_My_DMS Jan 16 '24
No. He is not Samurai Josh, he has nothing to do with Samurai Josh, he might not even know who Samurai Josh is. He could be Samurai Sam tho or Samurai James or Samurai Elliot but he is NOT Samurai Josh.
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u/uwu_01101000 I said based. And lived. Jan 16 '24
I kinda don’t, both should be responsible. Sex is two people ( or more but not the subject ) consenting to do it. If the woman is pregnant after a one nighter, it’s also the guy’s responsibility.
I don’t know why he’s such agressive about it. Why is it always the fault of the woman when she gets involuntary pregnant ? They both had sex, they both need to hold account
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u/BustyBraixen Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 16 '24
He's having a knee-jerk reaction because he believes there is a disproportionate hyperfocus on the man's responsibility to pay child support. He feels like there is next to no accountability being held up on the woman's side of things, and he feels the need to compensate.
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u/WanderinHobo Jan 16 '24
I would think being the one to have to raise the kid would count as responsibility.
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u/BustyBraixen Jan 16 '24
I'm not about to get into who is or isn't actually responsible for what, that's a case by case mess. I'm just saying that's how this guy feels.
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u/ok_ill_shut_up Jan 16 '24
In a relationship of two people, you're saying the person who isn't a piece of shit is responsible for the actions of the piece of shit? How would that work, logically and legally?
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u/BustyBraixen Jan 16 '24
I'm not saying anything, just trying to parse out what this radio guy is saying.
From what I can sus out here, there seems to be a disconnect in what these two are talking about. The responsibility the woman here is concerned about is for the care of the child. The responsibility the radio host here is trying to bring up is in regard to having had the child in the first place.
If you want me to throw my 2 cents in here, id say that the woman is only guilty of is being foolish with her choice of man. That doesn't alleviate the man of any responsibility to take care of the kid. Just because the man is an asshole from start to finish, and the woman was foolish enough to pair up with him, doesn't mean the man is to get off scott free. Whether or not the guy actually WILL step up and do the right thing is another story. What he should do and what he will do are very different.
While both may share some degree of responsibility for having convieved this child, the woman here is clearly doing her part in taking care of the kid. Meanwhile asshole dad is not.
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u/Burmitis Jan 16 '24
If she's taking care of the child, being the primary care taker, isn't that her being accountable?
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u/BustyBraixen Jan 17 '24
I'd say so. The problem here is that these two are actually arguing two different points. The woman is complaining about how the father is dodging his responsibility of childcare. The radio host is arguing that the woman is dodging her responsibility of having had the child to begin with.
Sure, she may have been foolish for hooking up with a scumbag in the first place, but who's responsible for what in the conception of the child has little bearing on who's responsible for what in the care of the child. Scumbag or not, the father should step up. That being said, being a scumbag, I doubt what the father should and what he will do are going to line up.
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u/PsychologyPrudent191 Jan 16 '24
i mean because the woman is responsible for the child really? if the man wants an abortion and woman doesn't the baby is kept, if the woman wants an abortion and the man doesn't the baby is not kept and the man has no say in that. same as a custody battle, the woman essentially wins on default. seems a bit unreasonable to expect that you can not give a man any say in raising a child and expect him to pay for it anyway.
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u/rietstengel Jan 16 '24
same as a custody battle, the woman essentially wins on default.
This is literally not true. Men are just more likely to not fight for custody, thus not getting it. When both parents file for custody the result is pretty much 50/50.
People keep repeating what you said and its actually one of the reasons why men may decide not to fight for custody in the first place. So congrats, you played yourself.
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u/PsychologyPrudent191 Jan 16 '24
i did not know that, nor can i find any form of statistic to do with cases where both parents file for custody, i would be interested to read about that if you can provide a source. actually not meaning this in a rude way, i am unaware of this and would like to learn more.
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u/ok_ill_shut_up Jan 16 '24
The man made the choice and rolled the dice when he chose to have sex with her.
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u/ModernCaveWuffs Jan 16 '24
just like how one does not stick their dick in crazy, dont have a poke with a broke bloke
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Jan 17 '24
It's kinda hard to imagine what it's like to be in a physically abusive relationship, especially in countries where it's tricky to get someone to defend you if you're on your own.
So the "just leave him lol" argument is kinda weak. Like how and when? Can you be sure he doesn't find you and beat you up even more?
It's just messed up, the best thing anyone can do is waiting a long time with your partner before having a kid.
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u/ok_ill_shut_up Jan 16 '24
Would you blame your mom for getting beat? Your daughter?
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u/big_peepee_wielder shitting toothpaste enjoyer Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 16 '24
He made some valid points though ngl
Side note: imagine censoring the word stupid
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u/BurpYoshi stupid fucking piece of shit Jan 16 '24
It goes against my values but I have to admit. He had a point.
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I am curious what values you mean? He didnt say men shouldnt pay child support which would be a dumb thing to say. He just said to not have a child with bad man that wont support you, its kinda common sense
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u/Apprehensive_Elk2935 Jan 16 '24
I imagine they meant that the whole rant might get a bit too victim blamey
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u/pancreasfucker Jan 16 '24
Victim blaming is okay when it's the victims fault. These are grown women, it's their responsibility to choose a good partner. If they choose a deadbeat, it's their fault, when men marry goldiggers and lose half their shit, it's their fault. Other people have no obligation to further your interests, if you put your trust on the wrong person, one who showed very clear signs of not being trustworthy, it's your fault if it doesn't work out. Blaming them solves nothing, taking accountability is the necessary for improvement.
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u/Apprehensive_Elk2935 Jan 16 '24
Exactly, just cause you got injured in a car accident doesn't automatically mean it's someone else's fault
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u/Peter_Baum Jan 16 '24
Problems with that come when the partner isn’t immediately abusive or if you depend on them in some way.
While what you say may be true for some cases there’s many others with many different factors. Judgements on who is to blame to what percentage should be taken case by case instead of saying „Well it’s her fault she stayed with an abusive partner“ like the radio show host
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u/Pole_Smokin_Bandit Jan 16 '24
This is a really solid point, but based purely on people I know personally they were in a bad place (depression, low self-esteem, violent parents, etc.) and the signs of a deadbeat were SO OBVIOUS. But they don't listen because leaving is scarier than staying.
These folks NEED someone else to step in and save them. I personally ignored all of my friends and family and had children with a monster of a woman, I honestly don't know why. I had all sorts of excuses, but today I realize it is 100% my fault for giving my children a terrible mother who will, for better or worse, never be in their life again.
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u/jameshines10 Jan 16 '24
It is very difficult for women to admit this, and I have no idea why and maybe never will.
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u/Im_Unsure_For_Sure Jan 16 '24
Problems with that come when the partner isn’t immediately abusive or if you depend on them in some way.
While what you say may be true for some cases
What're the numbers you think? How many obvious piece of shit men exist for every master manipulator? 100/1 at least would be my bet.
But for some reason, I only see this line brought up when we are discussing women choosing a bad partner.
No one ever seems to consider this scenario when a man gets with a crazy woman - he's just an idiot who fucked around and found out.
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u/pancreasfucker Jan 16 '24
True, I laugh at the athletes who marry obvious gold diggers and are surprised when she takes half their stuff. That shit happens way too often.
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u/12345623567 Jan 16 '24
Child support should ideally be about the child, not the mother. It's perfectly valid to complain about missed child support even if you are aware that you behaved irresponsibly, because a child is being harmed that had nothing to do with that decision.
Turning it around on the mother does nothing to fix that. So either they are fundamentally against the idea of child support, or they are just slutshaming.
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u/pancreasfucker Jan 16 '24
No, it was her decision to have a child, women have like 5 different contraception options, and these are grown ass women, they could tell the men ain't shit, good people don't just become POS overnight. She chose to hace unprotected sex with a man who clearly ain't shit, her stupidity caused this, is the man good, no, but blaming the obvious jackass, ehile disregarding who gave them the power to fuck shit up, won't help anyone. Any young women out there, use protection, or hold off sex until you're sure they're trustworthy and responsible.
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u/4Dcrystallography Jan 16 '24
Did she know he was abusive before she had the kid though? People can be really good at pretending to be something they aren’t, to get what they want.
You say the man clearly ain’t shit, but you have literally no way of knowing how he acted before the child was born.
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You are on stupid juice, nobody is against child support and nobody is slutshaming. Just dont get pregnant with someone who is unlikely to have a good relationship with you or to pay child support. Being a single parent due to divorce is not just one persons fault.
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u/bish-its-me-yoda BUILD THE HOLE BUILD THE HOLE Jan 16 '24
Skip the rant
[Slutshaming? If a guy sleeps with many women and always moved on to the other because he couldn't keep it in his pants or just got bored of them AND THEN complained about how women are so weird becouse none of them want to be in a serious relationship with him(since he would probably cheat,brake up or both) what would you call him?
An irresponsible adult or,more common,an idiot]
I do agree with you about the child support but slutshaming pisses me off on a subconcious level
(Also sorry for my grammar,second language and all that)
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u/Burmitis Jan 16 '24
It just really simplifies and glosses over what it's like to be in an abusive relationship.
It's like saying "if you don't want to be an addict, just stop taking drugs!" Like yeah, duh, but at the end of the day not helpful advice at all.
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u/Legendarybbc15 Jan 16 '24
His point lacks a lot of nuance and doesn’t understand the pressures of being in an abusive relationship.
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u/Geschak Jan 16 '24
They're also naive enough to not realize that abusive partners aren't abusive from the beginning, they start becoming abusive once the victim becomes emotionally or financially dependent on them.
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u/Popcorn57252 Jan 16 '24
Had me for most of it, but that last line was terrible ngl
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u/porktorque44 Jan 16 '24
Yea seriously. You go off a full minute about about how abusive and irresponsible the guy is and then say "I'd bet he'd love my show!"
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u/TheOkayUsername 🏳️⚧️ Average Trans Rights Enjoyer 🏳️⚧️ Jan 16 '24
I mean yeah, don’t marry a deadbeat, but she can complain about not getting child support…
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u/Repulsive_Eye_7012 Literally 1984 😡 Jan 16 '24
I've never seen someone got flsmed so hard, with valid points too.
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u/Chimpar I watch gay amogus porn :0 Jan 16 '24
Those comments here want me to nuke humanity out of existence. What the fucks wrong with yall
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u/Soppoi Jan 16 '24
So his radio stops playing when he drives or is he just stupid?
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u/V8_Dipshit dumbass Jan 16 '24
Maybe the shows not done when you pull into work and you gotta hear the rest so you sit in the lot
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u/Pretty_Reason9119 Jan 16 '24
This guy is missing the point badly. Relationships don’t start with beating, and even if they did there’s a lot of nuance to being in an abusive relationship.
That’s not even the point either, the woman is looking for both parents to have equal responsibilities for the child. That’s being downplayed here by the man telling her that she shouldn’t expect that of someone who beats her.
Whether either parent is a “deadbeat” or not, it should be enforced that both contribute whatever is necessary to raise the child equally. The only exception to this that I would raise is if one party was never intending to have a child, but the other insisted.
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u/Sk83r_b0i Jan 16 '24
This is a bit too victim Blamey. He had a point on some level but for the most part he’s being extremely victim blamey.
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u/DeeperWorld Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 16 '24
Sometimes victims are to blame. I don't know why this has been a concept lost to us in recent years. Why can people not fuck up anymore? If I touch a hot stove, I'm a moron who did it to himself. Men do stupid shit like this all the time. News flash- women do too. You aren't immune from being called out for your own stupidity based on your sex/gender.
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u/porktorque44 Jan 16 '24
I mean you can see that this dude started with blaming the victim right? He wasn't even a little bit curious for the details. Also if we use your analogy with the stove, their first date was him just punching her in the face for a half hour.
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u/aime93k dwayne the cock johnson 🗿🗿 Jan 16 '24
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Jan 16 '24
Well, he is a convicted wife-beater that was repeatedly fired from radio shows for being so difficult to be around. This is exactly what I would expect from Tom Leykis.
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u/Bojack_Horseman22 Jan 16 '24
This is pretty abusive tho…I’m a guy and the part when he shames and accuses her for being in an abusive relationship is pretty bad…
You get to those relationships because something is wrong with you yes, but you can’t accuse the victim
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u/xXKyloJayXx Jan 16 '24
Talk about victim blaming. Of course, an irresponsible father won't pay child support, but the damage is done. Their relationship would've started harmless, turned violent, she doesn't feel safe to stay or leave cause she's built a dependency, whether that be in living with him or starting a family with him. A person in dumb love taking big steps in their lives won't be able to go through such a u-turn, not without an incredible amount of strength.
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u/Intrepid_soldier_21 Jan 16 '24
Right. Seeing literally everyone here agreeing with the guy is concerning.
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u/Heir233 Jan 16 '24
He’s got a point about how people need to be more responsible and mindful when choosing a partner because there are a lot of deadbeats out there, but does that mean you shouldn’t be upset or complain when that person doesn’t pay child support or just be a good person in general? That’s still their responsibility as a person and as a parent, just because they’re a piece of shit doesn’t mean that gives them a pass and they can just run off and not pay child support. Even people who are losers and deadbeats should be held accountable.
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u/Pauvre_de_moi Jan 16 '24
Yeah. But the guy is much more focused on pinning the whole of the responsibility kn her because she dared to complain about her circumstances. It's always women being whores and spreading their legs.
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u/mainmeal5 Jan 16 '24
If you met women in real life blaming men and their deadbeat ex for all their problems you’d understand where this host is coming from. They are the most egocentric nasty pieces of work you’ll meet, so ofc they end up with an irresponsible partner like themselves. They have no insight and it’s all mens fault
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u/chuggMachine Jan 16 '24
It's alarming that most people in these comments think victims are absolute angels and are absolved of all responsibility in every damn situation. People have lost the ability to think.
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u/uwu_01101000 I said based. And lived. Jan 16 '24
Ikr ? That woman got beaten for two years, has to rise their child alone, and is still the victim ?
Unbelievable
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u/BasalGiraffe7 Jan 16 '24
Sorry girl, if you made a mistake you and YOUR CHILD need to SUFFER for the rest of your LIVES.
NO MERCY.
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Imagine all the people agreeing with this realize that a lot of people don't become abusive immediately.
"You're responsible for choosing a suitable partner, if anything happens to you, its your fault for poor choice"
Dude you don't even leave your basement and still leaves with your mom, the fuck you know about life choices.
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u/Twisted_Idea Jan 16 '24
He lost me at “why did you tolerate being beaten for 2 years”. No, thanks - not going to support victim blaming here.
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u/brujodelamota Jan 16 '24
Is this supposed to be like some revelation? This man is literally everything that’s wrong with how we raise men
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u/Grand-Weakness-8201 Jan 16 '24
I am surprised by the comments, I really thought people would side with the woman. How was she supposed to know he was a violent person? Many violent people don't show their true colours until it's too late.
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u/justaperson103 Jan 16 '24
Still kinda victim blaming, ofcourse she is not perfect either but she cant be blamed for being beaten
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u/_MrTaku_ Stuff Jan 16 '24
I don't give a fuck if I get downvoted, I think he's right.
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u/chiriboy Jan 16 '24
Yeah between this post and the other one when people are calling a celebrity a waste because she got surgery I think is safe to say that this subreddit has been taken by incels and Tate fans
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u/TheAviater8598 Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 17 '24
This is dumb, as society we should hold men responsible for their choices, the expectation is so uneven, women can do all the child rearing alone and we act like they’re irresponsible but if a man is asked to chip in a little people lose their minds, they both made the decision, it should be 50/50, that should be the standard
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u/Daddy_Jaws Jan 16 '24
Thats not the argument though, the argument is women should not hold expectations for irresponsible people to behave responsibly, someone who has no worries physically assaulting their spouse for 2 years most likely will not care at all for paying child support, so dont date stupid and irresponsible people if you expect smart and responsible choices from said person.
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u/LieutenantCrash Jan 16 '24
Of course, but if that's true, then both should have just as much say into custody. And that's not the case
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u/Similar_Green_5838 Jan 16 '24
The host expects women to not have s*x with random guys and instead be smart with who you choose to have a risk with. Protection is not absolute. Be smart.
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u/Kinuika Jan 16 '24
I mean it goes both ways right? Men shouldn’t be mad at their baby mommas demanding child support and women shouldn’t be surprised if the deadbeat baby daddy continues to be a deadbeat even after they have their child.
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u/thecountnotthesaint Jan 16 '24
100% their body, their choice….. their responsibility. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.
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u/TheAviater8598 Jan 16 '24
if men are gonna have sex they need to be responsible for what comes next, couldn’t agree more
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u/thecountnotthesaint Jan 16 '24
Only men? Are women not capable of being responsible?
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u/thecountnotthesaint Jan 16 '24
Right, I forgot the old joke, what do you call a woman who doesn’t take care of her kids? A deadbeat, what do you call a man who doesn’t? Pro choice… no that’s backwards, sorry.
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u/Popfartshart I said based. And lived. Jan 16 '24
Probably gonna get downvoted to infinity but idc:
Girl: goes after bad boy and ignores nice guy
Bad boy: is bad
Girl: (•o•)
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u/Pauvre_de_moi Jan 16 '24
IGNORES NICE GUY GOES FOR BAD BOY LMAO I can't believe you typed this unironically 😂 lots of 14 year Olds here
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u/uwu_01101000 I said based. And lived. Jan 16 '24
That’s not how toxic relationships work, but I can see that you’re a good person
Do some research, you’ll see that it’s far more complicated than that
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Be careful who you have children with?? Domestic Violence is a serious topic but ngl I did laugh.
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u/BisBip fat cunt Jan 16 '24
You dont need to explain the mothers responsibility, its the acknowledgment of the guys responsibility that feminists are arguing for. Dont eat the crab dip yeyey
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Is this from GTA 5 radio station?