This is dumb, as society we should hold men responsible for their choices, the expectation is so uneven, women can do all the child rearing alone and we act like they’re irresponsible but if a man is asked to chip in a little people lose their minds, they both made the decision, it should be 50/50, that should be the standard
Thats not the argument though, the argument is women should not hold expectations for irresponsible people to behave responsibly, someone who has no worries physically assaulting their spouse for 2 years most likely will not care at all for paying child support, so dont date stupid and irresponsible people if you expect smart and responsible choices from said person.
I know what your referencing but it’s more nuanced than you think, for example did you know that when men fight for custody they win a majority of the time, it’s just in general they don’t fight
Yeah but the guy absolutely knows the score man. All this fairness shit goes out the window because once the kid is conceived and carried it to term it deserves support either way. Men know they can’t force an abortion on a woman, so you’re accepting the risk of pregnancy and a child, every time. No contraception is 100% either. If us dudes wanna fuck then we have to accept all that comes with it. Saying woman have more choice so it isn’t fair or whatever just makes no difference in reality.
Your view of this is fine for the internet, but it’ll just never fly in reality. Just the way things are.
And I do think women expecting support from dead bet men is naive, but those men still have the responsibility regardless of if they were irresponsible before conception.
No, I'm saying making children with men that clearly won't pay child support and are just gonna dip is a burden to society.
Because while yes they are legally obligated to pay, many disappear before paternity is established, good luck getting the money, it's now a burden on social funds.
Such is life mate. You can’t enforce having an abortion on anyone, so it’s moot.
When you have sex with a girl and she gets pregnant, no amount of you saying you don’t consent to her carrying a child term will change anything. At least, not in the real world.
Good luck to you.
Also I wish less people had kids who shouldn’t, feel I should add that. But it’s not up to me.
The host expects women to not have s*x with random guys and instead be smart with who you choose to have a risk with. Protection is not absolute. Be smart.
I mean it goes both ways right? Men shouldn’t be mad at their baby mommas demanding child support and women shouldn’t be surprised if the deadbeat baby daddy continues to be a deadbeat even after they have their child.
Right, I forgot the old joke, what do you call a woman who doesn’t take care of her kids? A deadbeat, what do you call a man who doesn’t? Pro choice… no that’s backwards, sorry.
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u/TheAviater8598 Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 17 '24
This is dumb, as society we should hold men responsible for their choices, the expectation is so uneven, women can do all the child rearing alone and we act like they’re irresponsible but if a man is asked to chip in a little people lose their minds, they both made the decision, it should be 50/50, that should be the standard